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blackphanto · 2 months
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Trying to overanalyze Lucifer's design
The Hazbin Hotel season 1 finale was fucking insane. I loved everything and especially Lucifer, whom I am dedicating this post to.
Let's begin with his "normal" form
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Lucifer wears a ringleader costume bc Hell is one giant circus and he's the ringleader, but did you know that there's actually more to it?
A ringmaster, -mistress or -leader is like the opening act of a circus. They show you around, introduce the other acts and keep you hooked. They are essentially the glue that keeps the circus together. Another definition of a ringmaster, -mistress or -leader talks about an actual leader who leads a group of people, mostly through the act of doing illicit or unlawful activities. A role that would suit Lilith better than Lucifer. Sins could be seen as unlawful activities in Heaven's eyes and Lucifer is the cause of how evil found its way to earth, one could say that he was the one to lead the sinners in their sinful behavior in life. Yet, in death - if we go by Charlie's storybook - Lilith was the one leading the sinners to rise up against Heaven, another illicit activity that has led to their eventual doom.
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Luci also wears a top hat with his crown on top of it. The hat gives him some extra height so I doubt that he wears it for any other reason. His crown is mostly covered with a snake and a red apple on the side. The snake can have 2 meanings: 1) how the word 'seraphim' in Hebrew can be translated to 'fiery serpent', due to his six wings, Lucifer is likely a seraph. 2) he was the serpent that tempted Eve, although never confirmed in any religious text, this idea of him being that snake is really popular in every reiteration of that story. This would also be why there's an apple motive following the Morningstars. Now let's move on to...
Angelic/demonic form
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I don't think what we are seeing here is his full angelic/demonic form, but considering that the other Princes' forms aren't as scary either it is likely the case. The first thing that caught my attention were the horns and overall resemblance this form has to Charlie's, but let's focus on the differences.
In the first image, the snake and apple have turned into some sort of halo, a nod that his actual halo has disappeared when he fell and unlike Vaggie his wings probably didn't get ripped off, but I do believe they were different to how they were when he was behind the Pearly Gates. He has a tail and horns, classic demon imagery, there are 6 eyes at the end of his coat and there's one more on his bowtie, which makes a total of 8 eyes on Lucifer's design. The eyes are a common returning motive in Heaven and with angels.Luci also has a flame in-between his horns. This honestly reminded me of Baphomet, but they would likely be a Candle head from the Sloth ring. In the Bible, fire is often depicted as the presence of God, but I'm a firm believer that Hazbin has a deistic God view (see my other post), so I doubt that's the case here. The fire was likely chosen because Hell is associated with fire and he's the king of Hell so they thought it would make sense.
Like father, like daughter
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As stated before, Lucifer and Charlie share a lot of similar elements. She's essentially him without wings and with longer hair. They both have a red sclera with a yellow iris. Their tail is pitch black with a heart cut out at the end and despite having white skin, Lucifer's arms are greyish. I always thought they were gloves, but no, man's face doesn't match his hands. I really like this shot of them right here, they look so badass!
Charlie also seems to be getting a new ability which has to do with her arm getting bigger and blocking Adam. This might be a callback to whatever was going on with her arm in her first design.
That was it thanks for reading <3
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zoeykallus · 8 months
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Hi sweety! What do you think about a short prompt of Fem!Reader and Crosshair arguing, leading to a fiery kiss (pre relationship)? Maybe she's got enough of his snark and snaps, but he just grabs and kisses her, wordlessly revealing he's just mocking her because he has a crush on the reader...? Pretty please? I can't get this fantasy out of my head. I need you to write it down, so I can go on with my life! 😅
Aloha!
Oh, I think I like this one 😂
Crosshair x Fem!Reader One-shot - Chicken Legs
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Warnings: Strong Language/Swearing/Arguing/Fluff/Slightly Suggestive
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Working with the Bad Batch is actually fun, most of the time. You get along well with the guys. With all but one. Crosshair. The Sniper seems to have made it his business to annoy and criticize you. He often gets on your nerves, constantly corrects you, checks things you've done three times and always finds something to complain about. You are all the more annoyed that Hunter has sent you off with Crosshair, of all people, to run some errands. The sergeant says, "You two need to learn to get along. I know how stubborn my brother can be, so you have to be the smarter one. Don't let him get to you. When he realizes that you are no longer interested in his talk, then you won't give him any room to attack. You drive the speeder, Crosshair sits behind you. You had a long discussion about who should drive before you left. "I'm the man, how does it look when I sit behind you?" he grumbles. You glare at him. "Seriously, that's your argument? If anyone ever doubts that we humans were once cavemen, I present you as living proof that some of us have not evolved from that time."
Your little argument goes back and forth, but in the end, you're in the driver's seat. Of course, he can't keep his mouth shut. As soon as you arrive in town and get off the speeder, he grumbles, "You're living proof that women shouldn't drive." Frowning, annoyed, you look at him. "Here we go again... What's so bad about the way I drive?" Crosshair snorts and rolls his eyes. "We don't have that much time. Maybe I should tell you what's right with it, because that list is a lot shorter." You clench your hands into fists, trying to stop yourself with sheer willpower from grabbing his collar and shaking him, "Has anyone ever told you that your toxic masculinity is really annoying?" He smirks. "Yeah, you, several times." You roll your eyes, pull out your data-pad and take a look at the list Hunter gave you. Trying to ignore Crosshair. But he won't be ignored. Cheekily, he takes the pad from your hand. "Hey!"
"Let me do it, if you have the list, we'll forget about half the things", he insists. By now, you're seething with anger. He's been teasing you and making stupid jokes since he got up this morning. "What the hell is your problem? You're not that obnoxious to others, are you?!" Serenely with a smile, he says, "Maybe you are the problem" "Fuck. You." you press out, "Listen up, Chicken Legs, if you don't stop pissing me off, you might wake up one morning with your rifle shoved deep up your bony little ass." He raises his brows in amusement and looks at you. "Well, if that turns you on, I personally find it strange, but to each their own." You raise your finger in anger, already working up another line, when he closes his hand around your finger, and you fall silent abruptly, taken aback. "What-"
His other hand grabs your chin and holds it tight. "Shut up for a moment," he says softly. You stare at him as his face gets closer and closer. Your eyes automatically close as his lips touch yours, warmer and softer than you expected. As the tip of his tongue glides gently over your lower lip, you automatically open your mouth, letting him in. Your tongues collide in a velvety collision. Fireworks go off through your body. Your pulse begins to race, your heart beats faster, your stomach begins to tingle and warmth spreads between your thighs. For a moment your mind is completely turned off, you don't think, you just feel. But as his lips slowly separate from yours and both your and his eyes open again, you kick him in the shins. Thanks to his armor, however, he barely feels it. "First you return the kiss, then you kick me?", he asks, cocking a brow at you. You say softly, "I can't stand you, you can't just kiss me".
He finally lets go of your finger, and you suddenly miss the physical contact with him. You stand there and look up at him somewhat helplessly. "Why are you always teasing me?" you ask, confused. He smirks, "It's given me your attention, hasn't it?" You sigh and say, "There's another way to do it." He nods slowly, with an irresistible smile on his lips, strokes your cheek with his knuckles and says, "Okay. I'm open to suggestions. How can I capture your attention?" You swallow, look at him almost shyly, and say, "Just keep looking at me the way you are right now, and you'll have my attention."
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aziraphales-library · 4 months
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hello lovely people!
i was wondering if there were any historical fics that specifically look at queer history? it could be just aziraphale or just crowley, them together or not together. it could be as far back as sappho and as recent as legalisation of gay marriage.
thank you!
Hi! We have #queer history, #pride parade, and #queer guardian angel aziraphale tags on which you will find fics of interest. Here are more to add to the queer history collection...
An Angel and a Demon Walk Into a Bar- and there is No Punchline Because this is the 80s and Everyone is Sad, Gay and Repressed by DontOffendTheBees (M)
“So you’re not here to dance.” Crowley ducks his head, his long and impressively voluminous hair tumbling about his face as he nudges his aviators down his nose, peering at Aziraphale with those cunning yellow eyes over the top of them. He smirks like the wily old serpent he is, savouring the next words he speaks. “Now, what else could possibly lure a confirmed bachelor such as yourself to an establishment like this?” In which Aziraphale gravitates to the comfort of a queer space, and winds up in need of further comforting.
and at least in this lifetime (we're sticking together) by vivelegalite (T)
[GOD, NARRATING] People tend to be torn as to which side could be credited with legalisation of gay marriage across all of the United States of America. Most people consider it an act of Good, which it is of course, and attribute it to Heaven. Some, a much less pleasant lot, argue it to be the work of Hell. They tend to back their claims up with improperly translated lines from a book the Almighty had never actually written or even really bothered to read through — I tend to outsource that kind of work — and speak of God’s will and whatnot. Both groups are, however, mistaken. The legalisation of gay marriage across all of the United States of America was brought about not by Heaven, not by Hell, but by a tragically smitten demon with a rather high alcohol concentration and a plan.
