#anti ragnarok

[abby118]

yes..yes I do

#loki #2011-2013 loki supremacy #og loki supremacy #thor 1 #the avengers #thor the dark world #og loki #this is loki #loki my beloved #we all miss you #anti loki series #anti loki show #anti ragnarok #please give him back

[loveloki555]

Why Thor: Ragnarok is remake and doesn't fit to other movies of Thor

I will talking only about chronology in this post. Hela shows ''true history'' of Asgard. Well, but we have one problem. We watched Thor and Thor: Dark World. This both movies are the denial of Hela's words.

The frescoes show the winning couple. Odin and his daughter conquering the world. Look at Odin. A white, senile beard… interesting… because we saw what Odin looked like over a thousand years earlier at the time of Loki's birth.

Here later with both sons.

And here as King of Asgard when Thor and Loki are grown men.

The war with Jotunheim was in 965 AD.

And Odin looked completely different at that time than he did in 2011-2013.

Next thing… is the case of Borr and the war with Malekith.

5,000 thousand years ago, Borr was still the king of Asgard and fought against the Dark Elves. Interesting thing, his heir is not with him. Odin is not present during this key battle. He seems to truly believe that his father defeated Malekith.

Why isn't Odin present during this battle? We have two options… and they are related to age. Either Odin was too young to fight battles (Asgardians do not have children during battle, Mr. Taika Waititi! If Loki saw that scene with his mother, he would tear your head off!) or he was a very young man who was just old enough to be regent during his father's absence… which would make him roughly the age of Thor and Loki in Thor (2011).

However, both situations quite exclude the possibility of Odin being an old man with an unstoppable desire for power and an adult daughter.

Even assuming that Borr died quickly after this battle and Odin already had a teenage/adolescent daughter… that still doesn't fill the gaps. Because Odin was not the old man shown in the frescoes. And if he had access to the fountain of youth, he would use it again rather than allow Hela to be released?

Failure to solve the problem of Hela also puts the events in Thor 1 in a strange twist. Odin actually believes that it's time for Thor to be king. Why? He put off Odinsleep, Frigga really thought he might not wake up from this. He probably also realized that his strength was weakening. And… he didn't tell any of his sons… when I die, your bloodthirsty half-sister will suddenly appear and want to kill you? What kind of ruler does this?

My conclusion : Thor Ragnarok is remake.

We see the actual history of Asgard… up to 2015… where Age of Ultron still honors this timeline.

Overall timeline of Thor 1, Avengers, Thor Dark World, (in the meantime movies related to Avengers like Winter Soldier or Iron Man 3) and Avengers: Age of Ultron. After that, we never see any further events. I would also like to point out that Thanos in Guardians of Galaxy and Thanos from Infinity War are two different characters. The last time we see Thanos from Guardians of Galaxy is in the scene with the gauntlet at the end of Age of Ultron. Thanos in Infinity War is nothing like the previous Thanos.

Well, Thor is probably still looking for those stones, and Loki is preparing a surprise for Thanos in their universe.

The further timeline, starting with Ragnarok, has completely different events and one could even say a different universe.

#mcu #anti ragnarok #loki odinson #loki #loki of asgard #thor the dark world #thor 2011 #thor ragnarok #meta analysis #mcu meta #mcu critical #marvel meta #anti taika waititi

[azural83]

It's such a shame that loki never made an appearance after the dark world:/

#how do you fuck up a character this bad #anti mcu #anti ragnarok #loki show critical #loki show criticism #anti loki show #anti loki series #mcu critical #mcu criticism #mcu salt

[gloriousburden]

although i am very critical of ragnarok/infinity and don’t take them as canon, i must admit that he was beautiful in these scenes and we so deserved scenes of our loki in blue lighting like this. sort of reminds me of the scene with the other in avengers 2012. forgive me my beloved mutuals and oomfs it’s not what it looks like

#loki #loki laufeyson #loki odinson #loki mcu #anti ragnarok #anti infinity war #og loki supremacy

[galaxythreads]

yeah. um. it was your job to write a SEQUEL TO THE FIRST TWO FILMS

#anti ragnarok #dude #what #i can't even #these words came out of his mouth by choice #sdlkfjsdlkfjsdf

[asgard-pics]

Putting some of the ones I edited today into a post

#editing ragnarok <3 #Asgard #anti ragnarok

[lokisaves]

#thor #thor 4 #thor love and thunder #anti taika waititi #anti chris odinson #anti ragnarok #fuck this franchise #let it burn #loki

[midgardianqueenreturns]

As much as I dislike Thor: Love and Thunder, I have to give it credit. Ever since it came out, I’ve noticed a lot more people being critical of Ragnarok in retrospect. It is now much more acceptable to criticize Ragnarok (and its characterization of Thor) compared to several years ago. When Love and Thunder was first announced, I feared it would further solidify Ragnarok as the definitive Thor version, but it looks like it is doing the opposite. There was a silver lining to Love and Thunder after all. Am I being petty? Yes.

