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saccharinerose · 1 year
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SJM fae are to fae what Twilight vampires are to vampires
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apostatement · 11 months
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Twilight is real bad for the exploitation of indigenous peoples, the absolute mormon style racism of immortality whitening skin, the blatant purity culture, the anti abortion narrative, and we can acknowledge all that while at the same time remembering Carlisle as an extremely fascinating vampire character and also a DILF 
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spaceshipkat · 11 months
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i just saw some people at my college say that stephenie meyer and sjm are the queens of literature and they should write a novel series together.
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darkcrowprincess · 2 months
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Controversial Opinion:
there are zero benefits to being a twilight Vampire. You can't sleep or eat anymore. Not even to mix blood with anything because food automatically tastes like ash. The only way to avoid killing humans is to eat animals. And it still sucks because it will never fully satisfy you. Your always a hair trigger away from killing someone because the blood thirst is that bad. You can't fly or turn into a bat. Which is one of my favorite things about vampires the flying and the turning into cute bats.
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The only things that can kill you is this tribe in Forks that can turn into big wolves or the vampire mafia ripping you to pieces and burning the remains. If you live near said tribe in Forks you end up ruining their lives because your very presence activates their wolf defense mechanism. You look like an idiot in the sunlight and sparkle like a disco ball. You have to constantly be careful of your strength because you can easily kill something with a flick of your finger. When your not hunting for blood your constantly either bored or having to pretend to be a high school kid forever? And you can only have sex with other vampires because you can easily kill humans. Like what benefits do you get from being a vampire forever? Being an immortal cold mannequin were your family dies in front of you, and your stuck with the most boring toxic person forever? No thank you.
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Stephanie Meyer just sucked out all the gothic emo tim burton fun things about being a vampire and I won't have it. Thank you Smeyer for forever adding your sucky ideas to Vampire lore. 🧛‍♂️
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(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)
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magicianpanache · 2 years
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Women: Madonnas or Whores
In Midnight Sun, it’s revealed that Edward absolutely despises almost all the women he meets. The exceptions are Esme, Bella, Alice and Angela. The others, like Rosalie, Jessica, Lauren, the waitress in Port Angeles and Siobhan, he spends the book hating on.
While looking at the list, we easily spot some points in common between the members of those two groups.
Esme, Bella, Alice and Angela are all Madonnas. They are all perceived as unsexual beings. Edward clearly says that he never heard Esme and Carlisle have sex (as opposed to Rosalie and Emmett). Angela doesn't really have romance on her mind that much, and when she does it's a passing fancy about a short guy in her class, indicating she isn't shallow. He can’t read Bella’s mind, but he’s surprised to hear she finds him attractive, despite Bella spending half of Twilight describing him as a god. In fact, he’s offended on Bella’s behalf that Mike thinks about them having sex.
This makes all of those women worthy of protection and esteem.
The other women are whores, which makes them deserving of Edward’s scorn. Their crime? Enjoying having sex, in Rosalie's case, or gasp thinking about guys they find attractive in Jessica and Lauren's cases.
Edward, being a man of his time, associates moral traits to a woman's libido (or lackthereof), which I think is also informed by his clear demisexuality. The Madonnas are selfless, kind, maternal and unshallow women who must be protected by the protectors of the coven since they cannot protect themselves (preys), while the whores prey on men, are selfish, independent, materialistic and shallow (predators). Edward cannot reconcile both parts in a woman, which is why his relationship with Rosalie is terrible while his relationship with Bella is hanging by a thread of denial.
Edward has no place for female protectors. We see that from the fact that Edward believes Alice found the family with him and Emmett gone because the protectors weren’t there. He spares no thoughts to the fact that Rosalie completely considers herself Emmett’s protector because of his recklessness in the James encounter. No, Rosalie cannot be a protector, because she's a woman.
Alice is the notable exception. Because of her gift, Edward considers her a protector of their coven, just like he is. However, her protection is mental, not physical. In fact, Alice is a tiny woman, which makes her independence acceptable: she's still in need of physical protection.
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starlight-bread-blog · 8 months
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"I've stalked you to protect you against your consent".
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macgyvertape · 10 months
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My roommate and I got super trashed last night and watched Twilight Breaking Dawn part 1, really just to snark on the wedding and other twilight style weddings on youtube.
