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hyperactivewhore · 5 months
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I get being upset about Bonnie not being invited to the Mikaelson ball, but here you go once again, blaming Caroline for a choice the writer's made, something she had no part of. People are getting weird AF with their anti Caroline stance and it's getting ridiculous.
Here you go once again, putting words I didn't say in my mouth.
Does it upset me that Bonnie wasn't invited to the ball? Yes. Does Caroline being there make me mad? No. Do I think she shouldn't have come? Yes, I certainly think so.
I complained about Caroline and Matt being there because plot wise it was absolutely stupid and it made no sense. They didn't add absolutely nothing to the events developing there, and their presence was completely unneeded: Caroline and Matt were there solely because of Klaus and Rebekah/delena. This was the moment the showrunners decided to start writing klaroline, exclusively and only because the fans liked their first scene together, so they decided to have her going to the ball just to have their "romance" developing, which made no sense for her at all;
Klaus literally tried to kill her a few episodes prior, he had Tyler bite her on her birthday leaving her on the brink of death and then he showed up to heal her. Where is her self-preservation? Wasn't she scared of him at all?
It's funny to me that she only accepted to go because of Rebekah inviting Matt. Did she thought he was in potential danger? Did she decide to go to try to protect him? I get she was worried about her friend, but this is slightly strange.
Matt was just there for Rebekah and to make Damon and Elena fight because of his altercation with Kol, nothing else, and his presence and the issue he caused wasn't that serious because they made up an episode later. Why would he go? He was a human on a house full of the oldest vampires to ever live, and he was aware of this. I'm aware Matt isn't the brightest person to walk the earth, but everybody knows a human shouldn't be around bloodthirsty vampires.
Again, just stupid. Caroline and Matt shouldn't have been at the ball, that's all. Elena and the Salvatore going made sense: she was the doppelgänger, Stefan had story with them and Damon wouldn't allow her to go anywhere without any of them.
Bonnie, however, had every single reason to be there:
She was Ayana's descendant.
Esther would want to meet a Bennett witch, seeing she was best friends with one once and she knew they were powerful allies.
She had been more close than anyone to killing Klaus: the fact that he didn't try to seduce her or try to kill her was ooc, especially because he befriended witches before klaroline came in.
Kol loved witches and this bitch knows everything about everyone. It surprises me that he didn't try to get her on his side or at least use her to try to take down any member of his family.
The Bennett bloodline is far more powerful in magic terms than any other family could ever be, their blood was needed for like half of the most powerful spells and the fact that not a single person thought about getting on Bonnie's good side is completely stupid.
What is ridiculous is that people dickride 3x14 to hell because of the fanservice. I love this episode, but calling out it's flaws it's not a bad thing.
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bennettmaximoff · 5 months
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It’s still insane how that side of tvdu fandom vilifies Tyler for choosing to get revenge on the man that killed his mother and friends instead of staying with Caroline, all because they needed an excuse to make Klaus look like the better choice for Care. Which is insane because he has physically harmed Caroline and almost killed her, yet somehow him doing that isn’t terrible as Tyler growling at Caroline bc she slept with the man who tortured him and again, has killed his mother…
“Tyler slut shamed her”… when all he stated was that she slept with Klaus. Even in show, they have Stefan punching him and acting as if he said something egregious [Them completely forgetting all the times they have Caroline call other female characters sluts or insinuate it, but ofc the writers and fandom have selective memory when it comes to certain characters] when Tyler had the right to be upset over his girlfriend sleeping with the man who destroyed his life.
This is the same side that calls Bonnie a terrible friend because she didn’t immediately warm up to Caroline being a vampire. Even though Caroline had literally killed an innocent person—Even though Bonnie made her a daylight ring not too long after. But this is the TVD fandom we’re talking about, so of course black and poc character’s feelings are not an importance to them. It’s interesting how they are so quick to infantilize and baby white characters, yet the black/poc chars are supposed to easily move on from their trauma, deal with it, and prioritize their white counterparts over themselves.
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bennett-mikealson · 2 months
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A Reddit post is triggering this rant but it has to be said (even though I’m sure I’ve said it before on this page).
Caroline‘s "girl boss" moment telling Tyler She wasn't going to continue to feel guilty after sleeping with Klaus was not a "girl boss" moment. Caroline slept with the man that caused Tyler, an immense amount of pain and trauma, and also killed, not only his hybrid friends that he was trying to free from Klaus, but his mother.
In the scene Caroline says " your hybrid bite just killed someone and no one even batted an eye. I sleep with the wrong guy once weeks ago and I don't hear the end of it how is that fair".
