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heyovivi · 3 months

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Guys. SJM is leaving us clues to who the next book about…

These color combos only mean one thing…

Azris confirmed. I see you SJM ❤️💙

#azriel shadowsinger #eris vanserra #acotar #acotar6 #sjmaas #SJM #a court of thorns and roses #sarah j maas #azris

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starsreminisce · 3 months

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Elucien’s book is next.

I mentioned before that there is something that needed to be established in HOSAB before it can move forward in ACOTAR, and after reading it, I believe it’s the timeline and the mask, which both of them actually point to Elucien.

Of course, I also don't really care whose book comes next but these are just my thoughts as usual. I ship both so I'm winning regardless of who comes first.

Elriel's sank, time to start the grieving process.

December was when Nesta defeated Lanthys, and seven months have passed, which means that it would be around July when Bryce crashed into their world. Two major holidays pass, which are Calanmai and Summer Solstice, events headcanonned to be associated with Elucien.

SJM usually likes having mates be together within three months. Feyre was rescued by Mor in February, and she accepted the mating bond in early May. Nesta and Cassian had their bond snapped in December, and she accepted it in March. So if the next ACOTAR were to start right around Nessian's mating ceremony (probably during the reception, let's be real), then going from March to help with Spring, bring the magic back to Calanmai, to Elain accepting during Summer Solstice does line up with the other two mating bonds.

Tamlin also described Summer Solstice as when fae get to celebrate being fae, which is perfect for Elain, who had been struggling to come to terms with being fae and the implications of Lucien being declared as the Day Court heir on the longest day of the year.

Secondly, the mask. The mask was a huge part of HOSAB and ACOSF. We got more insights from Nesta about how she felt when she wore it, as well as Bryce. Rigelus also told Bryce about the effect it has on one's soul. Helion had a line about the mask, mentioning that he was more affected by it than the others were. Additionally, one of Lucien's few appearances in ACOSF was about its current owner:

Helion shuddered, and Nesta threw the cloth over the Mask. As if the cloth somehow blinded it to their presence. “Perhaps an ancestor of mine once used it, and the warning of its cost is imprinted upon my blood.” ... Lucien’s mechanical eye clicked. His face tightened as Nesta threw a spectacular left hook into the wood beam. It shuddered with the impact. “I wonder if there are some things that should not be awoken,” he murmured. Cassian cut him a glare. “Mind your own business, fireling.” Lucien just watched Nesta attack, his golden skin a little pale.

Yes, Bryce also grabbed Truth-Teller, and its surprising origins about Enalius, and how he was a creation of the Asteri/Daglan, and how he betrayed them, but it wasn't as talked about as the mask was. There had to be an incident from when Nesta wore the mask to save Feyre to her being yelled at for using it, even Azriel yelled at her for. I think this would be a subplot in the next ACOTAR, but it will be a disservice for Gwynriel to explore it since it's more tied into Nesta.

Gwynriel ties are more on time-traveling and other worlds, so it doesn't make sense to me for them to explore what that entails when their world is still struggling to be at peace.

However, there is someone else that Nesta does have to make peace with or rather Elain would have to start reassessing her boundaries with. If Nesta had to work through her feelings towards Feyre and what her love means to her and the attitude bestowed on her, Elain would need to reassess Nesta's overprotectiveness and whether it's healthy for her to do so.

I don't think the mask is going to be huge but rather a device for Elain and Nesta to settle their issues, the same way Feyre's pregnancy was used for Nesta and Feyre. How that comes about is still murky. Remember that Elain was barred from searching the trove items so it can be about its innate darkness as it's created by the Asteri, a vision she cautioned to Nesta that she channeled from Lucien, something Lucien will actually try to protect his mate from. Lucien will play a part in it, but it's Elain who will tackle it.

Currently, they would need to fix Spring, Autumn, and sign the treaty. The treaty can't be signed when the human queens are stirring up trouble. Lucien is intimately connected to all three of those, a big reason why Rhys intervened in Az's BC, and Elain has been alluded to Spring and was huge in the human social scene before she was Made, which could play a part in how she assists Lucien.

