#anyways fiction affects reality etc etc

[silvyslayer42]

I hope you realize that wishing harm on others makes you the shitter

I pray for your lost soul to understand that fiction does not affect reality the way you think it does and for you to find peace

I don’t wish harm on proshippers, in fact I want them to seek help. I just think going online and posting proships is at best an unhealthy form of escapism and at worst is actively promoting r^pe, pedophilia, and other horrible things.

The thing is that a good portion of them are just completely shameless and enjoy posting about p3dophilic or incest ships. They even tend to romanticize it and make it look cute, and while yes I do recognize that this could be a way to cope with trauma, if it’s posted online then anyone can see it and be influenced by it, and if it’s dressed up and treated like every other ship, they might start to think it’s normal.

The idea that fiction can never affect reality does not hold up under any scrutiny. What if another victim saw a post made by someone (even if that someone is a victim themselves) who proships, and was then triggered by it? What if a child who did not know better saw proshipping in online spaces that they’re a part of and thought that those types of relationships were normal or even preferable, and then became more vulnerable to that kind of victimization?

It being a coping mechanism is an explanation but not a reason that someone should do it, or be able to do it for recreation online because there can be bad coping mechanisms and proshipping is one of them.

And I know that being a proshipper online is fun and I know that because I was one. I was that dumb kid who saw people proshipping, believed that since it wasn’t real it was ok, and ended up getting duped into thinking it was normal. And I’ll be the first to say it, it was fun while I was doing it. It felt like I had a community, and it was honestly a great time “pissing off antis”. But as I got older, I guess I just realized that it was wrong, and it only stopped being fun once I admitted that.

Why am I spilling my entire guts to you in the first place? To be completely honest, I don’t always want to be your ‘enemy’ as an anti, especially if you’re legitimately using this stuff to cope with trauma and don’t know what else to do. I want every proshipper to seek out other, better, coping mechanisms. I honestly do think therapy would be beneficial for things like this and I definitely think some of you guys need some serious time offline.

All this to then say I honestly just think it’s kinda funny to bully proshippers. They chose to post this stuff publicly where anyone can see it and if they can’t handle a few insults then they could just, not post on the public platform, and do everything privately.

You don’t have more of a right to an online space just because you’re traumatized and like using a bad coping mech lol. A ton of antis are also victims so I don’t know where some of y’all get the idea that it’s only traumatized people proshipping and only people who have never been a victim or touched a mental illness with a ten foot poll who are antis.

I’m probably rambling a lot but I just have a lot to say on this topic because it’s been a part of my life for so long. But yeah back to the ask I definitely don’t want harm to come to anyone and if you got that impression I would like to dispel that now. I do think proshipping is marginally better than s3lf h^rm so there’s that ig? If you’re going to do something drastic if you can’t proship then do it if only to keep yourself safe, but that doesn’t make it ok and that doesn’t mean you don’t have to better yourself.

#also proshitters are people who think fiction can never affect reality ever so they just proship for fun and not as a coping mechanism #honestly I think the best cure for that is to just go outside #socialize #etc #but also no one should be telling anyone to kts. but it’s not only antis doing that so yk #I’ve seen proshippers bully antis out of spaces and wrongly report them just to get them banned #it is not the one way street you might think it is #but anyways just so we’re crystal clear I think ‘proshitters’ are a subgroup and not everyone is worthy of that insult #god this was a long post holy damn #if you read that entire thing I commend you tbh #don’t harm yourself. seek out professional help. start a journal maybe. etc etc

[yandere-writer-momo]

Thinking about a Yandere Demon Lord. This is Part 1.

Yandere Head Canons:

Defying Destiny

Yandere Demon Lord x Isekai Saintess Reader x Yandere Hero

TW: Voyeurism, stalking, Somniaphilia, dacryphillia, dark content, etc

Part 2

You were surprised to be alive after your cold fiancé pushed you into oncoming traffic when you got into an argument with him… all you had wanted was for him to show you that he loved you, but instead he killed you. Yet your life didn’t end… no. Far from it.

Rather than waking up in the supposed after life, you woke up in the Rerenth Kingdom. A fantasy kingdom in a magical world plagued with problems written in fiction novels. And the emperor explained to you, no, demanded that you to take on your role as Saintess to save them from the Demon King.

The demon king was now your enemy. Defeating him was the only way for you to go home… but did you even want to do that? In your last life and in this one, you were merely another unhappy pawn. The silk robes and dazzling abilities did nothing to shield you from the harsh reality of what your life has become once more… would you ever truly be free? Would you ever truly be happy?

The servants often spoke of the monstrous Demon King who controlled the forces of darkness that sought to destroy the light. A demonic entity none of the people in this kingdom had ever truly seen with their own eyes, but they believed him to be out there… how else were they to explain the supernatural happenings that plagued their kingdom? This entire ordeal made little sense to you since you hadn’t seen many disputes between humans and demons unless they were over territory. Vast majority of the time, it was humans that ventured into the demonic lands anyways. Was this perhaps some propaganda tactic? You didn’t know and you didn’t question it, you simply wanted to retire to a peaceful life.

It took a few weeks for you to be able to control your new holy power, but you were able to now harness it for barriers and for healing. Abilities that would be useless without a hero… a fact that the citizens soon realized so they began to devise another plan. To summon a hero!

Another few weeks passed by and they successfully summoned a valiant hero by the name of Reinhardt. His chiseled face was constantly covered by the taxidermied lion mask that adorned his face. The man was massive and intimidating, yet you couldn’t help but feel there was something familiar about him. You couldn’t place a finger on who he could possibly be since you didn’t know anyone else with an imposing stature like his but that gut feeling never left you.

Reinhardt would often glance you up and down when he thought you weren’t looking. His green eyes would bore into yours until you felt as if you’d be set ablaze. He was terrifying to you. Especially now that you were on a journey with him to defeat the demon king… along with a fox beastwoman fighter and an elven mage who had joined your party due to the emperor’s order. The Emperor didn’t see you to be enough aid to the hero on this important quest.

Both adventurers were quite rude to you at first since you had no offensive abilities. They often fawned over the hero who blatantly ignored their affections to instead watch over you like a hawk. A fact the two women didn’t really enjoy, but they accepted it as the weeks melted into months. And you still didn’t know their names since they never told you (and Reinhardt never spoke).

The three of them often fought and killed monsters and demons while you protected the supplies and healed their injuries. It upset you that your party ambushed them since the enemies usually were unarmed. Majority of the time, it was a one-sided slaughter. An endless bloodbath that you had no power to stop.

You often lied to your peers about monsters hiding, unaware that your small act of kindness would lead to a snowball effect in the future. You had now caught the eye of an entity much stronger than you and the hero’s party… all because you were merciful. You were kind and sweet. A true saintess.

Your softness had made your peers joke about you being a cry baby. The elven mage and beastwoman often jabbed their elbows into your side to joke about the tears you’d cry because they thought you were scared. The dense women never realized your tears were for the innocent monsters they slaughtered on a day to day basis too. You were never scared of the demons or monsters, you were scared of them.

Yet Reinhardt nipped the subtle bullying in the bud by shoving the other two adventures away from you with his strong arms. He always made sure you were safe before he offered his body for healing… which he’d just make gesture at you with his hands rather than speak. It seemed he was fond of you, a fondness you didn’t understand since he never spoke to you.

