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hyperactivewhore · 7 months
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I'm sorry but the only reason klaroline ever got so much popularity and their huge fan base was because the fans used Caroline as a self insert: she's the stereotype of a teenager girl, a gorgeous blonde vampire who's insecure and is always put second aka what every teen has been in one point of their lives.
That's why other Klaus’s ships, such as klayley, klamille, klaurora and especially klonnie, didn't get the hype and love klaroline did. These women were all adults or young adults when they were introduced (except Bonnie of course) and the people didn't like them at all at first. I mean, the hatred towards Camille, Hayley and Aurora when The Originals was streaming was crazy and this has reduced a little, but still remains.
I'm aware that even if klaroline hadn't happened, klonnie wouldn't have gotten half the support that Klaus and Caroline have. Of course it wouldn't, why would they care about a poc romance? Bonnie wasn't ignored only by the show itself, but by the fans and this shows. I mean, even klena (Klaus x Elena) gets more love than them and while I don't hate this pairing, it just proves that writers will never put their favorite white person with a black woman.
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klaysexual · 8 months
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My daughter has an advantage Klaus never had, she will never ever know you.
THE ORIGINALS | A Closer Walk With Thee (1.20)
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bennettmaximoff · 4 months
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It’s still insane how that side of tvdu fandom vilifies Tyler for choosing to get revenge on the man that killed his mother and friends instead of staying with Caroline, all because they needed an excuse to make Klaus look like the better choice for Care. Which is insane because he has physically harmed Caroline and almost killed her, yet somehow him doing that isn’t terrible as Tyler growling at Caroline bc she slept with the man who tortured him and again, has killed his mother…
“Tyler slut shamed her”… when all he stated was that she slept with Klaus. Even in show, they have Stefan punching him and acting as if he said something egregious [Them completely forgetting all the times they have Caroline call other female characters sluts or insinuate it, but ofc the writers and fandom have selective memory when it comes to certain characters] when Tyler had the right to be upset over his girlfriend sleeping with the man who destroyed his life.
This is the same side that calls Bonnie a terrible friend because she didn’t immediately warm up to Caroline being a vampire. Even though Caroline had literally killed an innocent person—Even though Bonnie made her a daylight ring not too long after. But this is the TVD fandom we’re talking about, so of course black and poc character’s feelings are not an importance to them. It’s interesting how they are so quick to infantilize and baby white characters, yet the black/poc chars are supposed to easily move on from their trauma, deal with it, and prioritize their white counterparts over themselves.
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bittergirlsworld · 2 months
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I finally gave up and saw TVD to understand some stuff in TO, and I just have to say: what an awfully written show. My goodness, how the hell is the most annoying girl in Mystic Falls the anchor who holds them together? Caroline, the fandom darling has no personality whatsoever. She's a camaleon, she's what they need her to be in the episode. Sometimes, she's the greatest soul alive, sometimes she's only there to slutshame another girl for doing exactly what she does. Sometimes she's pinning after her boyfriend, sometimes she backstabs him. Sometimes she's so repulsed by the 1000 year murder who bribes her with fancy things and sometimes she's okay to use the hell out of him to have what she needs. Elena, who's supposed to be the protagonist, becomes more and more the love interest to Damon. His love for her, that both recognize as toxic, comes from a sire bond and everyone insists to pretend that she loves him just the same without it as if she wasn't heavily projecting Stefan on him to the point he calls her out. The Originals, who were supposed to be invicible, the most insane of them just dies for a teenage hunter. Finn, the most sane one, portrait as a bore because he resented the bother who kept him in a coffin for thousands of years. Katherine, who I swear is one of the only two female characters really interesting in this show, is called a bitch all the time for the unforgivable crime of running from a psycho hybrid who wanted to slaughter her and then slaughtered her fucking family. Elijah and Rebekah does not exist outside of Klaus. Rebekah was just extremely annoying till they gave her a real personality and in the spin-off. Out of nowhere, she was obsessed with being human. Bonnie, poor Bonnie. The racism was blatantly showing. She was only there to be the magic negro trope. They didn't even allowed her to have romantic storyline! Her boyfriend who she resurrected cheats on her with a freaking ghost and she still back with him in season 5? She deserved so much better. Damon turns her mother in a vampire and then she's his best friend? She loses her entire family as well and is never treated with the same courtesy Elena has been treated. Not even the fancy balls she could attend, apparently. (Her wigs were also terrible. Poor Kat, they made her appear so old sometimes with those hairs).
