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Whooooof ok just gotten to the Santa Barbara part of the game with Abby, but I wanted to post some of my thoughts while playing through Abby’s half of the game:

Abby’s little scared animation that plays when you look at a big gap/drop is rlly sweet honestly and it’s a really fun little part of her character

Bluhhh yeah not really a fan of Owen. I’m starting to like Abby more as time goes on (definitely think Mel and Abby are my favourites of this second half so far but even then idk I’m not really enjoying this as much as the first half but Laura Bailey’s great as ever) - this ended up changing for me and now I only really liked Yara, Lev and Abby purely for their relationship as a trio

Owen is such an asshole what the hell, Abby’s literally terrified of heights and he just keeps making fun of her for it

Honestly just kind of going through the Owen x Abby scenes for Abby’s reactions and stuff - all the scenes of her when she’s younger are sweet I guess but bluhhh I’m really not a fan of Owen, although that little aquarium scene was really pretty to look at

Also?? Abby’s kiss with Owen was really weird?? Was that just me??

Ok I’m warning up to Owen a little more and the aquarium scene was really cute but bluhh idk he’s still cheating on Mel and he can be a major dick

YARA AND LEV AHSJSJDJDKD FINALLY AAAA I LOVE THESE TWO

Lev: “what’s a pun?” Dhhdjdjdjdjd my s o n

Yara being a sweet protective big sister to Lev is so damn good and relatable

Hhhhh yeahhh idk I really could have done without that sex scene - like??? You’re seriously telling me they can show those two fully getting at it but the most we see of Ellie and Dina is them heavily kissing?? Really??

Yara and Lev are so dang sweet - I can’t believe Abby only just met them and she’s already adopted them Dhdjd she’s literally just:

Lev and Abby have some really sweet little bits of dialogue with each other

I repeat: Lev is an absolute angel and I must protect him at all costs

Lev comforting Abby about her fear of heights and making sure she’s ok - the way he talked about thinking of fear making you stronger to calm Abby down was actually really sweet

Lev swears for the first time and I couldn’t be prouder of him

Lev and Abby looking out for each other was really sweet

The part with Abby looking for the gas mask for Lev was utterly terrifying holy shit dhdjd I HATE and love the stalkers that are built into the wall because the idea is dope as hell BUT IT’S REALLY SCARY TO GO THROUGH

Lev and Abby’s relationship seems to be paralleling Joel and Ellie’s a lot

I won’t lie, the longer I’ve been playing Abby’s stuff the more I’ve been having fun with it - I definitely really miss Ellie and Dina but dhdjd idk I’m having fun with these two for now

I won’t lie, I liked the flashbacks of Abby when she was younger but I really wasn’t a fan of the Abby rouge at first - honestly tried to just skip through it as fast as I could, but after meeting Yara and Lev I’ve been trying to spend more time with the levels and I’m really enjoying it

Definitely prefer the first half of the game to the second but I’m gradually warming up to the second half as we go along - it genuinely feels like these are two games in one sometimes

That part with Lev and Abby in the elevator was so damn sweet Dhdjdjd I love these two so much f u c k

The whole bridge scene with Lev and Abby was so damn good Dhdjdjd

Lev is the biggest sweetheart too Dhdjdjd I love how supportive he is with helping Abby with her fear of heights

Abby: “Lev come here, I wanna hug you” DJDJJDJD GUYS YOU’RE KILLING ME HERE

Lev trying to distract Abby while she was climbing the bridge was so damn sweet, I cannot stress how much I love these two

“cold” DHDJDJDJ LEV

Hoooooly fuck yeah no that bridge would be literally terrifying in real life, I’m right there with Abby on that one fuuuuck

I won’t lie, I do like Abby because of the part with her and Lev but I still totally don’t get how she feels as if Ellie’s revenge quest came out of nowhere - she had to watch her father figure be brutally tortured and murdered before her eyes when Abby’s dad was only shot

I really hope Lev and Abby actually hug after they get off the bridge dhdjdj (why the heck didn’t they at any point?? Like??? Come onnnnnnn - I was hoping they’d hug at multiple points, especially when they escaped on the boat but uhhh nope I guess???)

Oh hell no, we have to leave Lev behind?!?!?!

