#LBGT problems

[queer0fhearts]

Filter, no filter. The lighting in my room is going to kill me if I look at myself enough. 😅 Fortunately, I don't 🥴 but I've lost some weight & feel like being cute. Now I just need a pretty lady to talk to 😭 Oh well. Trying to stay positive! Being a femme who likes femmes is ...difficult.

#lbgtq #lbgt #sapphic #gay problems #femme4femme #does that mean something sexual.... meh #queer

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

God about my Molly transfem headcanon the thought of her and Angel meeting up again and shes gone from like. Not really understanding what gay people are to this giant textbook of LGBTQ+ knowledge that Angel doesn’t know half of is so fucking funny like why did she pull such a hard reverse on him like that. Did she feel challenged.

“Hey I wanted to tell you I’m gay.”

“I can be more LBGT than you.”

“what”

Imagine seeing your sibling in heaven again and they’ve like fully transitioned and they immediately start info-dumping about gay people thats so funny of her I fucking love Molly what is her problem/pos

#raimble #hazbin critical #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critical #angel dust #hazbin angel dust #hazbin angel #angel dust hazbin #anti vivziepop #hazbin molly #molly hazbin #molly dust #molly hazbin hotel #angel dust and molly

[beardedmrbean]

Zoomer Huey, I tend to see people saying why Gen z don’t have sex much.

Holy

Fucking

Shits

These journalists surprisedly have WORSE self awareness than there boomer relatives

Here a hint https://x.com/swannmarcus89/status/1762582001507323991?s=46

And gender dynamics are…nuked in the fields they are surveying. Women and girls are told that all men are predators and misandry is left unchecked

Also, why Hollywood act surprised about the sex abuse?

We all heard about the casting coach, and how suspiciously people from working class backgrounds like Micheal Jackson (yes his dad had his music connections. But essentially mj was a slave and was arguably was the first black child star unless I’m missing someone) and Walt Disney (though not as bad) are painted as monsters while the actual monsters are protected for decades

I mean look at Judy Garland, she was a sweet person and she did help the LBGT in Hollywood and supported the civil rights movement

But her “crazy” behavior makes more sense because she was sexually abused at a extremely young age

And she not the only one, Shirley Temple, the boy who played at the first LA Dennis the Manis

Oh and the Peter Pan actor (a lot of people leave out the part where ALL of Hollywood basically says he can choke and die because he was “too” Disney)

But sorry about the Gen stuff, but the false rape accusations, maybe if you guys didn’t view men (especially white ones) the same way Nazis viewed the Jews while saying all the working class men were Weinstein.

My Gen would have more sex

Entertainment industry has been like that since the beginning of forever, probably less so when women weren't allowed to participate but still a thing I'm sure.

As for Judy Garland it was nice to see people come out swinging in her defense when someone tried to start shit over well

She was not in control of her carer, saying no was not an option for her with this, but dumbasses that can only think in terms of today's standards never think about that.

Jay North (Dennis the Menace) did ok, so did Shirley Temple, plenty of others not so much, more recently we can look at Drew Barrymore and RDJ who both had fairly public meltdowns and problems.

Drew was ruined since her first film was ET and Spielberg takes care of the kids on set, going beyond the legal requirements.

Bobby Driscol was the Peter Pan VA top of his Wiki article.

Robert "Bobby" Cletus Driscoll (March 3, 1937 – c. March 30, 1968) was an American actor who performed on film and television from 1943 to 1960. He starred in some of the Walt Disney Studios' best-known live-action pictures of that period: Song of the South (1946), So Dear to My Heart (1949), and Treasure Island (1950), as well as RKO's The Window (1949). He served as the animation model and provided the voice for the title role in Peter Pan (1953). He received an Academy Juvenile Award for outstanding performances in So Dear to My Heart and The Window.

He just fell into the child actor pit, where he wasn't "cute" anymore couldn't get gigs and couldn't adjust to not being in the spotlight, the way he went and nobody knowing is awful to think about still.

Jackie Coogan, on the other hand was a different story.

His parents sucked and as a result there's a series of laws named after him California's Coogan Law all about protecting the earnings of child actors from their parents. % goes into a trust iirc.

He ended up OK in the end though

The false accusation thing, #me too hurt women because #believe women was taken advantage of to such a degree that even this coming out to light

has still probably not cleared up for the trooper, and men are opting to not mentor women because of not wanting to risk a false accusation, everyone screams about how rare they are, to which I say so what, why should they assume the risk even if it's minor

Former VP Mike Pence came out and said he won't be alone with a woman that's not his wife in order to ensure that there is no possibility of someone making a claim of impropriety.

And he got this response

Why is anyone going to put their neck on the line when something like what he said is going to get this kind of response.

Maybe instead of crying about how rare false accusations are they should focus on shaming the people making them and coming up with solutions to keep them from happening.

You know instead of blaming the victims of the false accusations.

All this and so much more going on that isn't in this ask goes to the I don't blame people for not having as much sex, it's actually kinda nice too, fewer std's this way.

I went on a couple tangents, hope that's ok

#zoomer huey anon

[amphibiahawks321]

Now that you bring it up, it's kind of dumb when some people will freak out when writers of a fanfic will make a canon lesbian/gay character bisexual for thier story, but are those very same people who are causing a scene are very much ok with saying a straight character is LBGT just because. Guys, it's fanfiction. If your allowed to change a characters sexual preference for a story, then the writer your bothering is allowed to do the same. It's not going to effect the canon material, so stop acting like it will. Sorry for the sudden mini rant. I have bad experiences with those type of people.

No no no it's okay! you said what's on your mind and I'm proud of you for saying it! And I agree with you, I'm kinda having the same problem with all of these genshin and hsr fans giving me backlash for example some of these anons i got :

No she's not

No they're not

Like these people seriously say that these characters are lesbian like they're the creator of the game, they keep acting like those sexuality they gave the character automatically are legitimately canon they keep acting like these are actual canon material

#male reader

[olderthannetfic]

Book recommendation anon here

Yeah you've hit the nail on the head. But also made me question if I know what I want looool. As things stand, the books I read of whatever genre are overwhelmingly straight and it makes me a little sad. I'm not looking for tropey things and yeah, when I search for lbgt fiction that's not what I want either. I guess i just want to find the books that are about gay relationships in the way that gen books are about straight relationships. I don't even need it to be a b plot! The older I get the more it feels that anything I buy in a highstreet bookshop is set in an au in which lbgt people do not exist. Does that make sense?