Eziraphael's Gifts: A History of Queer Faith and Longing, by Natasha Marie Johnson (Beacon Press, 2019). by actualbat (G)
"If Eziraphael has come to be known--in today's language--as the 'guardian angel of sad queers,' then it makes sense for him to have shown up more regularly in the past once that became a recognizable historical category." Natasha is really glad that she's given this talk enough times to be able to do it on autopilot, because those two funny-looking men in the back just made the most absurdly astonished faces. (Or: Not all historians ignore gay subtext, and not all immortal celestial beings have their shit together. Also, voodoo.)
it's the light (it's the obstacle that casts it) by bibliocratic (T)
It's like having a curtain pulled back on something he wasn't expecting to see. A surprise punch-and-judy at an up-scale restaurant, a lobster thermidor when he's ordered an ale. Crowley's gleefully trying to wrap his head around the fact that Aziraphale is speaking Polari. Because of course he is. Or: The Patron Saint of London's LGBT Community is real, and he lives in Soho.
Under the Blazing Sun, Thy Footsteps Track by Elfgrandfather (T)
Aziraphale and Crowley keep finding themselves mixed up with a rather queer lot, and eventually have to contend with what it might mean, both about their own identities and their relationship to each other.
Surpassing All the Stars by KannaOphelia (M)
There was a faint tracing of scales along the woman's cheekbones, tracing down her thin arms and lean thighs. The nipples on her pale, almost flat breasts were dark as night. Fiery red curls fell over dagger-sharp shoulders sprayed gently with more black scales, and the golden eyes were wide and snake-like. The woman was beautiful, but hardly human. "Crawly," the woman said with disgust. "Was that the best you could do, angel?" "I said I didn't have much imagination." Aziraphale's lips were heavy, and she was almost sure she wasn't forming the words properly. There was some kind of spell over her, holding her almost immobile. The venom must have been paralytic. If she had been human, she supposed she would have been dead. Her corporation didn't like it much either. "What name would you prefer I use for you?" The stranger tipped her head on one side, considering. "Crowley?" Aziraphale almost laughed. The whole situation was simply too irritating. If she was to die now, at the hands of some local deity, the paperwork hardly bore thinking about. And her precious work on Sappho's poetry, gone. "Crowley, then. You're a nymph of some kind, I take it?"
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More tf2 ships lets go
Soldier x Demoman / Boots n Bombs
Starting off with a Demoman ship cause this man does not get enough love I think. These two enable each other's stupidity to an incredible degree. They're both geniuses in the art of reckless stupidity, and with their brains and hearts combined they could be making new inventions like "ultra turbo sticky-nade launcherator" and it flings them 8 miles in the air and they die instantly (but they both cheer and think it's awesome once they're revived and they do it again. Medic doesn't care, but he's getting a bit bored of piecing together the same two bodies over and over again). These two would become masters of destruction. I also can imagine them passed out on the couch on top of each other, or Soldier waking up to do drills at 4 am and Demo telling him to fuck off (Soldier can't help it, his love language is explosives and boot camp </3). I like them a lot.
Scout x Sniper / Speeding Bullet
I will admit, I am a bit of a Scout hater when it comes to ships... Actually I'm just a Scout hater in general. However, I do think the dynamic of "annoying little shit" plus "gruff weird guy" works. Scout is the type to press his partner's buttons for the funnies (although he does this with his friends as well) but given how he was in Expiration Date as well as the Cold Day In Hell comic (if I remember right), then he would be genuinely caring and considerate toward his partner's feelings. Scout would push his buttons, but an hour later he'd be splayed out on top of Sniper and rambling about his day. Sniper is more blunt and to-the-point with affection, I think. He'd bother Scout right back, of course, and he'd just as happily sit there and nod along to whatever the hell Scout is talking about. These two would stay up until 5 am together several nights in a row.
Heavy x Pyro / Bear Grill
Since it's such a rare pair, there's some debate on what the ship name actually is. "Russian Wildfire," and "Heavy Fire" are the alternatives I've seen after scouring the tags. I'd like to toss my own suggestion in with "Firing Squad," although that could probably work for other ships too. I personally really like the hc that Pyro is (maybe aro?)ace, and I think that works well with Heavy (I also hc it/they Pyro but any pronouns work for this lil guy tbh). Heavy would support his little maniac's vested interest in fiery homicide just ignore the fact that he says he's scared of them in Meet The Pyro that's not important right now, and I think Pyro would really like watching Heavy use Sasha (the muzzle flash would be really neat in Pyro Vision). Outside of battle, I can imagine Heavy taking care of his guns while Pyro talks to him and tells a (very muffled) story. Heavy would listen to it when it talks about all the wonderful things it sees during their battles, and Heavy would maybe defend it when the other mercs start talking about how terrifying it is... Maybe. They're still very concerning.
Engineer x Heavy
There is no damn posts about this. "Heavy Metal" is a slightly popular one but "More Gun" has been suggested a lot, as well as "Mechanical Literature." I personally like More Gun(s), and I honestly really like this ship, and I feel like it works really well for the same reason that they both work well with Medic--they're both relatively calm and amicable compared to the rest of the team. I feel like Engie and Heavy would be the parents of the team, telling people to go to bed before 3 am and not to explode things in the house (it doesn't work but they can try) (and Engie probably has been the source of one or two fires but not necessarily on purpose). These two would be sickly together. Engie'd be going "good morning Misha 🥰✨" and tap Heavy's shoulder until he leans down far enough to let Engie kiss him on the cheek, and Heavy would give a quiet happy hum as Engie whistles away and they make me sick. I love them so much.
I also think that Engineer would give Heavy some absolutely monstrous artillery as a gift. They absolutely enable each other's horrific acts of bloodshed. More Gun <3
Part 1 - - Part 3
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choke-me-joey · 1 year
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31, JQ 👀
31. That's so fucking hot, say it again.
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Joseph Quinn x Reader
Content warning: 18+ content minors DNI, unprotected p in v sex (wrap it before you tap it lads), creampie, mentions of anal, drunk/tipsy but consensual sex, swearing, filth tbh, rpf (don't like, don't read!)
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"Meet me in the bathroom in 5 minutes, okay, handsome?" You whisper in your boyfriend's ear, subtly nibbling on his lobe.
Joe nearly chokes on his drink, causing a few people to look over at him concerned. The Stranger Things release party was not the time or the place for you to be talking dirty like this, especially not in that dress.
But you couldn't help yourself. The drinks were flowing and he looked far too good in that damn shirt and jacket. And you were in Brazil, for fucks sake, why not be exotic?!
You flash him a filthy smirk, kiss his cheek and saunter off to the bathroom, casting a glance over your shoulder before you leave the room to check he was following you. He shoots you a wink, placing his drink down and casually making his way over to Jamie for a quick chat so it didn't look suspicious that you two had both left the room at the same time.
Your pussy clenches in excitement as you make your way into the bathroom, locking the door behind you. A few minutes later, Joe's signature knock has you throwing open the door and grabbing him by the collar, pulling him into a fiery kiss.
Joe kicks the door shut behind him, and clumsily fumbles with the lock whilst trying to not break the kiss with you. As you hear the satisfying click, you push him up against the door, his back hitting the wood and he lets out a groan against your mouth.
"Fucking hell, Y/N, what's gotten into you?!"
"I'm hoping you'll get into me, actually," you smirk, biting your lip as your eyes rake over him. He groans as you cup him through his pants. "Want you to send me back to that party with your cum leaking out of my pussy."
Joe's eyes widen and his brow furrows in arousal, his mouth hanging open and his cock twitching in your hand.
"That's so fucking hot, say it again." He begs as you flick open the button on his pants, unzip and reach into his boxers, wrapping your hand around his already achingly hard cock. You begin to pump him slowly, making his head thump back against the door.
"I said, I want you to send me back to the party with all your cast mates and crew members with your cum leaking out of my pussy, Joe." Your voice is low and seductive as you look at him through your lashes.
"You're gonna be the death of me. Bend over that sink, babe." Joe practically growls at you, grabbing both your hands and spinning you so they are behind your back. He walks you up to the sink, pressing a large hand on your back gently to push you into position. As one of his hands holds your wrists together, the other snakes down and pushes your dress up over your ass. You watch him in the mirror, hissing as he teasingly pings the string of your g-string underwear. "Was there any point in wearing this?"
"Gotta keep some decency, Quinn." You grin at him in the mirror. He cocks an eyebrow, staring you dead in the eyes as he snaps the flimsy material and rips it clean off you. "Joe!"