It's clear that Rhys prefers to wage one war at a time, and he was not happy with the idea of anotherworldly threat, which makes me feel like the Prythian threats are dealt with thanks to Elain and Lucien, but they would now have to contend with the threat on the continent.

I still think Koschei would be a group effort to defeat, especially with the implications that he is not of this world, has been wanting to get out, the black box is a key to defeating him, but I doubt that it's the thing to kill him.

But I also have a feeling that, with a line from Vassa saying that the Queens have dealt with worse evils than Koschei, so I wonder if it's a switch and bait where it was the Queens all along trying to get assistance to overthrow their fae overlords. It's like what Mor said, why wage a war if they can't win, and well, wars are won by the people with bigger guns.

These are my thoughts. I'm not here to argue or dismiss. It's perfectly acceptable if Gwynriel's book comes next because it follows a progression post-HOSAB. Now that they are aware of otherworldly threats, there's a possibility that they continue dealing with these issues, with Gwyn serving as a support system for Nesta following the events related to the mask. Azriel could also have an opportunity to appreciate his Illyrian identity, considering he has been the one most against it.

Why isn't this an Elriel subplot? Because Elain may not be the one to guide Azriel in accepting who he is, especially when she has only been fae for a couple of years – the same amount of time Lucien has been living among humans. If anyone can help Azriel with self-acceptance, it might be Gwyn, given her mixed heritage, including a background that may be seen as unsavory, considering the treatment of water wraiths.

#elucien #pro elucien #acotar #acotar5 #acotar6

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nikethestatue · 6 months

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I have not included Rhys, Feyre,, Elain, Azriel, Nesta because I don't think they have any chance of dying. Therefore, I concentrated only on characters who have a realistic chance of being killed off.

#ACOTAR #Acotar6

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pollyaunt · 2 years

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i want sjm to write the next ACOTAR in such a way that even the antis would become speechless at the plot & development of elriel.

#pro elriel #acotar thoughts #acotar6 #sjm #elain x azriel #anti gw*nriel #anti el*cien #sarah j maas #a court of thorns and roses

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lidiacervos · 2 years

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Knowing that by the time ACOTAR5 & 6 come out that the show will be in production and people will be using the actor’s faces for fanart and edits is my personal nightmare

#acotar #acotar tv show #acotar5 #acotar6 #real people cannot compare to what our minds and artists have already created

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enamoured-x · 2 years

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Y’all do know once Sarah announces Elain’s book, it’s a given that Azriel is who she ends up with, right?

Sarah said the next books in the series will only revolve around couples and their povs. So we won’t be getting multiple povs, just the two mcs for each book.

Since this is the case, there would be no reason for Sarah to introduce Azriel’s pov/thoughts and not continue them. There would be no reason for her to open up his pov if she was not gonna continue it in the next book. Like what, we’d get his pov briefly and then never get his pov till many years later (if he were to even get a book)? How does that make sense? It doesn’t. If we were getting Elucien, Sarah would have given us Lucien’s pov to get a glimpse and get us prepared for his pov in the next book, yet we got Azriel’s pov. And we know Elain’s book is next. It makes the most sense.

#like it really does #simple logic #why would we get his pov for us to never get his pov till many many years later #bc we know acotar6 will not be out for a very long time bc of cc and acotar5 #so how would that work??#it wouldn’t #if we were getting Lucien with elain we’d see his pov to get us prepared for his pov again #yet we don’t #acotar #elain archeron #acosf #azriel #elriel #sarah j maas #acotar 5 #azriel shadowsinger

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rosenecklaces · 3 months

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Elain book 2025 release I'm calling it

#she already said acotar6 is next lol #elain archeron coming home sooner than later

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lordofhaterism · 2 months

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Discussions about elain and azriels endgames in ACOTAR6 will always be funny cause a lot of it is based on the idea that like. SJM. Is good at writing

#anti acotar #anti sjm

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coeurdedior · 4 months

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Do gwynriels know how illogical they sound when they say that Az and Gwyn are mates and then, say the next book is about them ?