I know I can go to lbgt booksellers but I don't know how to avoid books that are centred around being gay. I guess, I feel like the real world has moved past 'gay' being a sticking point and I live my day to day life crossing paths with lbgt people just living their lives and then everything I read that's not fic is just lacking that. I know that is largely because of how new it is for lbgt life to be like this. Published fiction is 99% straight. But I guess I wish there was somewhere I could go to speak to other readers who happen to be lbgt but are readers first and for them to go 'oh I really liked this character, he was just like me or my friend or my partner'. I guess I just want background gays? Or main characters who happen to be gay but that's not the story.

Your books look fun actually! I think I'll check them out.

I'm a complete genre whore which is part of the problem lol. I'm not looking for 'gay scifi' or 'gay romance' I just want some of the books I read to represent the world as I see it. I love mystery books, thrillers, adventure stories, I'll read any kind of fantasy (not a great fan of really long series cause I either lose time and read 7 books in a few weeks or I lose interest half way), I'll read historical works. Ones set in mundane real life, ones set in created worlds. I try and avoid stories that are too scary lol as I get really taken in by them, but I do end up reading quite a few of them anyway. I do love a romance tbh but it has to be done well and I've never been able to figure out exactly what I want from them. A lot of men in het romance books are frankly terrifying, and their love interests wouldn't know a red flag if it hit them in the face. I don't like anything that's too forgiving of its characters i guess? I want them to feel real and part of that is them having the humanity to make mistakes but if I feel like the author doesn't Know they've written a Bad Person tm I get weirded out lol. Nothing better than a misguided character that the author has fully intended to be misguided. I don't need them therapised. I do like an acknowledgement from the author that people aren't good or bad and I like the characters I read to show that. I love a sympathetic bad person. And... this is telling you nothing about what I like to read lol.

I guess the main thing is that I'll read anything as long as it grips me. 'Well written' is very subjective isn't it. I want to be caught up in it, I don't want to be thrown out of the story by dialogue I can't follow or an arc which even the author doesn't seem to be sure of. I don't actually mind overly flowery writing, I love learning new words lol. But really long sentences annoy me (very hypocritical I know. My formal writing is about as convoluted as this). I'm pretty forgiving of most things if I like what I'm reading tbh. I'm not a past tense purist and I'll put up with a inconsistent character if I can see they are supposed to be like that.

I read the seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo recent-ish ly and I liked the f/f relationship in that. I've enjoyed Sarah waters books which are historical lesbian romance, so I'll def go for 'lbgt fiction' I just need other stuff going on. I need an actual story, not just a coffee shop au plunged in to a original story. Honestly if you go for space opera at all, you should read a matter of oaths, it was fab. I was guessing right till the end, did not expect it at all. The only thing I'd change about it is I'd love more tbh. A sequel would be fab. I love things with twists, so I'll read just about any kind of mystery. Anything where the narrative is untangling a story that already happened is fun. I enjoy gillian flynn, David Mitchell, honestly I'll pretty much read anything. I get a lot of my books second hand or from my libraries ebook service (this is pretty limited) so I read a lot of the award winners a few years late, where everyone bought it and now I can get it cheap. That said I've never had any interest in fifty shades or any popular ya books in the years since I've been a young adult lol. I mainly want to read about people around my age. 30s or so if it's more of a mundane life story. If the story takes you outside of every day life then I care less about ages. I've read some great stories with older protagonists.

Hmmmm I guess I don't know enough about what I'm looking for for ppl to recommend actual books which is fair enough as I'm massively picky and that doesn't work with ppl I know Irl either but like... where are you guys going for book reviews??? I'm gonna check out what ppl have mentioned in the notes of that post but yeah i think i need some go to places for reviews. Maybe that's where I should be starting.

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It's definitely a problem. I'm not big on gay lit myself for similar reasons.

As far as I know, mystery has a longer history of including more queerness, though of course, the farther back you go, the more of it is tragedy.

where are you guys going for book reviews???

Frankly, nowhere.

All sources of queer book reviews I've found have been completely useless to me. Only lists of what exists have been useful, not lists that try to tell me what's "good".

I'll google "gay werewolf FBI" and then judge for myself what's garbage and what's at least up to the level of bad fic I'd read anyway. I've found plenty I've liked well enough to read. I haven't found so much I'd unequivocally rec, especially if someone is looking for high quality prose.

And horror of horrors, a lot of authors I once liked seem to have reacted to pandemic stress by taking all of the conflict out of their books.

[theconstitutionisgayculture]

Oh yeah black history month (aka my community victim complex on steroids month) at least some people acknowledge the accomplishments and inventions black Americans did.

June feel like we need to give LBGT too much “validation” also I’m the same guy about the orcs. The black Aragon thing got me and been my question.

Why don’t current fantasy writers make kingdoms inspired by African kingdoms and say they created trade routes with predominantly European inspired kingdoms?

Like it’s not difficult, why I’m getting blackwash characters or black elves in the rings of power did.

These writers are in their lates 20’s and older, in the age of internet where you can easily research these real life kingdoms. Is it because they aren’t interested in these kingdoms and why I get sloppy seconds?

I thought shit could get more diverse for fantasy, but nope everything needs to have LA diversity with in Britain country inspired setting

Why don’t current fantasy writers make kingdoms inspired by African kingdoms and say they created trade routes with predominantly European inspired kingdoms?

Some do. The problem isn't that nobody is writing fantasy based off of African history or culture, the problem is that none of those works are being adapted. Because the goal is literally just to show off a prominent black face, they don't care about anything other than that. They certainly don't care about trying to promote an entirely new black/African fantasy world and potentially launch a brand new, profitable series. It's much easier to take something that's already a proven moneymaker and then blackwash some of the characters. It's cynical and lazy and it shows what these supposed "allies" think not only of the source material they're vandalizing, but the people they're pandering to. They're saying those people aren't worth the time or effort to give them something of quality that can truly be their own. That they're just a box to check off on a list.

