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#also the 'i must do what i can' kills me bc sirius wants to help in the war so badly. is so ready to give anything and everything he has
kidfoundonstreets · 2 years
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last post AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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THEY TALK TEHY TALK THEY TALK THEY TALK THJEYYYY >:D
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HRLP.. casually asking his age that means that sirius couldve been waiting for dorothy for 10+ years.. damn THE “SO YOUNG” OK 500 YR OLD the only reason im not changing his name to old man is bc emo boy fits him more rlly like seeing them interact.. everybody here so interesting with each other
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ALSO YEAH EXACTLY. it throws me off because ashe seems a lot more emotional in this one bro if hes still living in the past  smacks ashe so much angst can fit in this bitch FLAHSBACK TIME!!!! i realized thgat its less the crystal and more him just replaying memories?? or its zooming more in on him idk its just my own take i guess someone hug him it feels like he isnt over whatever happened at all THE PIANO PLAYING PART HAHSAHDWQH “i guess this is my fate??” PIANO PLAYING ASHE WHEN calling it right now i think that she died in a fire somehow not from her illness. maybe. maybe
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WAY I GRIMACED AT THIS LINE..............................
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claire noticing devleopment i love her
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even if its really scaring me right now okay that was precious even if it was really depressing ashe therapy speedrun challenge GO! im glad they get to genuinely talk in this one it feels a lot more different with whats going to happen and tbh im living for it
good luck ashe i guess i really still wanna hug you they wouldnt grant it anyway. its a good wish and demons dont grant goodness and even if he did get his wish he still would never be the same because of how brutally he killed a person to get it and i dont think his family is really as healthy as he says or thinks they are it feels a lot like denial OKAY HELL YES FINAL DAY FLASHBACK TIME
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its such a good family
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WAIT HOLKY SHIT. RICHARD DID YOU DO THIS PROBABLY NOT NO HE LET HIM KNOW BUT HOLY SHIT
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THIS IS SO WHY WOULD YOU EVEN DO THIS??????????? I FEEL SO BAD FOR ASHE NONE OF THIS WAS EVEN DESERVEDI DONT GET IT  THE WAY HE WOULDVE HURRIED STRAIGHT INTO THERE AND PROBABLY WOUDLVE DIED AS WELL IF PEOPLE DIDNT HOLKD HIM BACK THATS JUST CRUEL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU EWHGGSWGHGWHHHWHGWHWHW I HATE MATTY 
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DUDE. I GET IT. COMPARISONS SUCK ASS BUT THAT WAS HIS ENTIRE FAMILY HE EVEN TRIED TO HELP YOU THIS IS MESSED UP  SO HE JUST ENDED UP HAVING BREAKDWONS AND DOING ALL OF THIS ITS NOT THAT I DONT FEEL SYMPATHY FOR EVERYTHING HES HAD TO DEAL WITH BUT HES RUINED SO MANY LIVES JFC the. thd resemblance with that face and the other faces he hallucinated on the others. what the fuck.
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it isnt his fault he was just trying to help lillian the amount of survivors guilt ashe must be feeling right now. that’s families and even your family carrying on your back. what the hell matty. getting burned to death is one of my worst fears and the way that this just happened so easily and his family could do nothing about it and all ashe could do was stare and struggle and watch this isnt his fault at all its mattys fault for being so careless with other peoples lives or it could just be noones fault but UGGHHHJHJHEUIYU this is just too messed up. no wonder ashe can’t accept it and is so desperate
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ashe 
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i dont blame him for reacting like that at all. he had his entire life burn before him and just clung to the thing that couldve helped him get it back
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the way that limes just in awe of how dead inside he looks  i cant get over this woah richard trying to reach out to him. that’s sweet but he’s too buried in his own mind
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how long has he been doing this. long enough to grow a huge braid i guess
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dude i cant take this i didnt exit out and just go speechless but i still died the fact that ashe in all of these try again try agains just kills claire over nad over hes done so much for his family and im sure that when he found out killing claire was what he had to do next his mind just thought of that as the next goal to do to get everything he wanted back i guess when he started laughing and stuff when he killed claire im taking this from reaper it was more based on adrenaline and the thought that he could finally have a good ending and not need to face the reality that everything he’s worked up to at this point + how he left his entire life behind for this + how one of his childhood best friends who he thought he could trust and tutor just full out backstabbed him by setting up the fire for certain deaths in the first place would all just crush him and hes justnjhjkhkj ashe deserved so much better. they all desevred so much better with the cards they were dealt and honestly? they all could take the witch’s heart and use it for a reasonable purpose i really like ashe. the actions he has done to achieve what he’s trying to do im sure hasn’t been pleasant or morally good but he’s desperate and doesn’t want his life to slip him by like that when it’s already too late he’s stuck himself on the stage of denial so deep that even if he does go back he won’t ever be completely healed im sure the thought scares him as well anyway good game. goodcharacter  i feel so empty and im bad at essays but im sure thge feelings will hit me hard later on another note 
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i love how shocked charlotte is at claire’s genuine kindness and sympathy. i think that makes a good dynamic with her and claire  jokes on you bitch youre talking to the softest angel and you dont even know
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charlotte has a point but being heartless is just something that claire wouldnt do tbh
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t4twolfstar · 3 years
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Pearl Jam songs as the marauders' story
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Red Mosquito - Remus is bit by Greyback
two steps ahead of him, punctures in your neck…/ Hoverin' just above your bed... (2x)/ I was bitten...must have been the devil…/ He was just paying me…/ A little visit, reminding me of his presence…
Jeremy - most of the song, Sirius
Okay so we’re going to look at the verses not the refrain for this one bc (TW su*) this song is based on an actual boy who diy died in front of his class so like no we’re not relating to that part but the “Clearly I remember/ Pickin’ on the boy/ Seemed a harmless little fuck/ But we unleashed the lion….Daddy didn't give affection, no/And the boy was something that mommy wouldn't wear”
Daughter - Sirius at home
Trans sirius in an abusive household………. “Mother reads aloud, child tries to understand it/Tries to make her proud/ The shades go down, it's in her head/ Painted room, can't deny that something's wrong/ Don’t call me daughter, not fit to”
Leash - Sirius and Remus’ toxic codependent love and then yelling at the establishment/people who say they’re too young going too deep too hard too fast
“Troubled souls unite/ We got ourselves tonight, oh/ I am fuel you are friends we got the means to make amends/ I am lost I'm no guide but I'm by your side/ I am right by your side….We will find a way we will find our place/ Drop the leash drop the leash/Get outta' my fuckin' face”
Why Go? - Sirius becoming disenchanted w his family
Trans Sirius too of course. She seems to be stronger/ But what they want/ Her to be is weak/ She could play pretend/ She could join the game, boy/ She could be another clone….don’t come visit/mother/ why go home?
