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adrinoir · 8 months
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The Miraculous Movie was different than the series…and that’s okay!
I watched the movie this morning and loved it! I think it’s important to talk about the changes that were made and what impact they had.
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How the characters were rewritten
There definitely was a difference in how the characters were written in the movie, and some of the redevelopment of characters was really good!
Gabriel was by far the one who had the best redevelopment of his personality. Gabriel in the series is awful, as we all know.
In the series, he barely gives a shit about his own son, like there is absolutely nothing redeemable about his character. In every “what if” episode and the season 5 finale, Gabriel does not show any regret to hurting people, including his own son.
However, in the movie, Gabriel actually makes a better attempt to communicate with Adrien and, most importantly, feels strong regret when he hurt his son. He cries; he feels remorse for destroying Paris and injuring Adrien in the process. He hugs Adrien (along with the spirit of Emilie 🥹) and decides to stop being Hawk Moth. It was beautifully done. He got a redemption arc that he never got in the series. I know I personally felt so good watching that and seeing the relationship between him and Adrien being repaired.
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Marinette was her usual clumsy self, but was written as having no friends at school because she embarrasses herself so much. In a way, it makes more sense than her being so popular like she is in the series. Kids in high school can be pretty judgy and ruthless. So it makes sense for the “clumsy girl” to be made fun of and judged by people who don’t know her well.
Adrien was different in a lot of ways. He wasn’t shown running to school to gain freedom. He wasn’t introduced as being a super model who’s friends with Chloe. Instead, he’s already going to the school, he’s already friends with Nino, and he happens to run into Marinette at the library. He doesn’t have that same chemistry with Marinette as he does in the series which is a bit odd that they took that away, but it does make sense that he’d turn her down when she asked him to the ball, since he loves Ladybug. In the movie, he very clearly sees Marinette as just a friend and it’s shown that he’s building a friendship with her without him developing a crush. It’s different but still wholesome, especially when he shows her the old family photo to her. Plus, it evens it out well since Ladybug obviously turns Cat Noir away but they’re still building up their bond, too. They both get turned down.
It was ehhh that Adrien was a bit too cocky at times as Cat Noir, but overall, his goofiness and self confidence is still pretty on brand for him. He was still very encouraging towards Ladybug but not overly flirtatious, pushing her to her limits. Instead, it was them lightly teasing each other and then playfully fighting. And, speaking of the playful fighting, their bond was stronger in the movie seeing as how they were shown spending more time together off duty and that they were treated as equals.
In the show, Cat Noir is automatically made sidekick and left in the dark about everything. But in the movie, he gets to meet Master Fu in disguise alongside Ladybug. Sure, he didn’t help Master Fu with his cane like he did in the series, but that didn’t matter since the lore was changed.
Alya was less annoying in the movie. Sorry. Don’t get me wrong, I love Alya in the series, but she’s so over the top at times with how obsessed she is over the heroes, blogging, and filming things for her blog. In the movie, she was toned down a lot and I liked that. It was also cute that Nino had a crush on her and just her, not Marinette first. Unlike the series, he wasn’t on that pipeline of guys who fell for Marinette since that pipeline doesn’t exist in the movie.
Tom was made out to be an embarrassment for Marinette which is honestly more realistic for a teenager. Most teenagers get pretty embarrassed by their parents, especially when they still treat them very childlike. And, I like that he went out to the fair to look for her since he heard there was danger. Marinette’s parents don’t usually go out to look for her or make sure she’s in her room when there’s danger afoot. So, I appreciate that they made Tom do that since he obviously loves Marinette a lot.
The rewriting of (some of) the lore
As I had mentioned in my previous section, the lore was rewritten, too. Instead of Master Fu being the one to pick Marinette and Adrien simply because they helped him, the kwamis sense that Marinette and Adrien are the right people to be Ladybug and Cat Noir. That was a much better way to write that, in my opinion.
Hawk Moth got ahold of the butterfly miraculous by mistake. That part wasn’t changed but also, it didn’t need to be.
The change of plot
The plot was very simple. It didn’t have a whole lot of crazy, in depth details like the show’s does. So, anyone who has never watched the show can easily understand and absorb what’s going on (I will be forcing my boyfriend to watch it with me since he’s never seen the show lol).
I like that it was very clear cut and easy to understand while still being intense and meaningful. It still summarizes a lot of what the series entails while fixing some issues in the plot development.
They didn’t doddle with Hawk Moth like they do in the show. He was a successful villain in his second attempt but then realized he should stop when he hurt his own son in the process.