#disclaimer: i haven't read any of those books so i can't speak for the quality #but that's just one list that came up when i searched 'african fantasy books' #so if that's something that interests you i can't make recommendations #but they are out there for you to discover

[shaftking]

My city has been having frequent and well attended Free Palestinine marches/rallies and whatever, freedom of speech blah blah blah. But, the marches pass by my work and every time I see them there are people I know FOR A FACT we're large presences at the Anti LBGT protest/rallies that are picking up in the city too. And like, it's such a weird thing to think about, especially with all the """Queers for Palestine""" signs everywhere. They don't care about you - many of them actively hate you. I just don't understand. I don't understand what I'm meant to feel, what I'm meant to do. I'm lost.

It has a lot to do with black and white thinking, imo. Israel = bad, therefore Palestine = good. Queer = good, therefore cishet = bad. They have all these strict dichotomies but they don’t actually investigate them, they just want to be on the right team, the “right side of history.” Nevermind the contradictions that you end up with by taking on this mindset. You can’t argue that LGBT rights are important and necessary human rights while also siding with organizations and groups that explicitly oppose LGBT people’s right to live.

We talk a lot about the progressive stack or the oppression pyramid, and that concept itself is highly flawed and has inherent problems, but when it comes to the glaring contradiction of things like “queers for palestine” it exists because they’re trying to put both LGBT and Muslims at the top of the stack.

#ask #not the whole picture obviously but a big part I think

[harmonyverendez]

Do Something | 13 Reasons Why ( Eleanour Baker x Isaiah Patterson )

Fandom: 13 Reasons Why

Warning: Talk/Mention of Crime, Killing and other things.

Tags: LBGT+, Psychopath!MaleCharacter, Glaring, Mention Of Violence, Drama, Etc. Strong Language, Swearing.

Pairings: Eleanour Baker x Courtney Crimsen ( PAST ) Eleanour x Isaiah Patterson ( CURRENT )

Take place in season 1 Episode 5 ( Prom Night )

To say Elena was pissed about how Courtney handled their situation in her bedroom. The girl told Monty how she went a three-way with her and some girl named Laura, and that she let Justin finger her. That angered her, right now she is dancing with her boyfriend, Isaiah.

The male hands were at her waist and her hands were on his neck and they were swaying back and forth. They felt a few glances but didn't pay attention.

It was fun for a little while until the trouble started.

The brunette looked over her shoulders to see Monty looking at her and pointing.

“ Issy they are staring at us. Make them stop” Elena whispered in her boyfriend's ear.

She peaks over his shoulders to see Courtney feeling uncomfortable with the boy.

She sighed and felt bad for the girl, she knew the girl was attracted to females and that she was a lesbian.

She could feel Isaiah glaring over her shoulders, she pulled back to see Monty sizing her man up.

Between you and her, Isaiah would crush Montgomery.

Elena Baker pursed her lip and walked over to the table to get a drink. A few minutes later she felt a presence.

“ Go away, whoever you are ”.

“ It's me” A familiar voice speaks.

Looking up she saw her sister Hannah looking at her with a pained facial expression. Pausing from her drink, she frowned at her sister.

“ What's wrong, Han?”.

“ It's Courtney, she is bothering me with all her problems. Actually, do you want to leave early?”.

Elena nodded, she wasn't sure. Since her boyfriend was left alone as she walked over to the table.

She looked to their dance spot to see him gone. With alarm she looked around and didn't see him anywhere.

She began to walk around looking for him, she received some looks but she didn't care.

“ Issy, where are you?”.

Hannah ended up getting in the car with Sheri, she loved the girl really.

She was more likable compared to Jessica Davis, who is always in the center of something.

Elena finally found her boyfriend in the back near the male locker room.

Isaiah's hands were wrapped around Monty's neck, Monty was large and tall. But Isaiah was bigger, more powerful, and more Intimidating.

Immediately she walked over to grab him from behind, Upon feeling her touch.

Isaiah relaxed just slightly.

“ Do not talk about my girl like that. Keep her name out of your mouth” Isaiah roared.

Bryce was circling around her boyfriend, while Zach was trying to hold back.

Just then Jessica comes in with Justin, the two paused when they saw what was going on.

Immediately the two ran over and tried to break it up. But Isaiah was too strong and would not budge.

“ Easy, Love. It's okay, we'll get him next time okay?”.

It took a few seconds for Isaiah to hear what she was saying.

Finally, the taller male lets go, and shoves the smaller male back.

“ Don't let me catch you outside of school, I'm going to break your jaw, little bitch!”.

Elena latches on to Isaiah's arm, and he wraps his arms around her protectively and pulled her smaller body against him.

“ Come on, let us get out of here”.,

The two then leave the locker room, everyone watched them with wide eyes.

A lesson was learned that day.

#13 reason why #elena baker #hannahbaker #romance #femaleowned #Drama #High school drama #Violence #Suspense #Pyscopath male original character #Mental illness

[the-girl-who-sold-the-wxrld]

this is for 70% of the Lokius shippers (who also are anti-Sylkis most of the time) 😘

stop using the argument of LBGT representation to spit on the show and on Sylki, and to say that Lokius should be canon.

your appreciation for this ship (your unhealthy obsession for some) is not action for the rights of the LGBT community.

and above all, stop obsessing over homosexual relationships. stop over-sexualizing same-sex relationships, especially between two men.

and the first to accuse me of homophobia, as some have done on Wattpad and Pinterest, I make them eat my high school math lessons. I'm like as heterosexual as Steve Rogers is a Nazi, as heterosexual as Tom Hiddleston is arrogant.

I say this precisely because my LGBT ass is tired of seeing us hypersexualized everywhere and seeing people literally obsessed with our romantic relationships.

💚 to all sane Lokius shippers, who don't send hate to anyone, who aren't obsessed with gay relationships, who aren't hypersexualizing these two, and who aren't toxic!

