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"pansexual is such a terfy term" "bisexuals are trans-exclusive" actually the pansexuals and bisexuals are all making out crazy style rn. And good god so many of them are nonbinary and t4t.
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bicultureblog · 9 months
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bi culture is being afraid to date someone of the opposite sex because people might think you’re “finally” straight
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bisexual dorothea anon again I'll be real half this fandom has an inherent hatred for anything perceived to be heterosexual because its like basic or cishets are cringe or whatever and end up put queerness on a pedestal so much they just end up refusing to accept that you can be attracted to the opposite sex and still be just as queer as everyone else
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just-antithings · 1 year
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I'm in a fandom where the male main character has a female love interest and two close male friends and I am so tired of people shoving the love interest aside to make room to ship him with his friend. It's not that I don't like the best friend ship, it's can be a really appealing ship, it's just that people are constantly hating on the canon love interest instead of just like, leaving her out. Like, come on, she's not any more "poorly written" than anyone else in the story, if she was male there would already be like 5000 angsty fics about her backstory, you're (general you) just being misogynistic.
Yeah unfortunately a lot of queer people in fandom seem Obsessed with objectifying same sex relationships and making characters "actually gay" (only interested in the same sex VS pan/bisexual)
Like some of us are mspec and like m/f couples actually, it's not "lesser" to ship an m/f pairing over a m/m or f/f one.
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Spoilers for helluva boss
Ok the new episode addressing familial biphobia? I loved it. Like not that it had to be addressed (poor Moxie), but that it was addressed. It would have been easy to just show Crimson being a homophobe about Moxie (and Chaz) but the extra mile of 'my son is gay because he likes men and any woman he is with is just a cover.' is a great addition. I think most bisexual (or anyone attracted to multiple genders really) have heard that bs from family. 'you can't sit on the fence' 'you can't play for both teams' or 'you're married/dating a man/woman, so you're really just gay/striaght'.
It goes to show that biphobia and homophobia are similar, even intertwined at places, but not the same thing.
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queerasf4ck · 11 months
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Unpopular opinion but performative statements like "bi people are great" don’t actually do anything to show your support for bi people unless you’re also actively tackling biphobia in your own communities.
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clownfire · 2 years
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Spoilers for episode 14 of Prime Defenders, below cut!
I’m totally normal about William turning intangible as he goes into shock, as if he’s subconsciously withdrawing so that he doesn’t have to feel his body anymore, so that he can’t be hurt again. I’m totally normal- 
These last three episodes went for my fucking jugular dude, but I am really excited about the direction things are going! 
FINALLY MORE DAKOTA BACKSTORY YES!! I’d love to learn more about the Doctor and why Dakota specifically was chosen for this. It seems like the -izlys have something cool all written out that they haven’t gotten the chance to bring up before, and trying that together with the Will angst(s) going on was I good segway into that.  It was nice to see the emotional intelligence that Dakota and Vyncent displayed as they tried to console Will, they both went about it in slightly different ways and I’m glad it wasn’t one contributing more than the other.
The statue talk was really interesting, talking about the idolisation of heroes, what makes a ‘hero’ and what are good motivations for being one. Mini-theory time, but I do think the PD are going to go down a vigilante path. Whilst Dakota is a lot more trusting of the hero system than Vyncent or Will, in season one he clearly showed frustration in how restricted their actions were: times where he ignored the warnings and instruction of pro-heroes because he so strongly believes in his moral obligation to save as many people as possible. I could go on way longer about this, but I’ll make that it’s own post.
Now for the GhostKnife confirmation, my first thought was ‘holy shit they’re actually doing this for real’. I have the same sentiment as a lot of people on here who’ve discussed this so far, but having ghostknife be slow-burn leading to an eventual end-game works better for this series (and honestly could tie into that theme Charlie mentioned he wanted to cover in the Just Rolled, but put a pin in that). Will’s got a stupid amount on his plate rn, so I think he’s going to compartmentalise his crush and push it aside for now (but that is going to be difficult with Cantrip around, hoo boy), as it appeared to him that his crush wasn’t reciprocated. The whole scene was the perfect way to canonise and incorporate the relationship into the story proper. Reiterating the status-quo: Awkward tension, Will’s perceived romantic rivalry with Cantrip, and everyone but Vyncent being fully aware of what’s going on. Dakota sending Vyncent out specifically to console Will, recalling the 10 months they spent together. A big dramatic gesture that pushes William to open up and allow himself to be physically and emotionally vulnerable again, mirroring the scene in season one where Vyncent fell in the gymnasium and Will tried to catch his fall. William reaches out to make the first move, and his hesitation and shame stop him from committing to the kiss. Progress has been made - William made a genuine attempt to make the first move - but this is totally in character for the both of them for where they are emotionally right now. However, while Vyncent is currently unaware of Will’s feelings for him, this scene makes it evident how completely he trusts Will, and how deeply he values him and their relationship. 