First of you're comparing two different things. The only valid comparison that Caroline could’ve made to her situation was Elena getting with Damon after all the BS he has done to everyone and the fact that that’s Stefan brother. But she knew not to do that bc everybody had something to say about Elena getting Damon (especially her). Second, the person he killed (Nadia) he did it to SAVE YOUR LIFE so, why are you bringing that up like he did it for nothing or for fun?????? It's not adding up.
Then she rants about how being a good vampire doesn’t come easy and she has the same impulses as Tyler so she’s allowed to make mistakes and says " yes I slept with Klaus, but that was after you walked away from me that was my choice and I’m living with it and I don’t need to be hearing about it every five seconds, so just get over it or get out of my life, but I’m done feeling guilty".
Why is she talking like she’s the victim? Why is she talking as if that guilt she’s feeling isn’t deserved bc she hurt someone who lost his freedom (at one point), friends and mother all at the hands of the man that you slept with? why are you continually pushing and pushing (and unnecessarily, inserting yourself in his life every chance you got) him to forgive you instead of giving him that time to get over what you did like he continued to ask you to do? Tyler shouldn’t of had to forgive you on your terms, Caroline when YOU WERE THE ONE WHO MADE THE MISTAKE.
it’s interesting how Caroline continuously told Elena to stick with Stefan even after he went on his little revenge hunt for Klaus but she can’t give Tyler that same energy. I understand one situation is when they thought they could kill Klaus and the other was when they knew that killing Klaus wasn't possible but how come you can’t let Tyler work through his anger from the pain Klaus caused him like you were able to do with Stefan?
That's what's not fair.
(Sidenote: Didnt Caroline cheat on Tyler with Jesse?)
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viavolterra · 2 months
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Call me dramatic but this makes me so sad. These mfs actually ruined this poor angel's job.
Dont even get me started on the writers, biggest pussies ever, why make this character and create this storyline just to drop it bc ur scarred of teenagers on their phones.
Then even after shes been harassed and bullied, you go on and reward these same fans by bringing in the other one in s5 (ik julie addressed that but she still did it so she can stfu)
Leah's better than me bc i wouldve come onto the s5 set with a flame thrower
If you dont like klamille thats fine, if you dont like Cami (im judging you severely) thats fine as well....ig
but there isnt a single reason to dislike Leah Pipes, unless youre pro life which in that case stay away from me
If they didnt cast Leah as Cami they wouldve casted someone else and that same person wouldve received the same hate, stop letting your character bias affect how you see the actual actress
at least she aint a zionist like the rest of them
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A huge missed opportunity imo in the whole Caroline Tyler Klaus triangle was not addressing that Klaus took Tyler's agency away and controlled his mind and will in such an insidious way that only Caroline (and Elena after the whole Damon sire bond disaster) can understand, and that's mainly why I find Klaroline icky. Caroline should have been the first person to understand Tyler's hatred of Klaus, because after what Damon put her through in s1 she knows exactly what it feels like to have your free will taken away from you. Tyler had every right to be mad at her for liking Klaus after what he did to him, and Caroline picked and chose when to hold her grudges, and the story would have been far more satisfying to me if Tyler and Caroline had bonded over healing from such an assault on their minds. They didn't even have to stay together, and Caroline could still choose peace over revenge contrary to Tyler and that could still be a conflict. But yeah in light of all of this Klaroline will always be icky to me the same way Delena will always be icky to me
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cancerian-woman · 9 months
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disliking Bonnie because of Caroline’s transition is always funny to me because y’all will bluntly ignore Bonnie’s trauma with vampires at that time to strengthen your disdain for her during her reaction to Caroline’s transition. “Caroline needed her friend…it’s Bonnie’s fault she turned in the first place..” blah blah blah.
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philtatosbuck · 5 months
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This whole 'Bonnie and Elena deserved better' shit started because y'all were mad that Caroline got the happy ending she deserved and for some reason that's not allowed. Caroline wasn't a bad friend, they were. Bonnie was going to cut her out entirely when she was turned into a vampire against her will. Elena constantly put people above her. If anyone deserved better, it was her.
I don't know where to start with this one so I'm gonna just. go through it quickly.
Bonnie deserved better on a grander scale than just in the happy ending regard, although I'm glad you're acknowledging what she got wasn't a happy ending.