It’s simply impossible because if you think that the bonus chapter shows that Gwyn and Az are mates, their book CAN’T be the next one.

And this is why :

This interview is from a court of frost and starlight special edition.

In this interview SJM said she knows who the next book is about after Nesta and Cassian but for the last novel and the last novella, she’s keeping the door open. So, at this time, she only knew what she wanted to write after Nesta and Cassian.

So, if it was Gwynriel and Elucien who were endgame because they are mates, SJM wouldn’t have said that she leaves the door open for other ideas, because the last novel would be about Lucien and Elain, so she would have known who the last book is about. Especially knowing that Elain is the only one with a book confirmation since 2015. So, of course, if Elain was the last novel with Lucien, SHE WOULD HAVE KNOW.

It’s not even a question about ships, but it’s about Elain’s book being the next one. If you think that Gwynriel are mates, you CAN’T say the next book is about Gwyn and Az. It’s also why I think Gwyn and Azriel are not mates. Because in a interview for acosf, she said that when she was writing ACOWAR, she told to her editor her plans for Nesta, Cassian, Elain, Mor and Azriel. And that’s the reason why we have three more books.

So, she already knew who was Azriel’s LI. She had plans for him. And Gwyn didn’t even exist yet. And that’s why it’s clear to say that Gwyn was only brought to be Nesta’s friend. SJM had finished writing ACOFAS but she still didn't know about Gwyn. She didn’t have Gwyn in her mind when she wrote ACOFAS. There was no book planned for Gwyn, there was no LI for Gwyn and no mating bond for Gwyn. If in her plans, Gwyn and Azriel was supposed to be mates, she couldn't have said that she leaves the door open to other ideas, she would have no choice but to write about them.

Because, once again, if it was Gwynriel (ACOTAR5) and Elucien (ACOTAR6), SHE WOULD HAVE KNOW who the last book is about. But no, at this point, she had no idea who the last novel will be about. The only thing she knows for sure while she was writing ACOFAS is Elain will have a book like a sister.

In conclusion, it makes no sense at all if you think that Gwyn and Azriel are mates and then, say that the next book is about them. You can’t have both. If you think they are mates, then it will be the last novel and not the next one.

Like ship whoever you want but denying the fact that the next book is about Elain is crazy.

Even if I actually know why some people still don’t want to accept that Elain’s book is next. It means that Azriel is Elain’s love interest. So they are the real endgame. Because SJM said that she was excited to write about Azriel’s journey but never said anything about Lucien’s journey.

You can make your own interpretation of the books if you want, but you can't deny what SJM herself says.

And a friendly reminder that SJM didn’t change her plans. She confirmed it during the ACOSF’s tour.

I made this post because sometimes I see people with a lot of confidence say « Gwyn and Az’s book is next and they are mates ». And I’m just shocked because why are you so confident when everything shows that it's not possible ?

(I did a lot of repetition and mistakes in this post so I feel the need to precise that english is not my first language)

#elriel #azriel #elain archeron #acotar #acosf #elain x azriel #gwyneth berdara #lucien vanserra #anti gwynriel #pro elriel #acotar 5 #anti elucien #gwynriel #elucien

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stardustnfreckles · 3 months

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Enough about ship wars or wondering who’s pov we’ll get in ACOTAR6

Bryce is the only one that’s asking the right questions

SPOILER HOFAS

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• How come TT, a literal legendary blade, that belonged to Fionn himself is in Azriel’s possession?

But most importantly

WHAT DOES AZ KNOW THAT WE DON’T? who’s Enalius??

Mr. I never lose at cards cause Lady Gaga wished she had my poker face “let out a small noise of shock” and we don’t talk about it?

I think he figured something out. He connected the dots. I also think it goes back to the time he spent working for Rhysand’s father. We know he wanted to keep Rhys, Cass and Azriel apart because he was scared of how powerful they were together, he sent his own son away but kept Azriel cause he knew how rare and precious his set of skills is. I can’t wait to see how working for him affected azriel but also what he learned in the meantime.

