Jessie saying "the women of Shadow and Bone can do no wrong" is the truest thing anyone has ever said or will say
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Talking about how the show adapted Nina vs how the show adapted Alina
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I'm not normal about never seeing Yuli and Simon as Fedyor and Ivan/Fivan getting their plotline & their happy ending in s3 again.
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i love watching shadow and bone bc i never know whats going on and the plot never makes any sense but ben barnes and jessie mei li are the prettiest people ive ever seen
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okay can we talk about how stunning dani, amita and jessie looked at the premiere??
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real bisexual panic is seeing Ben Barnes and Jessie Mei Li on screen together and not being able to decide who is hotter
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was shadow and bone season 2 the best? no. was every single actor fantastic? yes.
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Alina in season 1: You may have needed me… but I never needed you
Alina in season 2: I will save myself
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HOLY SHIT!! ALINA FUCKING STARKOV!11!!!!
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Why’s it that Belly from tsitp and Alina from shadow and bone were race bent to be Asian but the fandom embraced them without complaint while black Annabeth and most other black characters get threats and harassment campaigns?
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You know why.
But also, if you think no one complained, both for good and bad reasons, you haven't looked.
The level and obnoxiousness of complaints does tend to depend on the actor in question, what they look like, how they're made up, etc. Lola Tung is 3/4 European, 1/4 Chinese. Jessie Mei Li is half English, half Chinese. Dickheads find this less ~challenging~.
That does not mean that no Asian actress is going to get a virulent hate campaign. It happens all the time, both for racebent casting and for other reasons. Remember all the shit Kelly Marie Tran got, both from openly racist white fanboys and from whinyass Finnrey shippers pretending they were doing anti-racist work?
It also depends on the relative size of the source material fandom vs. the adaptation fandom. PJO is exactly the kind of thing where people hit the roof over any change. Are they being racist? Yes, absolutely. Would they be equally stupid but in a less offensive way about some other change? Also yes.
But yeah, looked at in aggregate, people totally are the biggest clowns about black characters. Look at the response to Rue. That wasn't even a change! People were just too dumb to read some line in the book that literally spelled out her skin color. Absolute idiots.
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what eric heisserer did to alina’s character was absolutely devastating
first of all she got less than two hours of the whole timeline of the whole s2 as a main character.
if they made shadow and bone crossed with the crows, which was absolutely unnecessary and dumb decision because they sidelined even crows themselves and didn’t enlighten none of the problems crows themselves suffered like what jesper and nina felt as grishas or what happened to inej. all of it just to lift kaz’s backstory.
and yes, if they made kaz and alina leads, why kaz got his lines from the books and alina got none when originally this show & books were about her and her only
they promised they’d explore alina’s heritage but by some reasons she was the only person who didn’t get any backstory and they left no clue who are her parents and did other sun summoners exist before. sorry I don’t accept the book ending either because alina was only special and leigh left her powerless with some stinky otkazat’sya on a farm.
and what we got? “empty promises” as said alina in s2 but darkling’s promises were real and the writers’ aren’t. even jessie mei li wasn’t much comfortable about the decision of alina’s complete erasure.
I also can write miles of text how badly they treated the actress herself how they made jessie stay the longest on set, didn’t include most of scenes and how they made everyone shoot in a warm clothes (darkling’s death scene) in 35 degrees hot.
what drives me more mad is that mal knows whose descendant he is, why is he like this but NOTHING for alina. and I even know why, because in any case if alina’s backstory was in the book & show the ending wouldn’t fit leigh’s and eric’s narratives (alina’s terrible ending)
alina is the most powerful and the most interesting and the most unexplored character even in the books and I’m so angry they made her asian just to violently sideline her
also as I remember correct one writer was also involved in a show that erased asian character (dc titans?)
the only and only thing about the show is alina ending up a queen, surrounded by grisha and a good husband who may not be her lover but he’s protective, will always listen to her, will never whine , will help her etc (I’ll forever annoy y’all with my darkolina agenda)
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SO BEN BARNES TURNED COMPLETELY IRRITATED AFTER WATCHING ALINA SAY I LOVE YOU TO MAL
Turning to Jessie saying he doesn’t want to watch it
Turning grumpy AF during the interview
And Jessie becomes overly affectionate head on his shoulder, hands on his arms and thighs and OMG I AM DYING AT HER RESTING HER ARMS ON HIS THIGHS
And Ben Barnes is a jealous bastard y’all
ALSO BEN BARNES CALLING JESSIE BABY I AM DEAD
Interview link for people who want to see Jessie Mei Li and Ben Barnes being an irritated grumpy lion and lioness trying to soothe:
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SAVE SHADOW AND BONE 3 & SIX OF CROWS SPIN-OFF
Netflix HAS to get its act together. The fact that they keep on canceling absolutely phenomenal shows is actually devastating because we love them. We love them and laugh with them and cry with them, and then Netflix just ends them, even though our shows are amounting to something so much greater. But I’ll admit, my breaking point has to be the cancellation of Shadow and Bone 3 and the Six of Crows spin-off. Learning that just broke me completely because all of GrishaVerse, especially my gorgeous Crows, have been so important to me. And seeing it all come to life in front of me…that’s a kind of beautiful I can’t explain. But then suddenly finding out that this show is done and the cast aren't going to film together, especially regarding the fact that six amazing people - Freddy, Amita, Kit, Jack, Danielle, Calahan - will never be seen on screen together ever as our Crows…and reading their goodbye posts…
So, I’M DONE. I’M COMPLETELY FED UP WITH NETFLIX TAKING UP OUR BELOVED FANDOMS AND DROPPING THEM ON THE GROUND WHILE PUTTING UP TRASH ON PEDESTALS. So once we're done, there will be no mourners, and no funerals! (Except for maybe five mourners and one funeral, but that’s not anything new…)
Also, please sign the petition ((I’ve linked it below)). It takes nothing to do so, and I know that we, this incredible fandom, will come for them, for this. And if we couldn't walk, we’d crawl to them, and no matter how broken we end up, we'd fight our way out together - pencils drawn, keyboards blazing. Because that's what we do. We never stop fighting. We SHALL never stop fighting for our GrishaVerse, and everything Leigh Bardugo has created for us, because that is what we do. We are lovers and we are fighters, so with our love and with our fight, we are going to get our show back.