Caroline's ending is happy? Her husband is dead and chose to save his nasty ass brother AND his ex girlfriend over living with her, her baby daddy ruined her school because she was off being an absentee mother no matter HOW you spin it, one of her daughters got turned into a heretic and the other she will presumably outlive, the love of her life (her own words in reference to Tyler) is dead and so is the guy she shook down for money sometimes. She will also go on to outlive Bonnie and Elena. But at least she's alive...?
Caroline was a terrible friend to everyone at one point or another, but special shout out goes to her being completely oblivious or willfully ignorant to Bonnie's feelings as far as Stefan was concerned after he murdered Bonnie's boyfriend in front of her, and to her constantly betraying Elena's trust in the name of Stefan.
Bonnie had trauma with vampires. And Caroline had just killed someone. Whether she could control herself or not, Bonnie witnessed that in some part. How dare she have complicated feelings on the matter?
Let's be serious here. Who was Elena supposed to put Caroline above? Jeremy, her little brother? Bonnie, her actual best friend? By the time she even got to the point she was putting Damon (because, let's face it, that's who you mean) above Caroline, Caroline was doing the same shit with Stefan. Piss up a rope. The only thing Caroline deserved was to get her ass beat at least once a season.
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bonkai4ever94 · 3 months
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Credit to the person who made these gif
Why is stefan white knighting for Caroline when Tyler didn't say anything wrong at all he pointed out she Selfishly slept with the dude who killed his mom how else is he supposed to act then she has the nerve to play victim and expect him to apologize to her 🙄 if you want to get with Klaus that's on you but don't expect Tyler to want anything to do with you and stefan of all people should understand Tyler pain too instead of making him the bad guy for having emotions where was this energy when Elena slept with your brother 🤔 🤷
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tamlinfairchild · 2 months
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Never gonna stop seething over people saying Tyler put revenge over Caroline whenever they wanna diss Forwood. Literally fuck the entire lot of you. If Forwood fell it was because of Caroline. He literally lost EVERYTHING. He’s owed a fucking breakdown after everything that he had to deal with. Revenge is a cheap word to use here. Tyler wanted some of his agency back, any of his agency back, after being under Klaus’ control forever and losing everything over it. AND THEN HE CAME BACK, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HE WANTED TO WORK TO FIX THINGS. HE DID NOT FOR ONE SECOND ACT LIKE SHE OWED HIM ANYTHING. Caroline meanwhile, went and slept with the guy who KILLED TYLER’S ENTIRE PACK AND HIS MOTHER. His mother who was his last family. And y’all think Tyler leaving for “revenge” is why Forwood ended? Please get a braincell. The TVD fandom still manages to make me infuriated in a way nothing else does.
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hydesjackiespuddinpop · 5 months
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S1 Caroline: makes insensitive comments about Elena’s parents dying, mocks Bonnie when talking about her witch stuff, canonically doesn’t listen to Bonnie’s problems
Fans: hahaha Caroline being Caroline. She’s such a sweetie.
Elena & Bonnie: Are understandably bothered and distance themselves from Caroline since she’s not gonna listen to reason.
Fans: Elena and Bonnie are such bad friends to Caroline
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daenysthedreamer101 · 2 months
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TVD S5 EP11&12 (mostly a rant about Tyler and Caroline)
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I'm not even gonna talk about the first 10 episodes, Silas was annoying AF I'm glad he's dead. Also, Katherine as a human was hilarious.
Tyler deserved better. I said it. I never really understood the Tyler hate. Like, yeah he was a douche in S1 but if we're judging him by his S1 personality shouldn't we all hate Caroline by that logic? Cause she was kind of a bitch in S1.
Caroline sleeping with Klaus...yeah no I don't even know what to say. I knew it was coming, just didn't know when. It was dumb and just didn't really make any sense to me. I was never really on board with them, to begin with.
Why did Klaus come back to MF in the first place? To see Katherine dying? Anyways... It always felt to me like Klaus was being really pushy and trying to flirt with Care when she was obviously not into it (she seemed pretty content and happy with Tyler)
Like sir, you have a whole ass baby on the way (idk what happened with that storyline cause the Mikaelsons went to New Orleans and I'm not watching TO rn) and you're here in MF trying to hook up with a girl who repeatedly told you she wasn't interested. Dare i say, you look kind of pathetic.
Tyler my boy, you deserve better, you really do. And then, when he hears Care talking to a Katherine-possessed Elena about Klaus he is obviously heartbroken.