Anyway In the midst of a lot of cringey wedding toasts Bella's dad gets up and says "Edward will be a good husband. I know this because I'm a cop and I know things" to which I burst out laughing because of how unintentionally ironic it is.
Like Edward's a shitty romantic partner so of course a cop would think he'd be a good husband (look up 40% cops to learn more)!
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gameguy20100 · 1 year
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You know I joked that Feligami is Kagami’s twilight phase. But the parallels are ridiculous. 
Edward stalks Bella and watches her sleep. Felix stalks Kagami and kidnaps her.
Edward is constantly saying how much he wants to kill her. Felix only lets Kagami live because she’s a senti.
Edward has a very unhealthy advantage in power over Bella because he’s a vampire. Because he has the peacock, Felix can snap Kagami away whenever he likes and Kagami is powerless to protect herself.
Edward badmouths and abuses Jacob because he’s Bella’s friend. Felix does the same to Marinette and Adrien. 
Yet we’re supposed to see their actions as romantic, not deeply creepy and misogynistic. 
Did they hire Stephanie Myer? 
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lecoindecachou · 5 months
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Probably an unpopular opinion but to me Twilight is way more reprehensible than Fifty Shades when it comes to portraying abuse as romance. Yes, Fifty Shades is a garbage can fire, but it is also very much aimed at adults. Adults who presumably (though not always, obviously) have enough life experience to understand the difference between reality and fiction. Like, I'd be really surprised if even 5% of Fifty Shades fans (who by all intents and purposes seemed to be mostly middle aged women) ended up getting into bad bdsm relationships bc of these books/movies. I would not at all be surprised to find out a lot of the pre-teens who read Twilight ended up in toxic relationships in their teens because the media they were consuming at the time (and to be fair it wasn't just Twilight) was telling them this was what love looked like.
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styxhuntress · 1 year
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lilisouless · 1 year
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Alright, Christmas is over so it’s time to hate again
In this house we hate:
Hardin Scott
Jacob Black and any werewolf who imprints on babies
Christian Grey
Ares Hidalgo & Raquel Mendoza (“ay mi mami trabaja, que vergüenza” púdrete niña)
Massimo Torricelli
Milk crate boy from Tall girl
Luke Castellan (we appreciate him as a villain though)
Sergei Benznikov
H de héroe 🤮 (quien secuestra un perrito 😡?) Babi y también el Pollo ese
Noah Flynn, Marco Peña and specially Lee Flynn
Emily Cooper and Gabriel
BONUS: not a bad or outright toxic person as the above but: Xavier Thorpe (Tyler ONLY is saved because i understand his toxic tantrum was a facade)
Of course this doesn’t mean i can’t be friends with people who likes or loves them. Just that know that i will bash them to dead from time to time.
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therealvinelle · 1 year
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What are your thoughts on the twilight TV show they are planning to make?
No thoughts. I'm sure it will be terrible, but the thing is... I don't actually care. At all. I just hope that if the show does get picked up, then the new fans will stay on tiktok so I won't have to deal with them.
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amy-the-fairy · 8 months
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If you want to know why any romance novels with an abusive love interest ever become popular just look in what character the self insert shipper change their fave
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lea-andres · 1 year
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Hey, I saw your reblog asking about whether the Twilight series could do anything to make amends for the wrongful impact they've had on the Quileute Tribe and the answer is just very plainly: No.
I, personally, am not a part of the Quileute Tribe, but I am indigenous (Gitxsan/Nisga'a), and although it would be much better if the words came from the mouth of an actual member of the Tribe, I feel it is my job as a fellow indigenous person to explain why there isn't a way to rectify the misdeeds that Twilight has done.
I'll try to make it simple and short so as to not take up too much of your time:
Even if every single penny that the series makes goes to the Quileute Tribe, and there isn't a single bit of misinformation to be seen or heard, and the Tribe is portrayed in a way that actively promotes the Tribe and its peoples, the deep impact that the original series had can never be erased or washed away. The cultural and monetary effects that the series had on the Tribe is irreparable. In no way can they erase the grief and pain that the Tribe endured, and if they go through with this then it is just another mockery of the Tribe and its people.
