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#and this one feels very true to chris and seb's dynamic
fandomfluffandfuck · 2 months
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Hi Sir, do you think Sebastian has a Daddy Kink. Y’ know considering his past, and the situation with his biological father. I know you have written about Sebastian calling Chris “Daddy”, but I mean it more as in, do you think he maybe has Daddy Issues, and therefore calls Chris “Daddy”?
I sent in the “Daddy Kink ask” and thinking about it more, I realize how disturbing (towards you and Sebastian) that may sound. I swear it wasn’t meant like that. I’m just a very curious person. So feel free to just delete the ask if it makes you uncomfortable!
Hey, sweets!
No, but I actually like this ask because I feel like this general idea is A Thing in both the vanilla world and the kink world, I can't and won't put words in your mouth specifically, but I have noticed generally that people tend to pair the idea of trauma and kink.
Definitely, there's the stereotype that kinks are born from trauma. Which, yes, is true in some people. However, it's not the overall rule. Then, the myth that all kinks come from trauma can then extend into the stereotype that all people with kinks are "broken" or "fucked up" in some way. Fucked up by said assumed trauma. Also, of course, this isn't true.
But, with that being said, personally, I have noticed that there's is some correlation between people who look outwardly fucked up (or, as my parents would say, "scary") in that they're tattooed, pierced, or have alternative aesthetics that stray from the "norm". My idea for that correlation is, well, hey, if you're not going to fit in with mainstream society in one way, then you might as well not fit in, in all the different ways that you feel. Why pretend? Why not just fucking go for it? (That's how I feel. I mean, I also am just... like that. Genuinely. It's not a conscious link for me a lot of the time, trauma -> aesthetic -> kink, I just see where they bleed into each other. It just so happens that I fucking love kink and I love metal music and I love body art and I love the gothic/emo/alternative/whatever you want to call it, aesthetic.)
Although, at the same time, as paradoxical as it is, it's niave to think that how you're raised and what your parents are like doesn't shape how you go into your relationships and your life. I'm paraphrasing, but as Chris once said, your parents shape how you love. They teach you how to love (x). You can absolutely outgrow that basis, but it's also a basis.
Anyway, where am I going here?
All this is to say that I have no idea if Sebastian has daddy issues. Granted, I also have no idea if Sebastian has a daddy kink. I don't know Sebastian.
Not everyone with daddy issues will have a daddy kink, and there are plenty of people with daddy kinks that don't have daddy issues. (At least, they wouldn't consider themselves to have daddy issues, looking specifically at how the Western world expects fathers to act when raising children. Personally, I think most people have issues based on that, but I also recognize that based on my life experience... I'm probably just being cynical, lmao.)
And for Sebastian, I don't think it's about trauma or issues. I think it's about power dynamics. I think it's about the general idea of daddy. The biggest, the best, the most capable, comforting, and caring yet stern, too. We've all seen how easily Seb crumbles with praise, and I think, related to that, Sebastian responds so well to having someone telling him what to do in the soft-but-still-authoritative role. That's what gets him in my mind.
Also, it's worth pointing out that I don't think it would go back to his biological father for Sebastian because he wouldn't've known his biological father as "Daddy" because it would've been the Romanian equivalent for the English affection name for a father. He might've been encouraged to call his step-father that, but, eh, he was older by that point, so it's unlikely in my mind.
All in all, I have no right to speculate, really. Seb's a real person, a real person I don't know, so I don't know, and I won't ever know either 🤷🏻‍♂️
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simplysummers · 2 years
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What are your favourite Sebastian ships?
My favourite, and most consumed Sebastian ship will always be Kurtbastian, no doubt about that, but if I had to put all of his (common?) ships into a list from favourite to least favourite, this is what it’d look like!
1: Kurtbastian
Kurt Hummel and Sebastian Smythe.
I don’t quite think I can fathom just how much I dearly love these two, both separately and together. The potential they bring to one another for growth, redemption, explanation and development is practically palpable. The chemistry, courtesy of Chris and Grant, in the show is so entertaining to watch, and the direction of their relationship can really take a turn at any point. Do they start off with hate sex? Is it Kurt learning that Sebastian is an actual person with a family, hobbies and aspirations? Is it Sebastian personally reaching out to apologise to Kurt and something blossoming from that? Do they run into one another again in New York? It could be any of these options, alongside many more, and yet they all bring us a beautiful outcome in this pairing. They’re not so cookie cutter, they’re unique and compatible in so many different ways. Their wit and humour is so easy to intertwine that I sometimes forget they aren’t a canon couple. I just absolutely adore them.
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2: I need to distinguish how much I love Kurtbas by stating that nothing even compares to them.
Like seriously none of the ships below even remotely compare. That’s how much I adore these two.
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3: Warbler Ships.
Sebastian Smythe and Jeff, Nick, Thad, Wes, David and Trent.
These are the type of ships that I’ll read and I have no problems with, I just don’t actively ship them in my own glee universe. I read a beautiful fanfic a few years ago about Thad and Wes helping Sebastian overcome some self infliction habits, as well as a similar one with Nick where they’d write letters to one another. They were lovely and I thoroughly enjoyed them, I just don’t ship any of them religiously like I do with kurtbastian. KB are my endgame, I don’t even see these couples as midgame.