#Hofas #Azriel #acotar 6 #hofas spoilers #truth teller #bryce quinlan #nesta archeron #acotar #house of flame and shadow #acotar theory

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starsreminisce · 7 months

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The common thread of ACOTAR6 is Helion

so, bring on the Day Court vibes and his glorious thighs

and the reveal that Sellyn Drake's novels are actually Helion's autobiographical accounts of his various sexcapades.

#acotar6 #helion spell cleaver #day court #acotar 6

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lilitherie · 10 months

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"What if the Cauldron was wrong?"

This was one of my entries for the @elrielmonth this year 🩷. A hypothetical noncanon dust jacket for ACOTAR6 (spin off 2), which I named as A Court of Gilded Bonds!

This is a retelling of the Sleeping Beauty tale in where Azriel is the one in danger and they are in a forbidden love but she has to get him back 💘🗡️🥀

You have easter eggs in the whole artwork, like Koschei's castle, sleepy Az, connections with the cauldron (bonds), gold ring (not iron), hidden seer eye, fawn ears, etc.

🥀 characters belongs to Sarah J. Maas

🥀 pose ref by Satine Zillah and Rachel Bradley (paid packs)

🥀 art by me. credits if you repost and do not crop the watermark!

Please be kind 🩷, if you support another ship it is okay, but I support them 🥰

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acourtofthought · 17 days

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How would you feel if ACOTAR 5 is gwynriel instead of elucien? In one of SJM interviews she stated that after finishing acotar5 she will be working on the 1st book of a different series. So that means acotar6 will come out 2027.

Disappointed. I think there gets to be a point where an author drags out a particular storyline too long (the Blood and Ash series come to mind) and the writing suffers as a result.

Vassa was taken in ACOMAF, we found out by who in ACOWAR and that she as well as the other girls at the lake have been cursed / kidnapped by Koschei. In ACOFAS we're told her freedom will come to an end and reminded of that in ACOSF.

Spring was destroyed in ACOWAR and in ACOFAS, we're told Tamlin is severely depressed but that they'll still need Spring as an ally. SF shows it's been awhile and Tamlin isn't getting better, that they know they need a strong ally in Springs army.

Elucien's bond snapped in ACOMAF, Elain was turned fae and in ACOWAR she lost her father, stabbed a man, was rejected by Graysen, fought with her sister in SF and was rejected by Az yet we've not once been given her inner thoughts of all she's experienced. We don't even see any of the main characters trying to talk to her about any of those things.

And Lucien, the list is too long to include on all his unresolved plots.

Having Nesta's story told first made sense to me because there was never going to be Elucien progress until Nesta began letting go of her protectiveness over Elain, to accept the idea of Lucien (and technically, Nessian's bond was hinted at before Elucien's bond snapped).

Her healing arc was important to Feyre and Elain's stories too (along with herself of course) however it wasn't very plot heavy. But there was no moving forward for anyone until Nesta's anger wasn't destroying everything in Nesta's path. The series, since book 2, has been as much about the sisters relationship to one another as plot and romance and closing that out before moving into a new era makes sense to me.

But Az having his story before Elain and Lucien doesn't seem to fit especially when a Gwynriel romance would probably need at least 6 - 9 months (meaning that almost another year would go by before we even start getting resolution to the above).

I'm not sure that I see anything in his story that is necessary to lead us into the Koschei storyline.

He wasn't in Feyre's "Let's help one sister before helping the other" speech, he wasn't part of Feyre's "I want them all to be happy" speech in ACOFAS.

To me the Illyrians aren't a bigger concern to their entire world than Vallahan setting their sights on the humans or Beron trying to ally with Koschei or how an entire court is now being neglected by its High Lord.

Dragging out Vassa, Koschei, Lucien's father reveal, the Elucien bond, the girls who were kidnapped, Spring, Elain healing from her trauma while she continues to remain in a court she doesn't truly belong just so Az can have his story which doesn't fit in to any of those things does not make any sense to me and honestly, I think it sends a weird message.