And the romantic pairings? Awful. Damon and Elena were downright disgusting. He raped Caroline. Why everyone pretends he wasn't compelling her while having sex with her? Why all these centuries old man are so obsessed with fuck teenagers? How's that's romantic, date a girl on high school when you had two shares of a lifetime? Even if we take in consideration the lore that vampires stop aging when they're turned, the only couple who would make sense in this logic were Stefan and Elena, since Stefan was a teenager when turned. Klaus and Caroline had no romantic connection. She used him dry, he bite her to die to make a point to her boyfriend. He would be her last love but fucked her and left. She hated him but would happily accept his gifts while treating him like a dog. Damon and Elena loudly assume to each other that they are terrible together but then forget because they're fucking again. I swear to god, that relationship was pure based on their sex drive. She wanted that old dick so bad she blamed dead Katherine for the fact he killed her friend and threatened her brother.
The timeline made no sense. Plotholes all around. Why Bonnie couldn't make magic while being the anchor? Must be because she would be too powerful, and with Elena being so useless, they couldn't allow that. Caroline is another one completely useless for the plot. She could disappear from the show and wouldn't change a single thing.
It's really awful. After finally seeing this I can say with conviction that The Originals was the best they could have.
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bennett-mikealson · 2 months
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A Reddit post is triggering this rant but it has to be said (even though I’m sure I’ve said it before on this page).
Caroline‘s "girl boss" moment telling Tyler She wasn't going to continue to feel guilty after sleeping with Klaus was not a "girl boss" moment. Caroline slept with the man that caused Tyler, an immense amount of pain and trauma, and also killed, not only his hybrid friends that he was trying to free from Klaus, but his mother.
In the scene Caroline says " your hybrid bite just killed someone and no one even batted an eye. I sleep with the wrong guy once weeks ago and I don't hear the end of it how is that fair".
First of you're comparing two different things. The only valid comparison that Caroline could’ve made to her situation was Elena getting with Damon after all the BS he has done to everyone and the fact that that’s Stefan brother. But she knew not to do that bc everybody had something to say about Elena getting Damon (especially her). Second, the person he killed (Nadia) he did it to SAVE YOUR LIFE so, why are you bringing that up like he did it for nothing or for fun?????? It's not adding up.
Then she rants about how being a good vampire doesn’t come easy and she has the same impulses as Tyler so she’s allowed to make mistakes and says " yes I slept with Klaus, but that was after you walked away from me that was my choice and I’m living with it and I don’t need to be hearing about it every five seconds, so just get over it or get out of my life, but I’m done feeling guilty".
Why is she talking like she’s the victim? Why is she talking as if that guilt she’s feeling isn’t deserved bc she hurt someone who lost his freedom (at one point), friends and mother all at the hands of the man that you slept with? why are you continually pushing and pushing (and unnecessarily, inserting yourself in his life every chance you got) him to forgive you instead of giving him that time to get over what you did like he continued to ask you to do? Tyler shouldn’t of had to forgive you on your terms, Caroline when YOU WERE THE ONE WHO MADE THE MISTAKE.
it’s interesting how Caroline continuously told Elena to stick with Stefan even after he went on his little revenge hunt for Klaus but she can’t give Tyler that same energy. I understand one situation is when they thought they could kill Klaus and the other was when they knew that killing Klaus wasn't possible but how come you can’t let Tyler work through his anger from the pain Klaus caused him like you were able to do with Stefan?
That's what's not fair.
(Sidenote: Didnt Caroline cheat on Tyler with Jesse?)
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viavolterra · 2 months
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Call me dramatic but this makes me so sad. These mfs actually ruined this poor angel's job.
Dont even get me started on the writers, biggest pussies ever, why make this character and create this storyline just to drop it bc ur scarred of teenagers on their phones.