Getting back to that pin. In the Just Rolled for this episode, Charlie mentioned a theme that he wanted to explore with William that they haven’t covered in the show before. My best guess would be shame (or fear in general); William is ashamed of his powers, and his use of them is very limited, especially after Ashe’s disappearance. He doesn’t understand why and is abhorred by how his powers affect his body and make him different from other people. This shame could be extended to his crush on Vyncent. I don’t know if the crew would be willinging to discuss homophobia, biphobia, and potentially religious trauma in their silly-goofy superhero podcast to any extent, but William could be afraid of ‘ruining his friendship’ with Vyncent, or feel - with Will’s self-esteem as low as it is - that he doesn’t deserve Vyncent.
Anyways, that was an essay and a half. A lot happened.
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reign-life · 10 months
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People looking at my blog are getting too comfy. So here's two fun facts
1. Anti mspec-lesbian rhetoric mimics both gold star lesbian rhetoric and transphobic rhetoric
2. Bisexual(I don't think the other mspec terms existed and/or were as common at the time) sapphics used to be considered lesbians as well. Until the political lesbianism/feminist/lesbian separatism. The people behind these movements were generally biphobic and transphobic(and these types of people didn't like butches either)
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I hope twitter people coming to tumblr know their biphobia is not welcome here
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impscar · 2 years
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bisexuality, pansexuality, and omnisexuality
I used to do a lot of research on the topic when I was still exploring orientations, but bisexuality, pansexuality, and omnisexuality are all different things with different definitions.
pansexuality: being attracted to all genders without preference.
bisexuality: being attracted to two or more genders.
omnisexuality: being attracted to all genders with preference
bisexuality is an orientation on it's own, but it's also an umbrella/parent term. pansexual and omnisexual people are technically bisexual, since they're attracted to two or more genders. pansexuality is NOT biphobic. saying that is inherently panphobic AND biphobic, seeing the previous point of pansexual people falling under the bisexual category. I see a lot of people saying this (especially uneducated people or little kids) and it pisses me off. we as a community should not be warring against each other, but instead helping to support each other. i used the label of panromantic before realizing I was never into girls and all my love goes out to bi, pan, and omni people 💖
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androgynousblackbox · 2 years
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Things that bother me as a pan/bi person from the bi community (and everyone in general)
The titite is somewhat clickbait because many of the things I am going to talk about are stuff I have seen from people all over the rainbow and even outside of it. It’s not especial of the bi community at all. But I know, I just know many of you out there are never going to read about pansexuality or a pan’s person experience or, god forbid, panphobia unless somehow I also make it about you or make it seem like I am going to join the ever so useless and worthless “bi vs pan” discourse.   Also, I am pissed because I keep seeing videos from bi people making videos talking about the entire mpsec experience, getting shit incredibly wrong and just fucking never including a pan perspective or really any input at all from anyone who isn’t bi already. So consider this also my opportunity to vent. If you never did any of the things I am about to talk about, congratulations, this is not about you. If you did any of them and never thought before about how it could ever be bad, it’s okay, now you know. If you think me, as a bi person, cannot talk about my own community about the issues I see inside of it, goodbye. Let’s start, shall we. 1. Always bringing out “the history of how pan is problematic actually” whenever anyone as much mention the existence of pan Let’s put it this way: bisexuality wasn’t always understood and defined by everyone as it was on the manifesto (published by the renamed Bi and Pan Network, funny how everybody forgets that!). If someone says it was, they are lying. There was a moment in which bisexual women and lesbian were one and the same. There was a moment in which bisexual was a biological term to talk about intersexual. Queer is literally a slur that we decided with time to take as our badge of honor. Literally every single word that queer people use for themselves had complicated histories and, yes, problematic ones too. But we don’t bring out how bisexual “is actually about being intersex” whenever bi people talk, we generally understand that telling to an openly queer person “you can’t use queer, that is a slur!” is on bad taste. And yet, some people feel way too fucking comfortable weaponizing their own understand of history whenever it comes to pan people and then making it our own problem, as if we have to respond to memes from the fucking 2012 about “hearts, not parts” in order to defend our right to exist as pan people now. I would never even think making every single bi person responsible for every single shitty thing a bi person has ever