Lev’s so teeny I love him

And like??? Abby joking around with him is so dang cute

Can I just say - FUCK THE TALL BUILDING AND GROUND ZERO DHDHDJ THAT SHIT ALMOST GAVE ME FIFTY HEART ATTACKS BUT DHDJDJD THE RAT KING WAS SO COOL AAAABSNSJSJ

I’m so damn happy they used the combined infected idea and they used it in the coolest bloody way possible for the rat king boss - that part where a bit of it broke away and scuttled around was HORRIFYING (yet also kinda awesome)

Lev loves sharks but hates the ocean - can honestly relate little man lol

Aaaa I’m so glad Yara’s ok, I honestly love this little trio

Still not 100% with Owen but I am neutral with him now rather than downright hating him and Mel’s just made me really ticked off bluhhh I really don’t like Abby’s friends

That little scene with Abby and Yara playing fetch with Alice was so dang cute but man, they really want to keep reinforcing the dogs dying

Just gotten to the part where Yara and Abby are looking for Lev and,,,fuck dude I’m actually really enjoying this again

Honestly struggled with the first part of the second half of the game - I detested Abby, I wanted nothing to do with her and I wanted to just skip straight through her stuff and back to Ellie and Dina, but after I met Yara and Lev I actually started to warm up to them again

I really don’t care for Owen and Abby’s friends - some more than others

Owen I’m neutral on, he has some sweet moments and some seriously fucked up ones

Bluhh I kind of liked Mel at the start too, she was one of the only ones out of Abby’s friends that I actually really liked but bluhh never mind, now I’m just neutral on all of them again

Honestly though the one I’ve come to change most on has been Abby - yeah I’m still not 100% on her and I have a ton of problems with her, but god the stuff with her, Yara and Lev was so damn soft - I still love that bridge sequence and everything

Honestly fell in love with Yara and Lev so damn fast it’s crazy

Love Yara and Lev waaaaay more than any of Abby’s pals, I would 1000% fight an army for these kids (which is ironically what happened with the island lmao)

Hhh I will way though, I wish there were more trans characters that got to just be trans without their whole character/storyline being about them getting shit for being trans, or for them having to suffer in some way - like it would be nice to just see them as characters first and then them being trans - same as when you’ve got a gay character. There needs to be more to them than just “oh that’s the gay one and that’s the trans one and so on”.

Yeahhhhhh ok hhh I’m not really a fan of what they’re doing with Lev’s backstory since they’ve gotten back with the supplies and stuff - everything before that was fucking wild and I had a blast (ESPECIALLY with that infected monstrosity in the basement)

Also? The enemies dead-naming Lev? Yeah fuck them big time, that shit is not ok - although I was more than happy to take every single enemy out in the worst way possible whenever they did that to him

Hhhhhh yeah idk I feel like Lev’s just being used as canon fodder or whatever to move the plot forward - I just don’t feel like he’d go back to find his mom (although Ellie did something similar at Tommy’s place in the first game and they are both around the same age so I can buy it I guess)

Oooooh is the sniper Tommy?!?! Oh fuck yeah, this is gonna be interesting

Fuck honestly seeing both sides of the story like this is cool as hell - even if I’m not as keen on one side as I am with the other, this plot has definitely got me hooked (it might just be the most original thing in the world but I’m still having fun going through it, even if it could definitely do with a little changing)

FUUUCK I KNEW YARA WOULD DIE THIS SUCKS DUDE

“You’re my people” bro I’m straight up crying fhdjjd fuck I love these two so much - although I feel like even though it was really sweet, it didn’t feel fully earned???

Like I get what they were doing there with that and I loved seeing Abby turn on the WLF to look after these two kids, but I feel like it would have worked so much better if in Abby’s route we saw just how fucked up the WLF can be and Abby gradually distances herself more and more from her friends and their actions (I guess we kind of see that with Owen and her but not as well as I was hoping they would) - plus this combined with her feeling guilt over killing Joel would have made her a lot more sympathetic

Seeing a LOT of parallels to Joel and Ellie with Abby and Lev but the personalities are sort of flipped and altered in a way

Fuck, the farm scene and the whole fight with Ellie completely broke me - I was literally sobbing while looking through all the little trinkets and things they had in their house (I love all the little things they had in each room with all of Ellie’s paintings and all of the Hamsas and stuff around the house)

Ellie talking gently to JJ and being really sweet with him on the tractor honestly killed me - she’s being such a sweet mom with him

Dina and Ellie kissing and dancing together with JJ and Ellie kissing Dina’s neck gently and so on,,,god it’s all so soft I never want to leave this place

Plus??? Crooked Still being one of Dina’s favourites? Oh fuck yes - the song they put on is one of my favourites they’ve done too lol (I wonder if Ellie and Dina asked Tommy and Maria if they could keep the record that was played at the dance lol)

Hhhh yeah fuck Seth - I still can’t believe that minor asshole has his own model viewer and stuff. Did we really need to see him being a dick and ruining the mood? It just puts a sour spin on the moment with these two kissing for the first time. This happens enough in real life with the whole “think about the children bs argument from old assholes”, let alone seeing it in a game. I get what they’re trying to do with it but hhhh idk man.

