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chimerazodiac · 2 months
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What if Teen Wolf just replaced Scott's character with Danny? Like Danny goes wandering through the woods one night for whatever reason and gets bit. He doesn't want to go to Jackson because he's freaking out and it's Jackson so he goes to the one person that won't sent him to mental hospital after hearing the story of what happened in the woods. Stiles Stilinski, who he knows slightly better because Stiles' best friend, Scott is quickly getting more popular (and more distant) since he started dating the new girl, Allison (who is popular because she is also Lydia's new best friend). And since Scott is more distant now, Stiles quickly agrees and the two become friends.
(+ Danny teasing Stiles about Derek)
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dirtbagdefender · 1 year
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discrepancies in the teen wolf movie (1/?)
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kiraxcute · 4 months
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Reminder that Allison is canonically still a teenager and Scott is in his thirties but Sterek is p*dophilia right?
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mychemicalrachel · 1 year
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Full disclosure, I have not seen the Teen Wolf movie and no I do not plan on it. I have caught a few things through the magic of tumblr and I had some thoughts. So if everything I saw is accurate; Derek has a kid Eli (basically a Stiles replacement since Dylan wasn’t in the movie. Also, nobody knows who his mother is?) and Derek dies, and he leaves his kid to Scott and Allison. Am I right so far? I’ve seen a few posts entertaining the idea of Stiles being Eli’s other dad, fix-its that have him resurrecting/saving Derek in some capacity. And so it got me thinking of my own version of how I would fix this dumpster fire and like,
What if Stiles was not Eli’s dad?
No no no, hear me out, okay?
Derek had Eli with some one night stand or whatever, it’s not important. She’s not in the picture but neither is Stiles. Stiles is just the one that got away, he’s the guy Derek has been pining over for the past fifteen years, and nothing more. Stiles finally got away from the supernatural shitshow and Derek is not going to be the one to drag him back into it just because he has feelings for him.
But Stiles is still the closest thing Derek has ever had to family and it makes sense for Derek to entrust his family with Stiles’ family. So what if he left Eli in the care of John? (hIS NAME IS JOHN, FIGHT ME ON THIS.) And John, he kind of adores the kid, right? Of course when Derek dies (because he does) John takes Eli in just as he promised he would.
But John is getting older. Eli is a handful because he is just like Stiles. John has to tell Stiles eventually what happened and he really could use some help trying to wrangle a grieving teenager, so he calls Stiles.
Stiles is FURIOUS when he finds out what happened. He hasn’t been in contact with Scott for years because he realized what a piece of shit Scott was, but the fact that Scott didn’t even call when everything was happening makes him angry. The fact that they let Derek die?? More than angry. Angry enough to kill somebody. But when he meets Eli, all that anger disappears. Eli, who is this weird mix of Derek and Stiles, who is mourning the loss of his only parent, his only family. He knows what it’s like to lose a parent, but even after his mom died, he always had his dad. Eli doesn’t have that so Stiles makes it his responsibility to become that figure for him. Not his dad because nobody could replace Derek, but a guardian.
He moves back to town, he bonds with Eli, and in his spare time he maybe starts to explore the possibilities of necromancy. Death in a place like Beacon Hills has never been permanent– Peter and now Allison are proof of that. He doesn’t tell anybody because he doesn’t actually plan on bringing Derek back, it’s just a thought that keeps him from falling apart entirely. During this time, he realizes not only his feelings for Derek, but Derek’s feelings for him. He wishes he could have just a few minutes with Derek, wishes he could go back in time and redo everything. Maybe he would have stayed in Beacon Hills, or he would have asked Derek to leave with him. And time travel, yeah that’s a possibility, too, but time is a fickle bitch and Stiles isn’t willing to gamble with it. What if he messes something up and erases Eli from existence?
In the end, bringing Derek back is kind of an accident.