Reinhardt would often pick you up without asking you and tuck you into the crook of his large arm. It bothered you that he never took off his mask, but he had quite an attractive jawline with the slightest bit of stubble. There was not a doubt in your mind that Reinhardt was likely an attractive man, but that didn’t matter. Since he was creepy.

Reinhardt never uttered a word to you but would always dutifully stand by your side (or carry you like some sort of damsel). He often reminded you of your ex fiancé with his stoic demeanor and his bewitching green eyes. And the staring. You swore you felt bare under his gaze even if you had multiple layers on.

And it wasn’t just his eyes you felt on you, you swore there was someone else watching you in the shadows and the possibility of you having another stalker made your skin crawl. Had you finally gone insane from having Reinhardt be around you 24/7? Or was there something sinister amiss?

Maybe that’s why Reinhardt so dutifully clung to you? Whether his protection was out of obligation or simply because he lusted for you, his presence did little to ease the extra set of eyes. In fact, he made it worse.

Wherever you were, Reinhardt was never far. He was with you when you bathed to stand guard. He was carrying you if you couldn’t keep up with him and the rest of the hero’s party. Reinhardt even began to stay in your tent with you…

He didn’t utter a word when he watched over you whenever you had nightmares. Reinhardt never woke you up from the horrific dreams of the man with pitch black hair and sharp talons pulling you into his lap and having his way with you. No, Reinhardt instead dragged his tongue down your tear stricken face in delight.

Reinhardt knew his actions were wrong, but he couldn’t help but fawn over your helpless form. You were so weak without his protection… you were a lamb sent to a slaughter that luckily had a herding dog with you. You should be grateful Reinhardt had such an intense interest in you, otherwise you could have perished earlier on at the goblin camps. Or those other two party members would have likely broken a few of your bones from rough housing. You were a frail bird that needed to be locked up at all times and Reinhardt was willing to be the one to do that! He would keep you safe, even if it took you years to understand even an ounce of his magnitude of feelings for you. He was a patient man!

It wasn’t uncommon for you to wake up in your tent with Reindhart’s imposing form standing over you ominously. You’d cry every single time, but he’d make no move to comfort you. Only stare.

Over the last four weeks, you begin to receive little trinkets in your tent on the daily. Delicacies that Reinhardt would immediately pitch once he saw them, but it filled you with anxiety that he was not the one slipping you those gifts… who on earth could be gifting you such pretty rocks and wild flowers?

You were flattered, just the tiniest bit, by the small, temporary gifts. They were much more welcomed than the iron grip of Reinhardt’s arms. Even though the sender made you anxious, it was nice to know that someone took you into consideration. It was a small action that filled you with hope. Perhaps you would be saved from this fate?

Shame you didn’t understand just how much those tiny gifts upset the hero. Your eyes should only be on him. Your entire purpose should revolve around him. Reinhardt wanted to find the individual who sent you these gifts so he could rip them limb from limb. You belonged to him and he would show you that you had no way of escaping him. You were going to be his bride! Whether you liked it or not, the hero had chosen you as his destined one!

Recently, you’d wake up to him laying beside you in your tent with his large arms wrapped around you. His Roman nose buried into the crook of your neck. This was far worse than him lingering in your tent since he had become so physical.

And your peers did nothing about his harassment of you. To them, it was cute that the hero was so ‘enamored’ with the Saintess! You’ve even heard whispers of how the emperor will no doubt arrange a marriage between the two of you once the four of you eliminated the demon king. It terrified you even more because you knew you’d have little say in the matter… your life was spiraling out of your own control once more. This time, into the arms of some brute with attachment issues. You didn’t want to marry another emotionally constipated man! You wanted to have freedom!

You often cried yourself to sleep which only made Reinhardt even more overbearing. He now would press kisses to your cheeks and cuddle his body into yours. Even in your dreams, you couldn’t escape this massive man. If only you could be saved…

And when you drifted off into an unnaturally heavy sleep, your barriers deactivated. An action that allowed the Demon King to finally slip into your party’s camp and take what he wanted. You.

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[let-them-fight]

Okay since this has suddenly blown up over the last 3 days, I want to make a post discussing what I meant by it. Because I have shit to say.

Fiction doesn’t affect reality, but fiction can affect people. For better or for worse.

You might read a book and some random line might inspire you enough to want to live by it.

You might play a video game and come away questioning about something you’ve never really thought about before.

(also, just to get this out of the way)

And in regards to the original post— yes, there have been cases in which groups advocating for change have been taken advantage of by bad people. To ignore that would be to ignore history.

But the thing is, that is a real life example. Real people, places, organizations and concepts are and will always be impossible to convey in fictional media because those things are always changing. They are never just black and white, never.

Meanwhile, fiction is different. Whether it’s a book, game, movie, tv show— even the most complex of media will never truly be as “complex” as reality.

Because fiction is written. Scripted, animated. Filmed. Programmed, sculpted, published.

Reality isn’t any of those things. What a person feels, does, says, thinks, isn’t written down, isn’t predestined by some script or line of code— the closest way I can describe it is that it’s dictated by 1,000 hands doing a coin flip at the same time with a 3-sided penny that immediately falls into a hole before a winner can be discerned.

Anyways. I’m off topic.

What I’m trying to get at is that no fictional character has the agency that a real person has. We cannot interview a fictional character and get an idea of how their thought process works, or hell what they had for breakfast or something. No.

Because the extent to which a fictional character, setting, etc. exists— is between the time the opening title fades out and the credits fade in. The time between you clicking new game & when you’ve reached the true ending. When you open page 1 and end page 200.

But like I said. Fiction can have an effect on real people’s minds, for better… or for worse.

You are a viewer who might not know any better. You might not be well informed on history, and may easily have your mind shaped by whatever you consume.

You turn on a show, plug into a game, open a book, grab your popcorn and watch a movie. And in this media, there’s a character, or maybe multiple characters— and their cause is laid out, plain and simple.

Maybe they’re apart of some oppressed group, fictional or nonfictional, who wants change in society. Who wants their oppressors to just stop oppressing them, and has been pushed to the extent in which the only way their voices can be heard is through violence. Most likely they are already “antagonists” of the narrative, but that their goals are treated as being… “understandable”… by either that narrative, or the main cast.

At least, to the extent that these protagonists can still gleefully beat the shit out of them without anyone batting an eye.

And you continue watching, playing, reading, etc. And most likely at this point, the narrative has begun to portray these particular antagonists in a different light.

Perhaps they’ve begun upholding the goals they said they had less and less. They’re becoming more violent just for the sake of it.

And also at this point it is likely that the narrative is… silently… treating this character’s/group’s initial goals with less and less favorability. Key word, silently.

“Oh, this character is fighting back against oppressors… but now they’re killing people? How evil, surely pushback against oppressive groups can never be achieved.”

“Oh, this fictional group/organization wants to fix their society? Their society which has displaced them without care? …Oh, but they’re bombing buildings now, surely we could never take their displacement seriously.”

And eventually as you near the end of this narrative, the slippery slope has been slipped upon. In an instant, the character(s) whose goals were at least given a shred of sympathy at the beginning of this story

suddenly end up killing thousands of people.