(That being said, I do think Jeff and Sebastian have most likely made out before. Not in a midgame type of way, more of a heated fling, I picture it to be a situation where Nick and jeff were on a break, and the boys kinda just got caught up in the moment while watching movies. It was something they just needed to try and get out of their system, and it’s followed by Jeff realising that Nick’s lips are the only ones he ever wants to kiss, and Seb understanding that maybe the idea of being romantically exclusive to somebody wouldn’t be a bad thing, and it would actually make him feel special. It doesn’t affect their friendship negatively, they’re still best buds, but Nick definitely gives Sebastian some side eyes when Niff are on the mend and he learns what happened.)
I think a good summary of how I feel about these ships is that when I’m reading their fics, I’m reading for Sebastian and Warbler characterisation separately, not Sebastian and Warbler romantically together, but they’re still cute fics!
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4: Huntbastian
Hunter Clarington and Sebastian Smythe.
For me Huntbastian is kinda mid tier. I don’t actually like Hunter very much as a character, and I think Seb is far too good for him (I’m also very persistent when it comes to reminding people that the steroids scandal was all Hunter’s doing). However, there are definitely a few fics that I’ve read where this ship is quite cute. I suppose because we don’t know a lot about Hunter, nor do we know if the stuff we do know is even true, I think this ship is completely dependent on how the former is portrayed by each fic writer/artist. They have fanon potential, but I don’t appreciate Hunter enough to delve into that myself, despite the fact I have enjoyed little bits of media between these two every now and again.
That being said, I personally think these two actually have some very dark potential considering the power dynamic established in the show, and you know me, I love putting Sebastian in tough situations.
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5/6: Starsmythe and Coopbastian
Elliott ‘Starchild’ Gilbert/Cooper Anderson and Sebastian Smythe.
First of all, idk if Elliott and Seb have a ship name, I just came up with Starsmythe on the spot, but if they don’t I think that should be the new one.
Much like with number three on my list, these are the kinds of ships that I don’t really see together in general, and I don’t see them happening in canon at all (well maybe Starsmythe could’ve if they’d actually met, but they didn’t), they’re just fun for experimenting with stories and ideas, or sometimes they’re a catalyst for other ships (Elliott with Kurtbas and Cooper with Huntbas from what I’ve read). I did read a really sweet KB fic where Sebastian got sick in New York, and Elliott helped Kurt look after him, so although they weren’t romantically involved, I thought it was just so sweet and had potential.
So again for these guys, I read more so for separate characterisation, and to get my Sebastian fix after I devour everything in his tag excluding seblaine, but they have possible fanon potential!
(And personally I’m a sucker for the whole ‘Cooper dates one of Sebastian’s family members’ trope that so many of us use. That never gets old.)
7: Sebklaine
Sebastian Smythe, Kurt Hummel and Blaine Anderson.
(Does it annoy anyone else that in both sebklaine and klaine Kurt is only the K? Like mmm it’s not a vibe.)
I don’t really know what to say about this ship. Do I hate it as much as Seblaine? No I don’t, but do I actively love it or consume it’s media on my own? Also no. The only time I’ll read Sebklaine fics is if the title and/or summary really grab my attention, or it’s primary focused on Kurtbas with only a smidge of Blaine, otherwise I’m not overly interested myself.
I personally don’t think this trio would work very well at all, I actually don’t think Blaine could be in a polyamorous relationship with anybody for that matter. As we see in the show, he’s incredible insecure and very jealous, imagine how he’d behave if he had to share his partner with somebody else? And I’m not putting my Bastian through that :(.
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8: Sebofsky:
Sebastian Smythe and Dave Karofsky.
I think Sebofsky is such a neutral ship to me. I don’t dislike it, but I don’t actively ship it either. I’ve read a few fics of this pairing, nothing that particularly stuck out to me, but that’s not to say they were necessarily bad, just not my personal cup of tea. Something I actually would’ve liked to have seen from the show between these two was an apology from Seb to Dave after his attempt, but since we never got to see that I just like to assume it happened off screen. Now had we have seen a scene similar to that, maybe I would feel differently towards this ship, both positively or negatively, but we shall never know.
Not a bad ship, not an amazing ship, just a ship to me!
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9: Seblaine:
Sebastian Smythe and Blaine Anderson.
I’ll just let Redditor Bea explain this one
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This might be a hot take, and I’m probably going to get shit for it, but I think Sebastian deserves better than Blaine. I think everyone deserves better than Blaine, I do not like Blaine :).
Seblaine’s only redeeming quality, at least in my opinion, is that at least Blaine is a gay male and not a girl, or god forbid a lesbian girl.
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10/11: Sebtana and Smytheberry.
Sebastian Smythe and Santana Lopez/Rachel Berry.