Years have passed and Eli is healing, Stiles is healing– they even manage to fix the jeep together because symbolism. Stiles is going through some old journals or something of Deaton’s and he finds something that looks kind of promising (something about true love being the one thing more powerful than death or something equally as cheesy) and he’s reading it out loud and it just happens. No fanfare, no sparks, almost like it’s not magic at all. One second, Stiles is alone, and the next, Derek is there– older than the last time Stiles saw him, just as beautiful. There’s some panic because what the fuck, the last thing Derek remembers is the fire and being so sure he was going to die and thinking if only I could see Stiles one more time and now he’s here, standing in front of Stiles– also older than the last time Derek saw him, and just as beautiful. But after the panic, there’s some kissing and some crying and some long awaited love confessions, and by the time they go home, Stiles still isn’t sure exactly what happened, what he did, what the consequences might be, but he’s got his arm around Derek’s waist and the burn of Derek’s stubble on his lips and Derek is alive so nothing else fucking matters.
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lunar-eclipse-tales · 6 months
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Can we just talk about this scene in season 2?
This is right after Scott forced Derek to bite Gerard. Not only did Scott take advantage of Derek by using his body to further his own plan but he made Derek relive one of the worst traumas of his life.
Let’s talk about how Scott lied to everyone including his best friend. He didn’t tell them about his plan. He just went about things while leaving them all in the dark. He didn’t even tell Stiles who is supposed to be like his brother. They tell each other EVERYTHING and Scott chose not to tell him this. Why? Probably because Stiles would have told him it was wrong. Even though Stiles and Derek don’t see eye to eye on things he still respects him enough to not bring up his trauma and even defends him against Chris by calling Chris out about Kate killing Derek’s family. So yes, he would have ripped Scott a new one for this.
Derek who has been taken advantage of before in his life which led to his family dying. Kate literally SAed him when he was a CHILD and she was an ADULT. She manipulated him to thinking that she loved him so he would give up details about his family so she could kill them. He lost his entire family and pack because someone took advantage of him and he blamed himself for it.
On top of that he was still getting over Paige. Paige who he was in love with who he killed because her body rejected the bite. He killed his first love because she was dying from something he had set in motion. That’s probably why he was so standoffish with Isaac, Erica, and Boyd because he didn’t want to go through that again. Because he had seen what happens when someone rejects the bite. He knew how it felt to lose pack and family. Losing Paige was one of the biggest traumas of his life hence his blue eyes.
So round about back to this scene when Scott LIED to everyone and MADE Derek bite Gerard. Gerard’s body rejected the bite because of Scott replacing his pills with mountain ash. The look of horror on Derek’s face as Gerard starts leaking that black goo. The look of him reliving not just his first trauma of killing Paige but also the trauma of Kate taking advantage of him and using his body to further her own plans.
Scott did the exact same thing in my eyes as Kate did. He used Derek’s body to further his own plans. He lied to him and acted like he was part of his pack getting Derek to start trusting him and even though Gerard was the bad guy he forced Derek to relive one of his biggest traumas.
The look on Derek’s face as he watched Gerard literally breaks my heart because that is the look of someone reliving all of his pain. The pain of killing Paige, the pain of being SAed and taken advantage of, the pain of losing his family because of that.
Something like this is unforgivable to me. But Derek being the good guy that he is still tries to help Scott time and time again after this.
Scott doesn’t deserve someone like that in his life because Scott is selfish and only cares about something if it benefits him. He puts on the good guy act making people think he’s trying to be the better person. But his actions speak a completely different story.
I just want to hug Derek and pack him away so he stops getting hurt. 😭🖤
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super-hoech · 1 year
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It's some kind of poetic justice that the thing people are talking about the most about the Teen Wolf movie, the part that's left such a big impact, that's had such an intense reaction, isn't the Scott and Allison reunion storyline as Jeff and Posey intended and wanted, it's Derek Hale's death.
Once again, the lead character and his story is overshadowed by someone else. If Jeff thinks that by finally getting rid of the one remaining character that was more loved than the lead, that people would finally "watch for the right reasons" now, then he was dead wrong. Because there's no chance of any future sequels happening now. The few who were watching will become even fewer now that the fan favourite is gone.
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ambear9 · 1 year
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This is the best tiktok ive ever seen 😂💀
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lycoperdales · 3 months
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Is Scott a hero just because he’s a protagonist?
Okay so I’ve pulled an all nighter just reading teen wolf meta after meta (because I am obsessed and have issues) and a common theme was that Scott was a bad hero because heroes sacrifice themselves and Scott didn’t do that.
But why is Scott labelled as a hero in the first place?
Teen wolf wasn’t a marvel series about a boy with powers trying to be a superhero. It was about a him trying to regain control over his life.