Or maybe, they suddenly turn out to be apart of the very group they’re trying to combat against.

Or maybe, they’re a Holocaust survivor.

Another thing you might see the narrative start to do at this point is suddenly reveal the backstory of this character/organization— and most likely, it’s something sad, upsetting, angering. But it rings hollow, it’s meant to ring hollow. Because when you give a character(s) you’ve already assigned the hatesink role to, that backstory will be disregarded in the instant if never explored upon. And in most instances… it’s not explored upon. It’s shock value.

And while this might not be the case for the character above, as my knowledge of X-Men is fairly limited… I can say that this is the case for another character:

This character was branded.

This character who, in universe, is apart of a fictitious minority group, is revealed to have been branded and enslaved by a company run by his oppressors, with outside material implying this was possibly done while he was a minor.

Good thing this was revealed after he turned out to be a genocidal terrorist & abuser! Who cares that he was branded? I bet whoever did it just really “let him have it.” (Writer’s own words!) Please don’t look up the fact that Adam is a Hebrew name! Please also don’t realize that the initials he was branded with & the company he was enslaved by had a German name!

And most likely at this point, the character(s) have two routes to go down.

They die graphically. Maybe not in a big bloody gorebath, but they’re not given the same amount of liberty in death that other villains in this media might get. Bonus points if it’s on-screen. However, you’ll have the main character “mourning the loss” of them, or rather, what they could’ve been, if only they’d not gone so far!

2. Or just take what I said in 1 but without the last sentence.

And then, credits roll. You’ve reached the true ending. Page 200. Final episode. Whatever. And if you’re the viewer I mentioned at the beginning of all of this, who might not know any better—

who takes what they see in fiction and applies it to the world around them…

You’ll think. “Are people/groups like that in the real world this dangerous, too?” (especially if it’s used in media meant for children.)

But anyways.

It’s propaganda dipped in flashing lights or likable characters. It’s propaganda that’s hidden under cool set pieces, beautiful cinematography, “good writing.”

I wanna reiterate what I said earlier in this post.

“What I’m trying to get at is that no fictional character has the agency that a real person has. We cannot interview a fictional character and get an idea of how their thought process works, or hell what they had for breakfast or something. No. Because the extent to which a fictional character, setting, etc. exists— is between the time the opening title fades out and the credits fade in. The time between you clicking new game & when you’ve reached the true ending. When you open page 1 and end page 200.”

When a character advocating for justice or freedom or something noble and good, suddenly ends up murdering babies or bombing hospitals, they loose the “advocating for justice or freedom” part. They’ve shifted from one part of their written arc to the next.

We only see what the narrative allows us to. So when the narrative only allows us to see these character(s) do horrific things, we subconsciously interpret that these things were their main goals all along. And most often, this kind of narrative will prove you right on that front. Sadly.

And again. If you’re “that viewer”— you’ll apply that logic to the world around you. You’ll grow into that logic. You’ll see news reporters regard people protesting a genocide as “needing to be put in insane asylums” and nod your head. You’ll see podcasters tout a group fighting against police brutality and racism as terrorists and agree with them.

Maybe I’m being exaggerative. It’s 12 am here. But what I’m really trying to emphasize here is that this trope is propaganda. Yes, there are real world examples of bad people taking over good organizations. But when you present a scenario like that in fiction, you subtract the nuances and complexities that real life has.

And it becomes propaganda. Propaganda that no one is immune to, and anyone can be susceptible to.

It’s propaganda when Bioshock’s Daisy Fitzroy, a black revolutionary & former slave who wanted freedom for her people, has her goals invalidated time & time again and is portrayed as just as evil as the system itself.

It’s propaganda when The Legend of Korra’s Zaheer, who wanted to destroy the authority figures of the world so that all people could be free, ends up torturing the main protagonist on screen.

It’s propaganda when Star Wars’ Barriss Offee, who wanted the Jedi to return to being peacekeepers, not warmongers, and then bombing their temple. (Didn’t help that she’s heavily Muslim coded.)

It’s propaganda when Game of Throne’s Daenerys Targaryen goes from being a victim of abuse who wanted to liberate the oppressed and destroy their oppressors, to becoming a murderer of thousands because “she was mean to some slavers.”

It’s propaganda when RWBY’s White Fang, a group made up of members of an in-universe minority race, are never once given a shred of sympathy, becoming nothing more than evil terrorists wanting to take over the world, and are even blamed as “the cause of their own racism.”

It’s propaganda when Marvel’s Erik Killmonger wants to continue what his father wanted and empower black people around the world to fight against their oppression, “overthrow their oppressors”, but then just… actually wants to conquer the entire world.

And it’s propaganda when Magneto, a Jewish man, a survivor of the holocaust… is written to be an advocate for genocide.

TL;DR:

#tumblr #let them fight #no one fight #marvel #erik killmonger #x-men #magneto #social justice #fiction #literary analysis #literary criticism #meta #analysis #rwby #bioshock #star wars #avatar #avatar the legend of korra #the legend of korra #the last airbender #game of thrones #long post #image heavy #will likely improve upon the image id’s later #dragon age #snd if I worded any of this wrong please lmk.

[taffywabbit]

im also anti proship but calling rugrats porn drawings "child porn" really dilutes the severity of actual child porn. we shouldnt be confusing actual cp that hurts real children with just weirdos drawing porn of cartoon characters that happen to be kids, the two things are not at all on the same level

ok i suppose this was inevitable, i may as well get into it.

(CW for some discussion of CSA and child pornography, obviously)

first off, "i'm also anti proship but" is a terrifying way to start your message, and to go and follow it up with some extremely common proship copypasta i've heard a million times about "taking attention/resources/severity/etc away from real CSA victims" or whatever kinda makes me wonder how "anti proship" you actually are...?

kind of the point of this whole debate is typically that "proship" folks insist that fiction, or in this case "porn of cartoon characters that happen to be kids" as you put it, has no effect on reality or people's mindsets. and so-called "antis" like myself generally respond to this idea with something along the lines of "well it sure seems to affect the reality of your cock and balls", and point out how repeatedly consuming media with a particular focus or message has been shown time and time again to quantifiably influence the way people view the world around them, in ways that subsequently affect how they act, or desensitize them to things that might otherwise upset/offend them. y'know, like political propaganda! or blockbuster movies about killer sharks! obviously some people are going to be more resilient against that sort of influence when the real-world equivalent of "porn of cartoon characters that happen to be kids" is something so blatantly unacceptable, and nobody is really claiming that the impact of fictional CP is "on the same level" as its IRL counterpart.

but at the very least, most people who would be considered "anti proship" WILL tell you "hey, i'm not trying to say that you jerking it to twitter porn of Gwen Tennyson or Tails or whatever is LITERALLY THE SAME as committing CSA, but it's still really fucking concerning and creepy that the majority of your sexual fixations are all specifically cutesy vulnerable cartoon characters under the age of 12, many of whom also have canonical adult designs that you conveniently avoid in favor of sexualizing the ones that are barely old enough to learn long division. you should maybe do some introspection and figure out why that is and whether or not you're really comfortable with what it implies about you. personally i know I'M not comfortable with that shit and i'm not going to keep hanging around you unless you make some serious changes." except usually in my experience the conversation ends up being a lot shorter and ends in a block pretty quickly. like i'm not a psychologist and i don't keep a bunch of studies on hand to throw at you about how fictional CP is often a factor in grooming, but i DO have a brain and can pretty clearly see when someone is rationalizing behavior that will lead them to places i'm not willing to follow.

