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insertdisc5 · 3 years

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Hi!! I wanted to ask, in celebration of Deltarune CH. 2, do you have any updated thoughts and head canons about the game?? Like, y'know, similar to a previous ask about Kris in your Deltarune tag? Thanks!

thoughts on kris part 2 i guess???? (part 1 from ch1 here lol)

spoilers for deltarune like woah. this wont be kris focused just random thoughts on everything. thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk

not that many thoughts for this chapter tbh! EDIT LOL: this was a lie i have a lot of thoughts

-just in general i feel like the player isn't the only one controlling kris... like yes the player forced kris to do what happened in the snowgrave route but AT THE SAME TIME idk it feels like there's someone else too. just because of the terrifying voice i suppose. and also the jerky movement kris does every time they get their soul out? unless there's another reason for it... maybe getting your soul out means you walk weird lol

-BUT ALSO i feel like kris is 100% in control when they create fountains. idk it just makes sense kris would create them. to create another world, a better world, A WORLD WHERE THEIR BROTHER IS HERE PERHAPS? i do wonder why they get their soul out then though. i'm all for it sweetie! do whatever! i support you!

-(i am and will be playing deltarune with only kris' best interests in mind. i will not hurt anyone unless kris wants me to. dont worry my little meow meow im on your side! talk to me! no? okay ill stay under the sink its fine)

-speaking of asriel. SUMMER VACATION COLLEGE WHEN? SUMMER VACATION COLLEGE WHEN? SUMMER (starts crying) V-VACATION COLLEGE WHEN

-kris misses their brother so much it's so sad. if you make kris steal 5$ from asriel they take it "reluctantly"? talking to asriel online so often even alphys knows?? the google search?? GOING INTO ASRIEL'S GOOGLE SEARCH ROOM WITH THEIR EYES CLOSED BECAUSE THEY'RE CONVINCED THEY ALREADY KNOW WHATS IN THERE? THAT ONE IS LESS OF A MISSING THING BUT IM LIKE OH MY GOD

-the city walk with susie at the end makes it clear to me that kris really values susie's friendship... kris even sits with her if you spend long enough near the lake like aaaaah ;_;

-and even in snowgrave you spend your last acts with the final boss calling for your friends like YES there's a way bigger creepy aspect to this (kris as more of a Leader who Commands and commands their subjects to come) but still :'0 (and then noelle answers oh my god noelle im so sorry for the trauma)

-berdly. listen. listen. listen. liste

-berdly sucks but [berdly hurts his arm in the battle against queen if you don't save him because he doesnt want to hurt you] [berdly realizing smg's wrong in snowgrave and immediately taking steps to save noelle] berdly is my little crumb nugget. i will protect him.

-noelle. noelle. girlboss!

-like ooooh listen. hearing about the genocide path for undertale. made me go "that is SO COOL. i HAVE to experience it myself this is great. hehehe killing time" and like no regrets. i was fully enjoying the experience knowing i was an awful person. SNOWGRAVE THOUGH. i will never try this myself its too fucked up. casually grooming your childhood friend to murder people <3 and also acting like a weird stalker towards her <3 stockholm syndrome speedrun i will get all the info i can about this but i will never do this myself

-people remarking the kris/player>noelle relationship is similar to the relationship between player>chara in genocide path is like yes. chefs kiss. don't worry we just are making you stronger and everything will be fine "you made me kill my friend? and for what?" this is fine sweetie don't worry about it!!!!!!

-like the amount of details added to snowgrave, like if you equip noelle's watch she notices later? and her battle animations change as time goes on, she gets an ice shield and stops sighing in relief after battle? oh my god? oh my god.

-(berdly is not awake.) JUST KILL ME RIGHT HERE I HAVEN'T STOPPED THINKING ABOUT BERDLY NOT BEING AWAKE!!!!!

-also why didnt he turn into dust. so many possible reasons. is magic a thing in the normal world and perhaps no magic means no dust (theres graves). maybe he isnt dead. maybe hes braindead. maybe he'll come back. either way that boy is now in the closet big enough to put someone in

-also dess' name probably being december AND THATS WHY NOELLE LOST THE SPELLING BEE?!?!??! FUCK ME UP!!!!! JUST FUCK ME UP!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!

-also so many good pixel art this chapter. too many? i didnt need pixel art of cardboard noelle falling on the statue. like thank you but please. please it hurts my game artist brain.

-the expressions in this chapter were also top notch. all the unsettling noelle expressions like (i fall over face first)

-i threw away the ball of junk (which i already tried in ch1) and this time the game was like "ARE YOU SURE BC THIS IS A BAD IDEA" and kris felt bitter :'( (it deletes all your items in the dark world)

-i uh fucked up and skipped the susie+noelle scene bc listen last time ralsei mentionned seeing what susie is doing we missed some PRIMO LORE. turns out it just makes you skip the scene and you dont get anything new. welp

-speaking of ralsei well you know. he exists. but im stuck on him going "i just wonder what being ralsei-like even is...?" ralsei my dude there's so much i could say about this. do you feel like you can't be ralsei-like because you feel like you have to be asriel-like

-but also that makes no sense bc susie hasnt even mentioned ralsei looks like asriel. and i cant imagine asriel being so meek. so WHAT GIVES

-ralsei as kris’ “i wish i was a monster just like my bro and family and i’d look like asriel but with red horns [THE HALLOWEEN COSTUME] and my name would be something cool like ralsei instead of a boring human name like kris and im sweet and cute because thats how i act with asriel because ASRIEL MADE ME” theory because that would be cute.

-ASRIEL GOING TO THE CHURCH TO CONFESS HIS "SINS" WHEN "SINS" AREN'T A THING IN THE ANGEL BELIEF LIKE I KNOW THIS INTERACTION WAS TREATED AS A JOKE BUT WHAT THE FUCK ASRIEL?

-kris definitely has a connection with the big red door in the city, judging by what the kids say they probably went there... i feel like this place's dark world will be the Final Dungeon you KNOW some shit happened there. also the sounds you hear when you go there is the phone dark world call's sound slowed down? AND AFTER SNOWGRAVE APPARENTLY YOU CANT HEAR IT ANYMORE? HUWAH?

-speaking of songs the songs were all so good, My Castle Town rules, the berdly snowgrave music is stuck in my head, flashback is uwah wuahah, Until Next Time is so good, AND ALSO A FRIEND NOTICED THE DARK WORLD CITY THEME IS JUST tHE SONG 74 (MOST NOTICEABLE WITH THE SNOWGRAVE VERSION)?????? WHAT DOES IT MEAN????? it might be just "hey its just reuse" BUT MR FOX YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA READ INTO THIS IS NOELLE THE ONE SINGING IDK BRO!!!!!!!!!!

-asgore dreemurr fired from the force what happun!!!!! game theory is that asgore is related to dess' death/disappearance but eh who knows

-you start the chapter at lvl2 and get to lvl3 after the final boss, a friend mentioned this is probably because we destroyed a world and im :0

-to go back to kris it's still so interesting to figure out who they are based on how they act/people mention them. like kris shaking the ferris wheel car? yeah makes sense i can imagine a pranking kid do this. kris' dance? yeah thats a little silly but i can buy it. doing cool anime poses? well i dunno this doesnt line up PERFECTLY but sure. BUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN SNOWGRAVE... especially >proceed like that is such a weird thing that i can't imagine them doing, but i can't completely see the "player" doing either (compare with going to sans -which kris doesnt know- and going "SANS!" because of course the player would know sans), like THATS one of the reasons i feel like there's someone else in there. the weird robotic merciless actions. if im going super meta it feels like there'd be someone else like writing the choices into existence for us to pick you know? gaster probably? god i need to read more gaster theories i completely sidestepped the gaster shit bc i wasnt interested. anyway just spitballing

-(looks at big shot guy) please dont make him the next tumblr guy i beg you

-obligatory "queen was great" mention if only because this part made me laugh a little bit too hard

that was a lot. thank you for letting me talk

#ask tag #deltarune #deltarune spoilers #snowgrave spoilers

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wolf-stark · 3 years

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You ask I deliver — both tfatws asks in one!

tfatws weekly ask 1

i finally saw ep1!! i wont be able to see ep2 until thursday at the earliest but i already have some Thots on this ep. here are the ones I remember

first is, and i'm so sorry for this, a grammar lesson. an appositive is when you stick an additional phrase in between commas, dashes, or the like. i actually just used one! the "and i'm so sorry for this" in the first sentence of this paragraph is an appositive. thing is, most english speakers don't normally use them when they speak, only in writing. so i'm always on high alert whenever i hear somebody in tv or movies use one. (it's generally a marker of bad screenwriting). anyway there was one right in the beginning of the episode. the white army guy yelling at sam wilson said "first lieutenant Torres, our intel officer, will be helping on the ground." yeah so. the writing of this series started out on the wrong foot for me. but the rest of the episode was obviously tons and tons better (every interview i see with malcolm spellman makes me love him more and more)

the contrast between the opening minutes (falcon action sequence) and the rest of the ep.... i would 100000/10 rather watch a series with just sam and bucky dealing with life. i dont give a single crap about the flag-smashers or any of that. i just want sam, sarah & fam getting their boating business back on the ground & yeeting racist dickwads, bucky going through therapy and making amends, sam and joaquin being bros, sambucky homoerotic tension, etc.

the cinnamontography! wandavision mostly used cinematography to signify era n stuff. tfatws doesn't have wv's premise to go off of, so here's some tricks i noticed:

with sam there's obviously all sorts of shots with the captain america iconography next to his face, but he hasn't totally claimed it. there's the mural of steve rogers in the background; there's sam staring into the shield like it's a spectre of steve's face; there's sam looking into the exhibit, the shield and sam separated by glass and a layer of camera focus. steve is a constant spectre, always there, an idea, a symbol himself. sam's relationship with this iconography is distanced. he is separated by glass exhibit walls. by painting canvases. he doesn't yet feel worthy to take on that iconography. this whole thing was pulled off quite well but also a bit on-the-nose if only in quantity. there's just sooooo much fancy iconography stuff

speaking of the exhibit, there's something that i get real pissy about. it's when like, there's an action going on you're supposed to be paying attention to but the cinematographer is like,,,, hey! check out this location! or this headline! or something! there was a lot of that in the exhibit. the camera was like, you could focus on sam and rhodey's convo (which was fine but could have been so much better with an extra like 10 minutes of deep character study talk) but noooo you want me to look at the symbol for the united nations and read all the text about bucky who hasn't even showed up yet. shut up i know the lore and ill watch the shot-by-shot breakdown yt vids you don't have to make the shot this long jkdsalcjklasejf

my fav trick was with bucky and the therapist. i had seen a clip of the scene with bucky and the therapist beforehand and i thought the cinnamontography was super obnoxious, but then i was like, oh duh. the shots frequently change the distance between the camera and its subject. sometimes it's uncomfortably close and sometimes it's really far. a clear allegory for the duality of therapy, esp for bucky! therapy is an invasive process wherein he is ruthlessly examined, picked apart, and berated for his trauma (this therapist is crap in every way btw, "mean therapist" works for greg house and greg house only). so the camera goes close. it makes the viewer claustrophobic like bucky. but when he's like "no i haven't had any nightmares" the camera suddenly goes really far. we see bucky as this tiny head in the center of the bottom of the frame. we are distanced from him. he has pushed us away. we cannot see him. he lies because he is vulnerable. so yeah, amazing work there. the therapy scene was hard to watch on purpose!