done, so why is okay to do it for pan people as a whole? Why I keep seeing long comments talking about “the history” whenever someone just talks about being pan at all and nobody calls that out as the shitty move that it is? By the way, this has another face: when a pan person talks about having a bad experience with the bi community, a bi person or literally anyone else, for being pan specifically, and some person comes bludging their way through to talk in direct response about how they have met pan people wanting to force to identify as pan when they are bi, as if they expect this pan to shut up about their own issues in order to respond for those fucking randos that have nothing to do with them or what they were talking about..This is rude, just in principle, but also so fucking entitled? To expect and demand attention for your complaints AS A RESPONSE to someone talking about their own grievances? Imagine that you literally just hurt yourself impacting your toe against the table, said “oh” and someone comes crashing the window to tell you that OH BUT YOUR TWICE REMOVE COUSIN THOUGH, he told me I am ugly, therefore you have nothing to complain about! It sounds absurd because it is absurd, and yet, so fucking normal to undermine pan people’s experiences like this. 2. They have the history all fucking wrong
On one hand you have the people who will actually use the manifesto (again, published by the Bi and Pan Network, in case you forgot) to try to define pansexuality out of existence. “See, see! Bi ALREADY means attraction to all gender so we don’t need pansexuality and therefore pansexual people are actually biphobes for even implying that our identity is not enough for everyone!” That exact same manifesto you all use as your hammer of truth literally tells you to fuck off. “Many of us choose not to label ourselves anything at all, and find the word 'bisexual' to be inadequate and too limiting. Do not assume that the opinions expressed are shared by all bisexuals, by those actively involved in the Bisexual Movement, by the ATM staff, or the BABN Board of Directors.”
The people who literally wrote the manifesto are supportive of people identifying as pan, so what the actual fuck do you think you are doing pretending as if our mere existence is somehow erasure? Those exact same people would think you are a fool. Just imagine how you look right now, not that different. On the other hand, you have supposed “experts” who will tell you, with absolutely confidence, that pansexuality originated in Tumblr, that was born out of MOGAI (which shows too how they DO NOT understand MOGAI either because the point of it was to include everyone, even bi, so technically speaking bi, lesbian and gay are also under the umbrella of MOGAI) because they screenshotted one image of the flag coming from a tumblr user. This is very fucking easy to debunk information. If you do want to research the history of pan, it’s not difficult to find at all. But these “experts” couldn’t be fucking bothered to do a single google research because, what, who cares, right? The cherry on top is when, from these misinformation, then they come out with even more fucking wild assumptions that literally anyone can debunk: things like how “nobody does pan activist offline” or how pan people do not have an actual history or activist history at all. Those are all fucking lies that panphobes just keep repeating without ever recieving the backlash that they deserve. 3. Every talk about panphobia has to be a talk about biphobia actually, panphobia doesn’t exist I can’t tell you the amount of times I have seen pan people talking any particular way they have been targetted for being pan (erasure, discrimination, you name it), only for the response to be “oh but I have lived the same and I am bi, therefore it’s actually biphobia and we should be talking about that first!” Like how fucking ass way is that to act.  An extension of this is on other things, like how people will say “I just define pan as bi with another name/it’s a microlabel for bi” and then are SHOCKED that you have the goal to call that panphobia. How can it panphobic if they recognize people can identify as pan? Shouldn’t be enough that they aren’t being attacked for using the label? The thing is, they do get attacked for using the label and saying “okay, but you are actually bi so it’s fine uwu” is just another form of erasure. Also another reason why many people prefer mspec as a umbrella term rather than “bi umbrela/bi spectrum”. Pansexual people, just like polysexual, omnisexual and trisexual identify as those term because those are the term that resonate with them, that describe their experience and just feel right to them. Can you not imagine for one second how insulting it is to have someone come and tell you that no, actually you are this other term you don’t want or have anything to do with, because we said so. Bisexuality is not a default identity. It’s a full identity on itself, just like pansexuality/polysexualy/omnisexuality are full identities on themselves that deserve their own recognition without being shoved with other group. 4. The belief that somehow pansexual people are “escaping” biphobia and are more accepted for being pan This is just blatantly, objectively, factually and logically wrong. It doesn’t make any fucking sense. Literally all the crap that bi people lived, pan people lived it as well but they also have to live with everything above and see it go unchallenged by very vocal bi “activists” who preach about how the rest of the LGBT+ community doesn’t support them and somehow never realize that doesn’t happen for pan people either. It’s not a competion, but if it was, why do you assume you would win by default? Being pan is not a escape of fucking anything except identifying specifically as bi. That is the only thing that changes, but the erasure, the discrimination, the people creating stereotypes about you, defining your identity without your consent, calling you names for using a label over another, treating you as an invader for coming into “monosexual spaces”, people considering you not enough straight and not enough queer? Pan people live all of that too, also from the LGBT+ community. And our bi siblings treating us as somehow the privileged bunch that don’t know what they go through doesn’t help shit. 5. All the faces of bi vs pan discourse