"Oops," he flashes you that trademark goofy smirk that makes you weak in the knees and pockets the destroyed garment. "That's what you get for being a tease, making me sneak off to fuck you in a bloody toilet..." You watch him push his pants and underwear down and pull out his cock, giving himself a few tugs as his eyes rake over your exposed pussy and ass. You bite your lip as he drags his cock over your folds, lubing himself up with your arousal.
"Fuck, Joe, babe, please-!" You yelp, your begging brought to a swift stop as he pushes inside you. The lack of prep means a little burn as the thick mushroom head of his cock splits you apart, but it still makes your eyes roll back in your head as he gives you no time to adjust, setting a fast, rough rhythm that makes your walls flutter around him.
"Haven't got time to be nice tonight babe," Joe grunts. "Fuck, you feel so fucking good. Want me to fill you up, yeah?"
"Y-yes, fuck, Joe, please, wanna feel you cum in me!"
"Need you to cum first, okay?" His hand dips in front of you, fingers immediately finding your clit and he begins to rub it in tiny, frantic circles.
It's not long before you're crying out his name, your legs almost giving out as your orgasm washes over you. Joe lets out a string of curses as your pussy clamps down on him, and its not long before his hips are stuttering, slamming into you one more time as he empties himself inside you with a broken moan against your back to try and muffle his voice. You can feel his cock twitching as he paints your walls and it sends a shiver up your spine.
"Shit, I bloody love you." Joe lets out a breathless chuckle against your clammy skin and then places a few more sloppy kisses along your shoulder blades before pulling out.
"Mm, love you too," you mumble, drowsy from your intense orgasm. Joe can't help but think how good you look bent over the sink, dress hiked up and his load trickling out of you. He resists the urge to snap a sneaky picture on his phone for those lonely nights on his upcoming press tour.
"Hey, come on now babe, weren't you talking a big game about going back out there earlier?" Joe chuckles, tucking himself back in his pants and doing up his belt. He pulls you off the counter and spins you round to face him, and kisses you softly before adjusting your dress for you. "What was it...with my cum leaking out of your pussy, right?"
"Shh," you kiss him softly. "Go get me another drink and maybe my pussy won't be the only thing you can fill later."
"God I love you." Joe grins back at you, "Martini, right?"
"Filthy, babe."
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froggy-frogz · 2 years
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hey hey hey! heard you were low on requests.
do you think you could do one with gorillaz with a gender neutral reader who always gets flustered whenever anyone gives attention or flirts with them??
if not, totally fine too!!
love your writing btw
A/N: Nah I love writing for Gorillaz so it's totally fine lol- Also ty :)))
Gorillaz x GN!Reader
Flustered HCs
Murdoc
He's using that to his advantage.
Knows all your weak points and WILL use them against you.
Oh, you get flustered easily when he even looks at you?
Murdoc is big on PDA or touching you in general.
It doesn't matter where you are, he loves seeing you flustered.
They could all be brainstorming new music, and you're there with him, and he will pull you into his lap just to hear you make a small noise and turn red.
However, he knows you might not love getting flustered so if you ever say anything he will stop.
Now if it's someone else flirting with you and he's there? They're getting cussed out until they leave. Some things never change for Murdoc, and cussing people out if they're pushing a boundary is one.
2D
He's the exact same way.
SO, he's going to probably try to make sure you don't get flustered.
He's not one for PDA, but he will hold your hand and will hope that won't break you.
I know he's 44, but he does not act like that.
You get flustered and then he gets flustered and it's a cycle.
Literally, when either of you tries to kiss, hug, or even touch one another, it's like, bright red.
It gets better as you date him longer, but you both get flustered at times.
Russell
He thinks it's cute.
Literally the cutest thing.
Russell wouldn't mind, if anything he, like Murdoc, is going to have fun teasing you about it.
He'll flirt with you just so he can see your face brighten.
Russell makes it a daily thing like if you two weren't able to really talk much or even be around each other because of work or just day-to-day life shit, he's going to make it a priority to fluster you at least once.
Now if it's someone else?
Actually, no one would try to flirt with you with him around, Russell gives them a look and they stop dead in their tracks. Even if they did, after he gives them said look, it's not going to last long. He won't cuss them out per se, but he's not going to be polite.
Noodle
You know full well that, like her dads, that's she's going to enjoy making or seeing you flustered.
She's smooth, and I don't know if it's the influence she had growing up, but she knows what to say or to do to get that reaction from you.
She thinks that it's super cute, and will even go as far as doing stuff in public, whether it's sly kisses or taps on the butt.
She has no shame, it's ok.
If anyone tries to flirt with you, I feel like out of the 4 of them, she'd either be the calmest dealing with that person or would unleash the fiery pits of hell upon them.
It's really up to how she feels.
She comes up with really creative nicknames to call you, just to get you to blush.
Buttt you love it.
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spurgie-cousin · 3 months
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Sorry if this is a personal ask but as an ex-Christian how do you deal with the paranoia that you might go to hell when you die? I have considered myself agnostic for a while but lately I’ve been feeling like I should go back to Christianity because I am so scared of going to hell but I also feel like I should want to be a Christian for more reasons than that. Have you ever dealt with something like this? How did you handle it? Thanks and I love your blog!
Thank you! And that's a great question. The idea of going to hell got its claws in me deep as a kid so this is something I definitely struggled with even as an adult.
For me, the thing that helpe the most was just completely deconstructing and then reconstructing my idea of spirituality. A big part of that was studying other religions, particularly other types of Christianity but also Judaism, Islam, new age stuff, etc. The idea of hell can vary SO much from denomination to denomination, some believe it's not such a bad place, some believe it's temporary, and some don't even believe in it at all. It really got me thinking about how many ways the Bible can be interpreted and how even if hell was a real thing, maybe my own church's interpretation wasn't even correct. People are imperfect after all and we know religion can attract people who care more about power and control than spirituality. There are so many ways people think about the afterlife, how can I be sure what I was told is any more correct than what my Jewish neighbor, whose religion is even older than mine, believes?
Along those lines, another thing that shifted my perspective was learning that most people's idea of hell as a fiery, torturous underworld was actually not even included in the Bible but invented by a poet and philosopher named Dante Alighieri. Even Biblical scholars consider the poem in question to be complete fiction, but the idea burrowed its way into our collective psyche through other fictional media like movies and stories.
I think another thing that has been really important for me personally is defining my morality outside of the Christian idea of it. Basically sitting down with myself and deciding what few things, if any, I know are almost certainly true about myself, people, the universe etc. One of those things I decided was that despite my flaws, I do not think I am inherently bad (as my church had told me). I know that I do my best to be kind, fair, and always try to be a little better than I was the day before, even on the days I don't do it as well as I'd like. From that perspective, the idea that a supposedly benevolent creator would send me to eternal suffering for breaking a few arbitrary rules starts to feel less and less like the truth. If there is a God and he knows everything about me (and is not a masochist) he knows my heart and intentions.
There's definitely more but this has gotten long lol so I'll stop there for now. I guess the tl;dr of this all would be, to try to reframe your idea of spirituality as a whole. Learning about different kinds of spirituality, doing some serious self-reflection, and being very honest about it will help you do that, which can help you get out of your old ideology's grip. I hope any of that makes sense or can be helpful in some way ❤️ let me know if there's anything I can clear up, if you have other questions, or want to talk about it more
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soapofbar · 11 months
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I said in my previous post related to RWBY that I stopped watching after Volume 8, because what happened to Penny and how she was treated throughout the volume was very, very distasteful to me. It's the biggest reason, although there are also a bunch of smaller reasons surrounding it. This is still true, I haven't watched V9 and I don't really plan to. I may, some day, out of curiosity/boredom, but I have somewhat been kept in the know even as I move onto other things due to still knowing people who are interested in RWBY, along with fandom talk and all that.
The main thing I want to talk about is the supposed message of V9, and how it relates back to Penny. More specifically, how it strikes as hypocritical and tone-deaf after everything that happened to her.
The core message of V9, as stated by Kerry on Twitter and pretty much blasted at the viewer in the volume's finale, is that you are enough, just the way you are. Ruby chooses to be herself rather than trying to emulate her mother/be the flawless leader/etc. and she's able to get back up and save the day. It's an alright message to send.
The problem: What about Penny?
Penny, in V2, expresses some self-doubt about an android. Feeling that she isn't as real as the actual flesh and blood humans around her, she's comforted by Ruby that she's just as much of a real girl as anyone else, and from then on she doesn't seem to express any discomfort about being a robot. She seems quite happy to be one, even, as she rebukes May for simply calling her "Robo-Girl" in V8E3
Then V8E12 comes around, and the text all but implies that Penny is a girl trapped in a robot body. Ambrosious expresses concern at what's left when he strips all the robot parts from her and Blake replies that there will be "Penny, the girl who's always been there underneath". Yang holds her metal arm and says that those pieces are just "extra". That being a robot doesn't define Penny and it's not who she is and the implication is that it's even holding her back. She's then turned into a real girl by Ambrosious. A thing, which, to my memory, she never asked to have happened to her.