did bucky slip a note to yori inside the dollar bill? bucky stop making me emooooo. the suuper awkward fake smile has me 😭 (veteran trying to adjust!)

mark my worrrrds when sam asks someone y the govt picked john “white bread” walker they’re gonna say “we needed somebody everyone can get behind....someone uncontroversial, someone everyone can see themselves in” like that exact racist dog whistle

tfatws weekly ask 2

just saw ep2 so im taking advantage of the 2 seconds i can be on tumblr without worrying about tfatws spoilers before new episode drops

when isaiah said "your people put me in prison for being a hero" and bucky thought "your people" means hydra. 🤦‍♂️

speaking of racism, the interplay between sam being Black (anti-Black racism) and sam being the Falcon (negrophilia, "can i take a selfie w you as i deny you a loan?") and the intersection between the two (j*hn lichrally called sam "steve's wingman"! he takes the crypto out of crypto-racist in like 2 seconds!) !!!!!!!! a Black celebrity's Black experience, the separation of man and identity!!!! (thinking about vanessa bayer in snl in that skit "beyonce is black" telling her black friend "you're not black, you're...my girl!")

after sam gets racially profiled by cops we see j*hn standing in front of cop cars cinematic parallels turns out j*hn is racist who knew

this therapist sucks major ass but she got bucky and sam together in the same room and ready to collaborate...that's something ig. it was lichrally couple's therapy she said she used her miracle exercise with couples sambucky antis get blended

bucky says "he was wrong about you so maybe he was wrong about me"...that's not how people talk. when therapist asks bucky, the guy who doesn't talk at all about himself, "y do you hate sam", the last thing bucky's gonna do is actually connect his hatred of sam to his own self-worth issues. bucky generally refuses to talk about himself, so why would he talk about himself in the one context that nobody ever links back to their own neuroses: hatred of other people? one thing human beings hate most is admitting we're wrong. admitting you hate someone because of your own issues? that's a major therapeutic step. bucky would absolutely have to be prompted to do that. even like one or two lines of dialogue more would have set up that line better. but in terms of the actual thought? an amazing way to take the sam/bucky relationship. bucky bases his self-worth on steve believing in him, and if steve is wrong bucky has no self-worth, so 1) he has to develop self-worth disassociated from steve's assessment of him and 2) he has to love himself before he can love sam, and 3) he has to realize that sam giving up the shield is a sign of sam's humility not his unworthiness.

conversely, we don't get into why sam hates bucky? yeah sam has the right to hate a guy that has tried to kill him (albeit while brainwashed) multiple times, and now shows up in his life just to bash him but. everything happens so fast i cant follow their relationship

in fact i dont feel like i understood much of anything. like y did bucky and sam go on that mission together? how connected are sam/bucky/joaquin with the government? doesn't bucky just want to retire now? literally what is everyone doing/feeling and why???

if battlestar becomes a knowing commentary on the black best friend stereotype i'm gonna party, but i dont expect much of that

the interplay between man and symbol. captain america is obviously a symbol. the shield is obviously a symbol. but steve rogers? the. man behind the cowl? he too seems to become a symbol. a paragon of a good guy, so good he's unreachable. steve was just a guy stop idolizing him the last thing steve would want is to be idolized

as the resident musician/music nerd on mcublr, 1) that captain america rally music slaps, but 2) re: the song at the end of the ep, if you're just gonna rip off mozart's lacrymosa then at least play mozart's lacrymosa. we wont blame you the lacrymosa slaps (if you dont know what im talking about go on yt and search it up youll recognize it fo sho

look i love enfys nest as much as the next guy but if tfatws is gonna get erin kellyman to play another innocent little gurl blackmailed into the fakeout-villain position (her text seemed to suggest as such) then 😡 like why can't women just....be evil? young, freckly, innocent-looking women? girls are not untouchable pure objects but full of rage and resentment just as much as anyone can be

bonus ep1 comment: bucky says about that senator whose car he hijacked, "she continued to abuse the power i gave her." fictionaldarling on yt say that he says "i" because he can't disassociate himself from his winter soldier persona which begets endless and senseless guilt. like dude. can i not be emo for like 1 second.

OKay. First off, as much I enjoy your sending it to me, what made you decide to send me these??

TFATWS WA #1

Don't worry about getting this to me as early as possible. I usually don't watch the episode right away.

1. Cool writing lesson.

2. Everyone wants a comedy show [like Friends] about the MCU superheroes.

3. Cinematography is always a beautiful thing.

4. Sam definitely has to carve his own Captain America status for himself, outside of Steve's ya know everything.

5. They have to do that for people who was just now tuning in because they're in love with Sam Wilson or Sharon Carter.

6. I think the therapist was taking a 'tough love' approach for Bucky, because she likely has some very strong opinions about the literal assassin she's been assigned to give therapy too. She did not choose to talk to him, she was assigned that make that clear in the second episode.

And, Bucky isn't lying when he said it wasn't a nightmare. It wasn't a nightmare, it was a resurfaced memory. So, technically he wasn't lying - and yes, the camera does move away because while he's saying he didn't have a nightmare, he's not expanding on what actually happened - so, he's still pushing the therapist/us away.

7. Bucky, and Steve, have/had a TON to adjust to.

8. Yeah, I agree that will be the bullshit line they give. If they ever actually talk about it.

TFATW WA #2

Yeah, always got to take advantage of avoiding those spoilers lmfaoo.

1. Honestly, that line was double meaning. Both about White people and Hydra [which is made up of mostly white supremacists/nazis] So, the line is gesturing to both White People in general and Hydra assholes together. I think the terminology is “double edge sword”??

2. This whole paragraph structure confused me, ngl - so I'm going to answer it the best I can. I do like that they're not ignoring the fact that Sam being Black is 1000% the reason he's not the Official Captain America - because the gov't is racist as hell.

I also like the little lines about how they point out little things about Sam's Falcon persona, like that kid calling him 'Black Falcon' specifically and Sam's response show the split between Sam and Falcon itself.

John is a dick for calling Sam the wingman of Steve Rogers. Sam was a hero all on his own before Steve asked him to join up again. [Side note, it's lichrally??]

3. Exactly, the parallel of Sam being profiled and surrounded while just on the street and John being surrounded by fans and being able to spring Bucky with apparently only a few sentences shows a Loooooot

4. Honestly, at this point I wonder if she's not actually a therapist and is just an agent assigned to assess Bucky outside of an Official Building. I do know, however, that her 'look at each other and speak' exercise is actually a real therapy practice. It's just a little slower.

5. Actually, I think he would've blurted that out. That whole line. I don't think Bucky hates Sam. I think they could've done the scene better, but I think that had Sam prodded him/the therapist been more annoying Bucky would've lost control of his emotions and blurted out the whole "If he was wrong about you, he was wrong about me" but I feel like the writing for this show is just... not there. Sometimes you blurt shit when you get overemotional and I think that was what Bucky was supposed to be like.

6. I don't think Sam hates Bucky, I think he doesn't trust him though. I do wish they'd talked about that though. The whole 'talk to each other' scene should've been a LOT longer and a LOT slower.

7. Sam and Bucky's relationship is being fast tracked because they don't really know how to work the relationship out, writers-room-wise. Bucky is technically retired, but I feel like he's trying to live up to Steve's expectations and doing what Steve would've done and we all know that if Steve was there, Steve would've jumped on that plane with Sam. It looks like Sam/Bucky/Joaquin are a side-team based from Military services but as Sam says they're all free agents so...?

8. Sadly, They seem to just be propping up to be another stereotype.

9. Captain America is a symbol. Steve Rogers is a man. But now Steve Rogers is an idol because of all the shit he's been through and honestly, it's not a bad thing he's become an idol for people - it's using Steve as a reason to make White Bread Walker the next Captain that makes Steve's idolization so fucked.

10. I don't know anything about music so I have no opinion here, sorry.

11. Enfys?? Also, I think they did the whole Innocent Girl Thing as side commentary for Bucky lowering his guard about seeing a young girl rather than a guy.

12. Bucky is the Winter Solider. The Winter Solider is Bucky. That is how Bucky will always see it because although he was brainwashed, it was still him and he remembers all of it. When you have constant memories of something 'someone else' did, you tend to not be able to pull the two personas out of each other. I want Bucky to take up the title, White Wolf instead of Winter Soldier. Honest.

This is all my opinion, I’m honestly a little disappointed with the writing of TFATWS so far so... I’m not really optimistic about this.

#Asks

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huntsman-ash · 3 years

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RWBY LiveThoughts: V8E7

Since I finally have time for it today, lets make sure Im all caught up for the hiatus.

Before we get fully started, an idea; Its not a war crime if they’re Grimm. Then its just self defense. So break out the napalm, the cluster bombs, the chemical weapons, the fun stuff. Make em regret it, yeah?

And we start off...on a farm. Looks like my moms old farm in South Dakota. Even on Remnant, hay is best used in bales.

Waiiiit. Thats the place the Whale set down isnt it. I see a Sayber running. Ah, and the Atlas military! Surely, the vanguard of a massive force to hold the line! Also Im glad to see a close up of the helmet for once, I want to make my own. Also, the gloves, and the rifle itself. Not sure why it doesnt have a stock, seems kind of silly...

And airships too, so they got some fire support...whats that wall behind them though?

Also it TOOK US 8 FUCKING SEASONS to get a close up of these FUCKING Weapons. 8. FUCKING. SEASONS. Okay maybe more like 5 cause they didnt first appear till 3 or so but come on. Im so picking this shit apart later.