Then even after shes been harassed and bullied, you go on and reward these same fans by bringing in the other one in s5 (ik julie addressed that but she still did it so she can stfu)
Leah's better than me bc i wouldve come onto the s5 set with a flame thrower
If you dont like klamille thats fine, if you dont like Cami (im judging you severely) thats fine as well....ig
but there isnt a single reason to dislike Leah Pipes, unless youre pro life which in that case stay away from me
If they didnt cast Leah as Cami they wouldve casted someone else and that same person wouldve received the same hate, stop letting your character bias affect how you see the actual actress
at least she aint a zionist like the rest of them
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A huge missed opportunity imo in the whole Caroline Tyler Klaus triangle was not addressing that Klaus took Tyler's agency away and controlled his mind and will in such an insidious way that only Caroline (and Elena after the whole Damon sire bond disaster) can understand, and that's mainly why I find Klaroline icky. Caroline should have been the first person to understand Tyler's hatred of Klaus, because after what Damon put her through in s1 she knows exactly what it feels like to have your free will taken away from you. Tyler had every right to be mad at her for liking Klaus after what he did to him, and Caroline picked and chose when to hold her grudges, and the story would have been far more satisfying to me if Tyler and Caroline had bonded over healing from such an assault on their minds. They didn't even have to stay together, and Caroline could still choose peace over revenge contrary to Tyler and that could still be a conflict. But yeah in light of all of this Klaroline will always be icky to me the same way Delena will always be icky to me
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occulthours · 5 months
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Julie plec really created a narrative kai was worse then all the dudes because she didn't like he was set up romantically interested in bonnie and wanted a excuse to get rid of Elena plec and co wasn't that involved in the beginning stages of kai character and s6 of tvd that's why it was written so differently
This is so true!
Bonkai is not that different from ships like D.elena and Kl.aroline yet Bonnie stans have to hear “you must HATE Bonnie to ship her with that man”, but y’all don’t hate Elena when you ship her with the man that killed her brother because she didn’t reciprocate his feelings for her? Y’all don’t hate Caroline when you ship her with the man that stabbed her with a lamp because she didn’t want to leave her boyfriend for him?
The only difference between Bonkai and DE/KC is that Bonnie had a negative reaction to Kai’s treatment of her. You’d think that would be a good thing give how dehumanizing TVDs treatment of Bonnie was but it really was just another way to excuse them from giving Bonnie the same things the other girls got romance wise. Caroline and Elena got their toxic sexy dark romances with the villain of the season who spewed declarations of epic love and showered them in gifts but Bonnie doesn’t even get to have a reaction to Kai heavily flirting before the stabbing incident. Caroline and Elena get to live in their delusional fantasies about making their evil boyfriends better people while Bonnie has to stand on business and take Kai down.
Now do I think that Caroline and Elena should’ve been able to whack Klaus and Damon for the torment they endured by those men? Absolutely! All three of those girls were getting used and abused by the men in the show yet Bonnie was the only one that doesn’t get to take part in the more “fun” and “sexy” parts of the whole dark romance thing.
I didn’t know that Plec didn’t create Kai though! Bonkai had much more of a foundation than Bon.enzo
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philtatosbuck · 5 months
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the thing about the thing is that any klaus ship makes more sense than kl*roline and those people have to act like that to compensate. and i do mean literally any klaus ship.
the originals edition? klaurora ate. would've done great things if not for elijah. klamille? ain't everyone's cup of tea but it still makes more sense for klaus to have an interest in her than that other blonde girl at the very LEAST from a psychology aspect and to get at marcel and kieran. klayley? even if the only thing they Ever did was hate fuck, it still would've been more in character. klaus and lucien, klaus and genevieve, all of them make at least some sense from a narrative point of view.
tvd? klaus and elena? would've been a dark and twisty ass romance, but would've been great to witness. klaus and bonnie? not only would it have been eagerly accepted, but it was WANTED by the actors too. klaus and katherine? c'mon. (if you come to me about 'he killed her family!!' i'm sorry but i do not care they would've been so fucking funny). klaus and stefan.
even in the fucking BOOKS, klaus and vivianne were so, so much better. it's just.
like i'm SORRY but no matter what other ship it is kl*roline falls flat. he liked her because why? he has a weird complex about his sister and he wanted to assert dominance over tyler. there was literally no other reason for that man to give a shit about her.