Also, there was a reveal. It was a wee bit underwhelming, but I still think it was done well! It was a moment with just Marinette and Adrien alone, as it should be. And, it was cutesy and heartfelt. The fact that Marinette dressed like Ladybug for the ball (cutest dress ever imo) and Adrien dressed like Cat Noir was so cute. That’s what a lot of the fandom has been asking for and written about in fanfics, I feel like.
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The romance between these two is most important. They didn’t need Kagami and Luka as 2nd love interests to throw things off track. Yes, I like these characters in the show, but they weren’t needed in the plot.
The music
I love musicals. I was a bit of a theater kid in high school, plus I’m obsessed with music lol. So, yes, I’m a bit biased when I say I love that they made this a musical.
I personally loved the music. I can tell a lot of good effort was put into it and I’ve already been listening to the songs on my Spotify. The song between Ladybug and Cat Noir in the theater “Now I See” and Cat Noir jumping on the clouds (literally, on cloud nine) singing “My Lady” was absolutely adorable and super romantic, which, as we know, is a big part of the show.
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Even Gabriel’s song “Chaos Will Reign Today” was amazing! It conveyed a lot of emotion and turns into one of those dramatic villain songs. Keith Silverstein is clearly talented enough to sing for his own character and he did it well.
My only nitpick is that Marinette’s singer, Lou, has a very different voice than Christina Vee. So, Marinette sounds very different, much more mature-sounding when she sings and it kinda catches you off guard. I’m surprised they didn’t have Christina sing for her, but there must’ve been a reason why she didn’t. But, SQVARE sounded similar enough to Bryce Papenbrook when he sung for Cat Noir which i absolutely love.
Conclusion
I personally give this movie a 10/10 just because it made me smile the whole time, and it’s such a feel good movie. I’ll happily watch it again and listen to the soundtrack, especially on a day when I’m feeling down. It wasn’t perfect in every aspect, but it was perfect in a simple, heartwarming sense and that it can be watched by everyone, not only people who watch the series.
I understand if it made you cringe or you were moreso looking for a continuation of the series not a retelling. But, I prefer some simplicity which is a big part of what made me like it. Like I said, I know it wasn’t absolute perfection, but it was so frickin adorable and I can’t help but smile.
There’s a lot of differences but also plenty of similarities between the movie and the show. But understand they’re not meant to be the same and that’s okay! I don’t think the movie was horrible for most of the changes it made. In fact, I think most of them made sense and made it a bit more realistic (as I explained).
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nightfurylover31 · 8 months
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I didn't know this about Bryce's father. Knowing he's going to be honoring him, in one of my childhood favorite movies, I feel like my heart is going to burst! 🥺❤️
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crackanronpa · 3 months
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chemicl · 4 months
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Met Cat Noir’s voice actor yesterday! He was so sweet it was a dream come true 💚💚 also got a personalized autograph from him
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cokeaddict3000 · 1 year
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THE ULTIMATE CHARACTER VOICED BY BRYCE PAPENBROOK
FINALS!!!!!
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Who’s the better character with no mom and extreme daddy issues??
Host note: I can’t wait for this to be over so I can go back to using this account as a shitpost
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rosavatar · 1 year
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im excited to also meet Bryce Papenbrook soon, so of course I had to make a piece of Inosuke to be signed !! 
I'm so stoked for s3 (despite the lack of Inosuke unfortunately)
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thequeenofspace · 6 months
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Seeing other artists post their own versions of this famous scene, I had to do one myself. Really happy with how it came out.
On a related note, I saw Cristina Vee and Bryce Papenbrook at Collect A Con today and had them sign my personal print of this picture! I was an honor for me to have them be the first ones to see this work :3
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Also got pics with them :3
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MCS (WE): Characters Who Share The Same Voice Actors
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Just putting this out here for my readers.😊😊😊
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lenok993 · 5 months
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NO I DON'T WANT THAT
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squidink18 · 1 year
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Man-Made Men— How “The Owl House succeeds where “Miraculous” Fails:
SPOILER WARNINGS FOR TOH AND MLB
To be completely honest I’ve seen the leaks but I’m avoiding discussing any and all of them that haven’t officially broadcast. So this is mostly just info for miraculous up to “Exaltation” in season five. As for Owl House, if you’re new to the fandom, this is a major story spoiler, so avoid it.
I wanna talk about Grimwalkers and Sentimonsters, from the respective shows listed in the titles. For those who are unaware—
Grimwalkers are artificially made humanoids from The Owl House. They’re basically clones meant to be a replacement to Emperor Belos’ brother, Caleb, who the former killed and used this method to create someone who’d support his… “questionable” decisions.
Sentimonsters are magical beings created by the Peacock Miraculous. They’re formed by strong emotions, take on a variety of forms, and fall under the absolute influence of whoever is holding the object that contains an Amok, a feather imbued with magic that gives the creature being.