I will not touch these two ships with a ten foot pole. I’m all for personal expression, and at the end of the day you can headcanon characters as whatever sexuality you want to, there is nothing we can actually do to stop you, but I personally think there’s a huge difference between hc-ing a straight person as another sexuality, and hc-ing a canon gay character as straight. It’s reductive, you’re taking away their minority, you’re removing with a snap of your fingers the oppression people have been fighting again for years, these characters are iconic for what they represent, Santana especially: canon gays in modern media who aren’t totally defined by their sexuality. And I know some of y’all are looking at this with a side eye because it’s “not that deep”, but it is to me. If Sebastian and Santana had both been canon bisexual in the show, I actually think Sebtana is a ship I could get behind, but they aren’t, and therefore it’ll never be okay with me. They are both gay, a homosexual and a lesbian, so I will never see them romantically involved.
And as for Rachel, the compatibility between them isn’t very strong in my opinion, Rachel would be too much for him, I think it takes a certain type of guy to handle her, especially pre-S4. He’d lose his patience pretty quickly over her behaviour anyway, excluding the fact Sebastian likes men.
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musette22 · 3 years
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Can we appreciate the fact that the two most heartfelt messages that Seb has left for people on their birthdays were to Chris and Mackie. And if I'm not mistaken he put the emoji that is ASL for I love you at the end.
Oh my frikking god, you're right. I thought he just meant like 'rock on' which is also still possible, but Seb does know ASL 🥺🥺🥺 That is so sweet
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1908jmd · 3 years
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It looks like i forgot half of what happened in s1-4 so the ranking will take a lot more time. but in the meantime , could you rank the following
top 5 blaine centric episodes ( and if you feel like it klaine centric eps)
top 5 best acted moments ( in your opinion ) by darren as blaine
top 10 episodes of glee in general
Wow this is fun!! Where do I start. I’ll do the episodes of glee in a separate post when I’ve thought about it more!
FAVE Blaine centric episodes or Klaine
Hard to say exactly as some episodes only featured a little Blaine or Klaine but that enough was iconic enough to make a great episode. So I’ve tried to pick obvious contenders, when you think about the episode you think Klaine or Blaine. Episodes like Never Been kissed or Original Song or A very glee Christmas have of course some of the best Blaine/Klaine parts but the rest of the content of the episode is poor or annoying.
So my faves;
1 Prom Queen - Everyone had a great moment in this episode. But there is enough for me to say a Klaine episode. With Kurt asking Blaine toProm, and Blaine’s other speech telling us that small, but oh how important fact about his past. And the fact that Blaine is crazy about Kurt, and Kurt is so happy to be going to prom, as well as the scene with Finn and Burt, and then the actual prom itself. All great
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2 Dynamic Duets - oh Night bird - the start of Blam - Sam caring enough about Blaine and Blaine has a true friend. The whole bit with the Warblers is just so good. Flawless
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3 The First Time - waiting for the antis to come at me, but do I care? No because I know what the scene is about and how I interpret it. And the rest of the episode is priceless - from their chat In Blaine’s room and at the locker… the introduction of Mr Slime himself, Scandals and then the end few scenes which is just right. (And Seb gets one of the best lines - sex on a stick and sings like a dream, and it wasn’t about Kurt!)
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4 Guilty Pleasures. The tiny wham shorts, Who shot who? Breathe mints. Blam at their best. Against all odds is brilliant. Teacher Blaine would own my heart, if he wasn’t a big superstar in the future. Even Bruce the boyfriend arm has a place in my heart.
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5 I do. I tentatively put this here as they probably were on screen for no more than 15 minutes. But what brilliant scenes they were!
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Closely followed by Puppet Master and Love love love and GABOF
Best acted moments (oh heck!!) - wow there’s going to be more than five Editing - I didn’t even mention his improvising which we see loads of times! Hurt locker part 2, with Elliott in NNY and the unscripted kisses and affection.
1 Loser like me - the break up scene. I mean he’s great at angst, with those big eyes. But he goes from happy, to shock, to sad, to anger in about 20 seconds and it’s brilliant to watch, especially with Chris’s brilliant acting here too.
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2 Tested - god I hate the episode but the boy can do blangst.
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3 oh please let me put some happy in here!! His comedic scenes are great too - so many but I’d go with Feud or Puppet Master - the scenes with Jane Lynch, when they just bounce off each other
4 He’s so believable when he’s singing and putting his heart into it. But the one I like best is. against all odds and the chat with the others and then with Sam afterwards.
5. Sometimes he doesn’t have to be singing or saying anything. Just watch some of the looks he gives at certain times. The whole Shooting Star scene, the look while Ryder sings Everybody Hurts, or Unique singing If I were a boy. Yeah we all talk about his puppy dog eyes with love, but what about the looks he gives to display the very heart of emotion.
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This one too - we know he’s no angel.
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itsawinwinthing · 6 years
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Cell Block Tango  - Sebastian Stan (Ch 4)
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Pairing: Sebastian Stan x Original Female Character
Word count: 2079
A/N: I love writing this story!
Warnings: none 
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2 weeks later
NICOLA's P.O.V
"Nicola Elaine Deitrich! You need to get up! you have a very important meeting to get to this morning and you cannot afford to be late!" My best friend Rachel yells at me, pulling on my covers and dragging me out of my bed.