The mere fact that there is such a thing like battleaxe bis is frankly embarassing enough, it is embarassing for me, but then there is this whole attitude where we can’t even mention the existence of pan without bringing bi people first. The only time pan (bad) history is brought up is by talking about bi history. Pan people’s issues are rarely discuss with as much openness and support as bi people’s ones. I have yet to see a single “LGBT+ activist” on youtube making a single video about panphobia. But videos about bi vs pan discourse where they do literally everything I said above, and more, those even right now I keep seeing and I am so fucking tired that I am meant to see this as a good thing, as support, because see, they AKNOWLEDGE pansexuality exist, isn’t that enough? No, it isn’t. Pan people deserve more than that. We all do. They are not tag alongs, they are not a second thought, they are not just part of this fucking ridiculous joke of a discourse. They are an actual group of people who keep living and having issues even when June is over and peope move on. They are not “bi with another name”, “another name for bi”, “another face of bi”. They are full blown identities with our own long and complicated history beyond this fucking joke of a website, beyond your discourse, beyond the two pan people who told you “eh, shouldn’t you be pan if you like all?” one time in twitter or wherever the fuck, beyond any relationship with bisexuality as a whole. And it bother me so fucking much because it’s more about “bi and pan solidarity uwu!” rather than pan support, uplifting pan people, pan positivity, as if we don’t exist anywhere else and don’t have any other issues outside of this imaginery silly boxing match against bi people, who should be the people who understand pan people better than anyone else, should know exactly what it is to be redefined, ignored and talked over by other, but many, way too many, are not.  Fuck, I have even seen “activist” criticizing how pan people don’t go out to support bi people or fight for bi issues (which is a fucking lie, again, think the Bi and Pan Network) and yet have their entire body work being about bi people, bringing up pan just to say how injust is that have that label force on them when they are bi, just bi, entirely bi and not a flavor of pan. But pan people want to do the same for themselves, talk for their own shit for once and get accused of throwing bi people under the bus. It’s like people treat us as cojointed twins, but only one of them is generally accepted as their own individual while the other is kept in that same position no matter what they do. This is not to put down the bi community. I know we can be a welcoming, understanding, warm and open community. But we need to do better because right now, we are not doing that and this shit, this exact shit, only harm us all and won’t ever help us in the long run. Do better.
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melissachan · 2 years
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Unfriendly reminder that bi people's attraction to and relationships with the opposite gender is as important and meaningful of a part of their identity as their attraction to and relationships with the same gender and not some ugly imperfection on their LGBTQ+ record they need to hide and be ashamed of to make you feel better.
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tina-snow · 2 years
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now that crush is out i’m confused bc i forgot about that whole thing w auli’i calling rowan biphobic 💀 like did anything happen with that??
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miharuhebinata · 2 years
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famous bisexual women are being sued left & right by the men they've called out for abuse. but yes, please do go on about how ~annoying~ it is when bi women bring up their cishet male partners in queer spaces 🙄
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mercyofempty · 2 years
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talked to my irl about my job situation cus he used to work there and he said my managers a known wanker and apparently biphobic so 👍
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raccoonzinspace · 2 years
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Honestly, if I receive any acephobia or whatnot directly at me specifically, I might turn it into a joke and throw it back in their face. I make fun of myself enough to not really care. :)
Though, if someone is homophobic/transphobic/biphobic/panphobic/acephobic/etc towards my friends then I'll probably fight that person.
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