He had debilitating asthma but decided that it would not stop him from being an athlete.
We was attacked in the woods and turned into something unrecognisable but still fought for the right to have a regular teenage experience.
He was defensive over Derek’s new betas and Jackson because he knew that they’d never be able to experience a normal life ever again.
He had a month long mental breakdown for not being able to save the chimeras while his body was once again falling apart on him.
He goes through the process of hating being a werewolf for changing his life, to accepting it, to defending his right, and the right of other supernaturals, to live.
Have y’all seen the werewolf movies that teen wolf references? The entire premise of all those movies is that a young man is turned against his will, loses control and kills a loved one, then spends the rest of the movie trying decide whether life like that is worth living at all.
The only time he actually assumes that hero role, is when it’s pushed onto him. Like in season one where Stiles gets mad that Scott didn’t prevent the Sheriff from being hit by a car, or in season 3A when he HAS to break the mountain barrier or their parents literally die.
Scott just wanted to live his life bro, is that really so bad?
(I could also talk about how Scott does in fact sacrifice himself but that’s for a later date)
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fairytalegumiho · 1 year
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Okay!!!!!!!!
I'm a poc.
I can't stress this enough. I'm gonna lose my mind if I see another post about "you are a racist if you don't like Scott McCall". I don't really hate him, he is just not my top fav character.
The trope I hate the most in ensemble cast is-character not being called out or not facing the consequences because of their decisions or the things they do. This perfectly applies to Scott McCall.
He is perfectly ok with killing Peter if it meant he doesn't become a werewolf.
He is perfectly ok with Gerard being dead if it meant that his mother is safe from the threats by Gerard.
But no one says anything on this. Everyone just keeps saying he is a morally goody goody boy which he isn't.
If it is meant to be character development then people should agree that Scott is not perfect which no one addresses in the show.
He is a teenager. Of course he makes stupid decisions but everyone treats him like he is some kinda god in the show that it's very hard to treat him like a normal teenager.
He is not supposed to abuse Isaac.
He is not supposed to force Derek against his will to bite Gerard.
He is not supposed to let Derek die and immediately kiss his back from dead girlfriend.
He is not supposed to say "maybe they had a reason to do it" and honestly everyone that supports this statement is sick to the core. If anything Derek has every reason to be outright angry and kill every living Argent but he doesn't do that but you know what he does? Safely drops his enemy's daughter at her house. And everyone wonders why Derek is a fan favourite next to Stiles.
He is not supposed to guilt trip Stiles for a pure act of self defence.
I can go on and on for the reasons why Scott isn't my fav character but his race is not one of them. I also very recently got to know that he is a poc but he is not my fav character since long back.
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hedwig221b · 9 months
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Scott makes the best villain because he's normally super nice, but that cruelty is innate in him!! He even tells Derek that the Hales deserved to die back in season 1. There's so much potential for very casual "anyone who isn't friends with me is the enemy" energy there.
The sheriff & Scott - I 100% don't think the sheriff is the best parent to Stiles, and I think it slips out in moments where he praises Scott over Stiles or says that Stiles gets into trouble whereas Scott is more reliable. I think that contributes to why Scott looooves when authority figures praise him (the sheriff & Deaton) vs authority figures who don't (Derek & Peter.)
You're so right! Say it louder for the people in the back!
We discovered Scott's true purpose and that's villainy. The flavour of his "I know better than everyone what's right and wrong" is chef's kiss.
Scott's general attitude towards Derek is a part of my dislike toward him. Like I'm sorry he's the child of a divorce but Derek legit has no one except an estranged sister and an insane uncle. His family was brutally murdered in one of the worst ways possible right in front of his eyes. I don't know how I'm supposed to root for the person who tells people their family (including little kids!) deserved to be murdered for the sole reason of existing. And don't get me started on the whole biting Gerard thing.
On the second point. The creators of the show really had the father of another character slap Scott on the shoulder and say "welp, you're the main character so I'm going to support YOU and not my traumatized kid with PTSD who actually needs my support because fuck him". I get it Scott's a good boy and a hero but come on.
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mylifestiles · 1 year
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I think what I hate most about the Teen Wolf movie is that there were at least three instances where Scoot was parenting Eli and basically stealing formative moments from Derek in an attempt to endear the audience to an Eli and Scoot relationship and prime us to accept Scoot adopting Eli….