Pfft, bros got some nerves going on. Come on man, its just some Grimm, you’ll be FINE.

Atlas field harvesters resemble Halo’s JOTUN Farming equipment. As wel as our own. No surprise there.

Alright, bunch of Saybers, not seeing much of a threat here.

Hey, Paladins! Damn, they...look way different than I remember them to be.

I wont lie, I dont like the Paladin design. Way to much visual noise, I cant tell where anything IS.

Also that is the most 2D grass I have sever seen in my fucking life. What the hell are they growing here...

Huh, the whale has two sets of teeth. Wait, its just there? And its wpewing out Grimm. So...why isnt the air force firing on it?

Yeah its not moving, its just raising its head and slamming down and vomiting out more Grimm. Im not sure what the issue is here, just...seal the mouth.

Oh, huh. Apathys. Let me guess, RTs gonna try and tell us depression is going to kill most of Atlas. Oh for fuck sake. IM NOT IMPRESSED RT. IM REALLY NOT. IM MORE FUCKING ANNOYED THAN ANYTHING

Okay so...I see what this is. Its farm land outside of atlas proper and there’s an additional wall behind them, plus the power lines I guess? Seems like a viable place to make a stand.

...thats it. Please tell me this is just a single detachment of the Atlas military because there is less firepower here than a NATIONAL GUARD UNIT ASSIGNED TO ONE CITY

Im fairly certain there are more people assigned to ONE UNIT attached to JBLM then I amm seeing here.

Not to mention this is an OPEN FIELD the Grimm have to run through. This is a literall fucking TURKEY SHOOT. Running across an open field anywhere is a ticket to DYING.

Just ask the poor fucks on D-day.

Also uh...why is everyone in line formation? What is this, fuckin’ 18009s combat Napoleon style?

And did the distance suddenly change, I feel like the whale suddenly got a hell of a lot closer.

Just...I dont get this. This makes no sense. Did Ironwood learn how to deploy forces from a fairy tale book? This is legitimately some fuckin Lord of the Rings shit here.

RIP that one specific trooper hit by that Behemoth though. Dont worry friend, the thing walked next to a Paladin. Its getting its eye blasted out

And cut back to Ironwood. Doing...fuck if I know what.

Staring angrily it seems.

“Dammit, my tactical deployment by line formation and parade ground tactics isnt holding back the Grimm, curses!”

Well MAYBE IF YOUD THOUGHT TO INVEST IN SOME FUCKING AIR SUPPORT...Seriously.

I know people have told me why this is. I understand myself why this is. But it really just...does...not...jibe with me. At all.

Okay so more details; first, apparently Atlas has a subway. Makes sense, its a big island. Inter-system transits probably a given. Second; Was that Mantis Squad Omega? Some kind of unit maybe...interesting.

Also I love how this guy just questions Ironwood. Like, bro, if the General says do it, do it.

Hold the fuck up, why is everyone outside? It looks like fuckin’ Cali during our lockdowns...what ever happened to martial law huh?

Also “underground subway stations”. Yes, thats...kind of what a subway IS. I guess maybe they have overhead ones like New York does. Mass transit be weird like that.

I mean HELL the signs on it are almost identical to the ones in NYC too! Even with the colored circles and train cnumbers.

According to the sign here they’re at Pickens Square Station.

Oh boy. Ironwood just fed these poor bastards into a meat grinder. Anyone here ever played the Metro game series, or read the books?

Remember the Dark Ones? The Nosallias? Yeah. Tight corridors and monsters only work out well for angry vodka fueled Russians.

Didnt see it very well but I THINK those Mantas had some kind of wing gun. Either thats new, a separate armament setting, or RT forgot what ind of weapons they gave their ships AGAIN.

Cant get the shields back up, yeah, no shit, they DETACHED ONE OF THE FUCKING PILOTS YOU IDIOTS.

Also hah, they arrested Yang, Ren and Jaune. Not surprised.

Beta squads apperently been hitting the whale. ‘Bombs, missiles, we cant make a dent, sir.” ...while Im not surprised by this, I also hear shades of the opening of Halo 2s level Metropolis. “Where’s the rest of your platoon?” “Wasted, sarge. Blew right through us. Rockets, fifty cals, didnt do nothing.”

Honestly they could have SHOWED THAT too. Them just saying it feels like a cop out to me. Take that as you will. But if you want us to see the things hard to kill, show it.

Not that I figure Atlas’s rockets are much more than Dust in a propellent tank. Not exactly a Hellfire or TOW.

Nice to see proper military talk for...a moment anyway.

Or what I figure RT figures is proper.

Oh so now the whales moving. Okay...huh.

Jaunes commentary is the same as mine. Though I guess the size seems to shift depending.

Ohhh. Its MANTA. As in the gunships. Alright, sure that works. And this guys making a good call. If you cant hit the big one go after the smaller. Of which there seems to be a HELL of a lot. Actually holy fuck that Grimm spew is across like...ahlf the fucking island right now. Time to fuckin torch and burn people.

Ahhhhhh and they get to the proper idea. If you cant punch it from the outside, hit it from the inside.

I knew a crew...three madmen, names of Keegan, Lahni and Mac. The Hivebusters. Something tells me a Venom bomb would do the trick...if it can rip apart Swarm creatures as big as a Snatcher or a Swarmak and reduce them to green slime, I think it’ll work on Grimm.

Something tells me RT isnt gonna give em a bomb though. Too obvious.

NEVER MIND. “Science team is putting together a bomb.”

Also I LOVE how Winter’s pupils expand and retract in fear as she realizes what Ironwoods asking her to do.

Awww now shes getting the shakes too.

Salem directing this shit like shes some kind of orchestra leader. I mean it FITS but...I dunno.

Ah so the command deck is directly behind the whale’s glowing nose. Basically inside where the spermacetiy organ would be in a real sperm whale.

What the fuck is Emerald doing there?

Sneaking I guess. Huh. Why’s she sneaking around the whale. Also, huh. guess seeers can get fooled by Emeralds semblance. Is HE STILL BEATING UP ON OSCAR? Jeez dude. Take a breather.

Honestly if this was TRUE I would be okay with it. Replace the Huntsman with, I dont know, a massively overequipped military for each Kingdom, let them run rampant...stomp the Grimm out or push them back to nonexistence...everyone lives happily ever after

Lets be real here, the idea of the academies? Really really fucking dumb. Its cute. Fairy tale like.

But if theres one thing this show has taught me its that fairy tales SUCK. Reality...tends to be worse.

Ah theres one of those torture hooks they mentioned a few episodes back. Nice of the whale to have a specific interrigation room.

And at last we get some information on how Salem works. Alright so...what happens if you seperate the parts then? Sink one in the ocean, launch one into space.

Sounds like Oz/Oscars telling the fans what we’ve been saying forever, Companion Book be damned; Salem wants to die.

These mind games bore me. Its cute, but I dont like it cause I cant follow that shit. Give me a straight up fight any day, fuck this sublty backroom fuckery

No lies from them both here honestly.

Medical supplies in Atlas seem almost the same as here on earth interestngly. Also, soup. Or...coffee, tea?

Blake with the obvious here. But I mean thats not really saying much cause...well. Not hard to outfight the Atlas military it seems like. (Long suffering sigh)

Im gonna make a seperate post about my frustrations with that and leave it there. But dont expect me to stop fully complaining about it because everyones gotta have something to bitch about with this show, and I’ll be DAMNED if I start joining the BB whiners.

Good question, Ruby. Might be that YOUR NOT LIVING IN A FAIRY TALE

I’d like to see these people dying in Mantle. I refuse to believe that there isnt SOMEONE in the nation that once brought Remnant to its heel that wont stand and fight. Unless Im wrong about that too...

May backstory? May backstory. Yeah. Not amazingly complicated but it works. Cant tell if shes Henry though...or was.

Dramatic lightning flash

Cute you think that Ruby. Theres sides. Always are.

Further proof honestly.

Hazels look of though is amusing. Cant tell if he doesnt believe Oscar, or if his tiny peabrain is runing full bore to think this through.

Coordination between farm boy and professor.

Oh. OHHHH. Plants the seed of doubt in Hazels tiny mind, he uses the last question for himself, sees the truth... Clever, Oscar. Clever.

Hazel peabrain go THUNK

Ah so Mercs going off to Vacuo. Guess that means everyone else is going there next too. Eat that, random Discord person, I called it.

Course, CFVYs there so...maybe we get to see Yats beat up on him.

Oh hi Tyrian. Do you just...randomly roam the halls of the whale waiting to DRAMATICALLY REVEAL YOURSELF and give violent expositon? Im very much okay with that.

Also I love how he just...accepts this. Totally fucking bonkers, totally down with it.

Oh shit, Tyrian and Mercury going to Vacuo? Damn thats gonna be INTERESTING. I guess Tyrian’ll fit in well enough honestly.

Flying Beringal literally out of the roof.

I remember back when this season first started and I said those weird bone platforms looked like VTOL launch bays. Guess what? They are.

Merc and Em emotion blah blah DONT CAAARRREEE

Jaune thinking tactically for ONCE IN HIS FUCKING LIFE. An I mean military tactical of course.

Also I like how the Aces say they dont let emotions cloud their shit WHEN THEYVE BEEN DOING THAT THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME.

This ENTIRE PLANET is emotionally run. Thats why the Grimm are such an issue! Makes small note to make Remnant Adeptus Mechanicus cult

Seriously though...

I wont lie though, Hare isnt wrong. Wonder what happened to that Tortuga guy. Tyrian, is my guess. Love how Ren interrupts the moment they almost mention Clovers name.

Expendable, yes. Replacable, no. You should have a talk with squadron leader Grey from Star Wars Squadrons Ren

ANNNNDDD SEMBLANCE EVOLUTION. Or the edibles just kicked in.

This is cool and all but its really fucking dumb and hamfisted. Explain all you want. Mention emotions all you want.

The Aces are fucking huntsmen. HUNTSMEN. FUCKING. SUCK. They always have. Its a dumb idea. Yes, lets stop the hordes of monsters invading this world BY SENDING IN SINGLE OPERATIVES WITH FUCKING MELEE WEAPONS

I’ll make this clear to you, Ren, right here and now. If you faced a REAL elites, you wouldnt have stood a chance. Nor would RWBY. Their bodies would have been three-shot from 20 meters out with a breach and clear and stacked against the wall like cords of wood, one final shot to the dome to make dead sure they were down. None of this stupid flipping and acrobatic crap, none of this clashing weapons and Dust and semblances...no.