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klayleyism · 6 months
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People who call klayley platonic are so funny because they'll be like so what if he called her hot and they had sex and he said she's great in bed and they have a child and she literally said he's the only man she wanted to have a family with and he's deadly jealous of every man she got with and the show runner confirmed they're romantic, they're still friends 😡💢💢
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daenysthedreamer101 · 2 months
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TVD S5 EP11&12 (mostly a rant about Tyler and Caroline)
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I'm not even gonna talk about the first 10 episodes, Silas was annoying AF I'm glad he's dead. Also, Katherine as a human was hilarious.
Tyler deserved better. I said it. I never really understood the Tyler hate. Like, yeah he was a douche in S1 but if we're judging him by his S1 personality shouldn't we all hate Caroline by that logic? Cause she was kind of a bitch in S1.
Caroline sleeping with Klaus...yeah no I don't even know what to say. I knew it was coming, just didn't know when. It was dumb and just didn't really make any sense to me. I was never really on board with them, to begin with.
Why did Klaus come back to MF in the first place? To see Katherine dying? Anyways... It always felt to me like Klaus was being really pushy and trying to flirt with Care when she was obviously not into it (she seemed pretty content and happy with Tyler)
Like sir, you have a whole ass baby on the way (idk what happened with that storyline cause the Mikaelsons went to New Orleans and I'm not watching TO rn) and you're here in MF trying to hook up with a girl who repeatedly told you she wasn't interested. Dare i say, you look kind of pathetic.
Tyler my boy, you deserve better, you really do. And then, when he hears Care talking to a Katherine-possessed Elena about Klaus he is obviously heartbroken.
Look, Care, I like you, I really do, but I can't defend you on this one. It's preposterous to me that she's the one acting all shocked when Tyler gets upset. Like, you slept with the man who ruined his life, who killed your best friend's aunt (RIP Jenna you will always be missed), and oh, killed his mother! (RIP Carol you were innocent)
Also, this might just be me, but did everyone forget that Klaus was gonna kill Care in the sacrifice ritual thing back in S2? Maybe I'm just really bad at letting things go but I would never get over that? Like I would never want to be friends let alone anything more with a person who brought so much suffering to me and my friends.
You almost died because of him, twice! Damn it Caroline, where are your morals!?
Call it a moment of weakness I guess, but still, it was hella stupid. And then Stefan defends Caroline? Like no don't defend her she did a stupid thing!
Tyler is my guy and I like him. I understand not liking his character but you cannot seriously say that he was in the wrong in this situation. He had every right to be upset. And Caroline was stupid for what she did. Maybe it's because Klaus said "You'll never see me again" so she thought "fuck it, I might as well since he'll be gone for good" but still dumb af
The show has been off the rails since S4 it can only be worse from here lol
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hyperactivewhore · 5 months
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I get being upset about Bonnie not being invited to the Mikaelson ball, but here you go once again, blaming Caroline for a choice the writer's made, something she had no part of. People are getting weird AF with their anti Caroline stance and it's getting ridiculous.
Here you go once again, putting words I didn't say in my mouth.
Does it upset me that Bonnie wasn't invited to the ball? Yes. Does Caroline being there make me mad? No. Do I think she shouldn't have come? Yes, I certainly think so.
I complained about Caroline and Matt being there because plot wise it was absolutely stupid and it made no sense. They didn't add absolutely nothing to the events developing there, and their presence was completely unneeded: Caroline and Matt were there solely because of Klaus and Rebekah/delena. This was the moment the showrunners decided to start writing klaroline, exclusively and only because the fans liked their first scene together, so they decided to have her going to the ball just to have their "romance" developing, which made no sense for her at all;
Klaus literally tried to kill her a few episodes prior, he had Tyler bite her on her birthday leaving her on the brink of death and then he showed up to heal her. Where is her self-preservation? Wasn't she scared of him at all?