(I'm talking about Lokius but it's valid for all fandoms)

(I have nothing against gay ships. I actually ship a lot of them. I have a problem with people who hypersexualize these ships, only like them because it's "sexy" or "cute", are unhealthily obsessed with these ships and spit on people who ship "rival" straight/bis couples) (60% of the Lokius posts I saw this week were daddy and baby and BDSM stuff, fanfictionsss almost exclusively sexual often unhealthy, or insults towards the Sylki shippers, or posts from people obsessed with the idea of ​​it becoming canon, or posts saying that the series was homophobic for not making Lokius canon, or creepy fanarts, and in short you know what i'm talking about) (i like healthy lokius shippers) (the ones that make normal posts and fanart and don't hurt anyone) (those ones i like you even if i don't ship lokius) (the others you annoy me as much as you terrify me) (looks like you don't ship Lokius that because it makes you horny) (you want to see gay couples just to see gay couples, you don't care about psychological development or anything else)

#pro sylki #lovedaggers #loki series #loki and sylvie #mcu loki #mcu sylvie #marvel #lovie #sylki #sylvie #Mobius #loki show #agent mobius #tom hiddleston #owen wilson #lgbt #sophia di martino #loki #loki x mobius #loki odinson #loki laufeyson #lokius #mcu Mobius #lokius shippers #mobius x loki #antilokius

[greggorylee]

Wait are you okay with asexuals??? I found out that you're against ace inclusionism :(((

Yes, i’m okay with ace/aro people. Yes, i’m against “ace inclusionism”

Honestly, these asks are so exhausting because ive made myself clear for nearly a decade now my stance on whether or not being ace/aro makes you lgbt. I’m going to put all the points ive gathered into one place, so this post can simply be referenced if you’re curious.

Keep in mind these thoughts are in no particular order, but altogether represent the problems with ace/aro inclusionism and the behavior of the inclusionist community over the past years

Asexuality and aromanticism are valid identities

Allow me to get this out of the way. The experience of being aro/ace not being the same experience as an lgbt person does NOT mean that these experiences are invalid. If the label of asexual or aromantic fits you, thats awesome. The ace/aro community as a whole is its own resource, and support and understanding is deserved for people who fall under these ids.

However, that does not mean you are oppressed for being ace/aro, especially not in the same way the lgbt community is oppressed for being gay/lesbian/bi/trans. When considering peoples oriantations and identities, cishets have different experiences than lgbt people, and ace/aro people have different experiences from both. 

The straight ace/aro fallacy

If being gay and ace doesn’t make one any less gay, why would being ace make straight people less straight? Asexuality/aromanticism is about whether or not you feel sexual or romantic attraction to your partner, not WHO you are attracted to generally.

To emphasize, what a cis straight ace/aro person experiences is NOT the same as what an LGBT person experiences. The fact that they are cis and straight does not change with the amount of sex or intimacy they have, just like the amount of sex and intimacy of a gay/bi/lesbian person does not affect whether or not theyre gay, bi or lesbian. LGB orientations are about WHO you are attracted to, not HOW. 

Sexualizing the LGBT community

Treating asexuality or aromanticism as lgbt orientations assumes that every other orientation is sexual by default, which is not only wrong, but dehumanizing. terms like bisexual/homosexual etc do not literally mean Horny Only. these labels were coined back when sex (as in genitalia) was often used for gender, but these terms have evolved in meaning beyond “who you have sex with”. 

asexuality and aromanticism arent orientations, theyre modifier identities. The fact you can be gay and ace but also straight and ace should end the inclusionism argument altogether, but the ace/aro community have developed such a victim fantasy that even suggesting our experiences are different is somehow oppressing them. Which its not.

Even worse is treating microlabels like demisexual as LBGT orientations, because it assumes that not only are the other orientations sexual by default, but they are careless in their intimacy / sleep around / are “easy”. It doesnt matter if ace and demi people arent literally saying these things–by acting like their ace/demi identity makes them LGBT, that by default is saying “i dont have sex / i dont have casual sex and therefore i am different and separate and special from you”. 

Let’s talk about the term “allosexual”. Its insulting and degrading for the ace/aro community to refer to LGBT people as “allos that contribute to our oppression because they Have Sex and dont want us in their club”. seriously think about the implications of creating a term that is supposed to represent an oppressive group, and applying it to LGBT people that have sex. Especially since that cis/straight ace/aro people have been given the understanding that their sex drive or desire for romance is something theyre oppressed for, even oppressed by the “sex havers” that include lgbt people. Which they are not. 

Think about that, and stop using it.

Bullying vs oppression

Oppression requires massive, widespread cultural AND systemic power imbalances that target a group of people for a harmless trait or behavior. For these cultural and systemic powers to be oppressive, they must force the oppressed into changing or hiding. To be oppressed is for religious masses, entire governments, and thousands upon millions of people wanting you dead for something you cant control, for simply existing. To be oppressed is to fear being yourself at the cost of your life. Not a life of constant terror, but living with the reminder that you are always in potential danger and always at a disadvantage that was set up against you on purpose because of who you are.

This is not something that asexuality or aromanticism faces. Do ace/aro people face stigma? Absolutely. Even targeting bullying based on their identity. And to live in the hypersexualized, hyperromantic heterosexual hellscape that is pervasive through most of the world is stressful for anyone who doesn’t fit that mold. That is real, and that struggle and hurt is real. But it is not oppression.

ace/aro people are not being targeted as groomers like lgbt people are. ace/aro people are not the victims of hate crimes and murder because of being ace/aro, like lgbt people. ace/aros do not have specific laws taking their rights as humans away because of being ace/aro, like lgbt people have for our entire existence and still are. To be LGBT is literally deadly because we are hated for who we love, who we are attracted to. To be ace/aro is NOT deadly, not oppressed, because there has not been a campaign to eradicate them from public life for not feeling romantic or sexual attraction

This is not “oppression olympics”. This is what oppression really means and is. Microaggressions are a PART of oppression, a SYMPTOM. Real oppression is defined by generations of systemic abuse. Facism and bigotry hate ANYTHING that is different. ace/aro people inevitably will be stigmatized for their identities by facism, and that is fucked up, and can even be traumatic, but the source of that trauma is bigotry that already exists, not aphobia. 