Blood - Sirius’ family trying to make him into something he’s not
Spin me round/ Roll me over/ Fucking circus/ Stab it down/ One way needle/ Pulled so slowly/ Drains and spills/ Soaks the pages/ Fills their sponges/ It’s my blood/ It’s my blood
WMA - basically about all the big pureblood families that can get away w anything
“He won the lottery when he was born/ Took his mothers white breast to his tongue/ Do no wrong so clean cut/ Dirty his hands, it comes right off” (tw for song: police, implied police violence)
Do the Evolution - Sirius ranting abt/mocking his family
Admire me, admire my home/ Admire my son, he's my clone…./ I'll do what I want but irresponsibly/ It’s evolution, baby/ I’m a thief, I'm a liar/ There’s my church, I sing in the choir:/ (Hallelujah, hallelujah)
Bushleaguer - abt the aristocracy etc
This song is literally about George bush lmao but I love it abt the upper class
“Born on third, thinks he got a triple…./The aristocrat choir sings, "what's the ruckus?”/ The haves have not a clue/ The immenseness of suffering”
Mind your manners - You guessed it - Sirius rejecting his family
I've got an unfortunate feelin’/ I've been beaten down/I feel I don't believe/ And now the truth is coming out/ What they've taken is more than a vow/ They’ve taken your innocence/ And then they throw them on a burning fire/ All along they're sayin’/ Mind your manners
My father’s son - SIRIUS
I am my father's son,/ Yeah, too bad he was a psychopath and now I'm the next in line, , dear mother, yes, surely she's a work of art,…/Can I get a reprieve?/ This gene pool dark and deep…./Now father you're dead and gone and I'm finally free to be me,/ Thanks for all your dark gifts for which I've got no sympathy,/ I’m living in a walled-up place in the bounds of 5th symphony
Yellow Ledbetter - Sirius
Okay so 97% of the the lyrics are indecipherable when Eddie sings them but you can hear I don’t wanna stay
Go - Regulus to Sirius as he’s trying to leave
(Abuse tw) So sorry about this one yall …… .but yes I think this is regulus finally realizing that he shouldn’t have let things get so bad at home (Sirius blames him for not stepping in even tho he’s a child there’s nuance here etc) and he’s begging Sirius not to leave him here “Oh please don't go out on me don't go out on me now/ Never acted up before don't go on me now/ I swear I never took it for granted just thought of it now/ Suppose I abused you just passing it on….I pulled the covers over him shoulda' pulled the alarm/ Turned to my nemesis…Please don't go on me/ Don’t go on me/ Don’t go on me/ Don’t go on me/ please”
Rearviewmirror - Sirius running away
(Tw abuse) Time to emancipate/ I guess it was the beatings made me wise….Forced to endure/ What I could not forgive/ I seem to look away/ Wounds in the mirror waved/ It wasn't my surface most defiled
Can’t Keep - Sirius running away from home
I want to shake/ I want to wind out/ I want to leave/ This mind and shout/ I’ve lived/ All this life/ Like an ocean/ In disguise/ I don't live for ever/ You can't keep/ Me here
Hail, Hail - Remus and Sirius’ codependent strong love
A how I love you till the day I die...ah and beyond…/ are we going to the same place? If so, can I come?/ It’s egg rollin' thick and heavy...all the past we carry…
Release - Remus thinking about his dad
Remus’ dad is so full of guilt for his hand in remus’ transformations that he extracted himself from remus’ life. Remus laments here, “Oh, dear dad/ Can you see me now?/ I am myself/ Like you somehow” “I'll hold the pain/Release me” he’d would rather have a dad, guilt and all, here, than the self appointed absence but since you left me with the absence and grief and loss of it, at least release me from it, loosen your grip so I can move on.
Present Tense - Sirius and Remus talking probably laying in the forbidden forest assuaging one another’s beliefs of the gnarled beasts they think they are
BUGS - prob remus when he turns before the boys know
Bugs on my ceiling/ Crowded the floor/ Standing sitting kneeling…/ A few block the door/ And now the question’s:/ Do I kill them?/ Become their friend?/ Do I eat them?/ Do I join them?/ I’ll just stop now/ I’ll become naked/ And with the...I'll become one
Who you are - probably James at remus when he thinks he’s a big monster
Who are we?/ Who we are./ What’s your part? Who you are / You are who you are.
Save you - GOD THIS SONGG okay this is probably James @ Sirius when home life is bad and also Sirius @ Remus and also Remus @ Sirius it’s all of them @ all of them
Gonna save you fucker, not gonna lose you/ Feeling cocky and strong, can't let you go,/ Too important to me/ Too important to us, we'd be lost without you/ Baby, let yourself fall, I'm right below you now/ And fuck me if I say something you don't want to hear/ And fuck if you only hear what you want to hear/ Fuck me if I care, but I'm not leaving here/ You helped me when I was down, I'll help when you're down/ Why are you hitting yourself, c'mon hit me instead
Life Wasted - Sirius @ Reg re: leaving
I escaped it, a life wasted./ I’m never going back again…./ You're always saying you're too weak to be Strong./ You’re harder on yourself than just about Anyone/ Why swim the channel just to get this far?/ Halfway there, why would you turn around?