Look, Care, I like you, I really do, but I can't defend you on this one. It's preposterous to me that she's the one acting all shocked when Tyler gets upset. Like, you slept with the man who ruined his life, who killed your best friend's aunt (RIP Jenna you will always be missed), and oh, killed his mother! (RIP Carol you were innocent)
Also, this might just be me, but did everyone forget that Klaus was gonna kill Care in the sacrifice ritual thing back in S2? Maybe I'm just really bad at letting things go but I would never get over that? Like I would never want to be friends let alone anything more with a person who brought so much suffering to me and my friends.
You almost died because of him, twice! Damn it Caroline, where are your morals!?
Call it a moment of weakness I guess, but still, it was hella stupid. And then Stefan defends Caroline? Like no don't defend her she did a stupid thing!
Tyler is my guy and I like him. I understand not liking his character but you cannot seriously say that he was in the wrong in this situation. He had every right to be upset. And Caroline was stupid for what she did. Maybe it's because Klaus said "You'll never see me again" so she thought "fuck it, I might as well since he'll be gone for good" but still dumb af
The show has been off the rails since S4 it can only be worse from here lol
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hyperactivewhore · 2 months
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Caroline sleeping with Klaus was a betrayal, just as much as of a betrayal as Elena getting with Damon after everything Damon did to her friends. Of course, Tyler, who was terrorized by Klaus, would be angry that Caroline slept with him. People love to bash Tyler for his reasonable reaction to finding out the woman he loves just slept with the man who killed his mom. People defend Caroline for sleeping with Klaus (which fine - she can sleep with anyone she wants), but at the same time, Tyler had every reason to react badly to the news.
I hate that people bash Tyler for slut-shaming Caroline but go on to applaud Caroline for doing the same thing to every other women on the show. And I find it really telling that many of Caroline/Klaus shippers are the same people who will call Hayley a wereslut, will refer to Cami as a dumb bimbo, and will label Aurora as a crazy whore. So it’s awful for Tyler to slut-shame Caroline, but she’s so iconic, powerful, and a girl boss for doing the same thing to every other girl on the show.
And this isn’t me defending Tyler or praising him. I don’t like Tyler, especially after what he did to Vicki. But even I got to admit, he reacted to Caroline and Klaus like how many people would.
It's crazy because Tyler didn't even slut-shame Caroline, he was just rightfully angry and repeatedly told her to respect his boundaries and get out of his house, but Caroline's hurt ego was always stronger than what people wanted her to do.
Caroline slept with the same man who murdered Jenna, Elena, Tyler and Carol, and who nearly assaulted her just because she felt attracted to him and wanted him to fuck her. Then, once Tyler found out and didn't react the way she wanted him to, she literally told him to get over it or to get out of her life. She told him to get over the fact she slept with his mother's killer, or he would have to leave her life.
Caroline is the biggest slut-shamer in the show and I wouldn't have minded to see Tyler slut-shame her for once, because this girl did it to literally everyone she was jealous of.
Her fans (klaroline fans, to be honest) are so weird about it too. If Rebekah had killed Liz and Tyler had slept with her, the fandom would absolutely drag him, even more than they already do.
Well, it guess it's karma her husband, ex boyfriend and the guy she liked because he sent her money sometimes are all dead. But knowing Caroline, she'll just find someone else eventually, she was constantly dating and she is immortal, after all.
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shiploverr · 8 months
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Klamille is my OTP from TO. Yes I know I’m late in the show 🤦🏻‍♀️ I didn’t get to enjoy it live *SOBS* but I’ve recently binged watched all 5 seasons and WTF!! Smh. I haven’t watched legacies because, let’s be honest, Klaus Mikaelson is my tiny baby who deserved better than what he got and so did his wifey. Also, can I just say, there was NO REASON to bring Caroline into TO. That right there was fan service to the Kl*rolines, who btw, did NOT deserve it. After what they did to Leah Pipes, they deserved NOTHING. *Sighs* I’m, what, 5 years too late and yet I’m angry because it feels like it was yesterday. Whatever. Julie Plec & Kevin Williamson are the true villains of TO. Point blank. *storms off*
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bennett-mikealson · 5 months
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Tyler vs Klaus
It's Been a Hot minute since I've been on tumblr so imma choose violence with this post bc the hypocrisy will always be crazy to me.
So it's OK for Klaus to harm Caroline knowing his hybrid bite would kill a vampire but when Tyler simply shows his werewolf face he's worse than Klaus. I really wanna break down the comparison of them both regarding their situations with Caroline bc from Tyler's pov Caroline as betrayed him on multiple occasions while Klaus has harmed Caroline unprovoked.