Although Dina holding Ellie back from socking that ass in the face was pretty good

I get why Ellie got mad at him because it seems like even though him and Ellie were distant after she found out the truth, she still cares about him, but she likely just wants some independence and he keeps worming his way into situations with her and I think she just had enough of it (plus she’s a young teen - who doesn’t have the occasional moment like that with your parent?)

Jesus Ellie’s PTSD is hitting her so damn hard, it hurt to see her so trapped in it, but honestly? Fuck Tommy, I’m glad Dina ran out to give him shit for it because he had no damn right to put that on her after everything she’d been through

Ellie is allowed to move on and be happy. Just because he’s stuck in the past doesn’t mean she has to be.

Honestly though I can’t think of a single lesbian that would have walked out like Ellie did - pretty much all of us dream of living on a farm together with our wife/gf lol Dhdjdjd idk why we all want to be farmers and have tons of plants but honestly?? It’s the best dream and I still want to have what they have one day

Hohhh fuck though dude, that whole village attack level was crazy - especially loved the horseback escape with everything on fire, it felt so damn cool to play through (mostly snuck through the level by sneaking through the grass with Yara and Lev while all the chaos happened around me)

Ellie’s little potato song to JJ made me sob so damn hard you have no idea, it literally fucking broke me and I just sat there for a long time until I calmed down

E: “You’re mom’s easy to please”, D: “I’m with you, I have very low standards” BDNDNDJD THESE TWO

Also??? That little carving of E + D in the tree is so damn soft, I love these two

Dina humming take on me was the cutest thing, I love this little family

Honestly though?? I think their little farm house is ever wlw couple’s dream lol - I know it’s definitely mine and my gf’s

It’s terrifying to me how thin Ellie looks though too. I know she’s usually pretty scrawny and gangly but she looks unhealthily thin, especially compared to Dina - it’s killing me to see how much this whole thing is eating at her.

Not sure how much longer is left on the game but fuck dude, I honestly still really wish the game ended on the farm or something because I’m so damn scared to see what happens next

Oh uh is it just me or does Santa Barbara look really,,,,,idk, plain?? Flat?? The foliage and textures look really weird to me for some reason

Hhhh also, I want to talk about Abby again for a second. I still have a hard time fully liking her. I’m sorry but everything with her character besides her parts with Lev and Yara, I couldn’t get into.

The parts with the kids were the only bits where she started to show remorse for her actions and those parts were genuinely my favourite bits of her - the bridge, the descent, and the hospital basement parts of the game were definitely my favourite bits of Abby’s half but hhhh yeah idk everything else just really didn’t sit right with me

I really really tried to like Abby’s friends but I honestly couldn’t get into them. I really wanted to like Owen but he was an ass for what he did when he forced Abby to jump and stuff and face her fear of heights (plus it still really rubs me the wrong way that the game pushes for Abby and Owen to be together when he’s cheating on his pregnant gf).

Manny just seemed like a creepy ass to me - his death did shock me but made me more terrified for Abby and having to fight in the situation (although Manny’s dad was pretty fun).

Mel I liked at first - she was one of the only ones that looked like she wasn’t on board with them killing Joel (although I guess not since she says later on that he deserved even worse so bluhhh ok never mind me liking her lol).

Nora I really wasn’t a fan of at any point, although her death was really damn brutal.

Hhhh honestly with a lot of the poc characters weren’t just brutally killed and stuff. Like, this happened in the first game too and it would be nice to see poc characters actually survive by the end of the game, rather than it mostly just all being the white characters and stuff.

I want to like all these characters but they act as if Joel tortured all these people slowly and painfully - especially with Abby’s dad. He literally shot him and ran when he could have done so much worse. Yeah, her Dad is still dead, but she arguably killed Joel even worse than what was done to her.

Plus, I’m sorry but I seriously don’t get how Abby feels as if Ellie “wasted her chance to live” and acts as if Ellie was being unfair and owes her something. You killed her dad in literally the most brutal slow way possible while you’re dad had a quick and painless death. If she had just shot Joel then yeah, I would have been more inclined to agree with her, but there’s no way in hell Ellie wouldn’t have come back for revenge after what she did and I don’t understand how she couldn’t even consider the possibility of it.