Severed Hand - Reg joins the death eaters
Big man stands behind an open door/ Said, leave your lady on the cement floor./ Got some kicks, want to take a ride?/ I said, yeah!/ Oh please understand I just need, my friend,/ A way a way a way home
Brain of J. - Reg and Sirius arguing after he joins the death eaters
The whole world will be different soon/ The whole world will be relieving/ You, you've been taught/ We’d been the same, now they got you in line/ Stand behind the stripes/ There will be order, so give it a good mind…./And by name/ The name they gave me/ The name I'm letting go
Deep - Regulus knows he’s in too deep
This is Regulus knowing he’s in too deep, Voldemort and the death eaters are such bad fucking people and he’s in too deep now (massive tw for this song for drugs and se*ual violence)
“Ponders his Maker, ponders his will/ in too deep/ can’t touch the bottom”
Pilate - Remus abt Sirius ;0)
Like Pilate I have a dog/ (Obeys listens kisses loves)/ Walks me out of town/ Still one's a crowd/ Making angels in the dirt/ Looking up looking all around
You Are - in love 🥰
Love is a tower/ Of strength to me/ I am the shoreline/ But you're the sea
Red Bar - the war begins
War, I’m crazy/ War I’m crazy I’m war the song is also a lil goofy so it’s maybe just like going crazy being so in it that it’s funny now
Porch - WARTIME EVERYONE @ THEIR LOVERS
It’s the war and everyone knows today could be their last day and tensions are running high in relationships and they love each other so much and need each other but snap at one another nonetheless
What the fuck is this world running to?/ You didn't leave a message/ At least I could have learned your voice one last time/ Daily minefield, this could be my time by you/ Would you hit me? Would you hit me?/ Hear my name, take a good look/ This could be the day/ Hold my hand, walk beside me
Thin Air - babes in love
There's a light, when my baby's in my arms,/ There’s a light, when the window shades are drawn…/ And I know she's reached my heart, in thin air.
All or None - More war time songs soz
Here's the selfless confession/ Leading me back to war/ Can we help that our destinations/ Are the ones we've been before?/ I still try to run on/ But it's all or none
Parting Ways - Lily @ James during the war
She knows their future's burning/ But she can smile just the same, same/ And though her mood is fine today/ There’s a fear they'll soon be parting ways
Love Boat Caption - Sirius/Remus, Lily/James, etc etc. during the war
Love boat captain/ Take the reigns and steer us towards the clear, here/ It’s already been sung, but it can't be said enough/ All you need is loveIt's an art to live with pain/ Mix the light into grey/ Lost nine friends we'll never know/ Two years ago today/ And if our lives became too long/ Would it add to our regret?…./Hold me and make it the truthThat when all is lost, there will be you
Evacuation - going into hiding
Lukin- Lily and James have to go into hiding
(Tw st*lking mention in explanation, gun mention in song) The song was written by Eddie when he was being stalked and he had to bring himself and his wife to a friend’s house for safety.
In Hiding - Lily and James are in hiding and enter Peter
No way in or out/ I turned and walked the hallways/ And pulled the curtains down…./I swallow the truth to keep from lying/ i'm no longer overwhelmed and it seems so simple now/ Yeah, it's funny how things change so much/ It’s all state of mind
Once - Peter Pettigrew betraying the marauders
Literally about someone committing a mass murder. “Once upon a time I could control myself.” “Mimic whats insane.”
Around the Bend - I'm so sorry ummm but Lily to Harry on Halloween 💀
I am wishing you a well…./ I hold your head deep in my arms/ My fingertips, they close your eyes/ Off you dream, my little child/ There’s a sun around the bend/ Please forgive me, won't you, dear?/ Please forgive and let me share with you, around the bend/ You’re an angel when you sleep/ How I want your soul to keep, on and on around the bend
Garden - Sirius being taken to Azkaban
He’s just taking his fate as it comes to him.
The direction of the eye/ So misleading/ The defection of the soul/ Nauseously quick/I will walk, with my hands bound/ I will walk, with my face blood/ I will walk, with my shadow flag/ Into your garden/ Garden of stone
Even flow - IS SO VERY MUCH SIRIUS IN AZKABAN
sung from the pov of an incarcerated person waiting for life to begin again
BUGS - Sirius in Azkaban (yes I already said this abt remus but idc)
Bugs on my ceiling/ Crowded the floor/ Standing sitting kneeling…/ A few block the door/ And now the question’s:/ Do I kill them?/ Become their friend?/ Do I eat them?/ Do I join them?/ I’ll just stop now/ I’ll become naked/ And with the...I'll become one
Black - Remus lamenting about Sirius’ perceived deception
Remembering their love and how now so many of his memories are tainted (by) black and that all of this has changed him fundamentally (star imagery, “black”, “tattooed everything”)
Indifference - Sirius in grimmauld place, sirius in Azkaban
Sirius taking his home life in stride until he can leave, taking Azkaban in stride bc it doesn’t matter any way bc he believes he deserve it anyway
“Pretend I'm free to roam/ I will make my way/ Through one more day in hell/ How much difference does it make?/ How much difference does it make?/ I will hold the candle/ Till it burns up my arm/ Oh, I'll keep takin' punches/ Until their will grows tired/ Oh, I will stare the sun down/ Until my eyes go blind/ Hey, I won't change direction/ And I won't change my mind/ How much difference does it make?/ How much difference does it make?/ I’ll swallow poison, until I grow immune/ I will scream my lungs out till it fills this room”
Alive - Remus post ’81
Eddie originally wrote the song as a lament - why did I live when he didn’t? Why am I still alive?