Not to mention, there is a deep racism ingrained within Twilight, and if they took that out then it would no longer be Twilight anymore, which is the exact reason that this series can in no way rectify any of the problems it has created. The foundation is based on racism and misinformation, and if you take the foundation away, then everything falls.
TLDR; In no way can the new Twilight series make up for the misdeeds it has done to the Quileute Tribe and its people because the damage that was originally done on the Tribe is irreparable.
👍 Had a feeling it'd be something to that effect, but I frequently desire to know the Why along with the answer itself.
Thank you for your concise explanation, Anon. I'm sorry about what Smeyer and similar thoughtless media has done, and I hope other content creators learn better and do better in the future.
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magicianpanache · 2 years
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Edward Cullen’s Mad, Mad World
Part 1: The Origins
To understand Edward Cullen, it’s important to go back to his human life, which gives us a very interesting insight into his motivations and way of thinking.
First with the facts: Edward Cullen was born in Chicago in 1901 from a well off family, his father being a lawyer, and his mother taking care of him. In his adolescence, like many other teenagers his age, he dreams of going to war. He claims to have stayed for his mother, but he was only 17 (a minor) when the war ended. His dream ends when he catches the Spanish flu in 1918 and Carlisle changes him into a vampire while he’s on his dying bed.
This seems like little information, but it gives us a lot of information about what kind of person he would become.
While very close to his mother, he and his father are not. In fact, in Midnight Sun, while he mentions his mother a few times with fondness, he only spares a thought to his father when remembering he died of the influenza. The fact he jumps quickly to seeing Carlisle as a father (within the year of his transformation) is telling.
The fact he also mentions or thinks about exactly 0 friends or other family members suggests that Edward was also a lonely child, who, like Bella, took refuge in books. This explains his romanticism and why he took to the government’s wartime propaganda so well, despite being in America, a much more isolationist nation than those in Europe. We can deduce he read the newspaper and saw the adverts and short stories that were omnipresent, from the time he was 13 year old until he was 17, the years that really formed his way of thinking and his sexuality.
Those adverts often portrayed Britain and France as a maiden in need of defense, calling for the population (especially young men) to be part of the war effort. I believe this is the start of his separating people into three groups: protectors, predators and prey. Young Edward internalized those roles, and decided he must become a protector, and the best way to do that is, of course, to join the army to protect young women.
This propaganda also comes with a particular attitude toward women.
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Contrary to what many people might guess, the attitude towards womanhood and marriage was not static across time, until the 20th century, after which feminism happened and we became the enlightened people we are today.
Without doing a whole dissertation about it, in the Victorian Era, women began to be seen as paragons of morality, as opposed to evil temptresses of earlier times. Marriages also started to shift from a strictly economic and social arrangement, to also include (gasp) love and respect. Passion and sexuality would follow in the late 1910s and twenties as something to include in a marriage, but were not yet a necessity. Edward grew up with the conflict of nature of women’s sexuality being disputed.
This brings us back to the propaganda Edward’s life must’ve been full of: America’s propaganda, in books just as much as adverts, often focused on women’s sexuality and moral purity.
This propaganda split women into two groups, being at the base of Edward’s madonna/whore complex. There are the moral women, virtuous and self-sacrificing in poverty while they wait for their man to come back, and the immoral shrews, selfish, ruined by wealth, materialism and often drunk (aka submitting to their base urges).
Remind you of anyone ?
Edward grew up high class in the city, where gender segregation had in great part broken down because of the influx of young people in the city in need of work, without their parent’s supervision. This means he would’ve mixed with the higher class “ruined by wealth”, just as much as the lower class “drunks”. As a teenager, he wouldn’t have found the complexity in their characters, assuming their desires or impulses were because they were “lesser” women. Of course, his mother is exempt from this judgment.
This is important because it means that Edward grew up in a time before women’s sexuality was not accepted as a natural part of things (an acceptance which really happened in the twenties).
What can we conclude ?
Human, he already lived in an imaginary world, surrounded by books (and his mother). He gets changed very young, young enough that his vision of people is still very one dimensional. This means that once he gets transformed, Edward already sees women through his madonna/whore prism, and offers himself up as their protector. His few friends and family are also probably dead, explaining why he latched on to Carlisle so hard.
Join me next time as I discuss Edward’s early days as a vampire.
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