"How did you get into my apartment," I say through my grogginess, as I threw a pillow at her knocking her off my bed with a thud.
"You forget that I know how to pick a lock," She retorts back, scooping up my bedding and tossing it back on the bed.
"True New Yorker right here folks," I exclaim to the non-existent audience, sometimes I feel as though the two of us could have our own reality show with the dynamic we have between the two of us
"Oh, hush up will ya, get your ass in the shower woman!" She exclaims shoving me forcefully towards the bathroom.
To catch you up on what has occurred these last few weeks, after Chris and Sebastian had asked me if I'd like to be managed by the same agency they did not for a single second fail me. After the weekend of the senior show had finished an agent got into contact with me and asked if I would meet with them to discuss what a future with them may look like. Needless to say, I am beyond nervous, ecstatic, and petrified all at once!
Once I had finished up getting ready, my blonde hair was pulled back into a cute messy ponytail, and the feeling I was overdressed I trotted down the hallway to my living room. Stopping in front of the kitchen, waiting for Rachel to turn around. She turned around, taking a drink of my orange juice out of the carton before choking on it almost instantly.
"Holy shit," She gawked.
"Too much?" I asked awkwardly, but she just stood there looking at me, "Oh Lord, I knew it was too much," I cursed.
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"No! no! no! Cole, it isn't too much, you just look like a million bucks," She smiled sweetly kissing my forehead, "Now. Here, drinks some orange juice, chew some gums, and go kicks some ass," She stated kindly.
"I'll call you as soon as I get out of the meeting ok," I explain as I head for the door, taking a glance at the clock on my wall, I had 30 minutes to get to the agency and not screw up this opportunity.
. . .
Good god Nicola, could your hands be any clammier, calm yourself you're a professional woman, showcase that. I struggled to keep myself together, I had never been so anxious in my life, but I'm going to the one thing I knew how to do best, and I was going to act my nervous ass through this meeting. I sat on the subway rubbing my hands against either other to try and minimize the moistness of my palms before the automated voice over the speaker notified us that we were at my stop.
I walked down the sidewalk, glancing up at the address on the sign of the building before strolling inside and heading to the 14th floor. I was the only one in the elevator so I took the opportunity to take a couple deep breaths, knowing that Sebastian and Chris were the ones who set up this opportunity for me and I was not about to waste it. Before I could fully prepare the elevator dinged, I took one more deep breath and walked out and up to the lady at the desk.
"Good morning miss, how can I help you?" She asked kindly.
"Yes, hello, I have a meeting with Janelle Baron this morning," I say softly, trying to hide my nervous and not come off too strong.
"You must be Nicola Dietrich," She grinned widely, "Janelle has been looking forward to meeting you for weeks, please take a seat and she will be right with you," She instructed sweetly as I felt butterflies erupt inside of me. Was Janelle Baron really excited to meet me? I sat there twiddling my thumbs and mentally calming myself as I sat there and waited.
"Ms. Dietrich," I heard, pulling me from my thought as a very poised late 40's African-American woman approached me, "I'm Janelle Baron, it's an absolute pleasure to meet you," She chuckled shaking my hand.
"The pleasure is all mine, Mrs. Baron," I smiled back.
"Please Mrs. Baron is my mother-in-law, call me Janelle. If you'll follow me we have been waiting for you," She motioned as I began to follow her.
"We?" I questioned curiously, wondering who else would be meeting with us, and she simply nodded in response as we made small talk walking through the corridor before she ushered me into a large glass conference room.
My heart nearly stopped as I turned my attention from her and to the other people inside the room waiting for our arrival. It was Chris and Sebastian, and a man whose face seemed familiar, but a name wouldn't come to me.
"Nicola!" Chris cheered jovially, hopping up from his seat quickly as Sebastian and the other man finished up their conversation, "So nice to see you again! You look great!" He chuckled wrapping me in a big hug, lifting me off the ground.
"Hi Chris," I giggled, hugging him back, as my eyes flickered over his shoulder to see Sebastian standing there, a soft smile on his face. Chris set me back on the ground, Janelle getting a nice laugh out of Chris' reaction to seeing me again.
"Hello Nicola, you look fantastic," Sebastian smiled softly before stepping forward to give me a hug, he smelt the same way he did the first time we met, and it made this strange heat radiate in my chest.
"Wow ok, how am I suppose to top that Seb," The man behind him gawks jokingly.
"You don't," Sebastian chuckles, releasing me from his grasp.
"Come on man," He chuckles before returning his attention to me, "Hello there, sorry, my names Anthony Mackie, it's nice to meet you, Nicola, I've heard a lot about you," He grinned. Anthony Mackie, this name, I knew this name, I knew that he seemed familiar to me.
"Nice to meet you as well Anthony," I smiled back, shaking his hand.
"Ok lady and gents lets take a seat shall we?" Janelle said, motioning for us to take a seat. Chris, Sebastian, and Anthony sat on the other side of the table from Janelle and me, listening intently.