ANYWAYS to focus more specifically on the actual reason we're talking about this (which was, to be clear, a mobile ad Tumblr served me that depicted one of the dads from Rugrats having sex with his 3yo daughter): yes, actually, that shit IS illegal to create or distribute. it's not the SAME as literal photographs of real children, OBVIOUSLY, but it's still also extremely fucked up in its own right, and any reasonable person in your life would probably stop talking to you if you told them you got off to it.

don't believe me about the legality part? check this out:

so like, I GUESS you might get some legal leeway with cub furry art or sonic porn or stuff that isn't always obvious in how much it's intended to parallel real children? if you really care? but this ad was literally multiple illustrations of a human adult man having intercourse with a human toddler. it's pornography centered around openly fetishizing the sexual assault of a child by a parent. i fail to see how referring to that in shorthand as "child porn" is inaccurate in any way that matters.

and Tumblr is a US-based company, beholden to the laws shown above, so they are at least somewhat responsible when illustrated pedophilic incest porn gets shown to thousands of their mobile app users in an ad they got paid to display. THAT was the original point i was making in my post. but thank you for trying to derail it to interrogate my "anti proship" views or whatever, i have had multiple people send me fairly nasty asks about it in the past year and you finally caught me in a moment when i was already pissed enough about something else that i felt like going off about this stuff. sorry if you actually agreed with most of this and i came off as overly rude/harsh, but if that's the case then this response is for all the other anon asks and replies i've gotten too, i guess.

now we're all clear about where i stand and i hopefully don't need to talk about this again - it's kind of a fucking bummer to think about this stuff and i've been avoiding the subject intentionally. you are always welcome to just block me if you have a problem

#buny text #ask #anonymous #cw CSA mention #nsft

[alienautism]

✨ NEW INTRO POST WE BALL,,, ✨

⭐ hi !!! im jj or atlas !!! im an irl dog and i draw things looool !! mind and heart r real and they talk to me a lot,,, ⭐

🏳️‍🌈 my queer identities include 🏳️‍⚧️ -

• aroace hypersexual transmasc pangaylesbian demiboy {the hypersexuality part is a problem}

• canine {i mean u see the vision right}

• baltimorian aussie 🇦🇺💔💔

• french learning 🇨🇵😭😭

• PLURR anti-harassment pro freak 🌈🌟

🚫 DNI LIST 🚫

dream stans | racist / n*zi / zi*nist | sysmed / anti-endo | radqueer / kandiqueer / xenosatanist / pro/neu/com-contact paraphile / pro-transid | queerphobic / transmed / anti-mspec lesbian/gay/anti-male lesbian / etc | puritan / anti-fiction / anti-kink / believe in thought crimes / "immoral" attractions / "fiction affects reality" | overly sensitive | anti-transspecies / therian | anti-agere / anti-permakid / etc | basically anything that is actually harmful

{i will always be accepting of those who are kind to all and do not commit/support harm irl {and if u support harm to those u find 'icky' without them doing any harm irl especially over fiction of any type,, ur the person who's not safe to be around,, not them {ur literally a diet c*nservative}}}

anyways i love chonny jash and hot sus adult men bye :3

sus men like him ↓ 🥺🙏🏾

also heres some recent art iggg

#anti radqueer #therian #profic #anti harassment #pro endo #PLUR #lgbtqia #art #meet the artist #dog

[ghostfoolish]

So this post is kind of a sequel to this post. I wanted to go more in depth as to why I said that but also talk about why I feel like ther term anti and proshipper are both fundamentally broken. Again, I’m speaking from the experience of being an ex-proshipper. I’m neither of the two. I think both sides are bad and reductive. I’ve been on both sides and I’ve seen the toxicity of both sides. Do NOT call me anti and do NOT call me a proshipper.

Anyways even when I still considered myself to be part of that group, the trend with them calling conservatives and right-wingers “antis” started to come about. At first it wasn’t like that. On a surface level an anti was someone who was just an opposite of a proshipper, someone who harassed people in fandoms over ships or characters that they deemed problematic and harmful. Over time I started to notice proshippers calling people antis over minor disagreements and eventually they started calling actual bigots antis. By that point I started to become frustrated because this word that had a set definition already and actually did have a lot of right wing anti-sjw types in it, started to expand and expand until it became almost like an umbrella term for anything that was of the left.

Is an anti someone that harasses people over ships?

Is an anti a conservative/right winger/puritan?

Is an anti someone who doesn’t like proshippers?

Is an anti someone who doesn’t like a certain ship or character?

Is an anti someone who disagrees with a proshipper during a discussion?

And this isn’t stuff that I just pulled out of my ass, these are all different groups of people that ive seen proshippers call antis. If it’s all of the above then you’re grouping in actual dangerous political groups or people who want those groups to thrive with someone like me. Which is fucked up because conservatives/ right wingers/ puritans wants to eradicate me. That’s why I tell proshippers to not call me that (they do it anyways) because the term anti is too broad and encompasses too many things, just like the term proshipper.

Proship started off as “people who don’t harass others over ships and believe that fiction doesn’t affect reality in a 1:1 way.”

But now? I’ve seen proshippers say that proshipping is pro freedom of expression, pro-free speech, anti harassment, anti censorship, anti racism, pro lgbtq+ etc. Basically it is everything that is left leaning and everything that I also stand for. BUT. I’ve had them come to me over and over and tell me that it doesn’t matter that I’m left leaning, that I’m black, that I’m queer, that Im against harassment or hate speech or pro free speech or whatever. The mere fact that I think that shipping drama shouldn’t come up in discussions about real world topics and that complaining about “antis” when a post is talking about trans issues is tone deaf, was enough for them to label me an anti and much MUCH worse.

Things that are actually bad and actually dangerous are sharing the same label with things that aren’t. In the eyes of proshippers Iam on the same level as a person who wants me dead and has killed, tortured and attacked my people for decades and decades. When people genuinely believe that, it creates an all or nothing mentality. You’re either a proshipper or you’re a person who is a fascist or at the very least, supports fascism and im not using fascist randomly, it’s because I was called a fascist and a nazi for the same post that I mentioned above.

That “either your for us or against us” mentality is how you get absolutely insane coo coo takes like this

Where people insinuate that being a proshipper/supporting proshippers is somehow intrinsic to being queer and that setting up boundaries for them to not interact with you is seen as you forgetting your own people’s history…

Mind you, the proshipping community is mostly made up of white people and there is a racism problem in it that I’ve had to witness, ended up taking part in and was the victim of MULTIPLE times. And some of it is because they will slap the anti label onto anyone.

You know what happens when you’re labeled an anti by a proshipper? They show no sympathy towards you because they believe that antis are/ support oppressors. When you are labeled as an anti they don’t take the time to differentiate if you are Anti: Genuine Bigot Flavored™️ or Anti: Minor Disagreement Flavored™️. They just come at you as if you are actively trying to take away their rights.

This causes someone to go through harassment and this includes racist harassment.