Hell, the whole process is very similar to ascension in the Ever After, even. Penny's original body dies and in it's place is a new, "better" one.
The implication here is the opposite of what V9 is trying to say. That Penny isn't enough. That she's not "perfect just the way she is". The robot parts are just "extra" after all (they're not, and I will always hate that line with a fiery passion).
It's just...it feels so incredibly, incredibly jarring. Penny's arc in V8 was already incredibly bad, and full of ableism, and then we turn around and apply a message which COULD work for Penny and is probably even the one she should have had with her arc...and apply it to the conventionally-bodied protagonist who never had to struggle with her entire person-hood. Who never had to question if she was even a human being or not.
It's just all so frustrating. Penny deserved so much better.
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-Oh my god, if you ever get into a bar fight with someone, he just wraps one arm around your waist, lifts you up, and kinda situates you on one hip? And just walks around like "Nope, ladybudy, we are not getting arrested tonight"
Omg I need to see this scene as it’s own thing…?! How would he react to reader being a little spicy jalapeño after too many drinks and too many rude a*holes?
not me asking bc I too have a temper hahahahahaFUCKhahaa
- @liz-allyn
Hi @liz-allyn I am tipsy and got this idea in my head and couldn't get it out soooo here we are this is pure crack have fun ♥️♥️♥️
As Peter turns around after getting his drink from the bartender, he goes on high alert at the realization that you are no longer by his side.
He quickly scans the bar, reminding himself to look both up and down due to how short you are.
He finds you. You've just downed your drink and from the way you're talking with your hands at the person across from you, Peter knows you're feeling the effects of your drinks.
It's when you shake your head and put a finger up at them, your mouth clearly forming the word "no", that Peter begins to make his way through the crowd.
The last thing he needs is trying to fight someone without showing off that he had super strength. As Peter got closer, he could begin to hear your conversation.
"How....like how on God's green Earth, could you think they deserve that?" You said.
"You just have to look at them! It's so obvious!"
You shook your head. Peter could see the anger bubbling up.
Oh God, you were pointing your index finger at them and saying no.
"How....how?! You're wrong. You are so fucking wrong. I have never heard a person say one wrong thing, right after the other."
"You're reading way too into this." Peter could tell they were starting to get frustrated. He did his best to move in-between the sea of people.
"And you are taking such a shallow approach to this!"
"It's just a movie."
"Ryan and Sharpay deserved those roles more than Troy and Gabriella!"
Oh God not this again.
At first, it was cute how fiery and passionate you would get when intoxicated. But then you put your hands on someone after they suggested Shrek was better than Shrek 2. Peter had to get you out of there quick.
"They sung the song the way Kelsey wanted it to be sung!"
"But Breaking Free is a bop."
"The way Kelsey had it was boring as hell. You're telling me you would have wanted to sit through that boring ballad? Ryan and Sharpay had the vision, they knew they needed to spice it up because they actually did theatre! They didn't just try it out on some whim!"
Before he met you, Peter had never seen the film. Your passionate rants were one of the many things he loved about you.
He just loved it a little less when you got drunk and threw drinks at people over it.
"That Ryan and Sharpay would have nailed! Could Troy and Gabriella pull off Bop to the Top? Absolutely not!"
"Ryan and Sharpay were shitty people!"
You looked ready to lunge at the person's neck.
Which was Peter's cue to step in.
"Alright ladybug, it is time for us to go! I am so sorry. Good thing she's cute, right?" Peter joked to the person you had been arguing with.
"No, we are not leaving until I knock some sense into-"
"Oh yes we are!" Before you could protest, Peter had one arm wrapped around your waist. He lifted you off the ground, your hip awkwardly resting on his.
"Sorry about that dude, she gets really passionate about her film opinions!" Peter whispered before turning around.
"Do not apologize to that person! They have shit taste!" You yelled over the music, "They probably think Glinda is a good witch!"
"She is!" You tried to turn around, but Peter's grip tighten as he walked out of the bar.
"Ladybug, I love you so much. But we are not getting arrested because of High School Musical."
"But Sharpay and Ryan-"
"Deserved those roles over Troy and Gabriella. Absolutely."
"See? You understand," you sighed and leaned your head into the crook of Peter's neck. Peter sighed, happy that you two were finally out of the crowded bar.
"We gotta start walking home now, okay?" He explained. You nodded your head.
"I'm.....I'm going to put you down now." You nodded your head again. Peter on the other hand, still maintained his grip on your waist. Your feet were still dangling above the ground.
"I know," You sighed.
".....We are not going back into the bar," Peter explained, his voice stern. You simply nodded your head.
Peter gently placed you back on the ground. After you stood there for a few moments, he removed his hand from your waist.
"They said Glinda was good, they need to understand she's a bitch!" You called out as you ran back into the bar.
Peter ran after you, calling your name. He should know better by now.
He'd be carrying you all the way home this time.
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itsclydebitches · 1 year
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Anyone else find it odd that we got this whole table of the dead deal when, really, just Penny would have sufficed? Putting aside the fact that Neo shouldn't know half of what happened to these characters (she's reading from the same script that let Oscar know the wording of Weiss' wish), more than half of this group means nothing to Ruby:
Lionheart she met twice, the second time when he was trying to kill her and her friends. Ruby didn't even fight him personally. He dies in another room, out of sight, and last we hear of him it's through Yang's fury that Ozpin didn't rat him out as a traitor to the whole world - an anger Ruby isn't shown to disagree with.
Roman is an enemy from six Volumes ago. Though Ruby was (understandably) shocked when he was eaten in front of her, the trauma of that has had zero impact on her and, as she points out to Neo in this very scene, she recognizes that she wasn't at fault for his death.
Ruby never had a relationship with Clover. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. They might have as team leaders, but they didn't. Ruby sat with him in a truck once, not talking to him, and then she didn't fight him at the end of the Volume because he was busy dying off in the tundra. Does Ruby know he was killed pre-Fall of Atlas? She shouldn't.
Ozpin, technically speaking, isn't dead. Or rather, I should say Ozma isn't. I'd better understand the choice to have him here if we'd learned anything about Ozpin himself - meaning, Ozma's host pre-Oscar - but we haven't. More importantly, I likewise would have bought his presence if Ruby had maintained her wholesome student-teacher relationship with him (RIP I miss those days. Oh my god I miss them!! I might have to write some moreRWBY fic just to have that again 😭), but now Ozpin is just the lying manipulator she only speaks to for exposition.
Ironwood is, you know... the villain? The guy we were supposed to despise by Volume's end because he was a crazy dictator hell-bent on bombing a city? The scene even keeps his ~evil~ prosthetic arm, emphasizing that this is villain!Ironwood, not ally!Ironwood. Ruby lied to him the second they landed, said 'fuck you' over the call to Penny, sent her friends to jump him while she made a wish, and didn't look back as she dropped a city on top of him. Oh, and then Yang reminded her that only #bad people re-think their choices. So, why is he someone whose death she'd feel guilt over?
The ONLY people who make sense here are Penny and Pyrrha, with Penny taking center stage as the death Ruby just found out about. She alone would have been enough: a magical, semblance Penny who reams Ruby out for letting her die, again, too busy getting her ass kicked by Cinder to be of any use. We might have even done something interesting with Penny's sword. You know, the real one Ruby had for all of ten episode minutes before she let a bratty Prince throw it away? Give me Ruby wielding her dead friend's weapon - because clearly the show wasn't willing to commit to a Crescent Rose aversion. Just have it be lost all Volume. Why was this armorer introduced again? Shouldn't she have done something with a lost weapon?? - until fake!Penny horrifically calls her out on it. How dare you use that? How dare you use it against me? Give me an actual battle where Ruby is torn between defending herself against something she knows isn't real and flinching from hurting the friend she just lost, taking hits she would have been able to block if she was putting forth her all, a bloody, Maiden battle that goes on long enough that it makes sense when her semblance breaks.
Then, suddenly, Penny grows kind... it's okay, Ruby... if you just let go, drink the tea, we can be together again. Wouldn't that be nice?