You’d be dead before you knew they were there and they would move on. You’d just be another body to the pile, one more faceless corpse to add to their kill count. A meatgrinder in human form.

Professionals. Dont. Lose. AND THE ACES ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS!

Because thats not what RWBYs about, never has been. And that is what annoys me slightly. That and the fact I cant distangle what I know of other universes and our own from RWBY’s. Its hard to hold a universe on its own when everything they make points towards it being like ours, but they change it when they see fit.

I feel like thats bad writing.

Hehehe. Winter touched Elms boob.

Glad to know that Winters got her priorities right. Course, that bomb probably aint gonna do shit cause its Dust based.

...again, hoping its a chemical weapon...

Wait, the Atlas forces from earlier are STILL FIGHTING? Damn, these Grimm must suck if they couldnt wipe them out in that little time...

Also I cant tell if its getting dark cause of the storm or if its the dawn of the next day. Or did...they shift time around? I lost track. I SWORE the sun was setting the last time we saw everything.

Also return of the shitty 3D grass...

Marrows gonna defect.

Awww poor Winters got emotions. HEY MAYBE DONT SEND A MENSTRATING WOMAN OUT ON A FIELD OP, ATLAS!

So according to May there’s still front lines. Cool.

AYYY ITS KLIEN! HES BACK

Oh, I guess hes a doctor too. Oh he MAD.

Ayyy Whitleys being USEFUL for fucking once in his shitty life.

Shes gonna hug him isnt she.

CALLED IT. For fuck sake...whatever. Cute. But whatever.

Oh annnnddd now Grimmquake?

No. It stopped...Bolide?

No. PENNY.

Annnnddd shes leaking coolant. And sparking. And dead.

RIP Penny.

The concept art of the beached whale looks so fucking silly. Seriously, just...detach the whole section there. Drop the fucking thing.

Oh well.

And thats it for almost two months! Be prepared for me to BULLSHIT MY WAY THROUGH ALL OF IT and continue on with my military fanwank because THATS HOW IM SURVIVING 2020!

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby v8 #spoilers

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Your first love isn’t always your last, you know. Dumbass.

Heyo!~

This is a continuation of the fan fic my friends and I are writing. Hope you like!

It’d been a few month since Evie and Katsuki started dating. Things were great when they were great, but when things got bad, shit would almost always hit the fan. Katsuki never dared to put his hands on his girlfriend, but the words he would spit stung like the strongest poison known to man. And Evie was close to her breaking point. She could tell that something was causing these outbursts, the lack of trust, the venom he spit in his words was almost not even aimed at her, it was like he was hiding something. But he wouldn’t tell her.

The last strike was tonight. They’d had a wonderful night out together, even ran into Cal, Denki, Nina and Aizawa while on their own dates out in town. Everything was all smiles, until they went to go get ice cream at their favorite shop.

Walking into the shop, they waved to the cashier whom they’ve become familiar with. “Welcome guys! Take a seat anywhere. The usual I assume?” He asks, a bright smile on his face. Evie smiles up at Katsuki, who smirks as he runs a hand over her curly purple hair, kissing her forehead. “Yeah!” Katsuki says, reaching in his pocket. “Go choose somewhere to sit, babe. I’ll go pay.” He says, running a thumb across her cheek before walking off. “Okay!” Evie says, keeping her bright smile.

She chooses a booth by the window, staring out as the sky turned from an orange red to a purple pink, her aura beaming a relaxing blue. She sighed. It’d been about two weeks since their last fight, and she felt she could finally relax.

A bump into the table breaks her from her thoughts, causing her to whip around and see Katsuki taking a seat. He smirked at her, admiring her aura as they sat. They shared conversation, talking about their day and their classes, and started to discuss a group project for the class they shared, Herbology. They needed to get a hold of the rest of the group to make said plans for the project official, but they wanted a set list of ideas first.

Evie turned and smiled lightly as the waiter brought their order, a shared strawberry shake with two small parfaits. Evie’s being chocolate covered strawberry, and Katsuki’s being a plain chocolate. They ate, going from topic to topic before someone interrupted their date. They both look up, and Katsuki immediately stiffens.

Fuck, Andrew.

Name: Andrew; Hero name: Obsidian. His quirk: Black lightning. He can control electricity throughout his body, once said electricity enters his body, it emits as a black lightning, able to paralyze his enemies with different current and wattage. He does not short circuit his brain as often as Denki, but it does happen from time to time. His vulnerable state only being 15-20 minutes.

A smirk lay across his face, only giving his attention to Evie. Not tonight, fuck anytime but tonight. Evie thought as he opened his mouth to speak. “Hey beautiful.” He says, his deep voice sounding purposely flirtatious. “Hi.” She replies, looking back at her parfait and continuing to eat. She could feel Katsuki’s glare harden at Andrew as she ate, doing everything she could to ignore him. “Hey, don’t look so down buttercup. The look on your face doesn’t suit you.” He says, reaching down and grabbing Evie by the chin and forcing her attention back on him. Before he could speak again, Katsuki’s hand was already on his wrist.

“What the fuck do you think you’re doing, Extra?” Katsuki asks, tightening his grip as his hands begin to spark. Andrew turns over to him, smirking harder. His black eyes burning with excitement. He LOVED riling up Katsuki in any way possible. Even if it meant hurting Evie in the end.

“Oh, I see you’re still with hot head boom boom boy over here. Shame. If only you’d let a real man show you how you can be treated. I wouldn’t bring you to these shit shops, I’d take you to real places around the world.” Andrew says, not breaking eye contact with Katsuki. Evie glances over to her boyfriend, watching the expression on his face get more and more mad. The sparks on Andrews wrist getting larger to the point Evie can feel them on her face.

Evie pulls away, not breaking away from looking at Katsuki. “Baby, not here. Please.” She pleaded, side eyeing Andrew. Too late. Andrew was already activating his quirk, black lighting sparking as Katsuki’s explosions on his hands slowly got larger. Evie’s aura flashed orange in annoyance, then red in anger. She stood, causing Andrew to loose concentration enough for Katsuki to use his quirk on his wrist then blasting him to the other side of the store and knocking him into another table. Katsuki stands, rubbing his hands together in preparation to fight. Evie gets out from the booth spreading her arms and blocks Katsuki from going any further.

“Katsuki please, not here. Let’s get back to the dorms.” She says, standing her ground as Katsuki looks at her in disbelief, then his expression drops. “Tch, whatever. Fine.” He says, turning and walking off without her. Evie turns to see Andrew rubbing his head and looking over, smiling cockily. “Stupid fucker.” He says, loud enough for Katsuki to hear, causing him to turn around and runs for Andrew. Evie uses her quirk to activate a shield, stopping Katsuki in his tracks. “Babe, STOP!” She says from behind as Andrew walks up behind her, running his hand up her back and shocking her lightly.

Evie looses concentration, letting the shield go down and punches him with an aura orb around her wrist. He keeps his smirk, walking towards the door. “Hmph. What a shit show. I’m out of here.” Andrew says, bumping Katsuki who’s staring Evie down in disbelief. Katsuki turns around and walks out of the front door, heading to the university. Evie turns to the cashier, offering to pay for any damages. He laughs, and says its alright. It was the most action they’d seen in a while, and there were no major damages to the store, so they’d let it slide.

The walk back to the school was silent. Evie tried making conversation a few times, but Katsuki wouldn't budge. As they made their way, she followed him into his dorm and looked around. ‘

Then, everything went to hell.

As soon as Katsuki closed the door, before Evie even had the chance to put her things down, She was pinned to the wall. “Babe what the hell-” “What the FUCK was that, HUH?” Katsuki yelled, holding her wrists on the wall. “What are you talking about??” Evie yelled back, her aura returning to a red. “WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DEFEND HIM, EVIE? WHY THE FUCK DID YOU LET HIM TOUCH YOU?” He screamed, hitting the wall before letting her go and taking a step back.

“Defending who?? Andrew? I wasn’t defending him, dumbass! I WAS TRYING TO CALM YOU DOWN.” She barked back. “SO YOU JUST LET ANYONE FUCKING COME IN AND TOUCH YOUR CHIN LIKE THAT? YOU LET JUST ANYONE RUN THEIR FUCKING HANDS UP YOUR BACK?” He yelled, his hands beginning to spark. “KATSUKI I FUCKING PUNCHED HIM! DID YOU MISS THAT?” She yelled back, her quirk color only getting darker and darker.

“HE STILL FUCKING TOUCHED YOU. AND YOU LET HIM. WHAT, YOU LET ANYONE JUST COME UP AND DO THAT? I THOUGHT YOU WERE DIFFERENT, NOT SOME.. SOME.. IGNORANT SLUT!”

Evie froze, her aura going from a deep red to cold blue. Hot tears welled in her eyes. Katsuki stopped, watching her aura. Almost instantaneouly , his voice quietened. “I, I didn’t mean that.. I’m so-” “No.” Evie says, her shaky voice cutting off Katsuki. “Ka-Katsuki. I can’t fucking do this anymore.” She says, hot tears running down her cheeks. “Wait, what are you saying?” Katsuki says, tears of his own welling in his red eyes. “I.. I think we need a break. I- I’m not your fucking punching bag. I don’t want to cause you any more distress than you’re already facing.” She says between sobs looking down. “Wait-” “No, Katsuki. I’ve been patient. I cant. I can’t.” She whispers, walking out of the door and closing it behind her.