And when a person who had to endure harassment from them says “hey I got fucking harassed, dog pilled and got slurs spammed in my inbox by y’all only for saying that I don’t like proshippers” they counteract it by saying “Woah! Sorry you went through that but those weren’t proshippers. We don’t stand for that, only antis harass people. So those were really antis!”

I’ve seen this happen and said over and over and over and it’s even been said to me after I was harassed.

Telling people that they have to let proshippers engage with them even if it is triggering to do or else you are an anti (everything they deem as oppressive) is almost cult-like.

TL;DR

“Anti” is a label that encompasses too many things which include acts of actual oppression with benign disagreements on ships and characters and because of this, it often groups in oppressors with the groups they seek out to oppress.

#thought long and hard about making a post like this #proshipping #antishipping #fandom #fandom racism

[hagfishviperfish]

this might get me taken out back and shot but i’m thinking about killing stalking and… it’s really not that serious is it? like i feel like this is a consequence of kids being on the internet so they view this horrifically gruesome and complex story and naturally dislike it because it’s horrific and gruesome and saying you are a horrible person because you like this story. honestly i thought killing stalking as a narrative was mid… that’s slightly because i read it when i was younger, and a lot of it is also skewed towards yoon bum’s pov and yoon bum is dumb as fuck so the dark mechanisms behind sangwoo’s actions are on the subtle and symbolic side, especially when you’re young and your media literacy isn’t fully formed… which is another consequence of kids on the internet. the whole thing with western kids oversimplifying killing stalking and etc. was messy (but inevitable kids are cringe and silly whatever). my point being kids should not be looking at this

this is not to infantilize hurt young people who saw aspects of themselves in this work. what i’m trying to say is this is adult fiction, not danganronpa, on both sides of the scale of young readings of killing stalking things were misplaced. although in hindsight the killing stalking 21 questions cosplay videos with sangwoo and yoon bum arguing over the remote to watch my big fat g****y wedding is funny as fuck but um yeah

and then i also thought killing stalking was mid because it kind of is; it just wasn’t that appealing to me, plotwise, it was *too* slow for me, maybe i should reread it one day but i got better things to do

anyway people who go to killing stalking for shipping purposes who cares. with the recent boom of toxic yaoi/yuri it makes me realize that the personal hatred of killing stalking and all its fans in certain circles was kind of overwrought. that shit’s torture porn, the name’s on the tin, it will never not be torture porn, why the surprise that torture porn is torture porn. maybe i’m dsensitized? but a tomato is a tomato

tldr who gives a shit…internet culture is interesting, people are way too invested sometimes…to each their own… the whole “fiction doesnt affect reality” debate to rationalize liking kids and shit is not my fucking cup of tea but in this case it is quite literally fiction. it’s interesting to me how my perspective has changed over all these years

that being said, we all still have monkey brains and i will still dislike people for liking things the wrong way. my perspective is the right one ☺️

[earlgreytea68]

It’s GO2 anon from last night) I wanted to add, that although the ending of a new season is painful, the season itself is quite good. It got me this hard because it is a fandom love for me, and one of my otp, and my comfort blanket etc. but if you’re “normal” about the show, and you love the book it would be a good experience, and I’m selfishly would love to read your take on it. Because sometimes it’s useful to see a levelheaded unbiased opinion. Anyway, have a great day :)

Awwww that is very flattering of you to say!

I actually have a fairly strict rule against fiction with unhappy endings because...it really upsets me. I feel like other people just shake it off and move on but I get really sad and brood upon it for a long time and it spills over to affect everything in my life. Idk why I'm like that, tbh! But this is why my fiction is so often the way it is hahaha. THEREFORE. I assume there is going to be a S3??? So I'll probably just wait until that comes out so that I won't be upset indefinitely lol

BUT ALSO it is always good for me to know going in that something is going to end in a super-upsetting way because then I can know not to get attached to anything. This is why I look up for spoilers for basically anything fictional I'm going to consume (sometimes I even look up spoilers for reality show competitions lol). I just really need to know what to expect so I can manage my emotions around the issue. So probably if I just go spoil myself a lot for the whole thing, I could be fine, Idk.

If I end up watching it, I'll let you know lol

[the-bloody-sadist]

Has there been pieces of media that have genuinely scared you before?

I’m actually a big scaredy cat! Although I find a lot of supernatural horror tropes uncreative and unmotivated, I also can only watch them through reviews by YouTubers most of the time because I don’t want to watch the scares myself. That’s one of the reasons why I prefer (and am more scared by) psychological horror. I enjoy that so much more than big scary demon haunts a house for the hundredth movie.

That is, if psychological horror has GOOD PSYCHOLOGY, which is even harder to find 😭.

With that said, the top horror types that scare me on a deeply personal level are: analogue horror, ARGs, and a category in cosmic horror that I would call “the earth wants to eat you” (i.e. Annihilation (2018) which shares elements with a part in a non-horror movie called Life of Pi that also terrified me as a teen, in which Pi lands on an island that is slowly trying to consume him whenever the sun sets.)

I’ll circle back around to the other categories, but in both Annihilation and that portion of Life of Pi, nature itself, having no consciousness as an entity that wants to kill or haunt or get revenge, is consuming all life as if to return living creatures to flora and fauna. In Annihilation, this is because of an alien force of life that has taken over a spot on the world that’s slowly growing, where the cycle of life is accelerated to the point that you see cells regenerate before your eyes. This causes tumors to grow in human brains in the course of a single day (causing madness—a particularly scary topic to me) and organisms take root inside their bodies when they sleep on the ground, which eventually grows out of them. When I saw this movie I wasn’t prepared for how it would affect me, and I was screaming my actual guts out when it came to the climax of the movie. I was so deeply disturbed that I couldn’t even go home to sleep on my own lmfao. There’s just something incredibly terrifying about the earth—meaning no harm and being an innocent creation—brutalizing humanity as it goes about it’s course. Again, if you watch it, the ending is the most disturbing part to me, and I had to cover my eyes for the whole scene AND WILL NEVER WATCH IT AGAIN 😭….

Next up, The Mandela Catalogue. If you know you know. I can’t see any images from it or hear the audio for the scares again. Anything to do with things that look like uncanny humans, things that pretend to be humans but are skinwalkers, and so on—I’m SO OUT. That’s the most terrifying concept to me. Along with this category I would include regular people not acting like themselves anymore—someone with a brain tumor perhaps who is acting odd or “innocently” attempting to hurt someone without full clarity of mind. HELP. Lmao 😭 the potential of it to be reality is way too close for me.

This is also why ARGs are also hard for me to watch. Since the whole concept is to portray it as reality and the creators will do everything in their power to tell the audience it’s not fictional, I have no absolutes and therefore cannot compartmentalize the fear it creates. I would never watch this kind of media except through the filter of a YouTuber reviewing it and explaining why it’s NOT REAL AND NOBODY DIED.

I do get disturbed quite easily by things like online media that’s strange (i.e. gory claymations by someone who was a weirdo irl and used the animations for his irl fantasies) and movies that are intensely graphic and have no positive elements at all. I know about pretty much every awful “banned” type film (A Serbian Film, Nekromantic, Cannibal Holocaust etc.) but only because I watch Mista GG make jokes about them so I don’t have to consider suicide. When things are made to be simply shock horror and have no clear point, there’s just something about it from a writer’s perspective that deeply troubled me. Because WHY DID THEY WRITE THAT SCRIPT???? If I can’t figure it out I get A BIT DISTRAUGHT….!!!