“Is something wrong she said, of course there is, you’re still alive she said, but do I deserve to be?”
Animal - Remus after ’81 when he needs to transform alone
Feat. A throwback to being turned (so tw: abd*ction) “Torture from you to me, yeah/Abducted from the street/I'd rather be with an animal”
Nothingman - Sirius and Remus after ’81
Once divided nothing left to subtract/ Some words when spoken can't be taken back/ Walks on his own with thoughts he can't help thinking/ Future’s above but in the past he's slow and sinking…./ She once believed in every story he had to tell/ One day she stiffened took the other side/ Empty stares from each corner of a shared prison cell/ One just escapes one's left inside the well
Smile - Remus @ the marauders (except it’s after ’81 and he just thinks of them fondly)
Don't it make you smile?/ I miss you already/ I miss you always/ I miss you already/ I miss you all day/ This is how I feel/ Three crooked hearts swirls all around/ Don’t it make you smile?
In my tree - remus abt sirius after ’81
I remember him, yeah…/ I swore I knew everything, oh yeah…/ They say knowledge is a dream, yeah…/ He's growing up just like me, yeah…
Light Years - Remus abt Sirius
But now you're gone, I haven't figured out why/ I’ve come up with riddles and jokes about war/ I’ve figured out numbers and what they're for/ I’ve understood feelings and I've understood words/ But how could you be taken away?/ Back pages and days alone that could have been spent/ Together, but we were miles apart Every inch between us becomes light years now
I’m open - Remus!!!! Post ’81
After spending half his life searching he still felt as blank/ As the ceiling at which he stared/ He is alive but feels absolutely nothing/ So is he?/ When he was six he believed that the moon overhead followed him/…..So this is what it's like to be an adult/ If he only knew now what he knew then
Thumbing my Way - Remus post ’81 again blah blah ikik
I can't be free with what's locked inside of me/ If there was a key you took it in your hand/ There’s no wrong or right but I'm sure there's good and bad/ The questions linger overhead
Rats - we know how remus like to soliloquize …. This is him waxing poetic about how fucking horrible Peter is
The song itself is kind of listing the many ills of humankind saying how rats don’t compare to people bc they don’t do all this. But Peter isnt really a rat. He’s a man and oppresses like a man and betrays like a man and takes like a man.
“Drink the blood of their so-called best friend….They don't scurry when something bigger comes their way….Don't take what's not theirs“
Oceans - Sirius escaping Azkaban
Hold on to the thread/ The currents will shift, glide me towards/ You know something's left/ And we're all allowed to dream of the next…..The sea will rise/ Please stand by the shore/ I will be there once more
Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town - Sirius after Azkaban
200004309248% sirius returning from 12 years isolated. He doesn’t really recognize most things. Remus wouldn’t recognize him. He’s different. Changed by being unchanged. He couldn’t grow and learn and morph and become. He stagnated yet decayed. But he’s back and he recognizes your skin and your breath. He’s back.
Off He Goes - Sirius is a Sagittarius in the first half, second half is post PoA
Know a man his face seemed pulled and tense/ Like he's riding on a motorbike in the strongest winds/ So I approach with tact/ Suggest that he should relax/ But he's always movin' much too fast/ Said he'll see me on the flip side/ On this trip he's taken for a ride…./ And now I rub my eyes for he has returned/ Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned/ For he still smiles and he's still strong/ Nothing’s changed, but the surrounding bullshit, that has grown/ And now he's home, and we're laughing, like we always did/ My same old, same old friend/ Until a quarter-to-ten
All Those Yesterdays - and cue the bath scene, remus washes his lost love
Don't you think you oughta rest?/ Don’t you think you oughta lay you head down?/ You don't think there's time to stop/ There’s time enough for you to lay your head down tonight tonight/ Let it wash away/ All those yesterdays
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twdmusicboxmystery · 4 years
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Acorn Symbolism: Romance, Promises, and Peter Pan!
Morning Everyone! Sorry it’s taken me so long to get this posted. As I keep saying, cray week. So, I said before that I thought they represented romantic love And I stand by that. For one thing, there are both a male and female component in the germination of acorn seeds. Hence, the romantic love symbol.
But let me mention a few other important acorn references as well.
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@frangipanilove​ pointed out Daryl’s line to Carol last season about Ezekiel being “corny.” A play on the word acorn, perhaps? Now, maybe that’s a silly word play, but given the Serious/Sirius references and “Del Arno Foods,” it’s obvious that the TWD writers don’t mind silly word plays.
Now, @frangipanilove is working on a “nut” theory that will probably be much more comprehensive than this one. She has other “corn” references that are specifically around Ezekiel. I’ll leave that to her. But I suppose you could argue that this is a Carzekiel thing, rather than a Bethyl thing.
Or is it?
I would argue that it might simply be…a romantic love thing. After all, people in love tend to wax a little corny, right?
But there’s something else @wdway​ thought of that kinda proves the acorn reference is tied to Beth. I’d completely forgotten about this acorn reference in the show, so kudos to her for her awesome memory.
Do you remember there being acorns in the show before? Think about it for a minute. I will say it’s pretty subtle.
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Okay, so take a stroll down memory lane to 5x11, The Distance. That’s two episodes after Coda and the one directly after 5x10, where the music box woke up. TF brings Aaron into the barn, Rick knocks him out, and they spend the episode trying to figure out whether he’s trustworthy or not, and also driving to Alexandria for the first time.
At one point, Rick sends everyone out of the barn to hide in various places and keep watch in case Aaron is part of a larger group that might be a threat to them. Then Judith starts crying because she’s hungry, and Aaron offers the applesauce in his bag, right?
