#I'm not gonna put the fandoms tags this time

[thecruellestmonth]

Do you guys really believe that killing is the singular bad thing that cops do?

Or even that killing is the most frequent bad thing that cops do?

Are you saying that if cops didn't kill, then they'd be the same as Batman? Because then you're suggesting that effectively Batman already is a cop, with the exception that he hasn't killed (just like the majority of U.S. cops, who have never once shot or killed anybody).

I'm a bit worried to see opinions suggesting that only killing is wrong—and that violence, stalking, and humiliation are okay. In real-life, police commit countless acts of those "little" abuses, terrorizing entire communities, before they murder anybody.

Invading people's privacy is wrong. Hurting people to the point of hospitalization is wrong. Forcibly drugging people is wrong. Putting people in cages is wrong. Torture and "enhanced interrogation" are wrong. Ambushing people in their homes and safe places is wrong. Keeping inexhaustible wealth is wrong.

Superhero comics are power fantasies. Not all fantasies need to reflect our ideology in reality. But once you apply your real-life values to fiction, once you decide that fiction showcases exemplary real-life ideology—then your praise for Batman's ideology does become a worrying reflection of your real-life understanding of social issues.

#copaganda #Bruce Wayne critical #GCPD #fandom discourse #Batman copaganda #police brutality cw #Almost sorry to drag serious discussion of copaganda into ridiculous superhero comics but I swear the other guys started it first... #To be clear I'm completely disinterested in condemning or interrogating Bruce over his personal choice not to kill. #But I am so fascinated in how he justifies his own use of violence and privilege!!! So very very fascinated!! #Once again: LESLIE THOMPKINS IS RIGHT. #Actually I'm not gonna tag this post as @nti Bruce W@yne--because really I enjoy canon Bruce a hell of a lot more than his stans do lol. #Sorry but Batman isn't a darling anti-cop revolutionary. If he were then he'd get in line behind Green Arrow and like the Invisibles. #I mean maybe The Audio Adventures version is anti cop but still in a free-market libertarian power fantasy kind of way if you can dig that. #violence mention cw #murder mention cw #fandom drama #This is why Cheer doesn't work because Red Hood realizes 'Oh I don't want kids to lose their parents like I lost mine-- #--therefore I won't murder anymore. It's time to put my faith in the system. 👼👼👼' #Jason sweetie... you lost your father firstly to criminalization and incarceration for property crime. #You lost your mother to poverty and addiction. You are actually not like Batdaddy and your trauma is not a mere echo of his trauma. #Batman discourse

[atlas-of-galaxies]

thoughts on ruikasa? negative? negative neutral? neutral? positive neutral? yaoi?

ah, ruikasa ... [staring out the window forlornly]

honestly. if I could enjoy prsk perfectly in a vacuum with no fandom influence whatsoever, I'd like them a lot more, but I am just so so tired of the rampant misogyny in this fandom; in a cast where girls outnumber the boys 4 to 1, they're constantly overlooked and pushed aside anyway. like, one look at the ao3 tags really says all you need to know:

ruikasa has more than double the amount of fics the most popular wlw ship has. and there's not even the main character excuse like a lot of other fandoms have; everyone gets the same amount of attention in-game.

it's not like this problem is unique to this fandom, but man is it noticeable and especially egregious when the ratio is so off. and it's really not the ship's fault, but unfortunately the oversaturation of it has made me not exactly its biggest fan.

on a canon level tho! I do genuinely enjoy certain moments between them, and I absolutely see their appeal (the end of the pandemonium event especially comes to mind. very good scene for them both). and I adore polysho so it's not like I don't ship them in some capacity lol.

I'm just not wild about them, and it's not like the fandom is hurting for content for them, so I don't feel particularly inclined to do much for them by way of art or discussion, y'know.