~Thank you, Vee
Petition Link:
Netflix Requests: (it would be such an inconvenience if an entire fandom were to spam this)
The Cast's Good-Bye Posts:
Freddy Carter (Kaz Brekker)
Kit Young (Jesper Fahey)
Amita Suman (Inej Ghafa)
Calahan Scokgman (Matthias Helvar)
Jessie Mei Li (Alina Starkov)
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Shadow and Bone Season 2 premieres March 16, 2023 on Netflix
First look images, followed by quotes from Eric Heisserer, Daegan Fryklind, and Leigh Bardugo, as well as a synopsis and more info on Season 2, which I cannot frickin' wait for.
Eric Heisserer and Daegan Fryklind (Co-Showrunners / Executive Producers / Writers) & Leigh Bardugo (Author / Executive Producer) on what fans can expect this season:
HEISSERER: The most wonderful thing about Season Two is that we get to advance the story of these characters that we'd left in precarious positions at the end of Season One. There's a lot of potential for them this season. They have to face the consequences for their actions, and then they get to meet new people along the way. The Grishaverse also expands in this season, both in mythology and in characters. In doing so, we expand the world, we go to new locations, we visit Novyi Zem and Shu Han, and those are all integral to the narrative.
FRYKLIND: We've also really dug into more of the mythology this season in terms of the amplifiers, but also the creator of the amplifiers, Morozova, who he was, what his backstory is, and how he ties into this world. We go out and we go deeper.
BARDUGO: I think the readers now trust our writers the way that I do. This season I was able to step back and put the show more firmly in their hands. I think when we approached Season One, a lot of people were like, "It's impossible. It can't be done. Why would you bring SHADOW AND BONE and SIX OF CROWS together?" And I think now, we have that trust. And I think it's going to be very, very exciting for them to see the way that trust pays off in Season Two. Every part of the Grishaverse is coming into play. We are going to get to see some incredible new characters. We're going to see characters interacting with each other, questing with each other, fighting and laughing with each other, who we never got to see together in the books. And I think that's a unique thing about this show. Readers are not only going to be surprised by the way that these storylines crash into each other, they're never going to know where the next move is coming from—and that actually was a pleasure for me because I got to be surprised by my own stories.
ABOUT THE SERIES
Co-Showrunners / Executive Producers / Writers: Eric Heisserer (Chronology) and Daegan Fryklind
Author and Executive Producer: Leigh Bardugo
Executive Producers: Shawn Levy, Josh Barry, Dan Levine, and Dan Cohen for 21 Laps Entertainment, Pouya Shahbazian (Loom Studios) and Shelley Meals
Directors: Bola Ogun (Episodes 1 & 2), Laura Belsey (Episodes 3 & 4), Karen Gaviola (Episodes 5 & 6) and Mairzee Almas (Episodes 7 & 8)
Season 2 Format: 8 x 1 Hour Episodes
Cast: Jessie Mei Li (Alina Starkov), Archie Renaux (Malyen Oretsev), Freddy Carter (Kaz Brekker), Amita Suman (Inej Ghafa), Kit Young (Jesper Fahey), Danielle Galligan (Nina Zenik), Daisy Head (Genya Safin), Calahan Skogman (Matthias Helvar), Lewis Tan (Tolya Yul-Bataar), Anna Leong Brophy (Tamar Kir-Bataar), Jack Wolfe (Wylan Hendriks), Patrick Gibson (Nikolai Lantsov) and Ben Barnes (General Kirigan)
Synopsis: Alina Starkov is on the run. A beacon of hope to some and a suspected traitor to others, she's determined to bring down the Shadow Fold and save Ravka from ruin. But General Kirigan has returned to finish what he started. Backed by a terrifying new army of seemingly indestructible shadow monsters and fearsome new Grisha recruits, Kirigan is more dangerous than ever. To stand a fighting chance against him, Alina and Mal rally their own powerful new allies and begin a continent-spanning journey to find two mythical creatures that will amplify her powers. Back in Ketterdam, the Crows must forge new alliances as they contend with old rivals and even older grudges that threaten not only their place in the Barrel, but their very lives. When a chance at a deadly heist comes their way, the Crows will once again find themselves on a collision course with the legendary Sun Summoner. Based on Leigh Bardugo's worldwide bestselling Grishaverse novels, SHADOW AND BONE returns for a second season of new friendships, new romance, bigger battles, epic adventures — and a shocking family secret that could shatter everything.
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