With her back to the door, she lets go of the knob. She stands there for a few seconds, hoping with everything inside of her that Katsuki would come out and stop her. That he would hug her from behind and promise to change. Seconds turned to minutes that felt like hours, and when he didn’t walk out of that door, her heart shattered. More tears fell as she ran to her dorm room. She swore she heard something crash in the room before she left, and thought she heard the door open. Maybe it was her imagination. But she didn’t have the will power to look back.

~~~~~~~~

On the other side of the door, Katsuki stood in the same spot processing everything. Did she just... leave him? The things he said he didn’t mean, but he just could not stop himself from speaking. Shit. SHIT. He stared at the door. Should he go and try to stop her? Should he just leave it? His hands turned to fists, knocking something over of the desk before running to the door and opening it. It was too late. She was gone. He messed up. Katsuki’ eyes burned as tears began to fall. Fuck. FUCK. Not her. He didn’t want to lose her. What is he going to do? Kirishima. He has to know what the hell to do. Katsuki quickly dialed his number and called. One ring. Two. Three. Hes taking too long. Katsuki runs down the hall to Kirishima’s room, banging on the door.

A sleepy Kirishima opens the door. “Hey bro, sorry. I was about to call you back what-” “She left me.” Katsuki blurts out, his voice shaky. “Wait, WHAT?” Kirishima asks, realizing that Katsuki had been crying. Oh hell. “Come inside bro, let’s talk.” He says, clearing the door so Katsuki could enter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

By the time Evie reached her dorm, there were no more tears falling. She didn't have it in her anymore. She takes out her phone, seeing the memes Cal and Nina had been sending back and fourth while she was on her date. With shaky hands, she texted them.

Main Beeches

Ev: Hey guys..

BigTittieGothGF: Hey hey hey!

PoisonIvyWHO?: WASSUP BEECH HOW WAS THE DATE

Ev: We.. uh.. broke up.

BitTittieGothGF: WHAT

PoisonIvyWHO?: We’re on our way.

Evie locked her phone.

Evie sighed. She went into the bathroom and looked at her horrid state. Mascara running, sweat from running making her hair stick, the aura around her a cold blue. She felt disgusting. She undressed, and stood in the shower for what seemed like forever. She let the water wash off the day, washing her hair and scrubbing her body down. Especially her face. She gets out, towel dries, puts on an oversized sweater and some shorts and puts her hair up in a messy bun. She felt clean, a little better now that shed washed her face and calmed a bit. Then, she hears a knock at the door.

She walks over, knowing her friends are on the other side. Using all the strength she had, she forced her quirk to a warmer blue, showing she was sad, but not as bad as before. She twisted her doorknob to be greeted by her friends. Nina smiles lightly. They’re dressed in lose fitting clothes and carrying a few bags. Cal is wearing sweats and a lose fitting tee, her hair in two cute buns on both sides of her head. She is carrying her own bags.

“What’s with the bags?” Evie asks, looking down at them. “Oh, we’re staying over.” Nina says as they pick up one of the bags which has clothes inside. Cal smiles lightly. “We brought snacks and wine. We know how badly you needed us, so we decided to grab a bag of overnight clothes to make sure you were okay.” She says as Evie moves out of the way to let them in.

Unlike UA High, the dorms at UA University were apartment like. They had a small room, a kitchenette, a bedroom and bathroom. There is a common area on the bottom floor of the dorm complex where students can hang out.

Nina places her bags on the couch, and puts some food away in the fridge. Cal places her bags on a table, taking out an abundance of movies and games. Evie actually couldn’t remmeber the last time they had an actual girls night, but it was much needed after everything that went down.

Evie slumps on the carpet, her back on the couch around the coffee table. Nina and Cal take seats around her. Nina speaks first. “So, what happened?” They ask, watching as Evies aura shifted from the blue shade she was holding back to the cold blue. “I.. I have no idea.” Evie says before explaining what happened earlier.

Cal slams a fist on the table, startling the other two. “I knew I didn’t like the fucker. And this Andrew guy, who the hell is he?” She said, anger resonating from her voice. “He’s a friend I went to school with. He’s always been like that. He loves to rile up anyone I date just to get under their skin.” Nina looks down at the notes she’d been taking. “Getting under his skin is one thing, but Bakugo calling you an ignorant slut is not okay.” They say, tapping the tip of the pen at their lip.

Evie let our a deep sigh, they were right. “It took everything to not walk back into that room. We were fine. The night was great until that point..” she says, tears returning to her golden eyes. Nina ran an hand over Evies hair as the tears fell. Cal looked down, trying to think of something to say. In all reality, there was nothing either of Evie’s friends could say. She was broken, all she needed right now was to be surrounded by people who cared. They spent the rest of the night talking about other things, playing games and drinking. Before they knew it, Evie had passed out from both physical and emotional exhaustion, and the drinks.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Bakugo stayed in Kirishimas dorm that night. Too many things had happened in Bakugo’s apartment that made him think of Evie. The boys sat and played games for most of the night, but kirishima knew he had to address the elephant in the room. “So bro, what happened?” He asked after losing yet another round of Mortal Kombat. Bakugo sighed and out the controller down, bringing his knees to his chest and explained the night. Told him what happened. Told him what he said to her. Told him about the broken expression she had on her face when she left. Kirishima sat back and listened, nodding and analyzing the situation. Kirishima can be a real dumbass, but when it came to Bakugo, he always tried to make it right.

“Listen, Bakugo. You don’t think... you’ve been projecting on her?” Kirishima asked hesitantly. Bakugo has ALWAYS been so bad at expressing himself and has always taken it out on other people. He sighed. “I am... I had been... I just... seeing that fuckwad touch her and watching her LET it happen-“ “Bro, you just said she punched him, and that she kept her eyes on YOU. She was trying to protect YOU. You understand that right?” Kiri interrupts, cutting off Bakugo. “I know, kiri. I know. I just..” Bakugo says trailing off. “You don’t think this has anything to do with her?” Kiri asks, staring down Bakugo. He stiffens, putting his forehead on his knees. “It has everything to do with her. I’ve consistently compared that to this, and I-“ “THATS where you’re messing up dude. You can’t constantly remind yourself about the past. You know what that shit does to you.” Kiri says, running a hand through his red spikes. “I KNOW KIRI. I just..” Bakugo says, slamming a fist into the ground. “I can’t lose her.. she means so much more to me than anyone I’ve ever been with.” He finishes, straightening his legs and putting his head back against the bottom of the couch.

“So, win her back.” Kiri says, smiling a toothy smile. “How the hell am I supposed to do that?” Bakugo asks, taking his phone out of his pocket and looking at the time. 1:30 am. The background of his phone still a picture of he and Evie taken about a week beforehand. “Well, she has 2 people she’s very close to that we happen to be able to get into contact with.” Kiri says, making a motion to his phone.

Oh. Right. The Girls.

~~~~~~~~~~

Nina and Cal stayed up a bit longer as Evie slept. They looked over Nina’s notes, trying to analyze the situation. “Why the hell has this hot head been getting so mad lately? He wasn’t like this when they started dating. I mean he was, but not towards her.” Cal says, tapping her nails against the coffee table. Nina takes the pen from behind her ear and scribbles a few things down, then crossing them out immediately. “It doesn’t make sense. I know he cares about her, just the way he looked at her. But to call her that out of nowhere is-’’ they say before hearing a chime on their phone. Seconds later, another chime from Cals bag goes off. The fuck? The two friends glance at each other before grabbing their phones.

New message!

BakuBITCH: Hey.

What the fuck? They look at each other before answering

Ni: What do you want

Cal: The fuck do you need, Bakubitch?

BakuBITCH: listen, I know you’re both mad at me right now. I’m sure she told you. Can I talk to you guys?

Cal began to type furiously, probably with as many curse words as she could think. Nina glances back at Evie before nudging Cal. She looks at them and sighs, holding her thumb on the phone as it plays the tktktktk noise of the VERY long message she’d typed being deleted. Nina texts back.

Ni: we cant talk rn, we’re at Evies making sure the damage is controlled

Ouch, Bakugo felt that one.

BakuBITCH: Ok. Can we meet tomorrow? There’s some things I need to clear up and tell you guys.

Cal: Shouldn’t you be telling Evie this?

BakuBITCH: I’d like to, but... ik she won’t listen to me rn. I need you guys to back me up. Please. I’m begging.

Nina scoffed.

Ni: Pics or it didn’t happen.

Bakugo groaned. He tosses his phone to Kiri. “Uh..?” He says. “They want a fucking picture of me on my knees. Just take the god damn thing” Bakugo says, posing.

Nina and Cal laugh loudly, then cover their mouths as they hear Evie shift. They look back at her, then back to their phones

Ni: fine. Meet us at my office in the morning. You better not be wasting our fucking time Katsuki. We’re only doing this for Evie, because we know how much she genuinely cares for you.