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But just before that, Rick tries to mash up acorns for her to eat. Voila! Acorn reference!
Why is that important? Because this scene has almost every major TD symbol in it, sitting in that barn. We have the flare gun (fire), a bottle of water with "Greendale springs” written on it, the music box itself, bullets, toilet paper, the applesauce, and even a dog reference (Fido) on top of the applesauce jar.
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And this is the barn from 5x10, outside of which the music box has just awakened.
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So, the acorns are most definitely a Beth reference.
Where do we take it from there? I’m not sure. I do think it’s significant that we saw acorns around Aaron right after the music box woke up, and we’re seeing them again now, right when something is happening with Aaron and the Whisperers. To me, that says Beth is about to appear.
Also, I won’t go into all the details now, but 5x11, The Distance, is another episode you should go back and watch if you can. There are SO many amazing references in that episode that we had no way of identifying the first time through. Eugene makes a “copulating dogs” reference. Rosita says, “we’re halfway there,” which I can’t help but see as S5 being half way to S10, suggesting the “dog” will return in S10. Tons of stuff like that all through it. Go watch! 😝
If you look up acorn symbolism, they can represent strength, much like the oak tree (which I’ll talk about in a minute). But that could also represent Beth’s strength. They can tell the future, so yes, they definitely portend something Daryl’s future, and are kind of the ultimate foreshadowing symbol. They suggest looking deep within ourselves (Daryl feelings for Beth) and that if something is nurtured in the right way, it can become powerful. Again, Beth nurtured Daryl like no one ever has.
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@frangipanilove​ and I researched the phrase Carol uses, “double capper.” It doesn’t seem to be a real thing. I just figured it was slang, but it’s not coming up in online searches as even that. So I don’t think it means anything by itself. It’s just something mean to draw our attention to the acorn and its symbolism.
Also, the “double” part (2) might represent that we’ve hit the second phase. This hearkens back to retellings and the fact that carrots take two seasons to grow into maturity. It’s something I haven’t mentioned for a while, but we always figured there would be, symbolically, two stages or two times around for Beth and Daryl. The first was S4/S5, and they, as characters, hadn’t matured all the way at that point. We always saw it as Beth returning as stronger, more mature in her character and survival skills, etc. But it’s true of Daryl as well, at least emotionally. This is something I have touched on recently, about how he does understand his own feelings now and will be able to communicate them. So again, the “double” part might represent that we’ve entered phase 2, which is just a fancy way of saying we’re in the part where Beth will return.
Oak Trees
Let’s talk about oak trees, which produce acorns. You might even call acorns the offspring of the oak tree.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell what kind of trees we’re seeing, because we don’t get close up shots of the leaves. But we think all the trees in Fear, on which we’ve seen ladders painted, and Alicia is now painting Phoenixes, are oak trees. (Ladder Theory, Phoenix Theory).
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We also talked about the tree in the opening credits—the one the plate glass windows hang from—and whether it might be an oak or not. We also looked up biblical symbolism because we all know biblical symbols are big in TWD, and they’re a big deal in the bible as well.
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There are several cases of the holy men of the bible (including Abraham, Jacob, and Joshua) making sacred vows under oak trees. Sometimes they bury things in token of these oaths. Jacob’s is very significant, especially as it is entangled with the story of Jacob’s ladder, and remember that in FTWD, we’ve seen ladders painted on oak trees.
One story that stood out to me was that of Joshua. Reading it, I became convinced that the tree we see in the opening credits is, indeed, an oak tree. Let me explain.
In the story, Joshua utters the famous line, “as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” He then asks if the people will do the same. They make a solemn oath to always serve the Lord, and they do it under an oak tree. Joshua puts a rock under the tree (which represents Christ, btw) and says if they break their promise, the rock will testify against them in judgement.
So, the oak tree = a solemn promise. It occurred to me that’s pretty much what Rick did under the tree with the plate glass pictures hanging on it at the end of S8. He made an oath to honor Carl’s last wishes and not kill Negan. (“My mercy overcame my wrath.) And if that was an oak, then the one in the opening credits must be as well. (Bc of the plate glass pictures.)
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And the more I think about it, the more significant that becomes. I don’t want to go into all the details of this today (because this post is about acorns), but I’ve said before that I think Negan will lead to Beth in some way (hence all the bats we saw around her). And the only reason Negan is still alive is because of Rick’s “oath” to let him live in order to honor Carl’s last wishes.
Remember the Phoenix near Carl at his death? (Alicia is painting phoenixes on trees in FTWD.) Well, if Carl hadn’t died, I absolutely think Rick would have simply executed him at the end of AOW. And if Negan is as instrumental in Beth’s return as I think he’ll be, then that’s super important. You could argue that but for Carl’s death, Beth wouldn’t have ever returned. Which explains the phoenix we saw just before Carl’s death.
Also, these new opening credits that start and kind of center around the oak tree began in S9, after AOW ended. Which says to me that Rick’s oath (keeping Negan alive, etc) is what’s driving this part of the story, now. So, this really is all beautifully and intricately connected.
And how do we go from the oath under the oak tree to an acorn symbol? How should we interpret that?
Well, this may become more specific as we learn more, but for now, here’s how I think of it. Just as the acorn is the offspring—or offshoot, if you will—of the oak tree, so Beth’s return (and Daryl’s happiness) will be a result or offshoot of Carl’s death and Rick’s oath.
Peter Pan:
All right, I’m going to switch gears and talk about one more possibility for this acorn reference that the lovely @weapon13whitefang​.
She said between the acorn in this scene with Carol and Daryl, and the “kiss” reference, she was immediately reminded of Peter Pan. In Peter Pan, there are tokens of kisses exchanged. Like thimbles. Peter didn’t know what a kiss was, so Wendy gave him a thimble, which was a token of a kiss. 