Lmao anyway, the last piece of media I’ll mention that REALLY unsettled me (except this time in a way where I think the film was brilliantly written and should be watched by those who can handle it better than me) is a movie called Mother! (2017). I won’t say much about it except that it’s an allegorical film representing the God of the Bible and his wife Mother Nature, and just….goddam, man. Religion in horror is always a turn-off for me or something I can’t handle, so this one hit hard after I realized what was going on. HIGHLY SUGGEST LOOKING AT THE ALLEGORICAL ELEMENTS BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE MOVIE THOUGH BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL MAKE THE EXPERIENCE SO MUCH BETTER. I went in totally blind and was sick with confusion.

ANYWAY! That’s all! Thank gods for tumblr where I can ramble to my heart’s content to the one person who asked 😵‍💫

#sadist’s answered asks #horror films

[emi-matchu]

I watch very little reality TV, but I enjoyed "Siren: Survive The Island" a lot!!

I need to look into whether wargame / game theory reality is like, a whole-ass genre, because I really enjoyed analyzing it lmao

vagued analysis + thematic spoilers below the cut, trying to keep it minimal but like, I do kinda imply who wins the whole-ass game in the end cuz you can't avoid that

SPOILERS BE HERE

So like, I found it fascinating how strategy was truly the winning factor every time: exactly all of the base battles went exactly how you would expect on paper. I found myself shouting so often "no no, this plan is nothing!!", and then it was very validating to watch them run around and have their plan be nothing LMAO—and to watch the people who have like, truly any sensible strategy consistently win the day.

That said, this show is perfectly on my skill edge, because I found that I was always predicting outcomes one step ahead, but I didn't at all clock that team as potentially a winner early on??

I did notice that two of the teams had a "charisma problem" that would lead everyone to gun for them, but I still kinda figured they'd be the final two? But in hindsight, the winners just simply kept their heads down and morale high, made smart choices every time, and didn't let the competitive-pride vibes get to them; and so of course they were going to get to 1v1, and win once they were there.

They even had an execution advantage in the final fight, but imo it didn't even really matter—like sure, physical execution determined arena battles, but literally never changed the outcome of a base battle imo: simple things like high ground mattered a lot more.

And one other interesting phenomenon that shook out of "strategy is the winning factor" is that the producers were able to consistently rig the game to go exactly how they wanted LOL

Like, it was kinda incredibly transparent how the arena battles and siren timings were very carefully selected to give advantages to the teams they wanted to keep in it til the end? and it's just kinda strange to me that it fully just worked every time, without a hitch. I expected something to go against their plan even once, and it just… didn't.

And I guess that's kinda my big takeaway… it's one thing to think about strategy etc in fiction, or to make predictions about how a company is doing, but it was really interesting to see a real-life scenario so strongly validate my intuition that like… yep, coherent strategy in a competitive space is wildly powerful, and not having it is devastating: if you don't literally have one specific reason for why a very hard thing will work out in your favor, then you should expect it to not. (The final battle was a very very clear example of this imo: one team had a plan that gave them the advantage, and the other team just kinda… let that happen and tried to grit their teeth through it.)

And conversely, a good plan is powerful! and in the right setting it can do a lot to set you apart from what everyone else experiences.

…anyway, I'm excited to explore this genre a bit more, I want to flex my muscles a bit on predicting how a wargame will go long-term, instead of just looking at one step at a time. It's exciting and fun!!

(Anyone have recs for series that scratch that same itch of "let's look at a territory map and think about how that affects strategic decisions"? Doesn't have to be literally a territory map lmao but like, similar vibes of navigating complex rules in smart ways over time.)

#siren survive the island #matchusayswords

[leviathan-supersystem]

Finally asking this cuz u might be one of the only ppl on tumblr who knows what I'm talking about but do you know about "apes"/the financial conspiracies surrounding gamestop and other "meme" stocks (bed bath n beyond, amc, etc.) post 2021? I always think of ur ideas about "fiction brain" wrt them cuz so much of it is this delusional qanon-esque "we're the protags/good guys so everyone's out to get us but everything will go our way in the end and all this convoluted cinematic secret-message coded bullshit makes total absolute sense cuz thats how it is in the movies" but no one on reddit knows what fiction brained means and no one on tumblr knows/cares about stocks or the weird cult that formed up after the meme stock frenzy unless they're also on reddit so I feel like there's no one to talk about the overlap 😫 TLDR I want so badly to hear your thoughts about it but assuming u dk what I'm talking about maybe check out r/gme_meltdown if u wanna see what it looks like when fiction brain makes ppl throw their whole lives away- extremely sad but also a fascinating and powerful example of how media completely distorts some people's views of reality...

definitely seems like fictionbrain might be affecting them, although i don't know for sure what specific work of fiction might be affecting them.

to be clear, there's a difference between fictionbrain and just being wrong and stupid and gullible- these guys could be the former, but until i can find evidence that they got this way by trying to learn about real life purely through fiction, i can't rule out the latter.

another concept i've had cooking in my brain that might be useful here is "reality shear"- when someone's worldview and reality come into conflict, and the person undergoing this experience either updates their worldview, or tries to ignore the inconvenient reality, or they just freak out and act like a deranged little weirdo. one of the three.

a big part of any given debate is trying to draw the conversation into territory where they experience reality shear, and move it away from territory where you experience reality shear. obviously also you should update and revise your worldview in response to the material facts until you experience as little reality shear as possible, but as we are merely human, it's unlikely that you'll be able to completely avoid it, no matter how nuanced and complex and empirically sound your worldview is you'll still occasionally encounter information that makes you go "well shit, don't know." and if your opponent successfully manages to draw the debate toward any of those subjects you're screwed.

anyways this got wildly off topic, but the concept of "reality sheer" has been bouncing in my head for a while in regard to like, debate tactics, and it seemed possibly more relevant to your example than fictionbrain (though fictionbrain may also be relevant)

[evelhak]

In regards to your ‘writer research’ post - do you think it’s possible to overdo it? How do you personally know when to stop, and consider the topic familiar enough to write?

I sometimes struggle if the activity takes place irl and not fantasy. I need to know locations, travel options and times between them, their overall background, vibe, etc. And in the end it’s like I’m planning my own trip down there :D I did get a few nice feedback words like ‘how did you describe it so well if you never been there’ but it can be overwhelming, and I had a few times that stories ended in that research phase because the scope of knowledge I deemed necessary became paralyzing.

I don't know if I will be much help for you in this, because my approach seems somewhat different. I don't think I've ever experienced the problem you mention, because I stay the hell away from anything that would require me to follow exact details as you mention. Timetables, distances, locations and means of travel all frankly make me want to put my head through a wall. I couldn't care less what those kinds of "hard facts" about reality are like, I write around them at all costs because they are not important to my stories. (If it is too important to leave vague, I will not be writing that story, for the most part.)