"Chris and Sebastian tell me and I quote that you are 'jaw-droppingly talented' based off of watch you perform at Tisch a few weeks ago," Janelle states, smiling up at me, but I was without words, all of this was so insane, and to know that these ridiculously talented men thought that about me was crazy. I shifted my gaze to the men across the table who were grinning like absolute idiots.
"That's very kind of them," I mutter.
"What I want to know Nicola is, do you have what it takes to not just pursue this kind of career, but be successful at it as well? There's plenty of actors who made it but aren't very successful, and I want you to be successful Nicola," She asks straight, the smile fading from my face as I realized the seriousness of her voice. It wasn't rude, or inquisitive, it was a genuine question, and she was looking for a genuine answer and I was going to give her one.
"Yes, ma'am I believe I will be. I have the drive, determination . . ." I say, and not wanting to sound cocky I paused until I realized I need to be confident in myself, ". . . And I have the talent to succeed ma'am, this is my passion ... no, it's not just a passion, it's my life, and I'd do anything to live out this life," I say passionately, "Not acting, is not an option for me," I say softer, trying to tone down my intensity, but it was true acting was everything, and doing anything else wasn't an option for me.
The room stayed silent for a long moment as Janelle scribbled into what looked like some sort of document. I looked over at the guys, nervous that I had come off too desperate, Chris sent me and wink and Sebastian nodded reassuringly.
"Ms. Dietrich if you don't mind signing this for me, then we'll have a deal," She smiled.
"A deal?" I ask.
"Yes, Nicola, a contract that I will represent you as your agent form this agency," She giggled, sliding the document over to me.
"Really?" I beamed, trying to not geek out too soon, "Thank you, Janelle, I will not disappoint," I say more calm and professional, taking the pen and signing the contract as Chris and Sebastian quickly high-five one another.
"I know you won't, and Nicola after you graduate I'll need you to get new headshots taken before we start scouting out  auditions for you?" She smiled before saying her goodbye's and ushering me out of the room.
SEBASTIAN's P.O.V
I sat there chatting back and forth with Mackie and Chris when the sound of muffled voices echoed off the glass walls. I glanced up for a moment to see Janelle walking down the hallway with Nicola, a strange heat began to radiate through my chest and I laid eyes on her, she looked absolutely stunning, and I was about to make an absolute fool of myself if I didn't get a grip.
When she walked into the room Chris quickly enveloped her in a hug, and I couldn't help put a smile.
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NICOLA's P.O.V
I walked towards the elevator so lost in my own thoughts and emotions that I didn't even realize what was physically happening in front of me.
"Earth to Nicola," Chris muttered, waving his hand in front of my face, snapping me back to reality.
"I think we may have lost her," Sebastian chuckles. Without even thinking about what I was doing I threw my arms around Sebastian burying my face into his denim shirt, "Woah, Nicola it's ok," He laughed softly holding onto me.
"Thank you," I whispered softly, releasing myself from his grasp, keeping hold of his forearm "To both of you," I say grabbing onto Chris's arm as well, "This is a debt I'll never be able to repay either of you," I stated looking back a forth from one to the other.
"There is nothing to repay," Chris assured putting his hand on my shoulder.
"We saw real talent, and we jumped at the opportunity to give that talent a shot," Sebastian added on.
"Thank you guys seriously from the bottom of my heart, thank you," I exclaimed, the sincerity oozing from my voice as we exited the elevator, "One more day and I'll be out of college and on to the rest of my life," I say as we step out onto the busy New York street.
"Nicola?" Sebastian said, grabbing my attention.
"Mhmm," I responded.
"Before we go, we should exchange numbers," Chris suggested, and simultaneously the three of us traded phones before returning them to their rightful owners.
"One more thing before you go," Sebastian said, "Would you do us the honor of allowing us to cheer you on at your graduation tomorrow?" He asked as Chris rested his hand on Sebastian's shoulder, a nervous smile dancing across his lips.
"You really want to come to my graduation?" I asked.
"Absolutely! We'd be delighted," Chris smiled.
"Ok, I'll uh, leave two tickets at the box office for you. It's at Yankee Stadium tomorrow 12:00," I informed them.
Butterflies fluttering around in my stomach as I hugged these men for the 3rd time today before we parted ways. I turned back slightly, glancing through the sea of people to see Sebastian looking back, a massive grin spread across his face before he turned back and disappeared into the abyss of people.