"I think Lucien will never be good enough for her"

"I'll defeat him with little effort"

"I know, I helped rescue Elain after all"

"There is a darkness to the Dread Trove that Elain should not be exposed to"

"She has no interest in him anyway"

Az (no offense) is kind of a dick at times outside of the priestesses.

He makes Mor so uneasy with his behavior that she feels like she needs to lie about what she's doing so he doesn't brood.

He is jealous and bitter towards Lucien and speaks for Elain without ever acknowledging her bravery and strength.

He gives off Tamlin vibes at times and to me that means he needs to be on a time out for a bit. Where he has to really sit and think on why his behaviors were wrong, why he tried to keep Mor and Elain small so he could be the hero, why he had such issues with a guy who is a very decent person.

Giving him a HEA after he treated them like that while Mor still remains unlucky in love, Lucien is struggling, Elain has no found family, it feels like jumping over an important lesson for Az to learn so he can become worthy of Gwyn. Not just in who he is when around her but who he is on his own.

I think Az seeing them happy and actually being happy for them is an important arc for his character.

But, in the end that's just my perception of the situation.

I don't know how SJM thinks, what her plan is, and if Elucien is not next than there's not much I can do but wait!

#elucien #pro elucien #elain archeron #lucien vanserra #acotar 5 #acotar 6

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yazthebookish · 1 year

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In addition to ACOTAR5, ACOTAR6 and ACOTAR novella.... SJM signed 4 new untitled books that could be for ACOTAR, CC, TOG, or a new series.

We're stuck here until we turn to dust.

#acotar #crescent city #throne of glass

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princessofmerchants · 2 months

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My prediction about the next four books SJM will publish

I wanted to get this down somewhere, in part to process my angst about the possibility of what may come last in this next cluster of book releases 😫 but also to record the plot and character threads I am seeing as important heading into the next stretch of books SJM will release.

This includes HOFAS, ACOTAR, and TOG spoilers so it's after the break.

DISCLAIMER: These are just my guesses based on various interviews SJM has given both before and after the HOFAS release — THE ONLY SERIES BOOK THAT'S CONFIRMED IN THIS LIST IS ACOTAR5 BEING NEXT, and with that one, the main characters and plot threads I'll mention have also not yet been confirmed (beyond an avalanche of textual evidence 👀)

So, here are my predictions, circa 1.5 weeks after HOFAS was released:

➡️NEXT: ACOTAR5 - Az/Gwyn + Nesta and the Valkyries (which should also include Mor, ideally in a shared storyline with Emerie), Illyria / Ramiel / the Prison (and maybe a return of the pegasuses to Prythian), Gwydion and Truth Teller (not to mention the other two Made blades Nesta forged in ACOSF - also will Narben make an appearance? 👀), and I also think the first part of the Autumn Court drama may be told in this book - the truth about what happened between Mor and Eris, Beron's ongoing treachery, and Beron may die in this book making Eris High Lord (though some of these items may also be in ACOTAR6 instead - I do think the Mor and Eris story needs to come out in ACOTAR5 though, for Az to make peace with his 500 years of pining for her)

➡️FOLLOWED BY: A Throne of Glass crossover book - Shifter Fae + humans, more history and context about when the ancient Erilea Fae world-jumped to Midgard and served the Asteri, a story that creates threads and connections (of some kind, no idea how, and not sure which ToG characters it would entail) to Lidia (deer shifter with fire magic a la Aelin), Tharion (and the Mer as a people - ToG stans, remind me, were there mer in the ToG series at all? I'm pretty sure Rigelus says they hailed from the same world as the wolves and other Midgard shifters - I've read ToG in full but not as closely as ACOTAR and CC), and Ithan (wolf shifter with ice magic a la Dorian)

