#anti barbara gordon

[ursie]

I’m sorry but this is awful and pandering like. Babs hates her and it’s wrong but we don’t need to pretend she doesn’t and hasn’t said the most misogynistic stuff about her behind her back consistently like. Let her be a bitch 😭 THEYRE NOT FRIENDS ITS OK like?? it’s honestly more misogynistic to insist women can’t hate each other or have ugly/bad traits on the basis of being women like. Babs is consistently mean to Kory. Kory doesn’t give a shit about Babs. It’s ok. Literally it would be so much funnier if they acknowledged it as a one sided rivalry that it is and always has been 😭 I’m a Babs stan but ignoring her bad traits and just making stuff up to make her look good isn’t helping anyone

Also Babs is straight up not one of the best fighters on the planet she’s not even one of the best fighters in the batfam like 💀 embarrassing I’m sorry I’m a Babs stan but this is out of a bad fanfic. She’s an ok fighter but she’s an unparalleled hacker and tactician ect ect like she’s a good gymnast and stuff but honestly she wasn’t at her best as batgirl and that’s ok. Cass & Helena (and maybe Steph) are better fighters than her.

Literally all of the bat boys save for Duke are consistently better fighters than her. It’s ok. She’s not the best fighter. It’s ok.

If you want her to be the best at something let her be Oracle again 🙄!!!!

Also it’s bs to be like Starfire the best warrior on another planet like she’s one of the best in the galaxy you two are not the same 😭 don’t play

#sorry I saw this on Twitter and I’m in pain #I’m gonna blame tt I knew he was gonna make them besties for hashtag feminist points whilst ignoring everything that made them #unique characters #barbara gordon #koriand’r #anti tom taylor #this isn’t a DickBabs thing but I’m tagging it anti DickBabs just in case #anti dickbabs #i babble #tw misogyny #tw ableism #anti barbara gordon

[literaryspinster]

Not only is B*rbara G*rdon frequently held up as an “acceptable” alternative to love interests of color, that was literally the entire point of her character’s inception. Seriously, look it up. The 60s Batman series invented B*tgirl to be a potential love interest for Bruce after they hired a Black actress to play Catwoman. I’m not saying it’s bad to like B*rbara, it’s literally fine, but understand that the way she’s used by the Bat narrative is off-putting to some people and that’s entirely valid. Also, if they make a B*tgirl and Nightwing movie I’m not watching it. Especially after they cancelled Titans and especially if they hire a white girl to play her after cancelling Leslie’s B*tgirl movie. Sometimes too much is just too much.

#anti barbara gordon #batcat #dickkory #dickbea #dickfacer #anti brucebabs #i tagged accordingly so if you want to argure then keep it pushing or you're catching a block #titans #there's a lot of ablesim happening with her character these days too but that's a story for another post #anti dickbabs

[the-jck-of-all-trdes]

Fixed it 👍

Comic : Nightwing (2016) #98

#wally x dick #dc comics #dcu #dick grayson #nightwing #robin!dick #birdflash #fixed a toxic ship for a cute gay one #starfires cool and all but ill take any chance to talk about wally #anti dickbabs #anti barbara gordon

[batfsm]

Unpopular Opinions:

I decided to be nice and put it behind a read more. So if you want to scroll past, go ahead.

Barbara is creepier than Bruce.

She breaks more rules than any other person in the family and gets away with it.

She bitches to the family members about crap they shouldn't do and yet she does it.

She literally used Cass as a babysitter and threatened her dad with her.

She threatened her dad, the Commissioner, with Cass! Her dad!

She threatened the fucking Commissioner of police and probably, knowing her, got away with it.

She gets away with everything and should not. Nothing ever happens to her.

Well except when she was assaulted so something did but nothing else, that I know of.

She is not as great as you all think.

She's a fucking pedophiler in a way.

Tim

Jason

Even Dick

She literally had cameras watching Dick in his house.

They wrote Dick cheating on Kory with her just to break them up.

She gets jealous of Dick's friendships with girls but he can't be jealous at all? Yeah, nope. Stupidity at it's finest.

She fucking slept with Bruce and yet probably bitched at Jason for sleeping with Talia.

She constantly puts Kory and others down just so she can look like she's the best.

She was great as Oracle but needs to learn to let people live their lives without interfering.

She doesn't belong as part of the Titans. Any of them.

Dinah is a better leader than she is.

Dick deserves better than her.

She deserves to go to jail for some of the things she does/did as Oracle. (Yes, the rest do also before you all get on my ass. Not as long though. Bruce probably deserves just as long as she does but that's it.)

She's becoming a Mary Sue and it's bad.

I love Babs but I hate her now also.

Give me her as Oracle, one who knows how to actually pull back from taking over everything. Give me her by herself. No man and I'll love her again.