#anti thor love and thunder #anti Thor 4 #Thor love and Thunder salt #anti love and thunder #Thor Love and Thunder Crit #Thor Love and Thunder Critical #Anti Ragnarok #Anti Thor Ragnarok #Anti Thor 3

[valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn]

The series is so obviously rewritten from an unrelated script. It really shows it's lack of creativity and awareness in the TVA entire presentation. Like, sure, they get away with pushing Loki around because he's played by Tom Hiddleston but stop think. Could you imagine the TVA pushing around any of the Egyptian gods or Surtur these huge beings being collared and dragged along? There's just so many powerful and big creatures in Marvel and we're expected to believe humans with sticks take them on?

It's unimaginative to the extreme but let's not forget Mikey literally said this: "That's what was exciting to me, as a writer, to take something so magical and just make it utterly soulless." (x)

They wouldn't have done it to those gods because the only way a series like 'Loki' works is if he's the one being thrown around. Put any other character in his shoes and that's abuse and mistreatment, do it to a character you have already established to be deserving of that abuse and people will call it healing.

That's where Ragnarok comes in. They took away his past, his heritage, all the things done to him by his family, etc and they turned him into an arrogant buffoon whose only interest is in seeking power and nothing else. In this situation the movie claims these two are good for him:

He's emotionally manipulated in that elevator scene by an ooc Thor. He defines him, all Loki does is look down, he doesn't get a chance to speak up for himself. The film wants to send the message that this chat is good for him and makes him realize the "truth"

He's attacked painfully but the scene is framed as funny, he deserves it for "betraying" his brother, Loki writhing in pain is meant to incite laughter.

He was established then and there as a selfish, power-hungry, arrogant idiot who needed to be brought down to have his pride taken away and for him to humble down... the series is just more of that x100.

The problem was that his sacrifice in IW had made him a hero (we all know Loki is only a hero when he's dead), so they brought him back but not the recent version, the good one, no, we can't have a good Loki! This guy is always bad! Nah, they used EG as the excuse to claim the Loki in the series is villain Loki again, therefore it's back to those two points stated above: he needs to be emotionally manipulated, he's not a leader but a follower and the plot is moved along by others not him, only other people can define him and whatever physical mistreatment he goes through is healing and helps him realize the "truth".

#Loki critical #anti waldron #anti ragnarok

[bardicious]

I'm DEAD. All things I fuckin hate about lots of Marvel writing in recent years. (Though it's not mentioned in this video - this is about games)

#anti marvel #anti disney #anti ragnarok #anti thor love and thunder #anti loki series #anti endgame #Im sorry its so fuckin funny - this guy is describing a bunch of scenerios that sound just like TW's writing and I think thats hilarious #recommend this video if you hate fake progressiveness #Youtube

[abby118]

#Loki #2011-2013 Loki supremacy #poll #mcu #marvel #anti loki series #anti ragnarok #Thor #Thor 1 #The Avengers #Thor The Dark World

[loveloki555]

Thor Ragnarok: Past

Recently I had a theory that the MCU creates a supposedly ''coherent timeline'', but it is not coherent.

I called it old MCU/new MCU.

The endpoint of the old MCU is Age of Ultron. I wrote a post on why Civil War isn't a sequel to this. Now I'm watching: What If.

We have a scene from Loki and Thor's childhood. Quite an interesting scene….because it could never have happened in the MCU until 2015…

When Loki uses casket, we know how he looks like:

So What if episode 7 showed us how look like this other past. Past in Thor Ragnarok. Loki uses the casket against his brother, freezing him. Not only does this not trigger the discovery of Loki's heritage, but it also agrees with Thor's words in Ragnarok that Loki stabbed him as a child.

And as children Loki and Thor were like this:

So Thor and Loki's past in the Ragnarok universe:

Odin had a bloodthirsty past and was even older than his Thor/Thor Dark World prototype. It was he who made that Asgard had gold to build the city. He had a child with an unnamed woman, Hela. After some time, he grew tired of conquests. He banished the original daughter. He had a new wife and a new son. War with Jotunheim in this universe... Laufey didn't abandon Loki and he wasn't a bastard. In the script of Thor 2011 there is a scene where Laufey admits that he abandoned Loki and that Loki is his bastard… so Loki in Infinity War cannot call himself the rightful king of Jotunheim… if he has legitimate brothers… of course not we know nothing about the law of bastards in the 9 worlds… but that's another clue showing that the Old MCU only lasted until 2015.

Of course, this scene did not appear in the film… but it shows the creators' intention… that Odin was not lying about Loki being abandoned. That Laufey hadn't lost Loki unjustly at all. He never wanted Loki. He abandoned him.

And in What if:

Loki was probably kidnapped. Laufey was grateful to get it back from Odin in this episode. This is the Thor Ragnarok timeline. So in this universe, Loki was Laufey's legitimate son, which makes what he said in Infinity War make sense.