Your sex life and romantic life are intrinsically linked to your gender and orientation. If you’re a straight ace/aro person, you’re going to be under the pressure to have sex because of sexism/cissexism. If you’re a gay/trans ace/aro person, you’re going to be under the pressure to start having sex in a cis straight relationship because of homophobia/transphobia. Oppressive actions that ace/aro people face are because of oppression that already exists, and happens to overlap with characteristics of their ace/aro identities.

For example, furries are notoriously bullied and harassed. On a surface level, it is because “cringe animal person”, but beneath the hatred is genuine bigotry. Furries are always compared to being gay or trans, mentally ill, or it means youre a sexual predator because of your “deviant” behavior. That’s not furryphobia, that’s facism, specifically ableism and trans/homophobia. Cis straight furries are also subject to ridicule, but that is because of their proximity to the “dangerous deviance” thats lgbt or “insane/autistic” coded. The reason that there have been actual gas and shooting threats at fur conventions is because of the diversity of body and identity that the fandom is known for. Furries are not oppressed for being furries. There simply happens to be a lot of furries that also fall into oppressed communities. The same goes for asexuality and aromanticism.

“But the bigots say they hate LGBTQA+ now! That includes us!” 

The very fact that trans/homophobes are even thinking to complain about ace/aro people is because the ace/aro community has pushed their oppression fantasy into the public eye so hard for literal years, demonizing anyone who pointed out that a cis straight person who doesnt fuck is not “queer”. 

It is quite literally self inflicted bullying. ace/aros are only ever targeted by bigots because of their proximity to the lgbt community, or like mentioned previously, the punishment of any kind of deviancy under facism. Bigots dont understand or care that our experiences are vastly different, they just want victims to target. And the ace/aro community stood in front of the lgbt community for nearly 10 years and screamed “look at us! We’re just as weird as them!”. You think that some reactionaries arent going to take advantage of that?

Blue’s clues including ace/aro and other microidentities does not actually “confirm” theyre lgbt somehow. The very idea that someone would be targeted for not wanting intimacy in the same way someone is targeted for WANTING intimacy, and how they perform their intimacy, is insulting. The idea that being called “weird” or “broken” is in any way comparable to literally fearing walking down the street being yourself, is insulting. The idea that struggling with oversexualized media is in any way comparable to being killed for who you have sex with, is insulting. Remember what i said about microaggressions and how they do not add up to oppression without literal legal and cultural abuse of power?

The redundancy of microlabels

labels such as demi or grey romantic/sexual are even more insulting to pretend like they are lgbt orientations. There is literally no abnormality to being demiromantic or demisexual. The need to develop intimate feelings for someone else is an experience that is MUCH more common than feeling no attraction at all. Despite what the hypersexualized media may tell you, your experience of needing a friendship before romantic attraction is not rare

Its so common, in fact, that demirom/sexual identities are in essence the same thing as going “i need to get to know someone before i can be intimate with them, and that makes me queer.” really? The experience of making friends and falling in love or sexual desire is not exclusive to being LGBT, nor is it something that is even remotely stigmatized in the way LGBT people are, or even ace/aro people. A LOT people are demiromantic and demisexual without knowing what those labels even are. Treating demirom/sexual as lgbt orientations is treating a cishet person that doesnt kiss on the first date as an lgbt person.

And yeah, there are LGBT ace/aro people. But what makes them LGBT is the LGBT part of their identity. Once again, the fact you can be ace/demi and gay OR straight means these identities are not orientations

This redundancy and ignorance applies to most of microidentities, such as pan/omni which were only made under the misunderstanding that bisexuality wasnt already inclusive of nonbinary people or that bisexuality hasnt meant “many or all” for DECADES, but thats an entire other post

Ignoring trauma

Another thing that is harmful about treating asexuality as an lgbt orientation is that not everyone is asexual in the same way. 

What i mean is, there are some people who simply dont feel attraction to others. Thats absolutely cool, deserving of respect and its own unique support. However, some people are ace/aro because of trauma, mental illness symptoms, inexperience, dysphoria/dysmorphia, racism, disability, and internalized hatred and fear. These things are NOT an lgbt orientation, OR an identity, and treating them as such dangerously ignores the possibility of recovery.

Im not saying “ace/aro people are all just traumatized” or whatever because thats literally not true. But a large amount of them are. I was one myself, and im close with several people who also went through this identity because of some form of trauma and/or depressive symptoms and/or dysphoria. For all of us, labeling these symptoms as “ace/aro” kept us from truly examining our problems with intimacy, because we had simply accepted said problems as “being ace/aro”. After self exploration, we discovered we were in fact not ace or aro

AGAIN. Being ace/aro does NOT inherently mean you have problems to work through with your intimate life. My point is that when people see symptoms of things that ARENT inherent to asexuality or aromanticism and so readily misdiagnose them as a sexual or romantic orientation instead of, yknow, literal trauma, it leads people to misunderstand themselves or simply not try to explore their feelings toward intimacy.

And that doesnt even mean that you have to or will automatically change from ace/aro if you examine why you identify that way. Plenty of people are ace/aro because of trauma and know this and their identity helps them in their recovery. But things like dysphoria, internalized homophobia, and trauma symptoms that are genuinely distressing NEED to be addressed beyond the concept of “being ace/aro”. Healing is what’s important, not using your personal distress as a public identity

TMI / no one asked

The thing that’s strange i find about the push for ace/aro inclusionism is the seemingly complete lack of awareness of what you’re actually telling strangers when you say you’re asexual specifically

When you introduce yourself as LGBT, for example, it’s because its an intrinsic part of your identity. Gender and orientation are face level facts appropriate in all situations. Introducing yourself as trans is saying “hey, i’m not cis”. Introducing yourself as LGB is saying “hey, i’m not straight.” as i mentioned before, both of these things can be exclusive to peoples sex lives, and even if they arent, mentioning their identity is not bringing up anything sexual whatsoever. (again. If you hear that someone is lgbt and your first thought is i wonder how much sex they have, maybe youre the problem)

However, when you introduce yourself as asexual, you are specifically bringing your sex life into the conversation. “I dont feel sexual attraction to anyone” is not usually something you’d bring up to a stranger when introducing yourself. Like, idk, no one asked how much you’re not fucking, yknow? Especially not the underage people that you may be around. This oversharing is worse for asexuality since you’re directly mentioning your lack of sex drive. 

