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violapeeps-blog 7 months
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Modest Person: I dress modest as a choice! I do it for my own personal reasons or for faith, but it's my choice. It's more than just dressing this way, to me modesty is-
Everyone: Oh mY gOsH! WhO's MaKiNg yOu Do ThAt? I fEel sO bAd fOr YoU!!!!
Modest Person: Oh-It's actually my choice
Everyone: I jUsT fEeL SoOoO bAd? WaNt To bOrrOw My ClOtheS? I wOn'T teLL.
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Influencer: *wears a modest outfit in a pic*
Everyone: Omg! What a cute trend! Long skirts are sooo cute!
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gay-jewish-bucky 9 days
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If certain things fall into place, I'm planning on starting to cover my hair by Passover 馃憖
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modestly-trying 9 days
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Do any of you guys have modest swimwear recommendations (i really only need a top/shirt but im open to any recommendations)
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transrav 1 year
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selfies of all of the scarves i own in varying styles and degrees of coverage! (she/they)
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yidpunk 7 months
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Hi jumblr does anyone have any good recommendations on where to get alt modest clothing? I really wanna start dressing tznius but it's been difficult finding clothes that fit my Vibe
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shadowycoffeebean 9 months
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would fursuits be considered tznuis
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tiredfemininity 8 months
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I'm surprised how little I see detrans people who find comfort in religion.
I didn't detransition because of my faith, but to me, my femininity is something I couldn't find comfort in without my faith. When I had just detransitioned, I saw myself falling back into the teenage desire of oversexualising myself in my femininity.
That's when I discovered how much I love modesty.
I covered my hair, and my femininity became about autonomy and choice.
I put on a long skirt, and my femininity became about being incognito.
Nobody needs to know what my hair and body looks like.
Religious modesty saved me from oversexualising myself for the male gaze as an attempt to seek validation in my newly found role as a woman.
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ask-a-jew 6 months
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hei! this might be the wrong place to ask but i wanted to know if you know anything or have any resources about veiling? i鈥檓 nonbinary (i mostly use he/they pronouns) and i am publicly out, but i think i would feel more comfortable if i was veiling, in any way or form
i know it鈥檚 a bit unusual and i didn鈥檛 want to ask my community because i didn鈥檛 want to be ridiculed
Shanah Tova 馃崕馃嵂
Hi and Shanah Tovah to you as well!
By veiling, I'm gonna assume you mean covering your hair, but to be safe I can go over general Tznuit rules. A very general CW for binary gendered language, cissexism and interphobia/perisexism.
Tznuit/Tznuis is usually used to refer to the rules of modest dress in Judaism, they apply to everyone but how people approach them depends on your community, marital status and comfort level.
Textually what we call gendered mitzvot today has more of a basis in sex as the modern concept of gender wasn't really a clear-cut concept. The sages outlined specific examples of what Jews with Intersex variations would do in the case of gendered mitzvot.
General rules of Tznuit for everyone involve covering the torso including the chest covering the legs at least down past the knee and not wearing super tight form-fitting clothes.
Traditionally only married women need to cover their hair with a scarf (Michpachat or Tichel), some married Jewish women, particularly in Ashkenazi Orthodox circles wear wigs over their natural hair called Sheitels in Yiddish.
Now I realise you're nonbinary, I am as well, but there's very little halacha written with us in mind so you have to find what balance suits you the best and choose from what's available.
Men of any marital status must cover their hair with a kippah or a hat, in some streams of Judaism this only refers to being at shul, in more frum communities it's whenever you are out in public or around the 'opposite' sex (makes things hard for us who don't particularly want to be perceived as either.
Unmarried women and girls under bat mitzvah are not under any obligation to cover their hair in shul or public life. Some women choose to, but it's much more of a modern tradition than people think. The Reform Jewish community in the US explicitly called the tradition sexist in the 1990s, which, eh it depends. Much like any law regarding modesty If you choose it yourself and enjoy the mitzvah that seems much more empowering to me than just getting rid of the option entirely and calling it feminist. It also ignores the fact that choosing to observe gendered mitzvot is often a way trans jews experiment with their gender presentation. I know quite a few Jewish trans women who find taking part in traditionally feminine mitzvot very euphoria inducing and I think in the opposite direction I feel the same about wearing tzitzit or a kippah.