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In return, Peter actually gives Wendy an acorn button. Now, technically, this is not an actual acorn (though many PP interpretations use actual acorns). Rather this was a term for a button made of wood, which in slang, was known as an “acorn button.” (Source) In symbol of their friendship, Peter and Wendy wore their gifts for one another around their necks on necklaces. Wendy’s acorn button even saved her life when the Lost Boys (on Tinkerbell’s angry lie) shot her out of the sky. The button stopped the arrow from piercing her heart and killing her.
This has SO many promising implications.
But first thing’s first. My first thought was about what this meant for the question of romance. You all know I don’t think this signifies romance between Carol and Daryl—I know it doesn’t—but I need to be able to explain why.
So, Wendy and Peter exchanged tokens, much like Carol giving Daryl an acorn in this past episode. The question is, was there ever romance between Wendy and Peter?
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Meh…a little bit. Wendy was definitely crushing on Peter when she first met him, though it was as much the prospect of adventure as anything else. (Which might have also been true of Carol early on, especially as Daryl helped her search for Sophia.) 
But think about it in the long term. Things don’t work out romantically between Wendy and Peter. Wendy leaves Neverland, grows up, gets married and has kids, where Peter doesn’t. They always have a deep and abiding friendship—and even love—for one another. They wear their token necklaces for decades after their adventures together. But romance? No, it’s not really part of the story.
In fact, if you want to get REALLY detailed, why did Wendy first become disillusioned with Neverland? Because she came to understand that Peter brought her there, not as a girlfriend or companion, but to be a MOTHER to the Lost Boys. (Daryl and Carol have a mother/son relationship, as confirmed by Norman in S7.)
You could also argue that Carol finally putting the tragedy of Sophia behind her and marrying Ezekiel and finding happiness represents Wendy moving on from Neverland and getting married and having kids. Daryl is still Peter Pan in Neverland who’s never sustained a real relationship before. Of course, we think he will, when Beth returns. But for now, the Peter and Wendy analogy is very apt.
And it opens up a lot of possibilities for me. I’m super intrigued as to what will happen with this acorn. He put it in the pocket of his vest. Will it save his life? Deflect a bullet or something? Or is this less literal than that? If it represents Beth or his relationship with her, maybe it foreshadows that she’ll save his life in some way. (Something we’ve all theorized about for a LONG time.)
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I also think it’s interesting that Wendy was flying when she was shot out of the sky and the acorn button saved her. They even called her the Wendy-Bird. Now, granted, in this analogy, Carol, more than Beth is Wendy. But still. 
1) We saw a plane crash this past season on FTWD, and we’ve seen several helicopter crashes, including one on the roof of Big Spot in 4x01 (Beth) and one when Merle returned in 3x01 (resurrection of character). 
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These are representations of birds falling out of the sky. You MIGHT even be able to lump the satellite in with that. I don’t know if satellites are ever referred to as birds, but it did fall out of the sky, after all. 
2) How many birds have been used around Beth as symbolism? Blue Heron. Yellow Wagtail. Phoenix. Songbird.
3) And of course there’s a major precedent for the writers using children’s stories as symbolic templates in the show. The Wizard of Oz. Little Red Riding Hood. The Little Prince (FTWD). Why not Peter Pan?
So yeah. I gotta stop now, but let’s just say I’m still loving the acorn symbol and the acorn scene. They portend great things for TD and Bethyl. 🎉
Which acorn interpretation is your favorite and why?
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sorry for the onslaught of asks djekfkd but Also... im already writing like three tua fics but now i wanna write either an au where remus went to azkaban instead of sirius Or just a fic abt remus and tonks being friends (where sirius is alive. obviously) so im just like that gif of kermit screaming
PLEASE DO NOT WRITE A FIC WHERE REMUS GOES TO AZKABAN WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU REMUS DOESN’T NEED THAT DON’T YOU KNOW WHAT HE’S BEEN THROUGH MY GOD
to be fair sirius would break him out like. immediately bc there’s absolutely no way he’d believe remus was the spy (bc they’re in love; the only reason remus could believe that of sirius was because he’d already thought it was too good to be true, that someone like sirius could want someone like him, etc etc low self-esteem blah blah angst etc etc; but even then deep down he doesn’t actually believe it, but there’s nothing he can do about it so he convinces himself that he was just a part of the plot against the potters), and then he’d. god idk what he’d do but remus CANNOT go there i’ll kill you
but ugh yeah can you imagine remus and sirius being like. tonks’ cool gay uncles and she’s super close with them and they helped her through the process of realizing she’s also gay and then later on they help harry through coming to terms with being bi, then ginny too, and then they’re just a little gay family that keeps growing and growing
remus/tonks is literally probably my biggest upset and hang-up with the series, or at least it’s right up at the top with like. the epilogue (and anything she’s written since really, including the-play-that-must-not-be-named) being ridiculously inconsistent with their characters [including harry naming his kid after snape.]
the whole relationship was uncomfortable and unhealthy and inorganic and it really just obliterated tonks’ character for me, like even before i really actively started thinking about remus and sirius i remember being taken off-guard by the beginning of their relationship subplot, especially when jkr had been laying hints about ron and hermione from the start. like aside from the fact that he’s way too old for her....what do they possibly have in common? there’s zero chemistry between them in OOTP (hmmm perhaps because sirius is there? interesting), then HBP picks up and the first time we see tonks she’s upset about remus. it’s like she had been planning to give remus and sirius the same kind of “hint of a love affair but nothing stated explicitly, but the survivor never loves again” thing she gave dumbledore, and then was like “nah, happiness means a wife and 2.5 kids, so let’s find him a wife. hmm...who’s a character the fans like who’s also a single woman....” and tonks was the only one she could think of bc the rest were harry’s age, and she figured tonks was “old enough”
but the funniest part is she literally made it explicit that remus did not want to be in a relationship with tonks. we’re meant to believe that remus was merely saying that because of his low self-esteem, but like. even if we insist on reading it as subterfuge, he could just as easily be putting it on himself so he doesn’t have to flat-out tell her that he’s not interested in her. and then after dumbledore (his fucking. personal hero yknow) dies (just a year after sirius, remember), one of his favorite and most trusted professors (mcgonagall) and molly and everyone urge him to be with her, even slapping him with the “dumbledore would’ve been happy to know there was more love in the world” or whatever the quote is
like . what’s he gonna do. of course he’s gonna agree to it. and then increasingly, every single time harry sees remus he looks worse than the last time, while tonks looks happier than ever. this is not a relationship of two people in harmony with one another. it’s not a relationship where it’s difficult to be happy when the person you love is going through something. it’s a relationship that very blatantly did not make sense and did not work, and was a result of circumstance and war.