Bakugo’s chest pings. He knew she cared. He was all the more worried he’d fucked everything up and that she no longer would.

~~~~~~~

Morning came and Evie was the first to wake up. She sat up on the couch and scratched her head. Her heart still hurt, signaling that the night before sadly wasn’t just a bad dream. Cal was asleep on the other couch, cuddled away with a pillow. Evie got up quietly and walked into her room. Nina was sound asleep on the bed. Evie laughed at the sight, and walked back to her kitchen to start cooking.

The smell of food woke up her friends, Cal’s head popping up at the smell of bacon and other breakfast items. Evie’s bedroom door swung open with such force it shook the wall. Evie laughed loudly seeing Nina look at the door and smile apologetically. They laugh, making their way to the couch sitting on top of Cal. She laughs loudly. “GET OFF NINA OH MY GOD” Cal says, casually growing Evie’s little plant on the window sill.

They eat, and talk a little before Nina’s phone chimes. Cal glances at them, nodding lightly before picking up her plate and Nina’s dropping the food in the trash and the dishes in the sink. Nina looks over at Evie and pats her head. She looks up, a confused look on her face and her aura changing to a light purple showing her calm state.

“We’re gonna go, okay? We have to grab some new clothes and get some more things. We’ll be back.” They say, hugging her. Cal comes around and joins the group hug. Evie can feel the tears coming on, but she holds it in for a little longer. Her friends grab a bag and walk out of the door. As the door closes, Evie takes in the feeling. She felt... alone. She lays in bed and stays there for the rest of the day, keeping her phone close to make sure she doesn’t miss the call that her friends were coming back.

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Nina and Cal make their way to Nina’s office, talking over what they were going to do. “I’m going to hurt him, Ni. I’ve never seen her this upset before.” Cal says, tightening a hand into a fist. “I know what you mean, Cal, but he has every right to tell his side of the story. I have a way to make sure he won’t lie to us. We’re doing this for Evie. Remember that. Besides, aren’t these plants you brought in my office special in some way?” They ask looking around the room. Cal smile maliciously. “You bet your ass they are. They’re hybrids I’ve been working on. I may or may not use them today. Let’s see how it goes.”

As soon as Cal finishes her sentence, there’s a knock on the door. This is it.

The door opens, and Bakugo steps in, his hands in his pockets. Behind him, Kiri. Bakugo couldn’t even look Evie’s closest friends in the eye, and Cal scoffed. “So, you can talk all that shit, you can tell her all that, but you cant fucking look us in the eye?” Cal says, spewing her own venom.

Bakugo scoffs, about to turn around. “No, Bakugo, you have to. Do it for her.” Kiri says, blocking the door way. “This is a stupid idea, she wont forgive me.” “You don’t know that. Come on bro.” Kiri says, pushing him to the chair in front of Nina’s desk. They walk around, sitting on top of their desk crossing their legs as Cal made her way next to them. Kiri stood to the side of the seat Bakugo sat in. “Alright, Bakugo. Talk.” Nina says, her voice completely serious.

Bakugo looks up at the two. Shit, he didn’t think he could do it. Nina sighed. “Listen. There’s an easy way for you to do this, and a hard way. You either talk on your own..” They say, activating their chains. Cal smirks, activating her plants around the room, thorns spiking through vines. Bakugo stared. Shit, he had no idea they’d be THIS pissed. He stands. “I knew I shouldn’t have come to you guys.” He says as he turns. “Hard way it is.” Cal says, using her vines to grab Bakugo and force him back into the chair. He yelled, feeling the thorns piercing his skin in various places. Bakugo begins to activate his quirk. Nina stops him

“Bakugo.” Nina says, wrapping their chains around him. “Agree to tell the truth, agree to tell me everything.” They say, getting closer to him. “I swear! Yes! Just get Sprouthead’s fucking things OFF OF ME” Bakugo yells, blood dripping down. slowly. “Cal.” Nina says. Cal immediately calls her plants back, watching Bakugo’s labored breaths. She takes seeds out of her pocket and begins to grow small plants to make an ointment for his wounds. “Talk.” Nina says, their chains tightening around Bakugo. Kiri stiffens at the sight. Cal glances over to him. “He’s going to be fine, Kirishima. He wont get hurt anymore than he already is. I did go a little too hard. My bad” She says with a smirk on her face.

“I’ll talk.” Bakugo says before Kirishima can respond. “Everything going on with Evie is my fault. She.. she did nothing wrong.” “Why did you say those things to her?” Nina asks. “Because I was used. And I was afraid she’d do the same. The way he touched her, I just.. I was afraid she’d leave me just like...” Bakugo trails off. “Like who?” Nina asks, her voice getting deeper. “U...Ururaka.” He says, hanging his head low. Cal whipped her head to him. “Ururaka? Ochako? Deku’s-” “Yes! Her. Back in high school, we had all end gone to some island. Deku met this girl and started dating her. Ururaka didn’t like it. She turned into this person who bullied the hell out of him just as much as I did. She and I got closer. And.. I fell in love with her. We started dating and became this duo that couldn't be separated. Deku hated it.... and the second he left the girl he was seeing, she.. left me for him. Like I was nothing. I swore I would never let my guard down ever again, but Evie. That woman, she.. she tore down that wall like it was never there. Evie made me feel things I’ve never felt. I thought I was in love with Ururaka, and maybe at some point I was but... Its Evie. I.. I’m in love with Evie.” He says, tears welling in his eyes.

Cal’s and Nina’s eyes widen. Cal glances at Nina, as if to ask what she thought. “He’s telling the truth..” Nina says before Bakugo continues. “She made me feel different, she made me feel more like a hero than anyone. No one believed in me the way she did. God the sex. The SEX” Bakugo starts, laughing lightly. “Bakugo.” Nina says as Kiri scoffs. “Sorry.. sorry. Look, I.. I know she isn’t Ururaka, I’ve been projecting on her for a long time. I regret it, my stupid rage just... I see red, and I can’t stop myself from speaking. I didn’t mean what I said. I just.. I want to be with her for the rest of my life. She’s strong, hardheaded, an asshole, but she makes me happy, she makes me want to be a better hero, she makes me want to get stronger, and grow with her. I love her more than anything.” He finishes, hanging his head.

Nina releases Bakugo from the chains, watching him as he slumped and fell to his knees, his breathing slowly returning to normal as the effects of the chains wore off. Was he really in that much pain? Or was it just the emotional baggage he’d held within himself for so many years. He didn’t know, but for some reason, he felt better. As if to say it was a weight lifted off his chest. He looked up at Evie’s two friends. They both stared him down, almost not knowing what to say. Kirishima kneels at Bakugo’s side, putting a hand on one of his shoulders.

“You alright bro?” He asks. “Yeah, I’m fine.” Bakugo says, standing slowly. “So, what do we do now?” He asks, crossing his arms. Cal and Nina glance at each other for a few seconds before nodding to one another. “We believe you, and we want to help. Evie cares for you a lot, as much as we hate to admit it.” Cal says, glaring at him. “But, everything you just told us, you have to tell her., There’s no way for us to explain what you’re feeling or anything. I may be able to make you tap deeper into your emotions, but I cannot express that for you.” Nina says, making their way behind their desk and taking a seat. “You understand that, right?” They ask as they cross their legs and lean back.

“I do, but there’s no way she’ll listen to me alone.” Bakugo says, an angry tone coming over his voice. “We know, that’s why we’re coming with you. And Kiri, you’re coming too.” Cal says, smirking at Kiri. He nods, looking over at Bakugo. Evie needed support, yes, but Bakugo needed his support too. Then, they hear a knock at the door.

“Heyooo, I’m here for the cult st- oh. Hey, uh.. babe what’s going on here?” Denki says as he enters the room. He realizes everyone’s eyes are on him, and an award silence fills the air. “Oop- uh.. maybe this is a bad time I should-” “Nah babe, actually, you’re here at a perfect time.” Cal says, beaming happiness as her boyfriend makes his way to her. He kisses her cheek, shocking her lightly. “What’s going on?” He whispers. “Bakugo is telling us about Uwuraka.” Cal says, disgust in her voice. “Oh, yeah. That was a whole thing. I forgot.” Denki says, scratching the back of his head with an “oops” look on his face.

“Wait! You knew??” Cal asks, looking up slightly at him. “Huh? Yeah, our entire class knew. We were all in the same class remember?” Denki says. “And whyyyy the hell didn’t you tell us?” She says, her voice lightly annoyed. “Yoooou never asked babe. I can answer questions that were never asked.” He says, booping her nose causing Cal to blush and smack his hand away.

“Anyway” Nina says, rolling their eyes. “I can see you genuinly care about her, Bakugo. But it’s not going to take just an apology to fix this, you’ll have to earn back her trust. It’s not like she doesn’t care about you or that she doesn’t really love you, but your words really fucked her in the head. We’ve never seen her so sad or quiet, and in the time that I’ve known her her aura has never turned that cold of a blue before, it was almost as though she was so sad to the point where she was almost numb. Words can literally kill people, Bakugo.” Nina says, a serious expression on her face as her eyes piereced into Bakugo’s. “We wanted to fucking kill you for hurting her so bad.” Cal says, looking over to him.

“Wait.. they broke up?” Denki says, raising an eyebrow. “God damn it.” Cal says, putting a hand over her face. “I love you babe but sometimes you cannot read a room to save your life.” She says, patting his chest lightly. “Come on, I’ll fill you in on the way.” She says, gathering her bags and heading for the door as Nina gets up and does the same. “Where the hell are we you going?” Bakugo asks, watching them head to the door. “We’re gonna help your dumbass win her back.” Nina says, making their way to the door and walking out. Bakugo sighs and follows with Kiri next to him.

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Evie’s day had gone by so slowly, and she was beginning to miss her friends. She’d cleaned the dorm, organized some things, doodled in her sketchbook and taken a shower. She put on a different sweater and let her hair down to air dry and poof in the purple curly mess she’d been trying to tame for about an hour. Finally, the products she’d used were starting to work, and her curls became more controlled. She looked in the mirror and sighed. She still looked a mess. She pressed a hand on the mirror and frowned, staring into her own reflection with her thoughts overtaking her as her aura turned darker and darker blue. Depression, that’s a new color. She thought as she let her hand fall from the mirror. She made her way back into the main room and sat on her couch, putting in her earbuds and letting the music play as she let her thoughts flow.

Why did it have to be like this? If only she’d seen the signs earlier, if only she’d seen what people were telling her about Bakugo. About how he was a hot head that never got control of his emotions. Deku and Ururaka had both sat by her in a class and relentlessly bugged and pushed her not to date him, which only made her want to prove them wrong anymore. The way Katsuki was to her was different than anything anyone had told her. She knew a different side of him no one knew. They didn’t understand how well he treated her, how much love she though he had for her. Her thoughts were interrupted by a replay of the night before.

Evie sunk deeper into the couch, covering herself with the blanket she’d left for Cal when she was asleep. Just as the tears begin to form once again, her music fades, and before a new song can start, she hears knocking. Huh? She checks her phone. No messages. She takes out an earbud and hears the knocking a little louder. Oh, someone is here. She thinks to herself as she gets up. She unplugs her headphones and walks to the door to answer. As shes walking, she checks her phone. No new messages, no warning from her friends that they were coming back. How weird.