God, that boss fight with Ellie destroyed me. It was so weird having to fight her and see her running around to try and find Abby. It was terrifying but at the same time just devastating seeing her like this - especially whenever you had to attack Ellie and she scrambles away desperately.

She can real sneaky too - she set up so many explosive traps to try and corner me.

Through the whole game we’ve seen just how much this has been killing Ellie and how much this is affecting her. Killing Nora broke her so badly and killing Owen and Mel even more so.

Not once did Ellie purposefully kill these people to get revenge for Joel (unlike Tommy who seemed pretty happy to kill everyone that was in the scene when Joel was attacked).

Ellie only wanted to know where Abby was so she could get justice, but with Owen and Mel she panicked and as soon as she realises what she did, she’s horrified - she can’t breathe, she’s going to be sick and she’s completely in shock.

Honestly I feel almost like when she was asking Owen and Mel where Abby was, she was just going through the motions and she wasn’t all there until they were both dead and she snapped out of it, only to realise what she’d done.

Now compare this to Abby. She’s only ever been filled with rage and she talks happily and openly about killing / torturing scars and stuff. Sure, she has trouble sleeping and stuff but it’s only ever about what happened to her Dad. It’s never about the thousands of people she’s killed or anything.

The only time it changes is after she leaves Yara and Lev. And honestly??? That scene and every scene she had with Yara and Lev were the parts where I actually started to like her.

She actually showed some regret and she seemed to really care about the two of them - especially Lev and I loved to see it.

If the Abby half had just been about those three then I would have enjoyed it a whole hell of a lot more, but every time we had to go back to Abby’s friends I just immediately got uninterested and just let the scene play out, rather than being really sucked into the story.

I loved the first half of the game with Ellie from start to end but when you play as Abby, I didn’t like it anywhere near as much until you meet Yara and Lev and even then it was still a little rocky. If Abby had shown more regret and guilt for her actions - maybe even being horrified of what her friends are doing then yeah, I would have liked her character a lot more than I do now.

With Ellie, you feel that guilt that she carries with her - she doesn’t just kill people and either enjoy it or feel neutral about it, it’s literally eating away at her and breaking her down and you can see that - physically and mentally. If Abby had shown a side to her more like what happened with Ellie, I would have liked her so much more - especially if Joel’s death had been majorly affecting her because sure, she got her revenge but surely seeing Ellie being utterly devastated by what had happened must have brought back memories of when Abby found out her father had been killed.

I don’t understand why the hell they didn’t parallel the scene of Ellie seeing Joel die to Abby seeing her father dead - causing Abby to realise what she’s done and to regret her actions. I feel like this would have been so much more powerful than her just killing Joel and not batting an eyelid - even after looking at Ellie sobbing on the floor.

Idk I just feel like there were so many more things they could have done with Abby’s half and I feel like the way the game is structured doesn’t really help stuff. If you switched between Abby and Ellie throughout the game, or got to know Abby first before we see her killing Joel, I feel like the story might have worked a little better, but with the way it is - having a big chunk as Ellie and the other half a big chunk of Abby, it makes it really hard to want to keep playing.

I went into the game throughout with an open mind and gave Abby a chance when I played as her, but even then at the start I wanted almost nothing to do with her. Sure, I was intrigued by her character but that was about it. Like I said, it wasn’t until Yara and Lev showed up that I actually started to have a lot of fun with her side, but even then parts could be a real slog to get through - although from there on out all of the levels with her were pretty fun and went by a lot quicker than her first levels did.

Idk, going to keep playing because I think we’ve only got a little bit left after this part so we’ll see how it goes. But in terms of how I feel about the game right now??

Everything with Ellie up to the Abby part was a solid 9.99999999/10 and the second half with Abby was a good 7/10 with some really fucking cool levels and scenes - especially with the infected and the island.

Not sure what I’ll rate the end section with Ellie and Abby yet, but I’ll play through it now and post my thoughts afterwards.

Oh, quick little addition too but seeing Abby’s face when she looked at Lev and realised what she was going to do to Dina really got to me - like it seemed as if she actually started to question her actions and no be so ready to kill people at the drop of a hat because she met Yara and Lev

It’s still fucked that she would have happily killed Dina even though she knew she was pregnant (and if anything, her being pregnant seemed to make her want to kill her more) but I’m glad Lev stopped her

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