➡️THEN I AM THINKING: CC4: House of Many Waters - This would be the continuation of the story threads SJM did not resolve or finish by the end of HOFAS: Lidia's "service" to the Ocean Queen (and more RuhnLidia story with Brann and Ace 😍), Tharion/Sathia with Flynn and their earth magic / Avallen and the pegasuses, Ithan as the new Prime of the Wolves (and something with Perry - why did the antidote fade for her so fast?), Firstlight Zero, widespread distribution of the antidote, Ariadne (where did she go??!), and maybe more portal hopping to Prythian for Bryce, Hunt, Ember, and Randall (OH and maybe Ruhn here too, to get him in the same room as Rhys 👀) to further develop the cross-world friendships we saw forming in HOFAS

➡️WHICH MEANS FOURTH IN SJM'S AIRPLANE TAXI LINE WOULD BE (SOBS): ACOTAR6 - Elain/Lucien, Band of Exiles, Firebird retelling, Koschei, the mortal queens, and the conclusion of the big magical conflict that began with the finding of the Dread Trove in ACOSF, not to mention the Archeron sisters finally acknowledging and healing all of their familial baggage that was born from their collective and generational hardships from their time as humans (so Elain also coming to terms with her Seer powers and being Fae / no longer human - also answering the question: What happened when Elain went into the Cauldron?), I also think some of the Autumn Court drama would play out in this story Helion/Lady Autumn and Lucien's heritage (Day Court heir?), as well as more information about Papa Archeron from the time period of ACOWAR when Lucien traveled with him (LOTS of processing complex and problematic parents in this one!)

Again, these are JUST MY IDEAS - the ToG book guess is based on SJM saying after ACOTAR5 she's excited about the world her next book will be in which she implied was not the CC or ACOTAR world, and which will be emotional for her because of "who may pop up" - if that doesn't scream a return to her to the ToG universe then I don't know what would.

Then the 3rd and 4th predictions follow from that 2nd one being ToG and what I think she may focus on in it to add layers to her crossover - which seems like something she would want to do after how much work she's put into it so far.

I think there's a stronger and deeper fanbase for ACOTAR6 than there will be for CC4, so I think that could impact a decision to write and release CC4 first (since us ACOTAR stans would wait decades for the conclusion of that story and still buy a bazillion copies of it).

WHICH MEANS (SOBS), if these books are released one every 1.5 years on average... It may be quite a few years until we get our Elucien book 😭 ACOMAF came out in 2016. It would be PAST 2026 when ACOTAR6 gets released, over 10 years, until we get to see what actually comes of Elain's and Lucien's mating bond, if the above winds up bring true.

I swear, Eluciens are going to get the trophy for longest wait to see these two in their endgame, bless our patient souls 🏆

(There is always a chance the last two in the list will be in reverse order, with ACOTAR6 followed by CC4, but even if that winds up being the case, it would still be three books from now for ACOTAR6.)

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antipinkkitten · 24 days

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A Court of Blooms and Blades (150056 words) by antipinkkitten Chapters: 50/50 Fandom: A Court of Thorns and Roses Series - Sarah J. Maas, Crescent City Series - Sarah J. Maas, Throne of Glass Series - Sarah J. Maas Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Elain Archeron/Lucien Vanserra, Elain Archeron/Azriel, Feyre Archeron/Rhysand, Nesta Archeron/Cassian, Azriel/Gwyneth Berdara Characters: Elain Archeron, Lucien Vanserra, Azriel (A Court of Thorns and Roses), Rhysand (A Court of Thorns and Roses), Feyre Archeron, Gwyneth Berdara Additional Tags: Slow Burn, Love Triangle, Rejection, Eventual Smut, POV Multiple, Mating Bond, Heartbreak, Break Up, Healing, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Therapy Summary: Taking place around and after the events of A Court of Silver Flames, into HOFAS and forward - Elain is coping with feelings of rejection, her own self-worth, her place in her family and world - all while dealing with those in her vicinity impacting her life and choices. This is a multiple POV fanfic, which is my take on what I think ACOTAR6 will be. This is my first fanfic in nearly 20 years, so let me know your thoughts!

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