chapter 5
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musette22 · 4 years
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Hi Minnie! First of all, thank you for being so sweet, reasonable and respectful, I can't even describe how much joy your blog gives me! You are a true pro in emotional support for Evanstan fandom, so I guess I kinda need some reassurance. [1]
The thing is, as you probably know, some Seb stans on Twitter take the whole Chris insta situation and turn it into smth embarassing, like making fun of Seb and Mackie ignoring Chris and calling the idea of the challenge stupid (even though Chris did donate, not just "asked fans for money", as they say). It's like they feel the need to attack the first before smb calls they fav out. [2]
I know there ARE good people in Seb fandom, it's just that the aggressive ones are so loud and spread their bs so fast, I end up seeing it on my TL. No matter how stupid it sounds, it keeps making me sad to see so much hate towards Chris and his fans not from some random locals but from Seb stans. It's like two halves of my heart are torn apart. Not even ship-wise, it just seems so hard to love them both and be present on twitter these days. [3]
And, since I'm whiney af today, one more twitter thing: the CW promo era was some kind of honeymoon for us, sure, but I've recently seen some opinions on how Chris was all lovey-dovey and Seb was stiff and bored and uncomfortable, how their interviews were unnatural and boring. I mean, in my part of fandom (non-English speaking country) there has always been a popular perception of boys' dynamic as these "over-excited puppy playing around a confused cat" vids, if you know what I mean. [4]
But it kinda seemed ok for me, and the way they acted a little awkward around each other etc. Well, you can tell I'm easily affected cause now it does feel more negative to me. Stuuupid, I know. Maybe it's my "let's feel sorry for Chris and his fans" phase, idk. Sorry for bringing it here, you just seem to reassure people so well. [5 and last, it was long lol]
Hello my lovely!! This was indeed long hahaha but that’s totally fine, I myself am also someone who also has trouble keeping things short to I feel you 😘 
This is a very long reply so I’m putting it under the cut so I don’t clog up people’s dashes!
Okay so first of all, let me say I was never a fan of Twitter, but everything I’ve heard lately has just lowered my opinion of it even further. I know there’s a lot of amazing stuff and brilliant folks on there as well, but it also seems to be where all the bitchy, hateful, entitled and inappropriate people congregate. So personally, I’m very happy with my little community on Tumblr when it comes to fandom, and for news and social media I prefer actual news outlets and instagram. The sad truth is that there are a lot of harmful and hateful opinions in the world, and as someone who struggles with anxiety, I try to find ways to avoid a lot of it. Especially the stuff I can’t do anything about (you can try to reason with most haters until you’re blue in the face, and 90% of the time it’s not going to make an ounce of difference). It’s much easier to curate your own experiences on platforms like Tumblr and even Instagram than it is on Twitter, or so I’ve gathered. So I’m afraid I don’t have a lot of helpful advice for you there apart from ‘maybe try and stay away from Twitter if you can’ which you probably don’t really want either...
As for the whole Seb vs Chris issue: it’s clearly completely ridiculous. There is no ground whatsoever to believe they’re at odds. At worst, they’re now just casual work friends, but there is no reason to believe there’s any bad blood. It’s interesting to consider that initially, the argument seemed to be they had fallen out and both disliked each other (no idea where that came from but sure), then it was that Chris didn’t like Sebastian (because he allegedly shaded him when he joked that Scarjo was the only one of his friends who came to see Lobby Hero), and then Chris got Instagram and tagged and followed Seb, but because Seb hasn’t responded to the challenge yet, he now apparently hates Chris. For what reason, god only knows, because only last year at MCM London (where I was present myself) Sebastian gushed about Chris and his experiences with him while filming the Cap movies, and lets not forget it was him who initiated the hug at the Endgame premiere. Long story short: they don’t dislike each other. They’re completely fine, people just like to make up drama for whatever reason.   
As for the Sebastian stans who hate Chris and vice vera: to be honest, I wasn’t even really aware it was an issue until recently, because I was under the naive impression that it was kind of impossible to love one but hate the other. Both of them are such amiable, sweet, thoughtful, funny, talented guys, and everyone who actually knows them adores them, so why on earth anyone could hate either of them is beyond me. But even if you do, I genuinely don’t understand this need to pit them against each other? Why? I think a lot of it is down to people just liking drama, or being actual 12 year-olds who still see the world in a kind of high school dynamic-way. I’m not saying Chris and Sebastian have never done anything wrong, but in my opinion, none of it warrants outright hate or being cancelled over. It’s such an immature and unreasonable take. I’m just sorry for the people who can’t love both of them, because man, are they missing out! I understand that it’s painful for you to see all those opinions when you love both of them so much, but that’s why I try to just avoid them. I know they exist, but not seeing them makes dealing with it a whole lot easier, I promise! ❤️
With regard to the challenge itself: if the celebrities who are taking part in it are not donating themselves, then yeah, that would be problematic. However, we know that Chris donates to a ton of different charities, so there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s donated to this cause as well. Asking people to buy tickets to try and win this “prize” is not in itself an issue, if you ask me. People can think for themselves, can’t they? If they think it’s worth it, they think it’s worth it. They’re not being forced to part with their money, and moreover said money is being used to help people in need. Of course fake and problematic charities exist, but there are still good ones out there as well, so let’s assume for the moment this one is actually doing all of this from a genuine desire to help people and it’s not some money grabbing scheme.
Furthermore, as I’ve said so many times before, I really don’t believe Sebastian and Mackie are “ignoring” Chris. If they’re choosing not to do the challenge (they still might do it at some point) then I’m sure they have a good reason for that and it isn’t that they’re holding a grudge and are thinking “screw this charity and that Chris Evans, I’m going to ghost him to get my revenge!” I mean, do these people even realize how ridiculous that sounds 🙄 I also believe they would have let Chris know about their decision privately. They do have each other’s phone numbers, you know... 