She opens the door to find her two friends, looking at her in the most serious looks she’d seen in a while. She then glances and sees Denki, smiling nervously at her. “Oh.. hey guys? What are you-” “We need to talk.” Nina says, walking in with Cal and Denki following. Evie follows after Denki, pushing the door to close. “Oh, alright.” She says as she takes a seat back on the couch, her back to the door. “What’s going on?” Evie asks, slight fear in her voice. “Well, uh. WE aren’t going to be the ones talking.” Cal says, glancing behind Evie. “He will.” She says as Evie turns her attention behind her. To her surprise, she hadn’t noticed the door didn’t shut all the way, nor did she notice the two other people walking into her dorm. First, she saw Kiri, who was looking at her, smiling apologetically. “I’m sorry for barging in like this, but he wouldn’t come without me.” Kiri says before moving out of the way revealing the second person to walk in.

Behind him, Bakugo stands looking towards the ground, slowly looking up meeting Evie’s eyes. Evie feels a breath caught in her throat as she stands. Her heart about to burst out of her chest and a load of emotions coming to her at once, making her aura around her look like a fucking rave. The sad look on Bakugo’s face made her heart ping. He’s sad? HIM? SAD? When HE’S the one who said those things? Evie’s blood boiled, and her aura went from a flash of different colors to a bright red. Oh shit, now SHE’S mad. “What the hell..” She turns to her friends. “Ni, Cal, what the hell is this? What the fuck is going on?” She asks, her eyes shifting between the two.

“Listen Evie, let him explain-” Nina starts, then cuts herself off as she realizes Evie’s aura is no longer visable. They glance down at her hands, she’s going to attack. “Evie, wait.” Nina says, putting their hands up in defense. “Why the hell is he here, Nina? Cal?”Evie says, her anger getting worse. “Evie, calm down. We talked to him and-” “You TALKED to him? Behind my back? After EVERYTHING he’s said to me?” Evie says, cutting Cal off. They both glance at each other. Fuck, they knew this would happen.

“Babe, let me explain-” “YOU. Do NOT call me babe right now. YOU HURT ME” Evie says, turning at the sound of Bakugo’s voice. She walks up to him, her quirk ready to strike. They stare at each other for a few seconds, then Bakugo puts his hands up. “Do your worst. Take it out on me the way I have been for months Evie. Do what you have to, but please. I need you to listen to me.” Bakugo says, taking a step towards her.

Evie flinched at the words, her quirk lightening a bit. She ran to him and punched his chest without using her quirk. She banged on his chest while Bakugo took it, watching as her quirk returned around her, lightening with every punch. Then, he flinched as he heard her sob. He hadn’t noticed she’d stopped, her hands in fists on his chest with her head on top of them. “How could you. How could you say those things to me, Katsuki?” She pleaded into his chest. Bakugo’s expression lightened up as he wrapped his arm around her.

Cal and Nina signed in relief. Evie pulled away, and Bakugo looks down at her. “Alright, fine. Talk.” She says, making her way to the couch. Kiri pulls out his phone and sends a texts, and Denki’s phone goes off. He looks at his phone, and taps Cal. “Babe, uh. we should give them some privacy,” He whispers loud enough for Nina to hear. They agree and walk out. “We’ll be outside, if you need anything holler, okay?” Nina says as they walk out.

As soon as the door closes, Evie and Bakugo sit in silence for a second. Bakugo takes a deep breath and holds her hands. “Evie, I am truly sorry about what happened last night. I didn’t mean anything I said. I was projecting and... I just want you to understand why I am the way I am.” He says, his voice shaking but his eyes never leaving hers. Evie was stunned, she’s never seen him so... soft before. She simply nodded as he spilled everything. The second he mentioned Ururaka, she stopped him.

“Ururaka? Ochako?” She asks. He nods. Evie’s quirk flashed again as she yelled for Nina and Cal. The door opened and they walked back in. “What happened?” Cal asked, glaring at Bakugo. “Ururaka?” Evie says, raising an eyebrow. Cal smiles. “We know, just wait till we see her in the streets.” she says, cracking her knuckles while Nina smiles.

Bakugo laughs lightly. “I’d love to watch.” He says, tugging Evie’s hand to regain her attention. She smiled lightly, nodding at him to continue. As he finished his explanation, he sighs. Evie looks down, processing everything before looking back at him. “Listen. Katsuki.. I.. it’s gonna take a while for me to be able to trust you again. You understand that right?” “Of course I do. And I will do everything in my power to earn that trust again” He says before caressing her cheek. She leans into his touch before feeling herself being pulled closer to Katsuki. They kissed, melting into each other.

#breakup #bakugo x oc #aizawa x oc #kaminari x oc

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littlebabycrybtch · 3 years

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ok ik bitches are still going to complain but i gotta rant to keep my shit together;;; ngl after being stuck co-raising two babies now i really feel genuinely Disgusted by unnecessary parent critique. like it actually makes me feel so viscerally upset and depressed when i remember nobody gets this or cares to and probably just wants to call out what im doing wrong, instead of lend me a hand to do it better. man im not treading lightly here the ‘no excuses’ mentality is literally Inhumane to parents and dehumanizes them as these superhumans, they arent, they are people trying to take care of themselves Plus One. there Are ‘excuses’ for not being perfect. just bc every child deserves perfect doesnt mean it can be given and that fucking SUCKS but that is one of the only times im comfortable saying; ‘thats just life’. you cant magically make life better for kids the way you think, you’re not a protector, you’re their Rock to teach them How to DEAL with what life brings, that means you’re allowed to struggle with it too. childcare is like this cosmic design to work you physically and mentally to the brink, fucking forget the normalization of how many people you think you’ve seen raise kids and done fine, it is harder than you can even fathom. they probably did not do fine behind closed doors. the parents with the best behaved and most obedient kids probably did harmful things to make them that way that will eventually come back to them, the parents with the happiest most well adjusted kids probably had the money to provide the extra care for that. there are ‘excuses’. idc if it fucking annoys you or w/e, i dont like being the bitch that says stuff nobody wants to hear, but you truly deeply cannot 100% understand unless you are raising kids, i dont say that to hurt your feewings or exclude you, i used to think that way, i say it bc when you see me passed out on the couch while my nephew gets into something dangerous, its because i got one hour of sleep that night while he kicked me in our bed for 4 hours. he cant help not knowing how that affects both of us, but i cant help being affected by it just cuz im supposed to be ~the big strong adult~, bc i am not a fucking xman. i CANT pretend it all away. while im sitting there napping im also waiting for my mental health meds to start working. im also dizzy from not eating. it sucks that he gets into shit sometimes. hes still gonna get into shit sometimes, and i can do my best, but if i sit here worrying that karens are gonna get pissed abt that and work myself even harder im gonna straight up explode. who does that help. who does me falling apart help. come babysit my kid for free if you wanna help me bitch!

parents are doing twice the work of a normal person while also teaching one of these people theyre caring for, how to BE a person. i used to be SO pro judging parents and im literally nauseated by the judgments now. “i cant believe this parent looked away and their kid got hurt, i cant beleive they just leave them there with a tablet or a snack or a toy while they nap, i cant believe they let them do that, i cant believe--” btich you literally have no idea how lucky you are that they are not both already dead. you are so lucky tehy are both alive and the parent isnt hospitalized for mental health or even physical exhaustion, or addicted to a stimulant (which includes caffeine), or using smth to relax like weed or alcohol (hello wine mom culture), or the kid isnt traumatized from watching their parent have repeatd breakdowns. that is literally better than most situations already. no matter how impossibly perfect the family could be in your mind, kids fuckin get hurt and they make mistakes and the PARENTS make mistakes bc theyre PEOPLE and yall this blows my mind that ppl dont realize this but,,,,, Little kids??? THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO THEIR PARENTS bc they essentially CANT..... for like YEARS there is a period they WILL NOT LISTEN TO YOU at ALL while they have the full autonomy and smarts and strength to cause horrible consequential problems, they are capable of learning how to circumnavigate your ‘babyproofing’ in new ways every single day, but they have ZEROOOOO MORALS OR CAUSE AND EFFECT SKILLS to understand RIGHT FROM WRONG, NO MATTER HOW OFTEN YOU TELL THEM!!!!! IT WONT CHANGE, ITS LITERALLY A PHYSICAL BRAIN THING THAT THEY CANT LEARN WHAT ‘NO’ MEANS FOR A WHILE YET!!! THIS CAN LAST FROM AGE 1 TO 4, SOMETIMES LONGER! THATS GENUINELY INSANITY INDUCING FOR THE ADULT WHOS KEEPING THEM IN LINE HUNDREDS OF TIMES A DAY, KNOWING ITS AMOUNTING TO ALMOST NOTHING UNTIL YEARS LATER!!!! IT DOESNT HELP WHEN PPL JUDGE YOU AND DONT BELEIVE YOU AND THINK YOU JUST ARENT ~TRYING HARD ENOUGH~! holy FUCK dude, idc if you wanna judge, im losing it bc i am being forced to keep my cool while a child whos pinching me and genuinely HURTING and BRUISING me laughs in my face bc he truly DOES NOT KNOW this, and there is NO WAY for me to convey it to make him stop at the moment!!!! thats maddening!!!

listen to me, neither of you dying or experiencing lasting damage is literally the goal every day, not just ‘raising them’, but that you both survive to the end of it. im appalled by how different the lifestyle is and the way ppl just... dont know that/REJECT that information so they get to judge. ofc tiny vulnerable innocent kids deserve the best, parents cannot always provide that if they want to Survive, bc they also deserve , basic understanding and humanity. you call out abuse all you want, theres a difference between the 'lesser of two evils’ choices, or even the genuinely Bad choices you can Accidentally make when at your wits end (which you should immediately correct anyways), and ever causing intentional physical or mental harm to the child, but the secodn yall start nitpicking or blatantly being ignorant to a struggle just so you get your blame validation in i literally cannot AFFORD to give you the time of day, im busy running on minutes of sleep, so if you think i have enough free time to entertain ur whining that my kids got a messy face and has been on his tablet in a highchair for an hour or w/e, idc, im using that time to shower for the first time in 2 weeks bc nobody else is gonna be there for me to let me do that shit :) so frankly put your money where your mouth is and help struggling parents whenever you can. i cant make shit better out of thin air.

“oh, but i dont have the money to help you.” YOU THINK IM AFFORDING CHILDCARE?? YOU CAN COME OVER AND HELP DIRECTLY WHILE I DO CHORES. “oh, but i dont wanna babysit for my friends, i dont like kids.” OH REALLY?????? OH YOU DONT LIKE KIDS??? BC THEYRE DIFFICULT MAYBE ??? SO MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT JUDGE WHEN ITS HARD THEN????? LIKE YOU RLY THINK JUST ‘LIKING THEM’ SUDDENLY MAKES IT EASY FOR ME?? YOU THINK ME FINDING MY NEPHEW CUTE AND LOVING HIM AND HIS LAUGHTER GIVES ME FUCKING SUPERMAN POWERS TO DEAL WITH THIS???????? “but You chose to have kids” rt in my case i literally didnt and would be homeless if not offering to help care for them but HEY COOL CONCEPT PRO CHOICE KINDA FUCKIN INCLUDES WHEN PEOPLE ‘CHOOSE’ TO HAVE KIDS EVEN WHEN THEY STRUGGLE AFTER, TOO LATE TO FUCKIN COMPLAIN NOW, JUST HELP A BITCH OUT. LIke... bro BRO b R O im losing it stop giving parents the inspiration porn treatment while disrespecting the actual struggles they go thru any time the child actually suffers bc they are unable to shield them from their struggle. can i be real, life literally will not go without struggle. you cannot raise them to have a life better than what the world is, you can do your best but you really cant MAKE it fair. once again this is not a ‘raise the perfect child’ contest you are just . trying to raise them at all. its messy. every single day you will have successes and failures, and you’ll be running on empty, and you’ll be doing that just to make it through to do it again tomorrow, while it slowly (AGONIZINGLY SLOWLY) gets easier each day. im tired of pretending lmao i dont wanna hear you bitches judge parents anymore, i dont wanna hear the stupid ass ‘im allowed to’ shit anymore dude!!!!! for gods sake i can agree with you when some shits just plain wrong but ill never apologize for standing up for myself or other struggling parents even if it makes you uncomfy, i can care about Both the child and the parent at the same time, ig i wont ask you why you seemingly cant. 😶 ESPECIALLY when things like classism and ableism tie in so often with these situations. not to mention racism like im white but hoooo if i hear one more story about a black parents ‘negligence’ in efforts of just trying to help their family, like leaving their kids somewhere during a job interview or w/e, vs the white parents that LET THEIR 10 YR OLDS WANDER AROUND MALLS BY THEMSELVES... im gonna scream. im gonna fuckin scream. its so unfair. fuck off, stop the spiteful ignorance, change this shitty hateful culture.