By NO means is it anything like sexual harassment or whatever, but seriously please just imagine yourself meeting a stranger and “im not really into sex” is one of the FIRST things you tell them. Is that necessary?

Sexualizing minors

One of the most dangerous results of specifically asexuality being pushed as an lgbt identity is now minors are being open in public about their sex drives. Under no circumstances do strangers online need to know how much sex a child wants or doesnt want to have. I have seen predators that draw CP label themselves as ace, and i can all too well see a scenario where a minor is groomed under the pretense of asexuality, seeing that they share a sexual identity with an adult and trusting them because said adult apparently doesnt want sex either. These predators obviously are NOT a part of the ace/aro community, nor is being ace/aro somehow predatory, but my point is that its become incredibly normal for kids to make their sex drives public knowledge, which can EASILY be taken advantage of

“But being ace is about NOT wanting sex! Isnt that the opposite of sexualizing?”

This argument is still astonishing to me. Not only is asexuality specifically about how much SEXUAL attraction one feels, but ive seen people insist that asexual people can still feel sexual attraction and have sex. This identity is ABOUT sex, whether or not the identifier wants sex or not. It is literally a description of your sex drive.

Which is also why adults making asexual headcanons about minor characters actually IS borderline predatory. No adult should be thinking in depth about whether or not a child feels sexual attraction. Period. There is no reasonable explanation for looking at someone underage and going “i bet that literal 14 year old doesnt want to fuck anybody. And i bet theyre really proud of it too and want to tell everyone else.” is there seriously nothing uncomforatable about adults making headcanons about how much sex a minor has? 

Stealing from other communities

The biggest one to talk about are cishet ace/aros who, by all accounts, do not experience the oppression that lgbt people do. Therefore they do not need our resources. Our community is for our own support. Its not a “fun diversity club” that anyone can join just because theyre a ~little different~ than ~normal cishet people~. This is the biggest example of the acearo community laying claim to experiences and resources that arent theirs. Look me in the eyes and tell me that a straight cis person deserves a spot in the lgbt community because they feel weird for not wanting to have sex. Meanwhile the lgbt community are at the same time hypersexualized and punished for their sexual partners by straight and cis people. What about that to you isnt stealing?

“Aspec” was being used for the autism spectrum well before asexuality was popularized, being autistic myself i had known it as part of our community before 2014. “Allo” sounds suspiciously close to “allistic” which is the term used for people who are not autistic. Also, if the aro flag came first please correct me, but its weird that the agender and aromantic flags both were made in 2014 and the aromantic flag is just the agender flag cut in half

Also, as a rape survivor, i do not even want to touch on the fact some inclusionists have co-opted corrective rape as a part of aphobia, even though corrective rape has specifically and historically been targeted towards trans and LGBT people, lesbians in particular, to turn them cishet. i'll just say it really pisses me off and move on.

Really Evil Gays

One of the ugliest behaviors of specifically the inclusionism movement is to compare and conflate lgbt people and survivors of abuse with our abusers and oppressors. Any lgbt person who does not want cishets pushing themselves in our community and claiming our suffering as their own is “aphobic”, or using “terf rhetoric” (which some of yall really need to learn what that actually is) and are now a bigot. “Exclusionists” are listed right next to trans/homophobes, predators, and racists in DNI lists and banners as if literally being bigoted is in any way comparable to going “the amount of sex you have doesnt make you queer”.

Like, it is genuinely revolting to act like lgbt people explaining the differences between our experiences is not only oppressing you, but is just as bad treatment as us experiencing hate crimes and abuse. Like the “radical exclusionary” sex having gays and transes are gatekeeping you out of the Fun Club. being progressive does not always mean “validating uwu”  people’s compulsion to find ways to feel ostracized for oppressed points, because once again, stigmatization alone not oppression. and the validity of these experiences can be mutually exclusive

I as a marginalized white person suffer under capitalism. however, i’m not about to cry racism when someone reminds me that i have objectively different experiences and advantages under capitalism over people of color, because capitalism is inherently tied to white supremacy. Some of what we go through under capitalism may overlap, but my whiteness is not a factor in my suffering under capitalism like how anyone elses race is. Asexuality and aromanticism suffer under the hypersexual patriarchy, but that does not mean that aphobia is a system of oppression, and certainly not one that lgbt people are somehow perpretrating by literally just not wanting cishets acting like they belong in our community because they dont have a sex drive.

Also, claiming that “your sex life doesnt define your orientation” is “terf rhetoric” is SO insulting to your transfem sisters. Please look up what a terf even means and where that description is applicable, instead of throwing it around at things that are not even about something that affects trans women in particular

The damage of the split attraction model

Now, correct me if im wrong, but i had never seen the split attraction model be popularized before ace/aro identities were pushing for inclusionism. They are also inextricably linked to and encouraged by the aroace community. For anyone who doesnt know, it is the split of romantic and sexual attraction between different orientations. For normal people, that would mean “gay ace” or something. However this normalization of “romantic attraction wholly different than sexual attraction” (which while can be true in the sense of being ace/aro, but is inherently untrue in the fact that WHO youre attracted to cannot simply be split between sex and romance)

This has lead to nonsense such as “bisexual lesbians” or in other words, biromantic homosexual, which does not exist. If you are femme and are attracted to anyone other than femmes, you’re not a lesbian by definition, and so on. The reason people seem to think that your sex life and romantic life can and do cancel each other out is, again, the push for ace inclusionism, and the idea that being asexual somehow makes a person less straight. Remember: a cis straight person who doesnt feel sexual attraction is still cis and straight.

ace/aro: not straight but not gay (a secret third thing)

What about people who are both ace and aro, some argue? I definitely agree that they are not straight and it’s not fair and insulting to label them as such. However, they aren’t any form of LGBT either if they are cis. Being lesbian, gay, and bi are specifically about intimacy and attraction to gender, and being trans intersects with this intrinsically. We connected as a community because of our shared persecution of who and our sexual partners and self presentation outside the gender binary, not who we DONT love or have sex with. Stonewall was not about asexuality or aromanticism. 