1st Tyler situation: Masons Death
Caroline spent a good chunk of season 2 building a new bond with Tyler; gaining his trust when he became a Werewolf. So much so that she even tells Tyler that a Werewolf bite could kill a vampire after she finds that out from Damon. Tyler then finds out from Jules that Caroline was lying to him about knowing who killed Mason (HIS UNCLE) and when confronting Caroline about how she's broken his trust he pushes her against a car and you can see his werewolf side start to takeover but it doesn't. Why? Bc he knows that biting her would kill her. Tyler was able to control himself while being a new werewolf so that he didn't kill Caroilne after she betrayed him but Tyler's the bad guy bc he pushed her against a car. REALLY???? And even after Jules and her friend had Caroline in that cage even if he did hesitate for a second he still took her out and even left Mystic Falls with jules bc he didn't want to harm anyone. He only Came back bc he found out his mother was in the hospital; Why? bc of Klaus.
2nd Tyler situation: Caroline sleeping with Klaus
Once again a betrayal on Caroline's part to Tyler. Tyler spent most of their relationship in competition with Klaus bc of Klaus. Klaus used Tyler's sirebond against him so Tyler left Mystic Falls turning over 100 times and almost dying so he can be free and enjoy his relationship with Caroline. Klaus Killed Tyler's mother and Caroline knew how much pain that put Tyler in bc she was there comforting him at his mother's memorial while he cried in her arms. Then after they broke up Caroline had sex with Klaus and Caroline's once again in conflict with Tyler. Tyler finds out She slept with Klaus and instead of respecting Tyler's wishes to leave him alone Caroline continued to push him to his point of rage showing werewolf side once again. Not attacking her tho. Some would say it was bc Stefan stopped him but I don't believe Tyler would of harmed her to begin with bc if he was able to control his werewolf side when he just started his journey after Caroline betrayed him before why wouldn't he be able to again. But most stans don't see that and instead resort to saying that Tyler's abusive and he had no reason to he mad when they know that if the roles were reversed and Tyler did something like that to Caroline they would freak in rage. What's even worse is that after some time died down and Tyler was still in his feelings Caroline tells him to get over her sleeping with Klaus and Said that she wasn't going to continue to feel bad for what she did.
That was so girl boss you are Caroline. 😐
Now let's get to Klaus,
1st Kluas situation: Bite number 1
Klaus used Tyler's sirebond against him and forced him to bite Caroline on her birthday so he could then save Caroline to seem like some hero. Mind you Caroline has done nothing to Klaus to deserve being put through that pain.
2nd Klaus situation: bite number 2
After Kol is killed and Klaus is locked in the Gilbert house he bites Caroline and stabs her with a lamp after she told him she didn't want to be with him (something he already knew bc she's told him on multiple occasions she didn't want him).
These are 2 situations of Caroline doing little to nothing to Klaus but Klaus harms Caroline knowing he would kill her but he's not held to the same standard as Tyler. He not abusive but Tyler is?
Make it make sense
Tyler has never bitten Caroline. In fact in situations of rage stemming from Caroline betrayals to Tyler he has managed to control himself both times bc he knows that he could kill Caroilne; But he's the bad guy for showing even an ounce of deserved rage to Caroline after she backstabs him. How is Tyler showing Caroline his werewolf face after she does him dirt worse than Klaus purposely biting Caroline while knowing he could kill her?
Either we not watching the same show or Stan's are just letting their biased views cloud their judgment.
And I thinks it's the 2nd option 👀
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bennettmaximoff · 10 months
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I’ll always find if funny when tvdu stans, particularly Elena and Caroline stans, get so offended at the thought of Bonnie having meaningful connections with other characters outside of them. Like the near mention of Bonnie being desired by other characters such as the Mikaelsons gets them so angry. Especially when people say how Bonnie would have been a great love interest for Klaus, and how it makes more sense.
I think they just need to admit that they don’t see Bonnie for more than a character who’s life revolves around their faves and comes to their rescue every time, basically a mule. They don’t see her as an equal to the other two and anytime her fans show any ounce of appreciation or rewrite events that put her in a favorable position, they feel the need to always come in and shut down people. They self insert themselves into these characters and because Bonnie doesn’t fit the image they like, they come up with all types of ridiculous excuses as to why she would “never do that”. Bonnie is one of the most multifaceted characters in the main tvd cast, unfortunately her as a character was never properly explored due to racism and shitty writing, so to say she wouldn’t do something when she wasn’t even given a chance to explore those sides of her is redundant.
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Hayley Marshall being a badass.
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