My style has always been to bend reality, which is why I pretty much always gravitate towards speculative fiction in writing. Apart from one realistic fiction book that I mildly detested writing, my fics are the next most reality bound thing I have written, and it's not really reality bound, because the source material is fantastical enough to allow some reality bending: things that wouldn't work as absolutely and consistently in reality have that power in the story's world. And I write it in a way that actively ignores factual details: technically my story is set in 2009-2011 so far but that's just a loose point of reference as long as it works for me. If I for example want a character to read a book that hadn't come out at the time, I just decide that in this version of reality it came out earlier, because why not? It's not like the background fabric of the story will ever be so detailed that it would tear from a book changing release date. You're not supposed to see the whole world outside the story's focus in such detail that something like that would affect the story.

So, my research is not about factual details, it's about principles. I basically just need to understand how the abstract rules behind things work, to be able to produce something. I don't care about replicating how any individual place on earth looks, I just care that I have seen enough places to be able to abstract the principles of how they might look similar and how they might look different, how the internal logic of their formation works, to then be able to create a new place from that foundation. When it comes to places, a quite loose understanding is often enough for me because it's just the stage for me, and I will bend it to whatever the story needs, I don't actually care about the place for its own sake. If it becomes dear to me it's because a character looked from this balcony over that forest when they discovered something about themselves, or something like that.

The principle is the same when I create characters, it's just that I require a much deeper understanding of how people work, because that's what all my stories are focused on. I want psychological realism on a much higher level. I don't need to understand sewer systems to write a story and only a really huge drive to tell a story about a character who lives in the sewer system could persuade me to research them.

Anyway, I understand enough about human psychology to be able to combine traits creatively and in a way that feels like more than a sum of its parts because I understand the principles behind them in a flexible way.

So when I'm doing research into any topic I need in the story, that's what I'm primarily looking for: a theoretical understanding, a foundation from which I can then create anything I need because I understand the rules, how they can be combined and where they can be broken as well. And I usually do read some actual theory other people have written, but a lot of the times I focus on reading people's experiences, talking to people with relevant experiences, and just observing people from the outside too, and then I abstract the theory that I need from that "database" of experiences that I've collected.

So I might read an actual parenting book if my character was going to have kids, but I would still focus on my own observations and talks with people who do have kids. The more complex the topic the more likely I would want scientific theory to contrast my observations with. But I wouldn't want to write it in a way that is supposed to represent a particular experience, I would want to create a unique experience that is nobody's experience, just like any individual person is, just fictional. It wouldn't represent how I would parent my kids, and it wouldn't represent how someone I know parents their kids, and it wouldn't represent millennial experience of parenting, or anything like that. It might have seeds of those things, and some people might relate to it and feel like it represents them, but that would be a by-product.

I don't think I've ever felt like I'm overdoing research, because the process happens so naturally to me. I dive into a topic, I gather my data from different sources and once my brain has reached the overall understanding it requires to match the level of detail that I'm going to want to be writing in, it just begins to create on its own. It's very intuitive for me. I seek to understand the "essence" of things, and then my brain just starts generating stuff from that understanding.

(Personally I think it's important that both abstract and concrete, real and fictional information goes into a writer's brain... It's just the same as an artist. You can generally tell when someone has only practised drawing from other drawings and not real life, and the same goes for practicing writing from other stories versus real life, but, I digress.)

However, I absolutely think it is possible to overdo research because everything is possible to overdo. In general I think if you feel like you can't tell what level of detail of understanding is enough, then you should probably take a good break from that project, because it sounds like you're losing perspective.

Not that I never lose perspective... Of course I have looked at a story of mine and realized it needs more or less detail about a certain topic. I guess I just don't "feel" it when I'm writing, or before it, because the level of detail I need to know is determined by the point of understanding where my brain starts creating. Sometimes I do have to tell my brain to slow down, that we should go back to do some more research before we write this particular thing... Usually my brain listens, haha.

In the end it's about balance. I sort of see it like photography: sometimes the background can be really blurry when it's a portrait, sometimes you have macro pictures of a raindrop, and sometimes a general view of a town where you can still see a lot of details is what you need.

Maybe if the problem is that you're not sure what level of detail of knowledge you need because you're losing sight of what the story is about, it could help going back to your title and premise. Is the knowledge of which olive oil this particular village in Italy uses on their famous Carbonara, a necessary level of knowledge in this story about a young lawyer falling in love on his vacation? Maybe, if the olive oil turns out to be a detail he uses to win a case later? What about if it's not plot relevant, even if the person he falls in love with is a cook? Probably not necessary, unless the characterization is somehow built around the person's taste in olive oil. It really just depends on the combination of functionality and your artistic vision what level of detail is enough.

Then there's also the option that you're right, maybe the story actually does need more detailed knowledge to work than is possible to require without first hand experience. If that's the case, then it has to do with what angle your story is written from. You can write a story that is set in a village in Italy without going to Italy, if the setting isn't the focus of the story. If you want to write a story about what life is really like in a village in Italy then I'd say you would have to have first hand experience. That's just a rule of thumb, though. If you were inspired by watching movies and documentaries of a certain place and wanted to write about it despite of not having been there, I'd say do it regardless if you want to. It might still turn out great or it might not... Regardless of that, the value could be in the experience too.

That's a lot of rambling... Don't know if any of that was helpful or just missed the mark completely. It's such a complex topic. And if you happen to be the kind of writer whose inspiration is driven by a detailed factual knowledge or with a desire to replicate things from real life, for example to give the reader a feeling as if they can really go to Venice through your book, or feel like they are sky-diving, or to go back to their childhood because you recreated the decade so accurately... then I am not the right person to help, because I don't have that talent. (Mine is completely based on making shit up.)

#writing

[n7spongy]

My Problem With How We View Shipping

Or: A cynical loser rants about how fictional people get more action than him.

Don’t get me wrong, I quite enjoy shipping. I’ve seen so much wonderful fanart, fanfics, and other fan-related pieces of media that result from the passion we insane fans have over our beloved characters. However, I think there’s a component to our obsession that makes us vulnerable to the harsh realities of romance. Obviously I’m sure you all know romance in fiction is nothing like in real-life, but that doesn’t mean you know that subconsciously and act like it’s true.

It’s just...I see this all the time. Many people I know in fandom circles who obsess over these fictional characters take real-life heartbreak so hard, and while I don’t want to blame their media obsessions for that, I think this is something both fans and shows would do well to remember:

Shipping is an idealized form of romance.

Take the Willow x Hunter ship (Huntlow) from The Owl House. It’s cute! It’s really cute! But the way we make it out to be is...too cute, and it’s indicative of how the Owl House fandom in particular feels this incredible ache to ship everyone with everyone. Just search any of MoringMark’s fancomics about them. They’re all so perfect and happy and optimistic. Hunter will always be dumb and awkward in his attempts to flirt but Willow will fall for him anyway.

I wish real life was that way.

This never happens. There’s never that perfect girl, that perfect situation of circumstances that leads two wonderful people into each other’s arms, finally feeling complete in the embrace of each other. Well, there *could* be, but the odds of that are so slim it’s best to act like there isn’t. We need to harden our shells, and accept the harsh truth:

Rejection happens, and it happens a lot. But that’s okay.