She is getting on my nerves and I would love if DC recons her back to her old self. BUT without the relationship.

#batman #barbara gordon #barbara gordon critical #anti barbara gordon #opinions #unpopular opinions

[helbertinelli]

Barbara Gordon has never been that girl. She is an entitled brat who gets pissy when things don’t go her way. She consistently ridicules and breaks Dicks boundaries even blaming him for being SA’d and planting cameras in his apt to see him backed and showed it to other people none of it with his consent. At this point them even remaining friends without extreme therapy seems unlikely

Yikes! I didn't know she did all that. That makes her even worse.

I never liked the character because of how unfairly and petty she treated Helena (and other characters who didn't bow down to everything she wanted). She kinda reminds me of one of those "nice guys" who complain that no one likes them, but then they treat everyone like crap. That's basically the impression I've gotten from her from the comics and scans I've seen of her.

#anti barbara gordon #anonymous #ask

[batfamcraze]

I’m sorry but seeing Tim getting a Robin series while Damian gets sidelined, and Babsgirl stepping over Cass and Steph still in 2022, is making me HATE Tim and Barbara right now 🤷‍♀️

I’m lowkey wishing that they one day get erased✨

DC prefers mediocre white characters I guess

I can’t even stand to see them anymore omgggggggg

#if you disagree idc lol #if you’re a Tim and/or a Babs fan do yourself a favour and ignore this post #lol #anti tim drake #anti barbara gordon #anti babsgirl #my opinion #my thoughts #my unpopular opinions

[porcelaintoybox23]

Listen, I know it’s not canon, as meaningless as that word is for comics, but DC vs Vampires has made me hate Babs. Absolutely hate her. I want her nowhere near Dick Grayson.

#anti dickbabs #dc #dc comics #anti Barbara Gordon #trying to finish the fic…I have a lot of work ahead

[evelyn-2007]

This is how I’d fix my problem with Dickbabs

Next I’d have her apologize to Helena and Bette Kane for how she acted to them out of Jealousy and possessiveness

#anti dickbabs #anti barbara gordon #barbara gordon #dick grayson #how I’d fix it #fix it #dickbabs

[sinnbaddie]

There are some dickbabs shippers who are mad and upset that there are a lot of people who don't like dickbabs especially most of the black community who love dickkory, i think it's okay if they prefer kory over the glorified white woman, not everyone is obsessed with white couples.

I’m white myself so I won’t stay too long on this topic solely because I am not in the community and don’t experience DickKory the same way someone’s who’s black would, but I will say that many toxic Barbara fans will hate on Kory for racist reasons (Koriand’r is a black woman) and then praise Babs for literally just existing

Another thing on top of the obvious and or sometimes subtle racist things is when they call Kory a whore and a slut. Koriand’r is a very progressive character for the time she was made in and that’s something Barbara’s character will NEVER have. Many people view themselves in Kory because of her comfortability in her sexuality and her underlying writing of her being black.

No this does mean someone can’t idolize Babs for being disabled, it’s just heavy hate on Kory for who she is when Babs realistically did not have that much impact on the real world with her progressive writing

#koriand'r #kori anders #starfire #anti dickbabs #anti Barbara Gordon #not necessarily but I’m not taking chances because toxic Babs stans are literally insane

[punkeropercyjackson]

"We need to normalize kindness!"You guys can't even handle that making fun of eachother isn't a sign of love for everyone because some people can't handle it so it hurts their feelings and instead call them losers for it and prove their point that you're genuinely cruel

#idc about normalcy bro i'm here to break the cycle of abuse as hard as i can #anti percabeth #antijayroy #antitodobakudeku #percy jackson #dick grayson #jason todd #tim drake #cassandra cain #damian wayne #duke thomas #barbara gordon #roy harper #anti bakugou #izuku midoriya #todoroki shouto #sokka #katara #anti zutara #zuko #aang #pro kataang #azula #antizucest #pjo #batfam #anti rhato #bnha geekery #atla geekery #summerposting

[just-an-enby-lemon]

Batfamily Members as Book Tittles

Bruce Wayne:

Alfred Pennyworth:

Dick Grayson:

Barbara Gordon:

Jason Todd:

#batfamily #anti motivational #bruce wayne #batman #alfred pennyworth #barbara gordon #batgirl #oracle #dick grayson #nightwing #jason todd #red hood

[ursie]

I do have to thank Tom Taylor for one thing: It's pretty easy to shut down conversations about the Dick Grayson shipper war now, when Barbara literally bought a shirt making fun of child abuse. (Or worse, she made it. I assume everyone can sew.)

PLS I FORGOT ABOUT THAT LITERALLY SO FUCKED UP??

#Also like. it’s a reference that doesn’t make sense in universe like.. #anti dickbabs #anti Barbara Gordon #ig?? #anti tom taylor #tw abuse

[thecruellestmonth]

Batfam™ posts are like

What are the BATFAM™'s favorite drinks?