No one is being oppressed for not having attraction to anyone at all. Once again, i direct you to the section comparing stigma to oppression, and ask if there are laws making it illegal to not be in a romantic or sexual relationship. If there are people being killed for the sole reason of not having an intimate partner. I will repeat myself: the struggles aroace people go through under an entirely too sexualized and romance obsessed cishet culture are VERY real and absolutely deserve understanding, support, and a community of their own. However to compare said experiences to the active oppression and lets, be real, ongoing genocide of the lgbt community is frankly ignorant at best and actively insulting and degrading at worst.

Accept that your experiences as aroace people are unique, and push for understanding on your own instead of hijacking the lgbt community for validation. If you’re not trans, you do not experience what we do.

Dont try to change my mind

The reason replies and reblogs are turned off is because i have literally been talking about this for 9 years and i have so many better things to do. My stance will not change by being discoursed at online by strangers with a victim complex. I’ll be blocking any discourse asks as well. If you made it here (or didnt) and feel compelled to argue, just block me instead, go take care of yourself and be with friends and reflect on what ive said.

However feel free to screenshot and share or reference back to this post. Obviously i cant stop anybody. But hopefully this will be helpful for anyone left with questions about whether or not im “okay with ace people”. (hint: i am, and just because i dont think being ace makes you lgbt means i’m against ace people existing)

#literally this is the last time im answering an ask about this #just search ace or whatever on my blog #anyone sends an ask like this again ill just reblog this post #000 #<- unique tag so i can find this shit later

[opinated-user]

Ngl fucking confused why LO is so against MH — isn’t she the one who said “don’t limit your LGBT+ characters to humans if your world has humans in it” — the entire franchise is about monsters? And the characters that are LGBT+ aren’t just werewolves or vampires, the reboot has Frankie be enby, what’s her problem?

i don't remember her saying that but her "queer monsters are inherently against LBGT+ people" shtick has been there for a long while. at least i know it was already a thing when she made "slurred speach" video.

having said that, there are human characters on the animated/book universe of MH, although i don't think there are human dolls. monsters are misunderstood and treated as less by the rest of the world according to their narrative. humans who discriminate against the monsters are seen as the villains and humans who see the monster as just people are friends of the main cast.

but they're literal outcasts and LO hates works like that, even if the monster literally fight against against that marginalization and win while being themselves.

#lily orchard

[rururi-chan]

Imagine being friends with a person who calls folks retards when they are real life neurodivergent because they are autistic and has won in the special Olympics before. That’s @grayluforever on twitter.

I mean you can associate with whoever you want but please learn that just because someone has some viewpoints you agree with doesn’t mean they are a good person.

I am black and Candace Owens has some viewpoints I agree with but I will never defend her or be on her side because overall she downs her own race and is just a horrible person. Same difference going on with @gralyforever (Nicole). Nicole is not a good person at all. It’s okay that you love GrayLu I promise you it is. I don’t really have an issue with you just want you to see how horrible of a person @grayluforever truly is really.

She came to one of my posts about NaLu because that all I post about and shitted on them for no reason and when me and moots called her out she called us the r word, stupid and told us f*ck you when we was minding our business until she came along.

I mean you can be online friends with anyone you want but she’s also homophobic so if you are apart of the LGBTQIA+ community then she hates you too. She has said something to my moots about that too. Going as far as to call them gross and say creators only want lbgt brownie points when it’s added to a story.

I really wish you would see that but please explain to me how is one to avoid a person who uses multiple accounts to bother you on? I can block her main account but when she’s using more than one how will be able to block them if I don’t know who it is until she comments on my posts that’s about NaLu.

I mean you are an adult so I’m sure you have some problem solving skills so if you can help me with that issue since I see on another post you just said to avoid her even though others are telling you that she’s bothering us first. She’s not the victim baby. Again nothing against you but I want you to know how horrible she is. That is all!

Have a good day!

Sorry, but can you send me proof?

#ask #anonymus

[beardedmrbean]

Wait Omar have a daughter?

In her 20’s?

Is the college student her stepdaughter because I that Omar was in her late 20’s.

Also yes a daughter of a high profile politician is totally homeless. Omg heard that time Obama eldest try to hide the fact she was the daughter of a former president for her film career…even though she was 25 director who film got into a film festival?

Dear god anyone can smell the nepotism from that age alone. And oh lord how my community fanatical (well many still do) treated the Obamas when they were in office

Wait isn’t IIhan Omar a Somali immigrant? Don’t Somali have a Muslim terrorists issue too? Or am I being racist?

And you guys are supporting the hamas who would have thrown rocks or shoot you for being LBGT

The greatest trick 9/11 did was allow Muslim activists hide their brutal colonialism and act like relatation from other religion groups was because they were racist. Not saying I’m enjoying the dead kids form bombing.

But it weird how I learn about the Ottoman Empire and the janssisaes from 2011 historical fiction game rather than my own education system

She's 41, born in Somalia so can't be president, came in as a refugee in 95, daughter that's in the news is 21, you'd think given her history she'd appreciate life in America more, but instead she acts incredibly entitled.

Also yes a daughter of a high profile politician is totally homeless. Omg heard that time Obama eldest try to hide the fact she was the daughter of a former president for her film career…even though she was 25 director who film got into a film festival?

She lost her campus housing for a few days, she was suspended and that means everything, not that she'll accept responsibility.

Did not know that about Malia, hmmmm

Malia Obama has been labeled a ‘nepo baby’ after presenting her directorial debut

And I imagine people are calling the folks saying that racist,

"Though the 25-year-old filmmaker released the movie under the stage name Malia Ann"

Ya that'll cover it till someone sees a picture.

Emilio Estevez did that starting out, not sure if casting directors recognized him but he mad a run of it before saying ya ok I'm Martin Sheen's kid, Malia would have to do everything blind for that to work odds are her identity leaked very quickly.