The issue of this suicide metaphor aside, we could have gotten something legitimately impactful. Instead I'm scratching my head over this suddenly using Crescent Rose again, fiery "If you're looking for an apology, you've wasted your time!" still a prodigy, didn't fight in the last battle, didn't even walk very far Ruby collapsing because she fell from a chandelier. Meanwhile, the emotional kicker is that she's getting beat up by... people she hates? Who she barely knew? Who aren't even technically dead? Oh no, I've slashed Oscar, who I KNOW is back in Remnant, presumably safe in Vacuo. I know Ruby is at her breaking point, but the combination of 'Come fight me, Neo, I'm perfectly able to see that I'm not responsible for Roman's death!' and the lack of connection between her and 5/7s of the guilt crew really falls flat. Either give me a Ruby who illogically, but honestly believes that her presence makes everything worse - 'You're right, Neo... I could have saved Torchwick... done something, but I just sat there...' - or a Ruby who is still able to distinguish between reality and guilt... up until the copy of her newly dead friend drags her to emotional hell and back. Now that I've been able to think about it for a bit, what we got feels downright weird to me - an excuse to bring back characters/get them in the new engine, rather than any compelling reasons for why they're there.
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dutifullynuttywitch · 2 months
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Sisterly advice
Wake the Dead fanfic
Pairing: Brynn Archer / Eva Archer (sisters)
@choicesfebruary2024 Prompt: Family
Summary: Eva and Brynn Archer enjoy a rare day off in the Tower.
Word count: 1,200
Rating: Teen
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Today has been an almost perfect day, Eva Archer reflects.
She’d had the day off from pest control. Brynn and her crew were also on a rare break from scouting.
She and Brynn had woken up late, enjoyed a half decent meal for a change – scavengers had brought back apples from a nearby grove – and spent the afternoon playing cards with Cassidy, Dirk, Troy and Mack.
Even Troy had refrained from cheating, mostly. He’d slipped her a couple of aces under the table when her pile of chips had run dangerously low, grinning charmingly at Cassidy’s amused smirk, the others oblivious to the maneuver.
This was about as perfect a day as she could hope for within the confines of the Tower.
Her wandering thoughts sour at that.
The Tower.
Forever cooped inside a large, windowless, oppressive bunker. Surrounded by too many people, all busy eking out a living, oblivious to the world around them, living and working under the flickering of artificial neon lights.
Of course, there were bright spots in that otherwise bleak world.
Her Sister Brynn and her scouting crew, Cassidy, Dirk, Brianna. Their quirky friend Mack. And Troy, her best friend and partner in crime. They had become her adopted family. Made her existence in the Tower more bearable.
Eva dreams of being able to head out and see the world. Feel the grass between her toes again. Visit some old world relics she faintly remembered from her childhood and would avidly read about in Troy’s magazines - amusement parks, libraries, museums... She wants to swim in the sea. Feel the warm, salty breeze on her face.
Eva barely remembers life before the drones, before the Tower. She had been so young when people had started to change, when they’d lost their fathers and had been forced to flee. Brynn, still a child herself, taking on the parenting role.
“Hey! Earth to Eva! What are you daydreaming about?”
It’s the main reason she wants to become a scout so bad. To Brynn’s immense displeasure. Too dangerous, she’d growl, shutting down every attempt at a conversation.
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Brynn pulls her out of her reverie with a light tug. Both sisters are sitting cross-legged on Brynn’s bottom bunk, the older sister’s hands nimbly working on braiding Eva’s fiery red hair.
“Nothing... I just.. I’m realizing, I’m starting to forget what the outside world looks like, feels like...” Eva murmurs, looking at her hands.
Brynn freezes, a pained look on her face.
“Eva...”
“And I know what you’re going to say, outside is dangerous, full of drones. And I know you’re right, I’m not trying to minimize the danger. But still, you get to actually leave this place for a while, breathe fresh air, feel the sun on your face... The last time I saw any of the outside world was when Troy ...”
Eva clamps her mouth shut, realizing she’d said too much.
“When you what? Eva, when the hell did you see the outside world with Troy?!” Brynn rounds on her, furious.
“It’s not like we left the tower or anything, Brynn! A... a few months ago, he took me to see the northern lights up on one of the top floors. We may have snuck back up a few times since... but only at night, with no one around to see us, I swear!”
“Are you kidding me, Eva?! Do you have any idea what’ll happen if Blackstock’s people find you sneaking into off limit areas? And after curfew at that?! God, I don’t know who's the worst influence between the two of you.”
Brynn stares at her, furious, then lets out an amused chuckle.
“You know, I thought the two of you were sneaking around making out or something. Was working myself up to the birds and bees talk. I definitely did not suspect late night stargazing. You’re such dorks!”
“Making out?! Birds and - what on earth gave you that ridiculous idea?” Eva splutters, face heating up.
“Oh come on, little sis, I’m not blind. I can see how you look at each other. And the not-so-subtle flirting.”
Wait, what does Brynn mean about Troy looking at me like… Eva’s mind spins as she thinks back to their daily interactions. His charming smile, his soft brown eyes sparkling with mischief and affection…
Nah, he’s just being friendly, as he’s always been. My best friend, nothing more, nothing less.
Could they ever be something more?
She shakes the thoughts away.
Brynn smirks, enjoying her sister’s discomfort a little too much.
“I don’t know what you’re talking about,” Eva mumbles, “Troy's just a friend. Besides, he’s a huge flirt. And a goofball. And an ass more often than not. He’s really not my type.”
“Uh Huh. You keep telling yourself that.” Brynn smiles, amused.
“Okay, since we’re going there, what about you and Dirk? I see the way he looks at you. The guy worships the ground you walk on!” Eva turns towards her big sister, a mischievous sparkle in her eyes.
Brynn becomes serious, a little hesitant.
“Dirk and I... It’s complicated. I know he cares about me. And I do have… feelings. But when you’re out with someone risking your lives on a near daily basis, you need to fully trust them. Right now, we have a great dynamic going with him, Cassidy, Brianna. We have each other’s backs, but we also know none of us will hesitate to do the hard thing if one of us got bit. If Dirk and I became something more, I’m worried it’d cloud our judgement if things went south...”
Eva takes in the admission, brows knitted, then grabs her big sister in a crushing hug.
“Brynn, you deserve happiness. And love - even if it’s with someone as grumpy as Dirk.”
Brynn scoffs at that, but Eva continues.
“I swear, you’re always putting everyone’s needs and wellbeing ahead of yours. Even the damn job. You’re always looking out for me -”
“It’s my job, even though you don’t make it easy, you brat!”
“Well, if you weren’t such a stuck-up ass all the time ...”
“Watch it, lil sis...” Brynn growls, eyes narrowing in warning.
“Or what? You gonna -”
Eva squeals as Brynn lunges at her, jumping off the bed. She ducks as a pillow sails right above her head.
“I swear Eva, I don’t know how I even put up with you.” Brynn mutters, getting up to grab her boots.
“’It’s cause you loooove me!”
“You’re lucky we’re related or you’d be out on your ass. Now get a move on or we’ll miss evening rations.”
“Yeah yeah.” Eva smirks.
She suddenly turns serious, pensive.
“For what it’s worth, Brynn, I get your concern that letting someone in may… complicate an already good thing. But if you don’t, you can also miss out on the chance of something amazing.”
Brynn stops to ponder. Then smirks.
“Wait, actual words of wisdom from my little sis? I guess you did learn something in between all your suspensions. Any chance you’ll follow your own advice?”
“… I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
“Riiiight.”
Eva rolls her eyes, wrapping an arm around Brynn to give her a hug.
Brynn reaches up and playfully rubs her knuckles on her sister’s head.
“Ouch! Brat!”
Both sisters giggle and tease each other as they head out into the labyrinth of neon-lit hallways.
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bugeyedfreaks · 5 months
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Hi, hello! I have something to say.
For the fandom and the rowdyruff boys. I went through your page and found myself agreeing hardcore with a lot of your opinions about the fandom and ppgxrrb.
First of all, I have absolutely no idea of who came up with Butch growing up to be a massive pervert. Going off the show, wouldn't technically all three of the boys be massive perverts? They are all misogynistic slime balls who see girls as inferior.
Some things I think the fandom gets right; the boys are pretty. at least cute. For two reasons, 1; they are splitting images of the girls, so if the boys are ugly then so are the girls. 2, canonically, Bubbles has admitted that she finds Boomer "cute." Also despite the ass kicking handed to the girls in the first appearance of the rrb, Blossom and Bubbles fawn at the prospect of having kissed a boy.
Then again they kissed Harry.
Also, I think a good argument is kid rrb IS cute, but they get that sort of golden child treatment where all 3 of them just eventually end up burning out. They don't care to keep up with themselves and with how gross and mysoginistic they are, they become very unattractive very quickly. They rot, basically. Also if they were discord mods, they'd have kittens they brag their rrb title too.
I will also argue that there is nuance in the boys. Boomer atleast, which is funny because he is the least popular rrb. There are many instances where he is depicted as "naive", "child like" and even "gentle." Like yeah, he was the guy who wrote "Flowers are pretty... dumb" but when he was revived from Him, he was waving at butterflies and being taken advantage of by his brothers. If you wanna go deeper, in the comic the boys actually team up with the girls in one instance.