tldr; you Can care about kids while respecting parents, even when they arent perfect. you can advocate for children while also advocating for parents, and in fact, you should fucking try.

#vent/ //#might delete later ///#ok to rb but. i swear to god if this pops off and ppl whine...... literally L I T ER A LL Y come take care of my kids #NO BETTER YET BC ITS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE!! FOR EVERY COMPLAINT. 5 DOLLARS IN MY PAYPAL #SO I CAN AFFORD DAYCARE. LITERALLY IF OYU CLAIM ANY STUPID SHIT BC I ADMIT ITS HARD TO CARE FOR SMALL KIDS #U HAVE NO EXCUSE TO NOT PUT THAT FAKE BITCHY JUDGY CONCERN INTO ACTUAL RESULTS. THANKX #anyways on a real note again this is a vent moreso than a disc horse post thats meant to be shared around so #its not perfect its just. my feelings over the past couple years dealing w this man #really fuckin tired of it i really spent so many years 100% on the side of 'i have critical understanding i get to judge'#no i didnt. no you dont. its not comprehensible till you're pushed to your own limit with childcare. i hate being that btich #cuz nobody wants to hear it. but its the truth swallow it #long post //

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noiseartists · 4 years

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Shoegaze, Dreampop And Nugaze: The Facebook Group

Shoegaze, Dreampop And Nugaze is a Facebook group created by Kevin Cleary. The group is arguably the biggest one on Facebook counting over 40 000 members. Noise Artists meets the moderators.

How long have you been and admin for this group?

Mark: I joined the group back in January 2019 and joined the admin team shortly after as a mod so i'm the new kid on the block.

Darren: For several years now. Too long to remember when it all started.

Kev: I created Shoegaze, Dreampop & Nugaze in 2009. My reasoning at the time was to find bands that kept the shoegaze candle burning (damn that sounds cheesy, lol). Acts such as Airiel, Ides of space, Resplandor, the Meeting Places, Astrobrite, Mystery Machine, etc.

Nico: I can’t remember, I got asked maybe a year and a half ago? What are the perks of being an admin?

Mark: Meeting all the cool bands and fans.

Darren: To be able give a platform for new bands to be heard and discovered by a new audience.

Kev: Over the years I've become a bit introverted, don't belong to a band and not hitting shows the way I once did (Dad life). The biggest perk is the music that I would never have discovered otherwise and the friendships that have developed. No gaze orgies, groupies, monetary benefit, drugs, etc. Maybe things would have been different if this was 1993, lol.

Nico: I guess, it’s like running a fanzine back in the days? it’s a lot of work for very little reward but you do it cause you like music more than anything else

What are the drawbacks of being and admin?

Mark: Dealing with disputes and arguments on the group. Why cant we all just get along people?

Darren: Having to moderate the troublemakers and haters.

Kev: "Why did you delete my Radiohead post?!Facist!!!!" It hasn't been all that easy and trust me, the page burns me out at times. Pet peeves include, getting tagged in a post bashing the group, reading a post from a FB friend, "sorry Kev, but the page....." A lot goes into running a page with over 45,000 members! Thank the Gods for the current (Darren, Mark & Nico) and past mods.

At some point we got in a war with WHIRR, which apparently wasn't the band but someone moderating their social media.

Oh shit, the whole Pranav Agrawal thing!

Where to even start with that one?! Pranav was a professional English swimmer, living in India with his boyfriend Matt. Yes. He was one of seven of us managing the page.

We were a tight bunch, often chatting several days a week. He was an integral part of the page, with great ideas and input. Things got weird when one of the mods forwarded a google image of a professional swimmer Daniel Goodfellow. Pranav had created this entire persona based on the swimmer! We called him out and poof, just like that, he was gone! Keyer Soze style.

Nico: Oh definitely the people with zero social skills and a lot of issues who are desperate for attention but know only how to seek it in negative ways. They clearly need to be educated but you can’t do that publicly because they want the attention so the only way to deal with them is to not give them any, delete, block, gone. Is there any perks? groupies? drugs? free music? 😉

Mark: The only "perk" i've had so far is some boudouir snaps of my fellow mod Nico Beatastic! I still havent slept since seeing them.

Darren: I occasionally get free music. People often reach out to me directly to share music that they feel I'll enjoy.

Kev: Ehhhh, not so much for a 46 year old married dad like me. The free music that group members send me! Ooooo, I listen to it all and totally appreciate it. Another perk is hearing or reading about the page in a positive light. Nico: the true perk is having Mark to send my boudoir pics to, I know he truly appreciates them.

What do you like best about the group?

Mark: The community spirit. The shoegaze community is incredibly tightknit and supportive.

Darren: Always being turned on to new music and forgotten treasures.

Kev: The music I've discovered and friendships that I've made over the last decade. Wow, talk about generic answers! There was a time when Darren, Rayanne, Greg, Romini, Liam, Pranav and I would drunk message for hours most every Friday/ Saturday. Mind you, we were all in different time zones. Those were fun times!

Nico: when shoegaze started it was called the scene that celebrates itself, people were supportive of each other, I think that’s mostly the case, also it’s never been about who’s got the biggest one (it’s Mark) , there’s no macho bullshit.

What do you like the least about the group?

Mark: The posts that begin, Its not shoegaze but.... or What is the most shoegaze <insert inanimate object here>. Wasn't funny the first time, not funny now. Stop it

Darren: Just because some music has elements of shoegaze or exists on its peripheral, doesn't make it shoegaze. It's hard to draw the line sometimes and that comes from someone who's been listening to this music for 30 years, let alone for people who are new to shoegaze.

Kev: Damn, if I let the cat out of the bag it will invite in hundreds of trolls! Like the teenage British invasion of 2015. Darren is the only mod who was around at that time and it SUCKED!! So my lips are sealed on this one.

Nico: the little wars, the negativity, the group is meant to post music you like, no diss music you hate. If you don’t have anything nice to say , don’t say anything.

If you could have anyone join the group, who would it be and why?

Mark: Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine for he is our lord and father. All hail the Kev!

Darren: Erik Blood. He's my favorite producer and has had a hand in recording/producing/creating/performing some of the best music from the Pacific Northwest for years.

Kev: We've had quite a few genre icons come and go throughout the years. Rachel and Emma were both members until they were called out in numerous posts. I was blown away when the lead of my favorite band joined several years ago!

Nico: I’d have my fave musician ever, Billy Corgan

Who should be an admin?

Mark: Elliott Frazer from Ringo Deathstarr as i inadvertantly removed him from the group. That would let him get his revenge on me.lol

Darren: Someone who loves music, music debate, and has an insatiable hunger to hear and discover new music.

Kev: Easy; Darren, Mark and Nico! Now i'm going to try and name everyone who has helped moderate the page over the years. Rayanne Die, Vic Winters, Dean Bromley, Steven Webb, Romini, Mike Contreras, Liam Doyle, Greg Wilson, Krissy Vanderwoude.

Nico: Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, Nick Cave, Henry Rollins. You can’t mess with them and they’re good with words. I’d love to have The Rock turn his boot sideways and stick it someone’s arse when they make a homophobic/racist/rude/mean comment.

Who should never be an admin?

Mark: Anyone who posts Its not shoegaze but.... or Whats the most shoegaze <insert inamimate object here>.

Darren: Someone who is thin-skinned.

Kev: Anyone not ready to put time into building and maintaining. I'm grateful that we have a great team running the page now and for all of the past admins.

Nico: I agree with Darren.

What is the sweetest thing you've seen happen in the group?

Mark: I seen a member post that they had just had a bad break up with their partner and was looking for tunes to cheer them up. The comments below that post were 100% supportive and full of some of the best music. It was testament to the family vibe we are proud to have on the group.

Darren: I've seen small unknown bands and musicians grow into being leaders of the scene that celebrates itself.

Kev: Krissy Vanderwoude and Andy Jossi collaborating! Two phenomenal musicians. I also love seeing obscure, unknown bands grow in part due to this group.

Nico: I think each time anyone posts a band they like, it’s an act of communion with the world , we share what we want so we can improve other people’s lives and that my friends is what life should be about.

Have any couple met on the group and got married and have children?

Mark: i have no idea. One of the other more learned admin may know.

Darren: If so, send me pics of them making babies.

Kev: I haven't received any wedding invites. Not to say that it hasn't happened. A group member did create a Shoegaze romantic connection group.

Nico: Mark and I are expecting ;)

What is the best band you've discovered through the group?

Mark: That’s not fair. There’s too many AMAZING bands ive discovered via this group. If you absolutely forced me to name one id have to go with The Stargazer Lilies. Occabot blew my tiny mind.

Darren: Flyying Colours

Kev: Oooooh, a "best band?" As far as my personal favorite, I'd have to say Echodrone. Dean "Shoegaze" Bromley, one of the original page members/ past admin, turned me onto them. There are SO many greats that I never would have heard of if it wasn't for SGDPNG!!!

Nico: that Russian shoegaze scene is pretty cool. Maybe Pinkshinyultrablast ?

How did it get so big? (the group Mark, the group!

Mark: We have an open door policy and we get a lot of people inviting friends. We also have a lot of members who are in bands. It means they can interact with our members directly which is a huge thing for fans.

Darren: People love shoegaze and want a place to share and learn more about it.

Kev: Be careful of what you wish for!! There were waves of growth starting with the MBV/ Slowdive/ Lush reunions. Then there was the whole "bro gaze" movement, not the happiest of times on the page.

Nico: The big 3 coming back , the old school gazers have older kids now so more time on their hands and the brogazers. I went to see Slowdive a couple of years ago and the audience was clearly 14 to 60, lots of kids. The Rachel look is quite iconic, it appeals to a lot of young women.

Have you ever thought of making tshirts? mugs? merch?

Mark: I’d love that. We did that in another group i admin. See what King Kev Cleary has to say. He's the boss!

Darren: I would love if one day we could release music by some of the bands that we discover in the group.

Kev: A few years back I created a website with the intent of doing just that. Never materialized. I remember what Greg Wilson, one time page mod, went through getting DKFM to where it is today. Don't have that sort of time to dedicate.

Nico: it’s all very doable, especially a compilation series, that would be fairly easy.

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