Wait isn’t IIhan Omar a Somali immigrant? Don’t Somali have a Muslim terrorists issue too? Or am I being racist?

Went over all but the last bit there, and it's a geographical issue not a race issue so not racist at all, also

Also there's

This section is basically middle east came to Africa, Ethiopia has Eritrea blocking their access to the water ever since it broke away too.

And you guys are supporting the hamas who would have thrown rocks or shoot you for being LBGT

The term "Pinkwashing" was created to express why it's totally different when they support a country or region that would kill them for existing while complaining about the toy section at Target being gendered in the same breath.

More "white man's burden/noble savage" thinking, remember they've also got people in there defending the rape and murder that happened on 10/7, if you see someone saying 'by any means necessary', that means they're ok with gang raping Israeli women and children and any other atrocity you can think of, at least if you want to take them at their word that it really is ANY means.

I didn't say it, they did, and the people that do say it need to convince me they aren't ok with it now. Thankfully nobody I know has gone that route.

The greatest trick 9/11 did was allow Muslim activists hide their brutal colonialism and act like relatation from other religion groups was because they were racist. Not saying I’m enjoying the dead kids form bombing.

They voted as a solid red block for the most part till then, not that I blame them for switching parties then, problem is the portions of the community that are more fundamental than Omar's group is. Might be shocked how many American Muslims hate her because of various reasons most having to do with her not being their kind of Muslim.

But it weird how I learn about the Ottoman Empire and the janssisaes from 2011 historical fiction game rather than my own education system

Ya, I didn't even get that I just started reading one day and managed to plow through dozens and dozens of wiki pages, oddly it all started with the question

"Why did Constantinople get the works" because I knew it was more people's business than the Turks.

TMBG have a official video, but I like the tiny toons one better

#zoomer huey anon

[yourtoradorasextendedwarranty]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So normally I would not laugh at something like this, but people are big mad. Though if you don't want to read the article I'll lay out what's going on. People on Twitter, IE: Twitter freaks. Mostly probably "Antis" and Minors or just can never be happy LGBT activists, are mad about this photo someone made.

Now. The reason I headed this off with laughter is actually two fold.

This game is made by a company in China. THE CHINESE hate the LBGT with a passion. And they are not shy about admitting that. Sure propaganda might say otherwise but that's all they tend to put out is propaganda. (The rest is western bait).

The same people mad about this are the same ones that get mad that there are not more platonic relationships between men and women. But the moment their "Waifu" isn't a lesbian woman and is instead FRIENDS with a woman, it's, "HOW DARE SHE NOT BE A LESBIAN!". Actually just sad.

So yeah. I'm laughing at everyone mad at this art work. Because I'm tired of a culture that makes EVERYTHING gay all the time. "Two guys are friends? OH NO! THEY AREN'T FRIENDS! ACTUALLY THEY ARE GAY CODED!"

Fuck off. I grew up in the 90's on Brotherhood and Sisterhood stuff. I saw movies like the Pokémon Celebii movie where this scene happened:

This isn't gay coded. This is two guys who got along and became great friends. A lot like brothers if you will. However, if this movie came out now, the Twitter Freaks and Antis would be raging about how they are canon gay. And any movie after that could potentially erase that "Image" would have gotten the Pokémon company death threats. Imagine being so unhinged and so up in your own feelings that you send DEATH THREATS to a person because your favorite character ISN'T the sexuality you thought they were.

Which to be frank, is a YOU problem. If you can't like a character, or keep liking a character because of their sexuality, I'm sorry to tell you this but that kind of makes YOU the bigot. Not MOST other people. It's why I wince at shallow "LGBT Inclusion". Because it's done not as a character that was just "Supposed to be that way". It's cheap, shallow and the only thing it does is activate the "Woke" crowd to talk about how inclusive it is to sell more copies because they know most of the "I DEMAND REPRESENTATION" people will literally write article after article about how "Inclusive" it is. And all they have to do is put on GAY KISS into the franchise and you just bust your load.

Honestly it's pathetic if you think about it. And kinda of sad as well. Gay representation was in movies for years. But now all of it feels either forced or shallow. OR BOTH. And most of you need to get your heads out of your asses about this "coded" bullsh*t. Two people can exist and NOT be dating. A girl and REALLY get along with another girl and not be gay for one another. Get your heads out of your asses and stop harassing REAL LIFE PEOPLE because your fictional waifu isn't gay enough in every representation of them.

Besides the fact that given she's a character coming out of China, I can almost promise that she is NOT a lesbian. And frankly speaking? You give a middle finger to everyone living under the tyranny of the CCP when you pretend that a game is being "Representative" when the country as a whole is far from that. I wonder how many LGBT people are in China right now living in fear for THEIR LIVES and having to stay in the closet lest they be jailed, or worse.

Stop being stupid. And cope harder.

#discourse #discussion #gaming

[cavenewstimes]

Ne-Yo doesn't 'understand' parents who let kids make a 'life-changing decision' about their gender identity

“I just personally come from an era where a man was a man and a woman was a woman,” said the singer. Grammy-winning musician Ne-Yo is voicing his thoughts about kids these days. In an interview with Gloria Velez for VladTV, the “So Sick” singer and father of seven questioned whether minors should be allowed to receive gender-affirming care. “I have no problem with LBGT… I have no problem with…

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[theconstitutionisgayculture]

This got me wondering about the complaints about rainbow capitalism, and it got me wondering.

Why the fuck did the LBGT community go to mega corporations for validation?

No seriously, after shit such as the reactions to cartoons have lgbt leads and such. And I’m like why are you guys giving your SOULS to these corporations and products?

Like fuck, I got family problems, but I would never give me desires to validation towards strangers.

I think it's because they've built they entire identities around how other people view them. That's why they're always so "visibly queer". They're like emo kids who want people to be able to determine their entire personality at a glance. And when massive corporations start pandering to them, they feel fulfilled. Even though it's not them as an individual that's being recognized, it's just another faceless consumer group the marketing department is hoping to court.

There's no one more susceptible to marketing than the modern activist.