Still, I see the rowdyruff boys in the same vein as the gang green gang. It's like trying to defend Billy because he has that one episode where he saves the girls after setting them up, but it's like people forget that the girls still had to pummel him because... in the grand scheme of things, the guy is a shitty person! The rrb suffer from major pretty privellege and being the hetero counterparts of the girls, age included. Forget all the other side characters like Elmer, Mitch, Robin even mike! No the gorls grow up to want the boys because, 'they can change them!' Oh my gosh Bubbles suffers drastically from this.
And "the reds" are so toxic it's sad. It's like every fic with them is angsty and incredibly shallow. I never get why Blossom spends so much time running back to Brick. Oh yeah! It's because he's so big and hot now, with fiery red hair and a masculine jaw line, and is cunning and calculative and he suffers from severe mommy issues. He needs a woman like Blossom to show him how much of a prick he is! To put him in his place and tell other women off who have interest in him, because how could a woman lower her standards so much for a punk, Blossom would never (#FEMINISM). Then arranging "private visits" with him so they can make out and talk about how arrogant they both are because "ooh. We're so bad for each other but it feels soooo good. So deep. so bad."
I love how the fandom pretends Blossom is above it all, but still some how succumbs to him. "She can fix him guys! No really! We just have to make Blossom into an absolute self-contradicting prude and have Brick loosen up because... convenience!"
And people seriously bend the hell out of Butch to get him to work with Buttercup, more than 90% of the fics basically make him into a Mitch stand in with powers but this one is hotter2.0. bUTCH LITERALLY HAS NO CHARACTER AND HONESTLY, Buttercup has been repulsed by him many times. She'd yeet that guy so fast, and yet, somehow, the greens are the most popular couple I CAN NOOOOOOOOOT. Like how... really. Why does Butch get so much fanon development? The fandom tries so hard to make him into this character he simply is not! Like even going to the city of clipsville episode, the most salacious thing the fucker has done is "looked at a magazine and whistled!" But like how come Buttercup is so smitten by this that she never, once, snaps out of her "attraction" to the guy? Was this not the same issue Buttercup suffered from ACE.
Wouldn't the idea of being taken advantage of by a villain, turn Buttercup off!?
I just can not imagine Buttercup tolerating Butch- unless he is super hot now and she's internally attracted to him, because nobody gets her like this deprived fuck boy who is misunderstood, and actually a romantic guy who cares about her under it all and blood thirsty- excpet when Buttercup is around, because Buttercup can fix him and "he knows not to mess with her!"
It was so funny seeing the push back for the cw's take, when literally reading that script reminded me of all the fanfics I have had to dig through for YEARS now. I was just thinking "but isn't this what you guys WANT?" And some people were even fretting that it'd attract unwanted parts of society to the fandom. Um. I don't know if the ppg fandom is aware of this, but the fandom is already FLOODED with unwated fans, from fetish artists, to those Pintresest face claim boards that remind me of RIVERDALE, the games have already started!
That one slip of a comic, that was supposed to be a joke, of the boys handing the girls flowers and asking to be their boyfriends is way too meta.
Oh, wow, I didn’t know a lot about how some of the pairings are portrayed (obviously, since I don’t really explore that side of the fandom often) but… well, some of that certainly gave me psychic damage, especially the Blossom stuff. 🤢 I can’t even begin to express the pain I felt from reading all of that but this is the closest I can attempt to describe it with:
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I agree that all of the boys would be huge pervs, but I think Butch at least being the perviest would track. If, being Buttercup’s counterpart, he also expresses extremes in his primal emotions, that would just be another primal emotion he’d express to the extreme. Just in super gross ways no girl would ever find appealing.
As for Billy, I will sort of defend him because, out of the entire gang, he has a peanut brain (affectionate), and I think, without the influence of the other guys, he would be a good boy. He still definitely needed to get punished for what he did to the girls though. 🤣 But yeah, I think the main difference between the GGG and the RRB is that, if separated, the GGG could… potentially… be good, and have been shown to have varied nuance, whereas the RRB are Pure Evil and Like That no matter what, and there’s like 100% less nuance to them.
But you’re so right about the CW thing, it really did feel a bit like the kind of stuff people have been writing for years. Also, yeah, wow, despite PPG fandom being rather fractured, it has unfortunately already suffered from a lot of, to put it politely, unpleasantness. If “unwanted” fans flooded in… well, what else is new? 😮‍💨
…man, there was a lot here, and I appreciate it all, and agree with a lot of it. Thank you for the ask! 💖
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What will happen if the Hazbin Hotel characters ever meet our beloved Hellboy?
Ah okay, I don't know Hellboy too well so I asked my lovely mother to enlighten me on the subject, she's most famliar with the two movies that came out a while back so I'll be going off of that version for this, and I'll be doing the main seven Hotel residents too.
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I don't think Hellboy would be too interested in the hotel, it's a strange spot yes but he's mostly got his own business to handle most of the time, but curiosity gets the best of him so he stops by.
I feel him and Charlie would have a very awkward dynamic, he doesn't see a lot of good in the world, especially down here, meanwhile Charlie is hopeful despite the horrors she knows. He'd be nice to her, but he'd still be pretty sarcastic even if he decided to help her in anyway.
Also not sure how Hellboy would relate to the Vivzie's hell's hiearchy. He may be related to Charlie even but I don't know XP
Vaggie I feel he'd like a lot. At least her attitude. Very no nonsense and fiery, a lot like Liz. He respects her passion and fighting skills if they ever spar. He get's her a lot more then Charlie if he's being honest.
Not sure Hellboy's view on Spiders, but he'd probably not entertain Angel's advances in the slightest. He's already got someone and he ain't interested. If Angel stopped then I feel they'd have decent chats at the very least. Hell he'd probably also think Fat Nuggets is cute so theres something else to bond over.
He is INSTANTLY best buds with Husk. Both are very sarcastic and dry, with short tempers and could probably spend hours talking shit about stuff, and also Husk is a cat. And Hellboy LOVES cats, probably would wanna hug Husk a lot cause he's so fluffy which his friend is very confused about.
Alastor he does not trust one bit, most they'd probably get civilly is them trying to roast each other as they glare at each other, or fighting to prove dominance, Hellboy very much wanting to smack the smile off of Al's face, if they settle enough to at least talk they'd also talk shit about people.
He is honestly a little unnerved by Nifty, she moves so fast it scares him and he's half sure she's a larger tooth fairy waiting to pounce, and her wide smile does not help that idea, he keeps his gun ready to pull round her.
At first he doesn't trust Pentious in the slightest, he's dealt with enough crazy megalomaniacs to have his guard up, one even used clockwork machines so he's even more cautious, but upon realizing Pentious is pretty incompetent in actually being evil, he starts to tease him and both warm up to eachother, still playfully bickering at times. I also feel Pentious would get along really well with the steam guy from the second movie so theres that XP
Overall I feel the hotel would be an odd bag of dynamics for him, probably helping out if he can. And maybe introducing his friend group to the hotel crew eventually, I don't know what else but I like this idea.
I quite liked doing this, hadn't thought about Hellboy in a while so I liked doing this. Hope this was good!
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voltfruits · 11 months
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I dunno if u will answer this. But i want to know about your sunburn take(this is definitely not an excuse to gather some inspiration)
i'm always happy to talk about sunburn!! i'm not sure exactly what you're asking for.. like my general thoughts on the ship? headcanons? idea of what their dynamic is like? i'll do my best to get my general thoughts out, but feel free to let me know if there's other stuff you want me to add :))
i think the main appeal of Sunburn for me is that they're both mentally unwell together while also having complementary personalities that help the other partner better manage their mental illness. they're both weird loser outcasts who have issues with intimacy and emotions, but Sunny is patient and attentive with Aubrey and helps her stay calm, and Aubrey keeps Sunny grounded in the real world and gives him the strength take care of himself. so you get a healthy dose of "this couple fucks everything up together" which is fun and relatable, but it also gives you so much room to explore them growing and healing together.
i think Aubrey would try really hard to stay in touch with Sunny after the true ending, even though she's upset with him for a while. she train-hops into the city late in the summer just to see him and work out some messy post-Truth emotions, and then they stay in touch through email during the school year. Sunny's old childhood crush reawakens itself very fast now that Aubrey's showing so much care for him—actually, I'd argue that the crush never really went away.