Dick: sparkling hibiscus nectar infused with pistachio honey (bubbly and sweet just like him 💙) served in a World's Best Big Brother mug that was chipped in a hilarious incident when all three of his beloved siblings got into a wacky swordfight and sunshine big bro Dick had to make peace between them because he's a loving mother hen

Jason: vodka mixed with Earl Grey tea—in Crime Alley, street rats only ever drink alcohol because they're uneducated and miserable, but Jason also drinks tea because he's now elevated above his lowly origins (how quaint! He's Not Like The Other Poors) and to symbolize how much he LOVES his rich family

Tim: COFFEE!! brewed from a special blend of extra caffeinated Arabica beans, mixed with hazelnut non-dairy creamer (lactose hurts him just like everything and everyone in his life 😔) and one sugar cube for every hug he's ever gotten from his parents in his entire life (none) and also his tears

Damian: lemonade colored pink with Tim's blood (now Tim is dying of blood loss and it's all evil Damian's fault! how dare Damian be so cruel to Tim in this terrible scenario that I made up in my own head)

Babs:

Cass: water

Steph: water (with a bendy straw lol she's such a character)

Duke: water

#Batkids #Stephanie Brown #Cassandra Cain #Damian Wayne #Duke Thomas #Barbara Gordon #fanon vs canon #anti Batfamily #anti Batfam #Tim Drake #Dick Grayson #Jason Todd #anti Batboys #fandom discourse cw #negativity cw #Like sometimes I wonder why include characters that you are just completely disinterested in. #This blog here is like mostly Jason Todd lol. Not saying that I don't have my own faves and biases. #Even though I don't always personally enjoy WFA--I gotta give it props for not making the Batfamily revolve around the Four Batboys. #I just dislike the forced made-up 'Batboys quartet'. Dick is the only one with a bond with the other three. #Cass and Duke really bonded when they were with the Outsiders. #Jason has a fun dynamic with Duke. #Babs is the best parental figure in Cass' life. Steph is the best menace ever to Bruce and she can read him to filth. #Whatever these are my tags and I'll rant if I want to.

[trexiejan]

Why I don't like Barbara being shoehorned on the Titans.

Reasons why:

1. The main reason why she's on the team is because of Dick. Her relationship with the Titans has always been reliant on Dick. She never had any history with the Titans before retcons pushed her and dick together. She has become a character who hates being away from Dick and always wants to follow him in every mission he takes. When she's with the Titans, it only feels like it's because writers don't know what else to do with her other than making her follow Dick around like a dog.

2. It's part of the whole dickbabs agenda and dickkory erasure. Editorial loves to include dickbabs in everything and They hate the idea of Dick being paired or shipped with anyone other than Barbara. They know Starfire is Dick's other huge love interest and their relationship was a huge part of the Titans franchise. They don't like that so they want to erase that by shoehorning Barbara in the Titans and making Dick/Babs the focus on Titans stuff.

3. Barbara dumbs down the Titans so she can shine on their team.

Barbara especially as Oracle tends to be hyped up but the truth is she's not the only hacker or tech user in the entire dc universe. Titans has plenty of tech users. So in reality she's not needed by the Titans. She fills in niches that are already occupied by the Titans.

Dick - leader, martial artist, tactician, detective, tech user, hacker.

Cyborg - tech user, hacker and information broker.

Starfire - team mom

and all of the Titans are active communicators and they all know how to use a computer, and please starfire is an expert pilot, i remember she even owns a spaceship and hacked other alien ships. she knows how to operate a spaceship how much more using a computer 🙄

They don't need Barbara or Oracle's help for them to accomplish something using a computer or for them to be able to communicate to each other and reach out to other heroes.

The Titans can directly talk to each other through their communicators and earpieces and they have a huge computer at titans tower, and cyborg has all the high-tech stuff but when Barbara shows up, the Titans suddenly don't know how to call each other or use a computer, they make them rely on Oracle for communication and tech stuff.

The Titans are dumbed down to make Barbara shine as a tech user and to make her look smarter and useful to their team.

For example look at how Tom Taylor made Dick look dumb here. He had to call Barbara first and ask her to help him reach out to his own teammates when he can just call them right away on his own, it's funny because he wrote that Dick can't call his teammates directly because he lost signal yet he has the signal to call Barbara. Tom Taylor and his dumb excuses indeed 🙂

and look at Cyborg needing to be watched by Barbara as if his high-tech sensors are unable to detect the villains approaching his back, and lol Nightwing just stands there doing nothing while Barbara monitors his own teammates when that is supposed to be his job since he's their leader. He was nerfed into a lazy irresponsible leader too much that he didn't even know his own teammate is in australia. He's not even allowed to use the titans computer when Barbara is around him.

and look at Kory, she never calls Barbara while on missions before and suddenly she has no clue what to do without Barbara guiding her move???