It's funny to me that she only accepted to go because of Rebekah inviting Matt. Did she thought he was in potential danger? Did she decide to go to try to protect him? I get she was worried about her friend, but this is slightly strange.
Matt was just there for Rebekah and to make Damon and Elena fight because of his altercation with Kol, nothing else, and his presence and the issue he caused wasn't that serious because they made up an episode later. Why would he go? He was a human on a house full of the oldest vampires to ever live, and he was aware of this. I'm aware Matt isn't the brightest person to walk the earth, but everybody knows a human shouldn't be around bloodthirsty vampires.
Again, just stupid. Caroline and Matt shouldn't have been at the ball, that's all. Elena and the Salvatore going made sense: she was the doppelgänger, Stefan had story with them and Damon wouldn't allow her to go anywhere without any of them.
Bonnie, however, had every single reason to be there:
She was Ayana's descendant.
Esther would want to meet a Bennett witch, seeing she was best friends with one once and she knew they were powerful allies.
She had been more close than anyone to killing Klaus: the fact that he didn't try to seduce her or try to kill her was ooc, especially because he befriended witches before klaroline came in.
Kol loved witches and this bitch knows everything about everyone. It surprises me that he didn't try to get her on his side or at least use her to try to take down any member of his family.
The Bennett bloodline is far more powerful in magic terms than any other family could ever be, their blood was needed for like half of the most powerful spells and the fact that not a single person thought about getting on Bonnie's good side is completely stupid.
What is ridiculous is that people dickride 3x14 to hell because of the fanservice. I love this episode, but calling out it's flaws it's not a bad thing.
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shiploverr · 8 months
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Klamille is my OTP from TO. Yes I know I’m late in the show 🤦🏻‍♀️ I didn’t get to enjoy it live *SOBS* but I’ve recently binged watched all 5 seasons and WTF!! Smh. I haven’t watched legacies because, let’s be honest, Klaus Mikaelson is my tiny baby who deserved better than what he got and so did his wifey. Also, can I just say, there was NO REASON to bring Caroline into TO. That right there was fan service to the Kl*rolines, who btw, did NOT deserve it. After what they did to Leah Pipes, they deserved NOTHING. *Sighs* I’m, what, 5 years too late and yet I’m angry because it feels like it was yesterday. Whatever. Julie Plec & Kevin Williamson are the true villains of TO. Point blank. *storms off*
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cancerian-woman · 8 months
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I won't be offended if you prefer to delete this but your post about Tyler had me thinking...
Caroline really made his grief over his mother dying about her so much so that she issued the worst ultimatum and left herself with...
A drunk old man that used to be her teacher.
A long time friend that never seemed like he got over Elena and definitely has codependent issues with his brother so much so that he sacrificed himself willingly a day after their wedding.
And a power hungry hybrid who gave her money he could more than afford to give and said pretty words but also tortured, enslaved and killed people she was connected to....and also definitely had codependent issues with his brother.
I cannot fathom it.
All true facts. It’s late here so a meta! :D
As a huge Forwood shipper and I’m equally very critical of them. It’s a great ship for them both at first, then becomes a ship only for Caroline’s needs and development which isn’t fair to Tyler That Klaroline/Steroline shadow made those fans believe Tyler was the worst Caroline could get. When in reality he was the BEST romantic partner and friend she ever had.
What upsets me more about that ultimatum that Caroline FORCED is that she’s the only one we see comforting Tyler after Carol’s death. Even before Carol died, and Tyler was skeptical about being alpha she uplifted him and Tyler heavily respected what she had to say and went full force with it. Mind you, this is the same Tyler that broke every bone in his body just to be with Caroline. Then re-agreed to slavery for Care. Forwood communicated with each other and called out their faults. The other tvdu ships weren’t doing that!—then we get this full arc of Caroline’s grief and remember she bluntly told Tyler to get over the fact that she hooked up with Klaus because of her impulses and she’s not good1!!1
The series wanted to bury Forwood and they did so in the worst ways imaginable. Caroline gets pregnant with Alaric’s babies forcibly. (I understand Candice was pregnant but they could’ve hid her belly so Caroline wasn’t pregnant.)-Oh and we can’t forget Alaric was in love with her and proposed.