Side note, look at Odin with Laufey…he is from the frescoes that Hela depicted…not from the Thor 2011 movie that we saw

And during this war Odin looked like this in Thor 2011:

That's why I wanted to tell you, that's why the events don't fit so well.

We never see the future of the original timeline of 2015. There, Thanos got the gauntlet from Asgard and wants to kill the Avengers. The gauntlet in Asgard was real, not fake. There Thor went to look for stones. There, Loki is still plotting on the throne. Bruce probably landed there near the Philippines, not on Saakar. Hela does not exist there, because literally Odin chronologically cannot have such a past and so on…

Other my posts from this series:

#anti taika waititi #anti ragnarok #what if #new/old mcu #mcu meta #Youtube

[nerdychristianfanboy]

Thor (2011) >>>>>>> Thor: Ragnarok

#marvel #marvel cinematic universe #thor 2011 #anti ragnarok #anti taika waititi

[gloriousburden]

Ok not to talk about that series, but i just gotta say that i can’t help but be… i don’t know, i guess grateful? that marvel decided to let this mischaracterization happen to the variant™️ instead of to our loki. (since we all know that it would happen eventually because they don’t care about his character or anything he’s been through. hence his characterization in ragnarok too.) but i do mourn what our loki could’ve been everyday. and how much he deserved a solo project or even just another thor movie that would’ve dived into LITERALLY ANYTHING about him. there was so much potential, but instead they killed him off because they needed someone to open up the doors to the multiverse or literally whatever tf.

the series could’ve been about literally anyone. that’s just how non loki centered it is despite it literally being called LOKI. i hate that they’re trying to push this variant as the “new loki”, and that our loki is “irrelevant” and “flawed” now when he literally was perfect before he was killed off (and before ragnarok.) if this was what new “loki” content would consist of, they should’ve just let him go since clearly no one at marvel understands anything about him anymore.

(oh and not to mention that they originally wanted to kill loki off in the dark world, which actually explains a lot.)

also this is sort of unrelated to the original rant but i just gotta say that i really and truly wish that lokius/mobius fans would stop acting as if they’re so much more morally superior than sylki/sylvie fans. neither of them actually understand loki or care about him, and they both need to stop claiming that they are loki fans. because in reality, they’re just fans of the variant and who they can ship him with. if they actually understood loki, they would dislike the series as much as the rest of us do. it’s written by people who don’t get anything about loki besides…

“haha he’s thor’s younger brother who’s jealous and so evil… he commits evil acts JUST for the fun of it and without any true reasoning. oh and he’s such a narcissist guys… it’s not like he’s been trying to prove himself (mind you this is something an actual narcissist wouldn’t feel they have to do btw. but since the writers couldn’t see through the Very Obvious facade that loki puts up in response to the way he’s been ignored, belittled, neglected, etc… they think he’s a narcissist.) to not only odin, but to everyone else around him in the first two movies he was in. and since he’s privileged, it must mean he can’t have any kind of struggles and is overreacting. yass put him in a time loop where he continuously gets physically assaulted 😍 that’ll show him for sure.”

and then sylki/sylvie fans, and lokius/mobius fans will ignore how bad this writing is, just because loki was dumbed down enough to be shipped with their mediocre ass characters. if you can ignore the VERY OBVIOUS mischaracterization of loki’s character, then you are not a loki fan. you’re just a fan of the series and the characters in it. both lokius and sylki shippers are Um… not that great to put it kindly, but lokius shippers specifically have this weird superiority complex over sylki shippers/sylvie fans in general even though they ALSO don’t really know one thing about loki’s character outside of the mischaracterization from the series, and from fanon.

anyway putting this gif here because it’s cute and one of my faves ^_^

#loki #anti loki series #anti lokius #anti mobius #anti sylki #anti sylvie #loki meta #loki series criticism #anti ragnarok #ragnarok critism #loki series negativity #loki deserves better #mcu loki #anti loki show #loki show critical #loki show criticism #loki series critical #loki 💭 #2011 2013 loki supremacy

[galaxythreads]

i don't remember ever waking up and deciding to hate mcu. I don't remember waking up and hating ragnarok. I don't remember waking up and loathing every direction mcu is going in. I don't remember waking up and deciding that wanda's character is a mess and i don't care about her anymore. I don't remember waking up and deciding to dread every new marvel project. I don't remember waking up and deciding not to watch the new movie or the new series. I don't remember waking up and deciding not to care.

It just happened.

I do remember waking up exhausted and the fandom that used to bring me so much joy only making me feel like I'm wading through a graveyard of what it used to be. That was today. and yesterday. And months before it. I don't remember deciding to hate mcu (or, at best, feel apathy for it), only that I do. It wasn't a trend I hopped on or cool or a "new thing." I never chose to do this. It just happened. I'm still in the graveyard.

#mcu #anti mcu #anti ragnarok

[asgard-pics]

#editing ragnarok <3 #Listen i know it's far from perfect cause I can't edit but like bchjasbdc #anti ragnarok #Asgard #hela erasure #I want more Asgard pics that's why