And lastly, about the CW press tour... I don’t know what footage these people have been watching to come to such conclusions, or what’s wrong with their eyes and ears, but that makes NO sense to me. I’ll tell you what; it was mostly the footage from the CW press tour that got me convinced there was something going in between the two of them! Both Chris and Sebastian acted in a way that screamed “smitten kittens” to me, and if there was ever any “stiffness” from Sebastian’s side, then that was no doubt just his slightly more reserved personality compared to Chris and Mackie’s. Chris and Sebastian’s videos together give me LIFE, so for anyone to call them boring is actually kind of insulting lol. To me, almost every interaction Chris and Seb had during that press tour showed that they were either low-key (in a friendship way) or high-key (in a romantic way) crushing on each other, and they clearly admire each other very much. Any awkwardness I’ve ever seen between them for me seemed to stem from that crush (is anyone not at least a little awkward around their crush sometimes?) and not from any dislike from either side. That’s actually such a ridiculous idea to me that it doesn’t even make me worried, it just makes me laugh. Some people really don’t have eyes, it seems. 
Anyway, that was a reeeeeeaaaaaallllyyyyy long reply lmao, I’m sorry! I hope this helps a little though, because I do know how shitty it is to feel like you do about things that are supposed to make you happy!! Tuning out the haters and focusing on people who feel the same way you do in my experience is the best way to get to feeling good again 🥰 Big hug, and hopefully you’ll feel better soon!
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luninosity · 5 years
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I'm kinda new to the sub!Seb scene and got pointed to your blog. Can you recommend a story where I could do my toes?
OH YES INDEED
…let’s see…
(also, if anyone else wants to make suggestions, feel free!)
I’ll start with a couple of my own fics, and then a couple of my favorites from my AO3 bookmarks, I think? for options? obviously not an exhaustive list; we’d be here for ages!
My fics that might be good sub!Seb starting-points
~(baby won’t you please) run your fingers through my hair, which is ~20k of Chris accepting a role that involves kinky sex, needing to do research, agreeing to let Sebastian take him to a certain…club…that Seb knows about…and discovering that he’s pretty good at being exactly what Seb needs
~tempt me, tease me (leave me breathless), in which Sebastian’s not-great kinky sex date (not bad in a way that’d require warnings, it’s just not going well) gets interrupted by a tipsy Chris Evans phone call asking for a ride home from a bar; Sebastian says yes, of course, being in love with Chris, the way he always has been; and he ends up taking Chris back to his own apartment, and then Chris notices Seb’s odd mood and wants to help, and there are love confessions and of course the kinky sex (this story also contains what’s still one of my favorite little passages I’ve ever written, when they’re in the car)
~if you feel up to wading into an AU (contemporary, BDSM-accepted society - and some people find AUs easier to get into when it’s RPF), the Like Sugar series is one of the things I’m most proud of, with the world-building and the marriage-of-convenience that of course turns into True Love! (It technically says not complete but that’s just because there’ll be two more short bonus story snippets - the main stories are all complete)
~just a couple lovebirds (we got a good thing), which is sort of semi-AU: famous actor/director Chris Evans comes into the escort service run by Sebastian Stan and Anthony Mackie; they provide more companionship in general, though sex is also an option, but initially Chris literally just needs a date for a big event, and this agency comes highly recommended for that…of course, Seb’s sworn off handling clients himself, and he’s too busy anyway…so there’s a whole lot of pining, a whole lot of implied or not-entirely-sexual Dom/sub caretaking dynamics happening whenever Chris and Seb interact, a lot of cameos, a lot of food, and, yes, finally getting together and splendid kinky sub!Seb sex.
Fic recs - fics written by other awesome people!
~the beautiful and gentle and, yes, sweet (you’ll get why that’s a fitting adjective when you read it!) Don’t Say It Softly by @paper-storm
~for utterly adorable pet-related meet-cute and also scorching hot sexytimes (and a really gorgeous use of the line, “say ‘thank you, Chris’ ”), there is bundles of love wrapped in fur by @thebestpersonherelovesbucky
~the Big One that everybody’s going to rec to you, for good reason, and I love it so (in the category of: I wish I could write like that… fair warning, though, they get pretty kinky, so if you’re looking for dip-the-toes-in, it may not be a starting-point, though then again it’s so well written that it may just hook you anyway): You Once Said If We Were Careful by @callmejude
~technically still a WIP but you can read it as done, it’s not a cliffhanger or anything, and the scene where it currently ends gives some resolution to some of Seb’s worries, so that’s fine: Ceramic by @bearceptionus, which is very soft and tender and full of caretaking and learning together and love via food and gentle!Dom!Chris
Okay! That’s like eight things, so I’ll pause there! You can always check my Evanstan AO3 bookmarks too!
And if anyone else has good suggestions for dipping one’s toes into reading sub!Seb, please share!