The Titans never needed Barbara to accomplish anything on their own. They've fully functioned and communicated with each other for decades without her. They never needed to be babysat by some girl from Gotham. Barbara has never even been mentioned once in the original New Teen Titans comics but they become the most dumbest useless versions of themselves when Barbara is suddenly around, she's written in a way that makes the Titans redundant, stealing their jobs and spotlight to make herself look like a badass hero. Nightwing can't act like a real leader, Cyborg can't be the tech user of the group, Raven can't be the voice of reason, Titans can't use a computer and other tech stuff etc. because she can't shine if they do that. The only way for her to stand out on a team she has nothing to do with her is by dumbing everyone around her.

Barbara should be with her own team Birds of Prey not on a team she has nothing to do with.

4. The Titans become another Batman-related group.

We all know the story of Dick when he joined the Titans. He left Gotham and quit being Batman's sidekick because he doesn't wanna be under Batman's shadow anymore. The Titans helped him be independent from the Bats.

I don't like that Barbara keeps invading his privacy and space. The Titans is supposed to be a place where Dick can be away from the Batfamily and do his own thing.

and the Titans is Dick's own team, I don't like the idea of Barbara overriding his own agency.

She needs to do something on her own without associating herself with Dick 24/7

Plus the Bats are pretty oversaturated in DC, we don't need them overtaking Titans as well.

If another Bat related character has to show up then it has to be just one of the robins since Robin is a titan character.

Batgirl or Barbara has never been a Titan. She only ever wants to show up because of her romance with Dick. I do think Dick/Babs relationship is a mistake and that It shoudn't have happened. It's not a good relationship if you have to shoehorn it in places it doesn't belong in and dumbing down other characters along the way just for it to make sense or make Barbara's presence in Dick's life stronger than it should be.

I wish editorial didn't retcon them into lovers. Their relationship did more damage to their characters and the people around them than when they were not together.

The "His older crush that he outgrew and learned to move on from" trope was already fine. I hate that they changed that story by aging down Barbara to be the same age as Dick so they can be together instead of just letting them move on from each other.

Dick wouldn't have to stay stuck with Barbara 24/7 and Barbara wouldn't have to keep following Dick around like a dog wherever he goes if they just kept it in the past.

#dickbabs #anti dickbabs #antidickbabs #batgirl #barbara gordon #dick grayson #nightwing #starfire #koriand'r #dickkory #cyborg #titans

[batfsm]

Rant ahead on why Babs is the Bats technology expert:

It's literally time. Bruce would be the best, especially when he had Harold around, but he was/is a CEO, a father, Batman, does a lot of charity work in his free time, a 'playboy' (depending on what comic/etc), an inventor (I believe he helped come up with at least most if not alot of the stuff he uses as Batman, Dick, unless I'm proven differently, just named them, and he helps out in the R&D department of Wayne Enterprises, or is that just Tim/Lucius?), and more.

What is she? A Librarian or tech support, I think and Batgirl/Oracle. Oh, Dick's 'side piece'. (Dick's her 'side piece' also.) That's it.

If Bruce had more time he be the one doing all their technology crap. Tim also but Tim, unless I'm wrong is/was the CEO, goes to school, gets his GED, helps out with the Titans, and more.

Barbara has more time. Bruce doesn't. Tim doesn't. That's literally why she is in charge of their technology. She had/has more time to keep up with technology than either of them does.

The 'side piece'? Is because it certainly seems like that's all she is now. A damn side piece. Just like Dick is one to her. They can't put them by themselves anymore. They have to be together and they don't need to be. Both are better off apart than together.

#batman #dick grayson #tim drake #bruce wayne #barbara gordon #barbara gordon critical #anti barbara gordon #anti dickbabs #dick grayson critical #never thought i'd see the day #i write that

[rickmortyye]

Whether you agree with this article or not , you can't deny that there are So many DickBabs fans and writers who actually don’t care about Barbara as an individual character.

The current Nightwing run did very little with Barbara as an individual that’s completely unrelated to Nightwing.  In every single page of that book, She only exists to be Dick's lovesick clingy GF. 

Even in other books, she shows up just to be seen with him and will not stop mentioning him. She can't do anything without him nowadays.

What's also sad is that dickbabs shippers are fine when she's isolated from her own team and own agency as long as she gets to stay with Nightwing. None of them complained when Barbara was excluded from the recent Birds of Prey run. Her independence is sacrificed for the sake of shipping.

Barbara needs her independence back. She deserves better fans and better writers who ask for something that increases her value as a character. Not just being known as Nightwing's GF.

#dickbabs #anti dickbabs #barbara gordon #batgirl #oracle #nightwing