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homuraakemis · 1 month

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Jonas Kahnwald + causing the deaths and suffering of his lover, family and closest friends

#dark netflix #darkedit #darknetflixedit #jonas kahnwald #martha nielsen #jonas x martha #mikkel nielsen #hannah kahnwald #silja tiedemann #bartosz tiedemann #claudia tiedemann #hanno tauber #my edit #my post.#he's so tragic :'(#by the way i don't fully blame him for all of these (he wasn't to blame for what happened to his father)#but i just think it's sad how he directly or indirectly caused the suffering of all the people he cared about

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yellow-dejavu · 1 month

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It was unexpected for me that Claudia, Jonas, Noah and Elisabeth ended up being the post-apocalypse group, but the four of them fit so well together.

They don't really had screentime together, but I can't stop thinking about the apocalypse family and how much they can relate to each other.

Each one of them lost their naivety when they discovered time travel and learned a little more about the reality of their world, but they lost their innocence when they experienced the reality of their dads death.

Each member of the group carries the guilt for the death of their dads.

Noah literally killed his dad, influenced by sic mundus.

Claudia tried to prevent her dad's death and accidentally caused it.

Jonas was led to believe that he could prevent his dad's suicide when in fact he was the trigger.

Elisabeth was not to blame for her dad dying, but she probably felt guilty that he died trying to protect her.

They were completely broken, and the person who came to comfort them and give them hope was a member of the apocalypse family.

After Bartosz died, Noah told his younger self that he knew how it felt and that the pain of what he had done would pass. Noah knew that wasn't true. It would be a pain he would never forget. Since he was the one who had defined the irony of his dad's fate, it had only become more painful.

Claudia met Jonas for the first time after what happened with Egon, and she realized that she couldn't change things. Jonas appearead and let her know that they could change things. This happened after Jonas had spent a year traveling with an older version of Claudia.

Jonas met Claudia for the first time when he realized that he wasn't there to stop his dad and that his attempt to save him had failed again. At that moment, Claudia came and told Jonas that he could save them all. So Jonas goes to spend a year with Claudia learning about time travel.

After Peter dies, Elisabeth only knows of a place somewhere in the woods where Noah stays, and Noah only knows that he would protect her. In the cave, they find the passage, and Noah tells Elisabeth about paradise. Their connection gave them hope. Even when Noah felt hopeless himself, he only wanted to give Elisabeth hope.

They just tried to give them some comfort. In one of their darkest moments, they were there for each other and tried to never give up hope.

Also everything that losing their moms represented for them.

Silja died when Noah was very young and apparently Bartosz became distant.

When Doris left, Egon started to drink. It was probably at that moment that his relationship with Claudia became colder.

Their relationships with their dads deteriorated when they lost their moms. A disagreement resulted in the death of their dads. Noah and Claudia eventually saw their dads again, but it was a younger version of their dads who didn't yet recognize that version of them as their kid.

I think it is similar with Elisabeth and Jonas.

The first thing Jonas did when he got home was look for his mom, and he couldn't find Hannah. He probably thought he couldn't save his mom just like he couldn't save his dad.

Peter and Elisabeth were still trying to find Franziska and Charlotte, and after months she just thought they were dead. When her father died, I don't think there was any hope of seeing her mother again.

For years, Jonas and Elisabeth probably assumed that their moms had died in the apocalypse. It was unexpected the way they were reunited with their moms, and the revelations that came from it.

This group is so interesting to me because they experienced many years of friendship and then all that was left was betrayal. Although I will never forget all those years of friendship that I never saw.

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hannahstanwald · 2 months

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dark season 3

#dark netflix #dark 2017 #louis hofmann #jonas kahnwald #martha nielsen #magnus nielsen #bartosz tiedemann #lisa vicari #moritz jahn #paul lux #dark #tv series #tv shows #baran bo odar #jantje friese

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a-e-s-c-h-y-l-i · 7 months

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powermove102 · 9 months

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1888 is the FUNNIEST Dark era for me.

First up, you've got Jonas appearing out of nowhere, middle-aged, after being missing for half a year, and he's all like 'leave your damn families, *I'm* gonna save you xx', before plonking them all off in said 1888, which I can only imagine going down with a 'Where are we, Jonas?' '.... fuuuuuuck....'

Then the previously discussed 'how do you do, fellow kids?' energy because he is *50 years old* and they are *not*, paired with the fact that he is likely awkward as FUCK since they don't have much to talk about anymore (and this man is socially deprived, he only gets to chat to someone about the loop every once in a while).

And the building resentment. Oooooooooo do we like some yummy tension within the group, because they can't really trust him, he feels he's failed them but is still determined to save them whist STILL resisting Adam-ification. Juicy, I tell you.

Also what are they doing all day. Literally. Jonas I assume spends most of his time tweaking the machine but like? What else? What do the others do? It's so damn hilarious how bored and annoyed out of their minds they must be that they (at least Magnus) WISHED the apocalypse had nuked them too.