the only time we see remus happy is when teddy is born, but a child doesn’t magically (lol) fix a relationship. i don’t see how, if they’d lived, remus and tonks could spend the rest of their lives married to one another. even if we want to believe tonks was as into remus as the books claim, remus would realize quickly that it wasn’t what he wanted. 
but jkr didn’t have to deal with the “ok....the war’s over....now what?” of their relationship bc she killed them off
oh my god i’m so sorry that was really long skdjlfksjdf i’m h*gh and i also took my adderall this morning so if i start writing something i just like. don’t stop 
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Wait For Me: Young!Remus Lupin x Reader // Part One
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Request: Could you please write a fanfic about remus being a mess bc of the full moon (totally nervous/moody before and injured/tired after) and the reader being worried and comforting him? lots of fluff but kinda in sad way.
A/N: Okay, so, the first thing I’m sure you notice is that this is only part one. I felt that it would make sense to do it in parts since the request asks for a before and after of Remus’ full moon thing. 
That being said, the second part will probably come out shortly (either tomorrow or Sunday, but who knows with my lazy ass, sorry), and it wont be nearly as long as this one, I hope. 
This is goes up to right when he leaves, just so ya’ll know. 
Just a quick disclaimer, this part is extremely similar to Cried Wolf. I wasn’t too sure if I was going to do this at first because of the similar imagine that I’d already done, but I decided that I could make this different in some aspect so, yeah. 
OH, also. I know I’ve been writing a lot for Remus, due to the requests. More James and Sirius fics are being written, they’re just currently on hold right now. Just thought I’d let you know for all Pads and Prongs fans. 
Anywho, Enjoy! ♥
Word Count: 1893
Warnings: Fluff, FEELS (Why have I done this to my heart)
"Remus, you need to get up." Sirius spoke loudly in his left ear as he brought the pillow down on his head for the third time.
Responding with a low groan, Remus rolled over, covering the side of his head with a pillow of his own.
"Dammit, Moony, get up!" Sirius yelled this time, his voice holding more irritation as he ripped the pillow from Remus' hand.
Groaning again, he rolled onto his back and squinted up us. "Why do you even care, Pads?" He sighed, running and hand up his face and through his messy hair as he slowly got up from the bed.
"Unlike you, I don't enjoy seeing worried women." Dropping the pillow on the floor, he turned to me, heaving a long sigh. "Good luck with him, he's impossible right now."
"Thanks, Sirius."
"Anytime, gorgeous." He said, patting me on the shoulder. "I'll take my leave now, guessing Mr. Wolfy over there wants me gone." He said with a smirk, cocking his head in the direction of Remus who still sat on his bed, glaring at us.
With that, Sirius turned around and began walking to the door, throwing his right hand in the air as a makeshift wave. No sooner than when the door shut, Remus fell back onto the bed and threw his hands into his hair.
"Rem.." I sighed, sitting beside him.
Lifting my hand, I hovered it over his bare shoulder, causing his body to flinch away from me. "Don't touch me." He spoke quietly, moving his hands from his hair to over his face.
Sighing to myself, I rested my hand back on my lap and turned my gaze to the wall in front of me. Taking a deep breath, I closed my eyes. "You always bottle everything up and force this wall between everyone..." opening my eyes I turned my gaze back down to Remus. "Why don't you understand that I want to help you?"
"I don't want to see you hurt, Y/N, It'd kill me." He had suddenly sat up and was now sitting right in front me, holding my shoulders. "If you got hurt...because of me..." His face twisted into some sort of disturbed expression as his eyes scanned my face, "....Merlin, I wouldn't know what to do with myself."
"Here you go again, you need to understand that I don't care if I get hurt, knowing I was able to help you is all I need." I could already feel my irritation growing from this conversation. Why did I decide to talk about this right after he got up?
"You should, caring about something like me is...useless." He whispered awkwardly with a pained laugh, letting his hands fall from my shoulders.
There was no way I could handle this conversation again. Getting up I stood in front of him and pulled him out of the bed, revealing his toned body. Clearing my throat I looked away, knowing that if I stared any longer my face would start to flush. "Well, you can't just lay in bed all day, go make yourself look decent."
Pulling his eyebrows together, he looked me up and down. "We don't have class...why exactly do I need to get up?"
Sirius was right, Remus is absolutely impossible when it comes to this. "Because you're human being and you need sunlight." I said, walking over to door.
Looking at me for a moment, he sighed and started walking towards the bathroom, muttering incomprehensible words to himself along the way.
"How's Moony?" James greeted me as soon as I walked into the common room, a worried look on his face.
"How he usually is...absolutely impossible." I replied, throwing myself into the couch beside Sirius, who seemed to be having a conversation with Peter. "I get it, he's under a lot of stress, and I couldn't even begin to imagine what he's going though, but..." frustrated thoughts rushed into my head as I put my head in my hands. Heaving a sigh, I closed my eyes, "...I just wish he was more open about it, ya know?"