If you'd like to cover your hair with a scarf, hat, wig, kippah etc... Go ahead! If you're a conversion student I'd say wait until you're officially Jewish and talk to your sponsoring rabbi. If you're a Jew since birth go for it but understand that if you're part of a more traditional community people will find it weird if you aren't married, and even if you're nonbinary it carries a history of being a thing a woman does after she's married so you might get some confused questions.
I don't know your history or how you practice and my intent on this blog is to try and keep my advice open enough to all stripes of Judaism. Your presentation and what gendered mitzvot you engage in as a nonbinary Jew is really a matter of comfort and preference.
G'mar Chatimah Tovah!
Resources
Hair coverings for married women (MJL)
Kippot, Hats and Head Coverings (MJL)
Covering of the Head (Virtual Jewish Library)
Why do Jews wear head coverings? (Reform Judaism)
Kippot (Halachapedia - largely covers traditionally male head covering)
I found this head-coverings shop just as an example of different types of coverings I am in no way affiliated with them and don't know if they're any good.
Note: Other Jews especially nonbinary Jews and frum Jews in general feel free to weigh in I'm aware my experiences and my resources in this case skew very Reform/Masorti here and I welcome people with better input on Orthodox practices.
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newestcool 2 years
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Lanvin f/w 1990 couture Creative Director Claude Montana IG
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magnetothemagnificent 2 years
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Do you know of any resources for tzniut outfits for men? All the resources I've found are directed towards women.
Here is an "AskTheRav" response for an Orthodox view on men's Tzniut.
Here's a basic overview of the Halachot and Minhagim, using Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 23:6 and Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 91:1-6
-The top half of the body should be covered at all times (unless swimming in some cases)
-Shorts that or too short or too tight shouldn't be worn, since the legs should be covered and pressure should not be put on the genitals.
-A man shouldn't ride a horse without a saddle
-The head must be covered during prayer
-A belt should be worn during prayer (so that the genitals cannot be seen while looking down, since skirts were looser then).
-Some also prohibit sleeveless shirts
Essentially, very similar to the laws of Tzniut for women.
In a practical, modern sense, this means that as a Tzniut Observant man, I do not wear booty shorts or tank tops or crop tops or too-tight shirts and pants. I usually wear loose jeans or sweatpants, and comfortable t-shirts in the Summer and button-downs and sweaters in the Winter. I also wear a Kippah at all times.
Tzniut also relates to how one carries oneself. Some Tzniut-observant men try not to use excessive profanity, gamble, be drunk in public, engage in a sexually suggestive manner in public, etc.
Hope this helps!
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unbidden-yidden 9 months
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Bit of a shot in the dark, but have any other tichel-wearers tried using these in their scarves:
I was able to make something similar with heavy-duty fusible interfacing, but was curious if anyone else had tried this?
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sheksface 2 years
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jewishfalin 2 months
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Can anyone recommend me styles or somethin to cover hair in in a more masc/androgynous way jewishly
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modestly-trying 8 days
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b-tselem-elohim 2 years
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hot girl pessach
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horse-on-a-porch 2 years
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I don't know how I feel about modesty. Like do I want to dress modestly because I'm tired of men staring at my tits? Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
(Women, trans folks, gender-nonconforming folks, stare all you want)
But like why should I change my behavior when I want other folks' to change theirs? (Yes yes I hear it) from that argument I should carry pepper spray because I don't want men to rape me. Like how is it my responsibility to stop y'all from making me uncomfortable when I literally am just existing??
Modest women, I'm here for it. I am absolutely here for y'all doing whatever makes you feel the best about yourselves.
I was listening to an Orthodox woman talk about modesty as consent and I get that. I understand and value that perspective. She was talking about how she does not consent for people to view her body, and I like that it sets a boundary.
But also I shouldn't have to wear a skirt to the beach for you to know that my body is not something to stare at.
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