Sunny comes back to visit sometimes, too. and when he does, he and Aubrey will always sit on the swings together and talk, just like old times. i think a lot about the game's implications of the swingset being a big heart-to-heart spot for them. it's only a short time before their conversations start to feel free and natural again. they just get each other.
after Aubrey graduates high school, she moves into the city where Sunny lives and gets a job in construction/freelance handywoman stuff. Sunny still lives with his mom, and he's studying for his GED and making a little money as a freelance illustrator on the side. they spend a lot more time together, Aubrey takes Sunny out on bike rides and reminds him to take his meds, and Sunny and his mom have Aubrey over for dinner several nights a week (she's definitely living paycheck to paycheck at this point, sadly, she needs all the help she can get 😔). and this is around the time where Aubrey starts to fall for Sunny in return. she sees how much he's growing into his own person and coming out of his shell, and how badly he wants to be there for her and help her out.
in the years that follow, Aubrey and Sunny finally work through their feelings and start dating, Aubrey goes to trade school and starts working as an electrician or auto mechanic (better job, better money!), and she and Sunny get their own apartment together, and a cat :) adulting is hard for them at first! dinners are burned, bathrooms are flooded, rent deadlines are nearly missed. but they have a hell of a time, and they have each other, and they survive and then thrive. at some point i will write a fic that explores all this is fuller detail. but that's the general gist.
as to what their general endgame dynamic is like: they're both pretty quiet and subtle people in demeanor/appearance, but they're a little wild on the inside. Aubrey's hair is back to black with a single pink streak, and she has a love of leather jackets and earrings and tattoos; Sunny's evolved into a sort of tasteful goth/dark academia aesthetic. they both like listening and observing more than talking. they both keep a lot journals and talk about deep meaning-of-life shit. they do tons of parallel play, and parallel work. Sunny talks more than he used to, but he can be spacey and shy sometimes, which makes Aubrey very protective of him. she's mellowed out, but she can still get a little fiery when she thinks someone's giving Sunny a hard time. they're not overly showy with PDA, but they're almost always holding hands. and they can both understand how the other is feeling without needing to exchange a word.
i also think that Sunny and Aubrey both like being artsy together :) Sunny is an illustrator by trade, but Aubrey also likes to draw and paint with him. and she casually plays guitar, and Sunny does a little music production stuff here and there.
lastly, even in timelines where they don't end up dating each other, i think Aubrey is also the first person Sunny goes to when he's confused about his gender and/or sexuality. if the mystery potion is any indication, he's definitely thought about being a girl to some degree, or being something in between. so at some point after Aubrey moves to the city, they're up late one night talking, and Sunny admits that he wishes he was a girl sometimes, but not all the time? and Aubrey is the only girl he's really close with so he figures it's best to get her opinion. and it takes many more years before Sunny actually puts a label on how he feels (probably genderfluid), but Aubrey is there with him every step of the way (she's an active participant in the city's punk/queer subculture so she's very accepting!!!).
so yeah. that's some of my sunburn word vomit. i love them endlessly, in case u can't tell :')
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TW: Suicide mention, KOSA, venting and ranting.
I'm going to scream. I swear to fucking god.
Firstly, I find out about KOSA this morning and nearly went insane. Whoever thought about this goddamn project is wrong on so many levels. I hope they don't pass the bill this year. Actually, I hope this project gets thrown in the fiery dump where it belongs and never gets brought up again. I nearly lost it, and if it happens I'm gonna be miserable and in so much trouble.
The "genius" who came up with KOSA and the fuckers who actually support this pathetic idea that came from the pits of hell are genuinely insane and deserve to burn. I don't care if I sound rude, KOSA and the idiot who made it deserve all my massive hatred, anger and death threats. Because why are you taking away the only fucking thing I have in this world to cope with? Why are you taking away my privacy and my rights? Why are you taking away my chance to escape from the real world for a brief moment, why is my chance to talk to my friends being taken away?? If you really want to "represent" us, then give us back our freedom and LISTEN TO US. FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Clearly this wasn't put into much thought at all and you are toying around with our mental health, because the consequences for KOSA are going to be fatal. Not only are the kids in danger from their information being leaked to their parents (parents nowadays are terrible and abusive in general, and the internet is LITERALLY OUR SAFE SPACE), but this is going to increase suicide numbers. And if I don't keep my shit together I might end up joining that cursed number too, maybe you'll change your mind then. Nah because this is the only way you adults are ever gonna learn your goddamn mistakes! Because you never listen to us kids, you're always "oh-so superior and all-knowing and basically an adult"
This project will cause a lot of damage to the kids' mental health and you're basically going to witness a high decrease of the population. Ain't no way most of us are going to survive this if the bill gets passed. Ever thought about that??
I'm genuinely too upset about this. The thought of never fucking having privacy or talking to my friends again (WHILE HAVING IN MIND A FEW OF THEM ARE FUCKING SUICIDIAL AND I TALK THEM OUT OF IT) is tormenting enough.
Please, for the love of god, keep spreading awareness about this terrible issue. Do anything please let's just never let this happen.
Secondly, I am genuinely upset with Tumblr's new desktop page design or whatever. It gives me claustrophobia, it isn't spacious and neat anymore, instead it's a mess.
What does the Tumblr staff try to accomplish with this pathetic design? Because it's so hilarious./neg
Everybody hates it. There's no way they're gonna keep this up for long, stop taking our comfort space and turning it into something pathetic and unusable. Seriously. Stop giving us more stress when we're just trying to enjoy our own day and casually check the notifications and have fun talking to friends.
This new design? I hate it. It's terrible for my eyesight and it makes me want to quit because I swear to god, that's how you make me feel everytime pathetic, unnecessary changes are made. This isn't even Tumblr anymore, dear staff. You're slowly ruining it, you're ruining my home. Tumblr always was everybody's home, stop turning it into Twitter 2.0. Please. Respect the users' wishes and let this app be the way it used to be. People love it the way it is, get rid of this new design and bring back the old and neat desktop page design.
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Why Charlie is NOT a Good Friend to Vaggie: Hazbin Hotel Rant And Analysis
Hey y’all! So....y’all remember when I made my “Why Stolas is NOT a good dad” post? Well, it’s finally time to do the same thing again, this time analyzing the relationship between Charlie and Vaggie, and sharing why I think Charlie is not a good friend. FRIEND, because they were canonically written as friends in the pilot until Viv changed it last minute. Also, Charlie was originally intended to have a DIFFERENT love interest, until Viv changed it, yes she confirmed that. Before I start, I want to say that I have NOTHING against people who ship these two. I still ship them myself, I believe their relationship has a chance to grow and be better, so the reason I am making this post is NOT to jab at people who ship them and tell them not to, I’m just expressing my personal opinion, and why I have an issue with them. Remember, don’t let my opinions ruin your love for the show. Thank you. With that out of the way, let’s get started!
So when it came to Charlie and Vaggie’s relationship in Hazbin Hotel, I of course used to like it. When the trailer came out, their dynamic seemed cute, with Charlie being an innocent pure bubbly gal, and Vaggie, while being more aware and emotional, cared about her deeply. I used to also look at Viv’s old art of them, so they seemed like a cute couple. However, all that changed when the pilot came out.
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Before we get to the actual pilot though, just WHO are these characters? And yes, I know if you’re reading this you must OBVIOUSLY know, but it’s part of the analysis. So, who is Charlie? Charlie is the daughter of Lucifer, king of Hell. She is the princess who was born in hell, a gal who is the opposite of her father. She is kind hearted, optimistic, and with her bubbly attitude, she believes that all demons have good inside of them, no matter how bad they are. After witnessing countless massacres of her people being killed every year of a traditional extermination hell has, she decides to open up “The Happy Hotel”, a rehabilitation center that will hopefully redeem damned souls into getting into heaven. Sadly, no one takes her seriously. Her father sees her as a failure, and the citizens of hell think her dream is far fetched, impossible, and downright hilarious. There is NO one on Charlie’s side, no one to support or help her make this dream come true, that is...expect for a sinner named Vaggie.
Vaggie is described to be Charlie’s best friend in the 2018 character description reveal Viv made on Twitter. While she’s a “control freak” and someone with a fiery temper, she cares for Charlie, and helps her try to make this hotel project come true. Viv has said that Vaggie is more “human” than the other characters, and it makes sense. She’s the more reasonable one, a person who is the VOICE of reason, and responsible. Now, I WAS going to talk about each clip Vaggie was in to analyze what I thought at the time, but that would make this post unnecessarily long. Instead, I’ll go over it AS I discuss their scenes in the pilot, so let’s get to it!
So the first time Charlie and Vaggie interact is during the News segment, where Charlie is getting ready to pitch her idea to the citizens of hell.