Tuning into the conversation, Sirius gently set his hand on my back, trying to calm me down. "Believe me when I say we completely understand, love, you're not alone in this." He said with a smile. "Hell, we've dealt with this for years and we know next to nothing about what he goes though." He chuckled quietly, earning a nod from both James and Peter.
"Though we do tease him about it all the time." James smirked, running a hand up the back his neck and through his hair. "So I suppose I can sort of understand why he wouldn't tell us, though I wish he would."
"Maybe if you just try to subtly talk to him about it he'll open up more?" Peter suggested.
"I highly doubt that, but I guess it's worth a try." I said with a shrug.
As if on cue Remus came walking in, running his hands through his damp hair in an attempt to make it look decent. "What's worth a try?"
Something inside me panicked when I heard his voice and I searched for some sort of excuse for us talking about him.
"My chances with Y/N, whaddya say, love?" Sirius blurted out with a smirk, slinging an arm around my shoulder and pulling me against his chest.
I'd never been more thankful for him until just now.
Rolling my eyes I lightly pushed against his chest, bringing myself back into the position I was just in. "You could only wish, Black."
Clearing his throat, Remus raised an eyebrow at Sirius. "Gonna have to agree with Y/N, that'll never happen."
Setting a hand over his chest, Sirius' mouth fell open as if he was just insulted. "You wound me,  Moony."
Gazing over a Sirius, Remus let out an uncomfortable chuckle before suddenly taking my hand and pulling me up, "Let's go." Without a second to spare he laced our fingers together and pulled me along with him.
"You kids be safe now." James laughed from behind us as the painting swung closed.
"Rem, where we going?" I asked, he was still pulling me with him, and as far as I could see, he didn't seem to have a specific place in mind. "Remus?"
Stopping abruptly, he turned around. "Anywhere away from Sirius." He sighed.
Away from Sirius?
"Something happen between you two?" I asked, squeezing his hand lightly as he rubbed the back of his neck, an awkward smile adorning his face.
He didn't hear us talking about him, right?
"Ahem-uh, it's not really that big a deal... it's actually kind of stupid when I think about it." He chuckled. "I just-uh, suppose I got a bit irritated with how casually he touched you." He  coughed awkwardly and then looked up at me, as if expecting me to say something.
I could feel a smile tug at my face as I proceeded to not say anything. Yet another side effect of the moon, an overprotective, jealous Remus.
Clearing his throat again he looked away, "Full moon and all, ya know...if you-uh, want to go back, I have no right to stop you..." he started rambling from my lack of an answer.
"Rem, its fine, you could've just told me you were jealous." I said, trying to make the mood lighter due to our conversation from earlier.
"Not." He responded with a sheepish grin.
"Uh-huh, then I'll head back to Sirius now, see you later." I mocked, pulling my hand from his.
"Yeah, yeah, okay." He laughed, sarcasm leaking from his words as he caught my wrist and pulled me back.
"Alright then." I laughed as he laced our fingers together again, "where are we headed?"
"I didn't actually have a plan..." He chuckled as he started walking down one of the long hallways.
Figured.
"Well, we can just walk around for awhile. I just want to spend time with you before...you know." The cheerful atmosphere was gone in a flash and replaced with a sad one as I looked up at him.
"Yeah...that's fine," he responded quietly, a sad look on his face. "Lets go, love."
We must have been walking around for hours, talking about nothing in particular as we held hands. It was a nice feeling, though, knowing this moment would end at some point had me practically clinging to him.
We had somehow made our way outside and into the garden, where we sat on a wooden bench. The sun had down and it was only a matter of time before he'd have to go.
"Love..." Remus whispered from beside me, taking a stray piece of my hair and tucking it behind my ear. "It's about that time..."
"I-I know." I sighed, burying my face in his sweater-covered arm.
Taking his arm out of my grasp, he quickly wrapped it around my shoulders and set his chin on the top of my head. I placed my face against his chest and took a long breath, a subtle mixture of his cologne and chocolate filled my nose, the pure scent of safety.
His long fingers lazily stroked my arm, occasionally tracing small circles over the fabric of my shirt. Kissing the top of my head, he slowly pulled away, taking my hand in his. Bringing my hand to his mouth, he gently ran his lips over my knuckles before planting a small kiss to each one.
"I'll be back soon." He whispered against my hand, not daring to open his eyes. "Please don't worry too much."
I could feel the tears prickling the backs of my eyes as I watched him. "H-how could I not?" My voice had somehow become hoarse.
He's asking me not worry? He knows that's impossible.
Dropping my hand back down, he ran his thumb over my palm. "I know, I shouldn't have asked that of you, I just worry about you when I'm gone."
"You worry about me? You? About me?" I scoffed, laughing a bit as I looked at him through my tears.
Finally looking up at me, Remus' green eyes wavered a bit as they met mine before he immediately closed them again. "Merlin...if you look at me like that it makes it impossible to leave." He whispered, a self-deprecating laugh leaving his mouth.
"S-sorry." I whispered as I tried laughing, only for it to come out as a cry.
"I'll be back before you know it, two days isn't that long." He whispered, bringing his eyes back up to mine.
At that statement, a tear left my right eye and within seconds, I was full on crying. "I-It's too l-long when I k-know your life is o-on the line..." I managed to make out as Remus pulled me back into his chest.
"Shh," he whispered from above me as his arms tightened around my body, lightly rubbing a thumb back and forth over my lower back. "M'sweet girl..." he mumbled, pressing his lips against my head. "I promise, I'll be back, love."
My hands balled into his fists as I held onto his sweater, trying desperately to stop the tears from flowing. "Please...b-be safe." I whispered, forcing myself away from him.
Giving me a small nod, Remus leaned forward, letting his lips meet mine for a fraction of a second before pulling away. "It wont be long just-"
"-Wait for me."
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