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luninosity · 7 years
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What do you think about Steve and Buckys bdsm dynamics?? When I read Evanstan it’s the most logical thing in the world to me that Chris is the gentle dom. Your writing on that is some of my fave. But I can never pin down stucky in my head? I’ve read some where they switch but some of my faves are Steve being The sub, and desperately missing his dom while they were separated. It just clicks for me! I know Chris and Steve aren’t the same (and Steve isn’t real at all lol) but it’s funny to me (1/2)
(2/2) funny to me that from a fandom frame of mind I have completely different interpretations of them :)
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That all makes perfect sense to me!
Chris and Steve aren’t the same people (nor are Seb and Bucky), and so the dynamics are necessarily different, so it makes absolute sense that we (general we) would interpret them differently as far as Evanstan versus Stucky bedroom dynamics! And the lovely thing about fandom is that we don’t have to choose - there are glorious bottom!Steve fics out there as well as splendid top!Steve fics, so whatever interpretation you want, there’ll be someone else who loves that idea too. :D :D
Just from my personal inclinations, if you’re asking what I think, so not speaking for anyone else: I think we all know how I feel about sub!Seb and praise kink and gentle Dom!Chris, by now *laughs* (to be fair, in my head Seb is also more of a sub than Chris really is a Dom, if that makes sense? I can read - and have even written one - fic with bottom!Chris needing some care, because I think that’s probably true on occasion, even though I firmly stand by bottom!Seb or sub!Seb most of the time - for the fictional value of true under discussion, that is!) so, to think about Stucky...
Like, I honestly do think Steve and Bucky would switch more, depending on what they each might need on any given day? I think Steve tries very hard to be whatever he’s needed to be, especially on behalf of other people, and that can go both directions. So, to run through this:
Dom!Steve would be doing it in order to give Bucky something Bucky needs (more on that in a sec) and knowing that he’s made Bucky feel good would feel good for him - one of Steve’s truths is that he’ll always save Bucky, whatever that means, and also on top of that Steve is totally a nurturer (trying to parent Wanda and even Peter Parker during the fight), and I suspect that it’d feel good for Steve to...use control in a way that’s for something good? Like, rather than being a soldier or Captain America, when it’s a fight, if he gives Bucky orders and Bucky enjoys that, that’s sort of reclaiming that as a good thing.
On the flip side, sub!Steve! Because Steve does give so much of himself and self-sacrifice to ridiculous lengths, and - going back to that first point - because he’s always trying to be what he’s needed to be - that can totally be read as sub!Steve: someone who needs to let go and be caught and yield himself into someone’s care for a while, to have someone care for him, which he rather desperately needs. And if he can be what’s asked of him, if he can be good and please someone he loves, in a simple safe loving setting like a bedroom and kink, then that’ll feel good too. And I imagine some days Steve comes home and needs that, and Bucky looks at him and knows that, and they slide into that dynamic without words.
Thinking about Bucky: I feel like Dom!Bucky is an interesting one to explore! I suspect that, like Steve, he’d do it in part *for* the person he loves - if Steve clearly needs that, Bucky can do that. And internally, for him, in some ways it’d be healing, post-Winter-Soldier: Bucky can use strength to make someone else feel good, a reclamation of self and agency and compassion. (Plus, Steve finds that strength and power hot. That’s nice.)
But then some days - especially post-Winter-Soldier - Bucky probably needs care too, being cherished and made to feel safe and taken care of; thinking about sub!Bucky, that also works well. There’s that being cared-for element, which Steve would love to do for him, petting him and making him feel good over and over; and then also with sub!Bucky there’s the willing relinquishment of control, the surrender by choice, which is so very profound in contrast to what happened to him with Hydra. With Steve he can choose to submit freely (and Steve still wants him, still loves him), and that means so much, and he can follow orders and have that be a good thing, he can be good, which, for Bucky, well. To be told that: yes. And so there’re probably days when Bucky needs that reminder too.
So! This got a lot longer than I expected. tl;dr version: Evanstan and Stucky are indeed different pairings with different dynamics, so it’s absolutely not weird to interpret them differently! Many things are valid and good! :D :D
And to answer what I personally think about them: Steve and Bucky actually switch pretty evenly, depending on the day and the mood and what they each need, and with Evanstan it’s most of the time gentle!Dom!Chris and sub!Seb (and that comes with different flavors of sub!Seb: bratty and playful and sassy, because we all know he can be and he’s got that mouth and that kinky brain, and Chris “I like someone who’ll tease me” Evans LOVES that, but sometimes also Seb’s that sweet shy boy he still is, who blushes at genuine compliments and worries about not being good enough and obeys orders promptly- as per their interview dynamics! - and Seb very much needs praise, which Chris is ALL about, that gentle cherishing) but then every once in a while Chris needs some soothing, some steadying, some care, someone to take him down when the anxiety’s loud, and Sebastian - who does love being good for people - will instantly notice, maybe even before Chris does himself, and will immediately start turning himself into a more assertive pillar of strength for Chris to lean on and surrender to and trust and listen to, if that’s what’s needed.
I hope that was an answer! I feel like I might’ve rambled...
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