Hardly anyone succeeds on their first attempt, or their second, or their third. I’ve personally failed at least a dozen times. More than we like to admit, we’ve all ended up like Dipper over there, sitting alone in a world that goes on without our happiness. Everyone who’s ever gotten far on a path had to fail to know where that path even was.

So many times in our favorite shows, movies, games, books, etc. characters will succeed on their first or second attempt, and so it’s conditioned us to see that as the baseline for romance. I know this because that’s how I was. So many times in high school and college I met what I thought was the “perfect girl”. I found so many people I had everything in common with, who checked off all my boxes, who stimulated me in so many wonderful ways, and we had great friendships. Our friendships were *exactly* like what I saw on-screen: Star and Marco, Luz and Amity, Peter Parker and Mary Jane. But that never guaranteed anything. I was always rejected in the end.

I bring this up because, again, I see this same attitude all around me. I see it on the Reddit posts in how we squeal over tiny signs that a character is into another, when that could easily be a sign of a strong friendship (TV is often terrible at differentiating best friends of opposite sexes from romance). I see it on Discord from the text walls people write over which ship is going to happen. I see it on Tumblr with the angsty fanart we make over two lovestruck individuals venting their deepest emotions to each other only to finally confess and embrace. I see it on AO3, Fanfiction.net, and Wattpad with those same types of fanart in textual form.

Please know I am not criticizing any of these ways we show our passion, I’m just asking that when we do them, we consider how we may be affecting our thought processes. We can invest ourselves too much in these ships, and thus expect real romance to be the same. This makes us cynical, it makes us blame ourselves when things don’t go our way in reality. And thus, we escape further into fiction, into stories with people who just *get it right* somehow. That only increases the pain in a negative feedback loop. “Why can’t I be like Luz with Amity?” Because a writer’s room all gathered together to write a compelling story, and that’s not how reality is determined. It’s determined by how much we’re willing to fail to eventually succeed.

But its not entirely our fault, its partially the media we consume to blame. I appreciate Gravity Falls to show the realities of being rejected, and the need to stay strong and move on. I think other shows should normalize rejection and failure, not just in shipping, but in all aspects of life. Media is at its best when it inspires, and in our lives when failure is so common, I think this same media, which has raised so much of us, has a responsibility to teach us right. We should be better equipped to deal with heartbreak than those who aren’t in fandoms. It will allow us to fully appreciate when a relationship does succeed, both in fiction and in real life.

You will succeed, if you accept that you will fail first. Never stop trying.

“I’ve been so miserable since Wendy broke up with me that I thought my life was over. But you were right, I just needed to move on...” - Robbie

#shipping #gravity falls #the owl house #wendip #rejection #huntlow #dipper pines #wendy corduroy #hunter #willow park #robbie valentino #luz noceda #amity blight #lumity #if you cant tell i wrote this to come to terms with being rejected recently

[shiftersreality88]

"hearing"

When someone from your DR comes here to your CR, I've experienced you can hear their voice in your head like your own. For those experienced with witchcraft and paganism, its EXTREMELY similar to having a godphone, and those were the roots I came into reality shifting with. However with a godphone, I experienced more that gods talking in your head (at least.... loki. he's the only one I've seriously dealt with, and he's a shapechanger) sound like your own voice but aren't, and DR people have their own voices. I've also experienced that because you are shifting to a DR, basically a modified version of a fictional universe, sometimes things can be a little "to the left". They can sound or look very slightly different than they do canonically unless you script against that.

Now, let's talk about Hearing. "Hearing" is the phrase my circle of friends uses to discuss whether or not you can hear your DR people. Your hearing can "go out" or have trouble at times, its not a steady connection. If you can't hear your DR people it doesn't mean they aren't present, it simply means your hearing has gone out. Its been observed hearing can be affected the same was as your regular physical health- things that make it drop out include lack of sleep, too much stress, too much stimulation, being distracted and not in the moment, etc. Needless to say we have not discovered all the things that cause hearing to go out; sometimes it'll go out and we'll go down the checklist and get frustrated because we've done everything on the list to make sure we HAVE hearing but it'll disappear anyway.

I have a theory on how this could be affected by the Veil/ the Void. The Void is the phrase we use to describe the empty space between our world/our reality and their world/their reality. Think of it as a hallway with many doors to choose from. Travel time over far distances takes at least a few seconds, but they can pretty much jump around wherever they want, as far as between places in our reality (my DR people have visited my IRL friends with DR people and vice versa, theirs have come here before) and different realities.

Likewise, there is a door in your head that these DR people come through and when trying to "shift", aka get DR people to visit you here, its quite helpful to visualize the door in your head and to see it opening. The door in your head is a gate for them to enter and exit, and you have control the entire time. At anytime while DR people are around or when they're gone, you can choose to close that door if you feel anxious or need a break or etc. I have a lot of anxiety and a lot of trauma and sometimes I just need space and that's when I close my door and my boys understand that.

If you have any questions about this shit please ask (serious inquiries only)

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[justletmereadmycomics]

*staring off into space*

Technically, if timelines do in fact exist, it would invalidate many plot lines used in fiction in which the protagonists must go back in time to prevent change to the future. The reality of the situation would be that their timeline would stay the same, whilst a new timeline was created from that change in the “past” (which in in itself is just alteration of a timeline that started moving forward after the timeline the protagonist(s) originated from began, as well as being one that followed the same linear plot as the protagonists up until that point of change).

This also brings to question why the memories of the protagonist(s) and/or side and bg characters showed that ‘change’ in the first place, especially if the alteration directly affects the plot of a previous episode, book, etc. You’d assume their memories would fit that “change” due to their timeline being directly tinkered with, affecting the “current” situation (the plot the viewers are/were following) and causing them to make different decisions.

Following this, if the antagonists plan is to change the timeline so that the protagonists never existed, that would mess up a whole ton of shit including the antagonists plans and stuff. The protagonist(s) would stop existing in the past, them have never been in that situation in the first place thanks to their story being changed in a way to where they weren’t “interfering” with the antagonists plans. The antagonist(s) wouldn’t have fought the protagonist(s) in the first place (them not having existed), therefore giving them no reason to travel back in time and creating a paradox.

If the antagonist(s) and protagonist(s) end up returning to a “future” (the current plot line being shown to the viewers) where the “changes” made in the “past” were in effect, that would be a different timeline and would therefore have doubles of the protagonist(s) and antagonist(s) (unless they’re all dead), creating an instability in that timeline thanks to trans-lineal counterparts interacting with the same timeline at the same point in time as the other. “Our” version of the protagonist(s) being in what would technically count as the future, thanks to the other protagonist(s) timeline having started before “ours”.

You still following me? No? Okay then. I’ll keep talking anyways.

If, in fact, the protagonist(s) go back to un-fuck up the past, there’s no guarantee that they’ll actually be in their original timeline once they return to the “present” (or for now, the future). The timeline they came from may be continuing without them, whilst this one they’ve entered is almost identical to their original where the only difference is that some random man had pancakes for breakfast instead of waffles. Each choice made creates a new timeline, and there’s a high chance of the protagonist(s) entering another alternate timeline and being completely unaware.

#justletmetalk #alternate timelines #rambles #ramblings #long post #I got all this from the Undertale fandom by the way #I am not okay #Cool shit #infodump #Undertale #Alternate dimensions and universes are a whole other can of worms