Steroline was supposed to follow the friends to lovers build up the way Forwood did and it never appears that Stefan is all in the way Caroline is. Tbh, even before the wedding Stefan wanted out the relationship he tried multiple times to end things in s8. Caroline refused and wanted it to work. Building them up after Liz’s death was a choice. Stefan manipulated Caroline heavily to when it came Tyler and their relationship.
Klaroline has no obstacles to pass with them. Klaus may give Caroline pretty things, and money but emotionally he’s never shown to give Caroline any support. When Caroline saves Bonnie from those 12 witches which is her first huge kill(correct me if I’m wrong) since s2 she immediately goes to Klaus and he basically tells her to get away from him. Klaus mentions how she’s too good for that small town but Caroline had never said she hated her home. What she did hate was Klaus grown ass destroying shit. They never had a serious conversation about anything tbh. I did enjoy how Caroline called him out at first but TO’s “you aren’t the villain in my story.” Ruined that. Oh and lol these shippers get on Damon for his rape of Caroline yet somehow, someway excuses that Klaus attempted to rape Caroline too in Tyler’s body…. Anyways! I do think a lot of Klaroline is rooted in Klaus wanting control over Tyler, and Caroline is a way to exert control over Tyler because of his love for her.
Okay this is long af, sorry! To end this off Tyler loved Caroline for who she was. He never wanted her to change, he valued and respected her. Never abused her or anyone she loved. He listened to what she had to say. Caroline’s other love interests NEVER saw her the way Tyler did. Btw, I wish people understood Tyler never, not once slutshamed Caroline for having sex with someone else. He was only mad that she slept with Klaus as if Klaus did not ruin Tyler’s life and murdered his mother. There’s obviously a reason Caroline didn’t want Tyler to know and continued to ignore the boundaries he placed up in s5 so they could just go back to the way SHE wanted them to be. It’s sad they were ruined because 5B of Forwood has moments where you can forget their broken up just based on Forwood’s chemistry. I forgot to add, some fans pretend Tyler couldn’t give Caroline a good life. Tyler wasn’t financially struggling, and would’ve done anything she asked of him. I think it’s a little problematic that Tyler did say everything he liked about himself was Caroline lol. But, he wanted nothing but her and their happiness. Just without the enslavement from Klaus.
Thank you for the ask!
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bennettmaximoff · 10 months
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I’ll always find if funny when tvdu stans, particularly Elena and Caroline stans, get so offended at the thought of Bonnie having meaningful connections with other characters outside of them. Like the near mention of Bonnie being desired by other characters such as the Mikaelsons gets them so angry. Especially when people say how Bonnie would have been a great love interest for Klaus, and how it makes more sense.
I think they just need to admit that they don’t see Bonnie for more than a character who’s life revolves around their faves and comes to their rescue every time, basically a mule. They don’t see her as an equal to the other two and anytime her fans show any ounce of appreciation or rewrite events that put her in a favorable position, they feel the need to always come in and shut down people. They self insert themselves into these characters and because Bonnie doesn’t fit the image they like, they come up with all types of ridiculous excuses as to why she would “never do that”. Bonnie is one of the most multifaceted characters in the main tvd cast, unfortunately her as a character was never properly explored due to racism and shitty writing, so to say she wouldn’t do something when she wasn’t even given a chance to explore those sides of her is redundant.
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bennett-mikealson · 10 months
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Every now and then I watch old videos Klonnie related and It’s just so funny to me when Klonnie antis swear up and down Klonnie would have no chemistry even though (especially around season 4) Joseph stayed subtly vouching for the ship saying things like he was open to new love interest and even mentioning how him and Kat always got along off screen (Kat as well). Like If they always got along behind the scenes what makes you think they wouldn’t have mad chemistry on screen? Bffr
But anyways, to all the Klonnie writers keep up the good work. Y’all write some amazing stories and I’m looking forward to reading more from y’all. ⭐️
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