In this specific post, we’re gonna talk about these two blorbos, Hunter 
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And Adrien
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and how the Owl House handles their inhumanity almost perfectly, and how Miraculous fumbles the bag.
I don’t really support the theory of Adrien being a sentimonster but at this point you gotta roll with the punches. 
In "The Owl House," we're introduced to Hunter pretty early on in Season 2 tells his story as the Golden Guard, and when we meet him, he's a stuck-up, cocky little bastard that Xeno Robinson portrays PERFECTLY. The audience is groomed to have a sort of dislike towards him, but thankfully, Dana and the writing team make him just likable enough for a slow redemption. Zuko went from a character who's just a straight-up complicated antagonist to a great main character, and in this set of circumstances, Hunter's the guy who acts bad but as we come to find out, is doing it sheerly for a semblance of parental approval from this dick.
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"Hunting Palismen" elaborates on his nature and personality and gives us a bit more insight into everything. He can't naturally do magic, so he relies on artificial staff mechanics and physical ability to match the strength of typical witches. He wants to look into Wild Magic more, showing a curiosity the original Caleb had towards the Demon Realm, which led to Belos wanting to handle him in the first place. He opens up to Luz, our protagonist, and for the first time in his life, he meets someone who legitimately wanted to know him not as the Golden Guard, but as who he really was.
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"My name is Hunter."
And so we get a complicated character in both personality, motivation, and backstory! "Eclipse Lake" presents him more as an antagonist because that's the point! He's doing this entire convoluted search for Titan's Blood just for the sake of proving himself to his "uncle." It's not necessarily his fault. Philip Witterbane/Belos is a manipulative little piece of garbage that actively grooms the people who work for him into getting them to their full levels of usefulness and promptly trashing them once they've outlived it. Lilith literally references this in "Elsewhere and Elsewhen!"
And then we get the good parts of "Hunting Palismen" in "Any Sport in a Storm!" He meets Willow, Gus, and the rest of the Flyer Derby team. He makes friends! He legitimately gets close to them!
So naturally, the good times promptly die with the next major episode.
Hollow Mind.
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*Heavy sigh*
Personally, this is one of my favorite episodes of the season. And in this context, it serves perfectly for the reveal behind Hunter's true purpose. He's not meant to naturally exist. He's a literal clone. We see him go from the pompous jerk putting on the front of maturity
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and deteriorate into his true self; a scared, insecure little dude, brought on by years of being abused by Belos coming out like a tidal wave with all the wild revelations making him question everything so much that he has a panic attack.
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But Luz and the others are there and support him and it's GREAT. The way the show handles his existential crises and with writing to support this effectiveness, we get arguably one of the most strongly written characters in the show.
Which is why Miraculous warrants this post.
"Adrien Agreste being a Sentimonster" was a theory I heard of when I first started getting into the show when season 3 was actively airing. I didn't like it! I thought it was ridiculous, cause Adrien being a literal magical creation makes this entire situation complicated and arguably unnecessary.
 And then they went there. 
And I was sad.
On one hand, the way they went about it is about as subtle as a bright red "F" on a test. Hawk Moth/Monarch/Shadow Moth/Jackass Agreste fiddling with the ring to manipulate Adrien and using words like "OBEY" made it pretty clear, and I feel like the show's track record isn't gonna be effective with proper reveals? Like even now Juleka and Rose haven't canonically called each other girlfriends before, but it's PRETTY OBVIOUS given the scenes we SEE WITH THEM! They're not gonna elaborate on this any more than we've been getting. 
The way the show handles this is absolutely abhorrent, especially considering there are so many interesting fanfictions/art pertaining to it. A prime example would be @buggachat and their works—Drowning(In plain sight)" or even the comics they've drawn(you know, the one with Luka and the others) about it. It handles the idea of someone having the realization that their existence being a lie pretty well! It can be related to the subtle themes of parental abandonment and complications pertaining to birth in quite an interesting way! 
And the icing on the cake is that with these two characters, it's a matter of their epiphany that their life and the value it holds isn't something dependent on where they came from, but instead, everyone around you giving you support and showcasing their love, independent of an abusive situation. Hunter has the Hexsquad, Luz, and Camila, all of them giving him the support to have a happy found family, far from the Sticky Icky here. 
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But Gabriel and Adrien don't really have that dynamic. It feels like they're tangentially related. Like it'd be better if they had it be a circumstance where Adrien directly motivated Gabriel in some propensity, but nope.
He’s doing this for himself.
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Gabriel could care less about his son or his personal opinions. He's a douche.
I feel like this stems from my personal gripe towards his characterization cause they flip-flop between him being a (slightly) sympathetic dude and a sociopathic nutcase who repeatedly endangers children and threatened to start WORLD WAR THREE just to bring back his wife. 