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While Charlie is excited, determined, and hopeful, Vaggie is the opposite. Sure, she should be happy, but she’s more serious and concerned with how things will play out, ESPECIALLY with how Charlie is. The two have obviously known each other for a long time, with Vaggie even saying she’ll help her out when she makes her speech. Charlie is instead, annoyed rather, not really wanting to stick to their supposed plan and spice things up a bit with a song. It is understandable that Charlie would want to do something like this, of course it fits her personality and her character flaws, but this particular scene is our introduction to how Charlie doesn’t necessarily LISTEN to Vaggie. While we see that the two clearly care for one another, Charlie is clearly more interested in doing things her way, even after she said she wouldn’t sing when Vaggie begged her not to and to just go over their script. Now the immediate thing I want to say is no, I’m not saying Charlie should listen to Vaggie 24/7. Charlie is obviously her OWN person and can do whatever she wants, but we all know how air-headed and blind she is, she’s not necessarily SMART like Vaggie is. If she was, she would have did what her and Vaggie went over instead of going off script, wether wanting to spice things up or not. Speaking of that, we all knew this was coming, Charlie ends up singing indeed, with Vaggie facepalming all the way through. You can tell that stuff like this has happened before, it’s why Vaggie is somewhat controlling because Charlie doesn’t always make the best decisions. There’s nothing I can say that anyone else hasn’t already said here. Charlie should have just listened to Vaggie, and by not doing so, she made herself look like a fool on front of all of Hell, so moving on.
Before we get to the limo scene, I want to say what happened after the crowd laughed at Charlie. I already made a post about this, but basically I disliked how Charlie didn’t even MENTION how Vaggie was helping her. She’s quick to brag about Angel, a famous porn star who doesn’t even believe in her cause nor give a shit about her, but not the person she’s known for so long, has her back 24/7, helps her out, and genuinely cares about her??? And if she didn’t want to mention Vaggie directly, fine, but at least say “I have someone amazing helping me” or “there’s already a person who believes in me” SOMETHING like that to at least show that she freaking APPRECIATES her. I don’t care if it had to do with Angel as a patron or had to do with clients at the hotel, all I wish she would have done was acknowledge Vaggie’s existence. But no, much like Viv herself, she doesn’t acknowledge Vaggie.
With that said, let’s get to the limo scene.
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Of course, this scene is just infuriating to watch for me because not ONCE does Charlie stick up for Vaggie, or even HERSELF for that matter. After they pick up Angel, Vaggie gets on his case about what he did, and Angel clearly doesn’t care, laughing and joking about all of this, and jabbing at them both and the project. Since Charlie is uwu sad from the fiasco at the news station, she sulks like a child the entire time while this ugly candy cane constantly insults and ridicules her friend. Now before people come at me, yes, I KNOW Vaggie is a full grown adult and isn’t some damsel in distress, she’s perfectly capable of standing up for herself. However, it just bothers me that Charlie doesn’t do or say shit, Angel even flat out calls her a bitch and Charlie just sits there, hell, there’s literally a shot of Charlie SMILING for some reason while Vaggie is pissed. These two are supposed to be FRIENDS, yet not only does Charlie just sit there and take the bullshit Angel gives her, but she doesn’t even correct or discipline Angel for his shitty actions towards her partner. Once again, it’s so funny that Viv tries to showcase how Charlie “knows she’s in hell” and can take care of herself, yet here she just lets Angel ridicule her and Vaggie, someone who THEIR housing with THIER money. Charlie only gets one line to react to this whole thing, which is “That was really uncool you know Angel”- and that’s it. No “you’re not going to talk to us that way”, no “you’re going to timeout”, no “don’t speak to vaggie that way” none of that. I mention the whole “time out” thing because Viv has stated that that’s how she would discipline misbehaved demons, yet here she doesn’t do anything for Angel. She’s just proving to him that he can do whatever the hell he wants with no consequences, and that he can continue to fuck with Vaggie without her saying anything. Some friend she is.
So, I want to mention one more thing before we get to the clusterfuck that is Alastor, but I think some people might see this and say “Well maybe Charlie was too vulnerable in this scene to do anything”- and to that I say, yeah, she was in the beginning, but literally after Angel asks for the liquor, she’s sitting up and listening instead of curling up in a ball and pouting like she was in the beginning of the scene. Even her lame line she said about Angel shows that she was capable of putting her foot down, yet since she’s too childish, she didn’t. I also understand that you could say she probably didn’t want to jab at Angel because she’s trying to be kind to all demons to help them better, but telling Angel to knock it off isn’t that hard. It’s so funny because this scene kinda showcases how Vaggie is more of the one who’s actually putting in the work for this hotel and cares, while Charlie just sits back and acts dimwitted. She’s the one in charge of this whole thing, it should have been HER talking to Angel, not Vaggie.
So finally, let’s get to when ALASTOR arrives. Whoo boy.
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Once Alastor enters the picture, everyone kinda just ignores Vaggie. She’s pushed to the side, and when she TRIES to speak and voice her concerns, nobody listens to her. Let’s start at the beginning though. When Al knocks on the door, Vaggie says to not let Alastor in because they both know he’s dangerous (even though Charlie’s more powerful than him so I don’t know why she’s so afraid) but she doesn’t listen and let’s him in. I obviously don’t have a problem with that, what I DO have a problem with is Alastor constantly harassing Vaggie RIGHT IN FRONT of Charlie, while she just stares there blankly. Throughout the rest of the pilot, Alastor is constantly pushing Vaggie to the side, shoving her away, or even outright assaulting her, and the ENTIRE time, Charlie is either blind and doesn’t notice, or is watching this unfold with her OWN eyes and doesn’t do shit. She’s either too distracted by Al, or blatantly watches this asshat push her friend around, just letting it happen. Oh I’m sorry, not just Alastor, but ANGEL as well. If the limo scene wasn’t enough, once Al brings the bar in for Husk, Vaggie protests but Angel literally TACKLES HER TO THE DAMN GROUND, putting his hands on her and telling her to shut up RIGHT IN FRONT OF CHARLIE. And what does Charlie do? Nothing. It’s not even Angel’s fucking CALL to have a bar in a hotel, he’s not the one in charge, Charlie is, and yet she just goes with it and doesn’t say shit to him about pushing vaggie to the side. It’s fucking ridiculous how all of this shit is happening right in front of her face, yet she doesn’t do or say anything.
So of course, let’s talk about the scene where Vaggie pulls Charlie to the side and talks to her. Charlie does bring up a valid reason to let him help because if she didn’t it would be going against what she believes in, but she says she can take care of herself when.....well she’s literally done nothing BUT prove to everyone that they can walk all over her but whatever. The part that’s important is that Charlie for fucking ONCE actually listens to Vaggie and doesn’t make a deal with Al. I’m actually AMAZED, but still....that doesn’t let Charlie off the hook at all. Not only does she not do shit when the other characters push her friend around and treat her like garbage, but once Al wins her over, she’s so blind to notice how WORRIED and upset Vaggie is. Vaggie throughout Alastor’s song is constantly trying to get to Charlie but Al purposely pulls her away, and you feel so fucking bad for her because Charlie doesn’t even NOTICE.
It’s disgusting how much of a PUNCHING bag character Vaggie is, just like Moxxie from Helluva Boss. It also hurts that even BEFORE Al came, Charlie never listened to Vaggie anyway, but now that this big powerful helping demon has entered the picture, she sure as hell won’t now. I SWEAR, Charlie is one of those characters where if you were Vaggie and said Alastor did something out of pocket, she would just go “Oh just go with it” or “oh it’s not THAT bad”. And here’s the thing. To wrap this all up, I KNOW that Charlie is naive, I KNOW that she can make her own decisions when you get to it without Vaggie, but the reason why I truly think she’s a bad friend is just that she simply doesn’t support Vaggie in the same way Vaggie supports HER. Vaggie will always be by Charlie’s side, but Charlie is just too blind and stupid to care about what Vaggie says, or even take into CONSIDERATION what she says. She didn’t listen to her about the singing, she didn’t stick by her side when Angel ridiculed her, and she didn’t do anything when Al pushed her around. She may be caring, but she doesn’t support her, stand by her side, stick up for her, or do ANYTHING to help her the way vaggie helps her. From Charlie’s perspective, I GUESS you could say she’s just so happy that Al is making her dream a reality, but I’m sorry, I just feel so bad for Vaggie. I really hope since in the show they’ll be actually written as GIRLFRIENDS this time, Charlie’s shitty flaws will change, and she’ll learn to respect Vaggie, as well as Viv getting off of her idiotic “punching bag fetish” she has with certain characters, because VAGGIE..👏....DESERVES...👏.....BETTER. 👏
So I hope y’all enjoyed this post, I want to apologize because this specific post is certainly more ranty and short than the Stolas one, but hopefully you got something out of it. With that said, what are YOUR thoughts on Charlie and Vaggie’s relationship? Do you think they should be girlfriends? Do you think they should just be friends? Do you think Vaggie deserves better, or Charlie? Let me know if you want!
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