Crime #1: growling in Eli’s face to get him to transform??? What dude? How does that even work when Eli faints at the sight of a transformation? And if it’s that easy then Eli should have transformed anytime Derek flashed his eyes. It’s so messed up because Derek would have LOVED to be there for his first transformation, even just partial, but it was ripped from him bc Scoot wanted to be Mr. Alpha badass.
And no, I don’t think Derek guiding Eli through his first beta shift makes it better because Derek should have had the opportunity to guide him from his very first shift and help him maintain that shift so he could do it at will.
And don’t try to tell me it was necessary because super strong and fast alpha wolves should be able to carry fifteen year old scrawny boys.
And super strong and fast alpha werewolves should be able to outrun their half dead ex girlfriend without breaking a sweat.
And don’t get me started on Derek being injured. Actually I will get started!
when you consider Derek was originally hurt bc Scoot didn’t just go after Allison with his fast werewolf speed or sniff her out with his super werewolf nose tells you all you need to know about Scoot and his connection to his werewolf. he won’t be a great wolf teacher BECAUSE HE DOESNT KNOW SHIT. And I am blaming him (for the reasons above) for Derek being injured in the first place, so Scott set the whole stealing Eli’s first transformation from Derek thing into motion.
Crime #2: Derek is basically begging Eli to practice with him, but Scoot is the one who gets to play with Eli?? No way. That’s stupid. I reject it
Crime #3: DEREK DIDNT GET TO WATCH ELI PLAY OR MAKE THE WINNING SHOT??? After he convinced coach to give him some time on the field?? Blasphemous.
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING he was only prevented from doing so bc of some stupid shit that didn’t even really involve him?? Like none of that shit was his business???
It’s like Jeff is trying to make Derek seem like a bad parent who doesn’t know how to help his own son and Scoot is a natural born parenting genius. He posits all these moments of good parenting but gifts them to Scoot instead of Derek. Derek is trying and trying and instead of having even one scene where Derek and Eli aren’t being standoffish and frustrated, Jeffery attempts to give us some easy as pie, natural, buddy-buddy relationship with Scoot and Eli.
we were given crumbs for Derek and Eli’s relationship and it’s sick, really.
And I will never forgive Scoot for being tongue deep with Allison THE MOMENT Derek is BURNED TO DEATH (a crime punishable by life in prison)and RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS GRIEVING SON (have some class! You’re thirty or whatever!)
There are so many more crimes in this movie but I’m trying not to remember the movie at all, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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homemadesterekpie · 1 year
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omg i never shared this convo i had with my friend when i was reading Black Tourmaline lol
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kiraxcute · 6 months
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Reasons why Scott McCall is the worst character on Teen Wolf
He's a fucking moron
He becomes obsessed with Allison after like a day of knowing her
Told Derek to his face that the Hales deserved to die
Got over Chris almost killing him because????
Almost let Derek die because he took his sweet time getting a bullet
Said that the hunters were nicer than Derek, keep in mind Kate groomed Derek and r*ped him and then murdered nearly his entire family
Let Lydia kiss him knowing Stiles had a crush on her and "forgot" to ask her if she liked Stiles
Tried to emotionally blackmail Allison by sending her pictures of them together
Hurt Jackson
Hurt Danny and tried to play the victim even after Stiles said everybody likes Danny and would hate Scott
Was completely selfish for the first two seasons
Made Derek bite Gerard, yes Scott and Deaton had messed with his medication but Derek was literally terrified of biting Gerard.
Threatened Jackson into taking Allison to the dance.
Whined every fucking minute when something didn't go his way
Accused Derek of murder and didn't apologize???? Like Stiles was the one who apologized and even kept Derek hidden.
Tried to keep Derek from creating betas, ignored that Erica and Isaac accepted the bite for a reason.
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exposewolf13257 · 1 year
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This asshole Sick in the head saying Im carrying the Teenwolf franchise like TF no!! The Movie was absolutely Not Anything but good… Its nothing like the Show, You saying this Franchise making DOB doesn’t exist and saying I carry the movie When You absolutely done nothing but Posts nudes on Onlyfans. Jealousy is what Posey is thinking because He wants to be better but your not posey
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