I feel like Emilie Agreste as a McGuffin works, but if it actually affected the family in some way. If Gabriel was actually concerned about his son's happiness and doing what he's doing for HIS SON, then he'd be legitimately concerned about his well-being. Present the circumstances reflecting an actual broken family, not a straight up abusive situation.
Y'know, doing what he does in Season Five, but out of the legitimate goodness of his heart?
Adrien as a Sentimonster adds no value to the plot whatsoever. I feel like a better method of writing him would have him be human, but just really dependent on the idea of a parental figure, which is why he's really subservient to his dad, which would warrant him listening to what he says and getting akumatized all the time in the bad timelines. So, naturally Nathalie and the Dupain-Cheng family are more welcoming to him!
And as a PARALLEL to him Felix is the actual sentimonster, explaining why they happen to look super-similar, and giving a bit more of depth to this show's writing- The boy who is free to do what he wants but doesn't out of fear of disappointing his father, and the boy who desires his true freedom but is at the risk of getting eviscerated. It would make lines like Felix saying "You always do what your father tells you?"  Matter more and hit harder. What we got is like if in My Hero Academia or something there was a character who had some super overpowered ability like Time manipulation or something and the story never used it.
And I know I said "No Spoilers" but this is the closest thing to one- Adrien doesn't have a role in the Finale, that's all I'll say. It'd make sense if he DID stuff! It's Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir, not "Just Ladybug." 
Hunter's a deep character and the fact that he's artificially made makes him all the more interesting! 
Adrien's a shallow dude with barely any personality and a "tragic backstory" that doesn't bring anything interesting to the story. He’s a prop.
I could go on, and if you wanna debate/hear more, message me, I’m here for whatever.
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rachelcommitscrimes · 3 months
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my talent is that i can literally recognize bryce papenbrook anytime anywhere any character by their voice
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danidoesntart · 2 months
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Proud owner of a cereal box
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alfiely-art · 4 months
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Bryce is EVERYWHERE I can't escape this man
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shinigami-striker · 7 months
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Tenkai Knights | Thursday, 08.24.2023
Happy 10th anniversary to Tenkai Knights, a Canadian-Japanese anime series produced by Studio Bones (also known for producing anime like My Hero Academia and Soul Eater), while starring an English voice cast (down below):
Johnny Yong Bosch - Guren Nash/Bravenwolf
Todd Haberkorn - Ceylan Jones/Tributon
Ben Diskin - Toxsa Dalton/Valorn
Bryce Papenbrook - Chooki Mason/Lydendor
Yuri Lowenthal - Gen/Dromus
Nika Futterman - Beni/Venetta
Kyle Hebert - Commander Beag
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anonzentimes · 24 days
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I do enjoy Bryce's performance. But in hindsight I think it did have a negative impact on the perception of the character in the English speaking fandom. Because it gives the impression that Nagito is an insincere character. That he's aware that what he does frustrates people, and takes a sadistic pleasure in it. When one of the most tragic things about the character is that he's constantly misunderstood in-universe by people he tries to express genuine admiration for.
While I do also enjoy Bryce's performance mostly for nostalgia and the mannerisms I totally agree with this, also this is just so well worded great job anon!!!
I'm sure it was mostly just what Bryce was told to do by the directors, but it definitely does have a negative impact and I think the English speaking fandom having to research the Japanese side of things just to get the best grasp of Nagito we can is so unfortunate.
it's ESPECIALLY a problem since if you're not dedicated enough you'll never fully understand the character fully. He makes you think since he's the most complicated character in the franchise and I love that, but his English voice in ITSELF practically being a mistranslation, or easy misinterpretation, makes things so much more difficult for the English audience then it's meant to be.
I will give Bryce credit for listening to criticism and making his Nagito voice sound a Little more sincere in the Danganronpa 3 anime, but at that point I think the damage has already been done.
There's a reason when Nagito gets the personality reversing Despair Disease he gets the LYING Disease. Once people understand that he's a sincere character only lying when he deems it necessary it goes a long way to understanding his character as a whole. it's sad that his english voice exaggerating his insane traits makes it really difficult to grasp that about him at first.
He suffers from the inability to understand most social cues, emotional numbness, and not being understood by the people he's trying to communicate to. All of that I'd also say is really tragic.
Not being able to be understood i'd say is my worst enemy, I'd probably have mental breakdowns all the time if I were him.
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cokeaddict3000 · 1 year
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THE ULTIMATE CHARACTER VOICED BY BRYCE PAPENBROOK
Round 1: Group 4
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Host note: Istg the pedo better not make it far in this tournament…
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