#dark netflix #netflix dark #jonas kahnwald #stranger jonas #magnus nielsen #franziska doppler #bartosz tiedemann #and then alt martha stirred shit up #but it was already funny beforehand

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themenaceofalderaan · 4 months

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happy christmas to all the survivors in the dark fandom!

part one, two, three, four, six

#can we talk how pretty Hannah's actress actually is #dark netflix #martha nielsen #noah #magnus nielsen #bartosz tiedemann #ulrich nielsen #hannah kahnwald #text post #text post meme

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spectraling · 2 years

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Like mother (s1ep6), like son (s3ep3)

#dark netflix #dark #dark edit #regina tiedemann #bartosz tiedemann #jonas kahnwald #stranger jonas #katharina nielsen #specgifs

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thelostsisters · 1 year

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since dark is getting semi popular again here’s your reminder that they are still THE family ever

#still refusing to believe that regina and aleksander didn’t end up together #tiedemann family supremacy always #regina tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #bartosz tiedemann #dark netflix

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magg0t-bible · 1 year

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Why There's No Bartosz in the Origin World: A Calculated Infodump

So I know there were a few people who were upset about the fact that Aleksander and Regina's relationship didn't make it to the Origin World despite both of them still existing without time travel. I've also seen some people who said they felt bad for Bartosz because he didn't make it to the Origin World even though his birth wasn't the result of time travel. But after some careful consideration (read: hyperfixation go brrrr), I think I've come to a fairly logical conclusion about why this is the case. Originally, I thought that Aleksander and Regina only met because Aleksander pulled a gun on Ulrich to stop him from bullying Regina, and that event no longer happens with Ulrich out of existence. But there's more than that, and in this essay I will here is my explanation.

In season 2, when Clausen is interrogating Aleksander about the disappearance of his brother, the real Aleksander Kohler, he mentions that his brother disappeared "without a trace. Nothing." When someone in Dark disappears without a trace, nothing, we can pretty safely assume that time travel is to blame. Clausen assumes that his brother is dead and suspects "Aleksander" (Boris) of being the guilty party, but the disappearance happened in Marburg, not Winden, so we don't see it play out. It could be a Mikkel situation (taking on a new identity and a new life in a different time), or a Mads/Erik/Yasin situation (he just died and his body was dumped God knows when).

The letter that Clausen receives tipping him off about travelling to Winden to get answers about his brother's disappearance would at this point likely be presumed to have been written by Claudia. But after the events of season 3, it's much more likely to have been written by The Unknown, for 3 main reasons:

First, it includes the same quote ("he who has eyes to see and ears to hear...") that The Unknown says to Gustav Tannhaus before murdering him in 1888,

second, the handwriting on the letter matches the handwriting used by The Unknown when he writes the notebook,

and third, the motherfucker knows everything. Everything about what happens in both worlds, at every time, and is constantly catapulting between timelines murdering everyone in his way to make sure those events keep happening. (Though it remains unclear whether or not he knew there was a third world.)

So with this information under our belts, there's a pretty strong theory that The Unknown fabricated the Marburg incident to look like a murder and to make Boris Niewald look like the guilty party, which would lead to the following chain of events: Boris changes his name to Aleksander > he flees his past and comes to Winden > he meets Regina > the two of them get married and have Bartosz.

Keeping Bartosz in existence definitely would've been in The Unknown's best interest as Bartosz needed to produce Noah, the perpetrator of many of the Adam's World disappearances, and Agnes, who the Unknown would get with in both worlds to produce Tronte, and the Nielsen loop would continue.

So ultimately, in a world without time travel, Aleksander Kohler never disappeared, and the other events subsequently didn't occur. Boris Niewald never changed his name, he never fled to Winden, he never met Regina....and they never had Bartosz. (Yes, the writers could've come up with another reason for Boris to come to Winden and meet Regina which could've yielded Regina Niewald and Bartosz Niewald, but based on the way everything was set up, it would've required an explanation and I'm not sure such an explanation could fit into the dinner scene without being hamfisted).

I won't lie, I was pretty sad about losing Bartosz as he was my second favourite character behind Claudia (who thankfully made it), and he was the one member of the teen generation I really thought would survive. But if you can come up with a way for him to still exist, by all means, write a fix-it fic. That's what they're for. (Some good examples can be found in this post by @haljathefangirlcat)

#garden of eden #dark netflix #dark spoilers #dark s3 spoilers #bartosz tiedemann #aleksander tiedemann #regina tiedemann #thank you all for allowing my autistic ass to get up on my soap box and scream about my silly little show once more #though this post is hella long so I doubt it'll pop off as much as my 'Jonas and Martha are Marek and Sonja' revelation

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sexy-zeitreise-detektiv · 1 year

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ROUND 3: DARK

#the ultimate bo jantje verse sex man showdown #round 3 #bartosz tiedemann #jonas kahnwald #the stranger #noah dark #hanno tauber #dark netlix

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yellow-dejavu · 3 months

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dark altered my brain chemistry and now i want to know the most irrelavant things about a bunch of characters that doesn't even exist in their own series.

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hannahstanwald · 19 days

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if only they knew…

#dark netflix #dark 2017 #mikkel nielsen #jonas kahnwald #magnus nielsen #martha nielsen #bartosz tiedemann #franziska doppler #michael kahnwald #baran bo odar #jantje friese #dark

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xxrain05 · 2 months

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Dude no one told me that Bartosz was THIS fine!

Like Young Bartosz was great but THIS??? THIS IS SOOO GOOD!

Silja you really made your man be damn hot right?

And now I finally see the resemblance between these two. To me they didn’t look too much alike in the series, guess it’s just how their hairs always so greasy and how they have little to no sense of fashion in the 1920s XD

#dark netflix #dark noah #bartosz tiedemann #silja tiedemann #noah dark #wish we got to see more of alt-Bartosz #maybe he’ll be neater idk #and alt-Noah should definitely have a different hairstyle cause that’s just a alt thing???

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delicatebluebirdruins · 1 year

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I like to imagine Boris/ Alexander moved to Winden of his own free will no on the run truama run hanging over his head and met Regina and they fell in love and depending on time got married and had a child

#this can happen at any time #dark netflix #regina tiedemann #alexander tiedemann #bartosz tiedemann

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themenaceofalderaan · 5 months

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