#sorry you probably didn't expect me to be getting up on a soapbox for this ask LOL #but if i'm given an opportunity to complain about misogyny in fandoms. i will take it every time #nottt gonna tag this with anything cuz i don't wanna put anything negative in the tag #ask

[lesbianuravity]

breaks down your door

WEISS’ GIVING HER WHOLE HEART TO YANG WITHOUT REALISING IT BUT KNOWING SHE WOULDN’T BREAK IT

‘yang would never lie to us!’ / ‘i know we’re not as close, but i’m here for you, too.’

YANG’S TRUST IN WEISS THAT SHE’S NEVER BROKEN BECAUSE WEISS HAS ALWAYS BEEN BY YANG’S SIDE WHEN SHE NEEDED SOMEONE THE MOST TO THE POINT SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE YANG FOUND AFTER THEY WERE SEPARATED ‘i missed you so much.’  (i missed you, too.)’ (’yang, are you okay?’) ‘it’s okay if you’re not okay.’

#YANG BEING VULNERABLE AROUND WEISS THE WAY SHE'S NEVER BEEN WITH ANYONE ELSE #WEISS BEING THE FIRST ONE YANG TRULY LETS THE WALLS SHE'S PUT UP AROUND HER DOWN BECAUSE WEISS IS PATIENT AND UNDERSTANDS SHE NEEDS TIME #IM GONNA CHEW THROUGH DRYWALL THINKING ABOUT THEIR DYNAMIC AND HOW SOFT THEY ARE FOR EACH OTHER #fandom : rwby #characters : yang xiao long & weiss schnee #ship : freezerburn #ship tag : 🤍💛 #otp: i had you through it all #otp: and i know that when i'm with you i'm at home #[ general tags ] #rwby #yang xiao long #weiss schnee #freezerburn #𓄿.txt

[cloud-somersault]

Soul anon here, stalking your blog

I hard agree with you. I dislike so much of how the fandom treats the LMK characters. I don't understand how the fandom loves the show so much and doesn't seem to be able to grasp the characters at all.

Mk isn't written hardly with respect. He's so often reduced to empty air head adhd silly guy when he does have a lot of serious moments or otherwise when it's shown that he is intuitive, intelligent, and has a lot of good instincts.

Macaque is either constantly character bashed or woobified by the fandom, and so many fucking people in the audience fall for the facade he puts up. Like holy shit it's so bad. He's such an interesting character and a joy to watch and people just...seem like they hate him or love him and there's hardly any room for analysis on his motivations and behavior in a way that makes any sense when given full context.

Wukong is like...so loved by the fandom but ALSO is treated with zero respect somehow? Like they think he can't read? And the whole fandom sometimes feels like he can do no wrong when it's shown that he's still making mistakes but he is learning and growing (still! Even after his journey!) And that's a lot of the point to his character too! He's a silly little guy yes, but he's not a baby that the fandom makes him out to be who never does anything wrong. I don't get how he's so beloved by fandom and yet so many fan depictions are so...bad.

And Mei? Oh my god she has such good characterization in the show and so many good moments and yet I can't think of a comic, character analysis or fic where anyone gets her? She's shown to be strong, compassionate and analytical and yet so many people don't bother to let her be any of those things.

(I could keep going. Red Son. Pigsy. Tang. Etc.)

The fandom is small and there's great fanmade art and fic, but it always feels like so many people will get a couple of characters right and then just. Shit on the rest of the characters they don't like. I think it's partially due to that it's a small fandom and lack of people who can view any media with any level of nuance. All that said, it's why I love your fic so much, it feels like you nailed the monkey boys so well.

ohh yeah. there's a lot of younger people in the fandom (not that that's a bad thing but uh) so they're kind of lacking that critical thinking and life experience. not trying to be mean, but that's. literally how growing up works. and y'know, not being able to see the complexity to characters, thinking things are very black and white, etc. It's very frustrating!

MK will always be a great example of this, because the hints of deeper character he has in the show are just outright ignored for funnies and silly haha's for the fandom to enjoy. And Macaque isn't seen for who he truly is. like MK called him out explicitly in the show, and it's like everyone forgot about that. Like all it took for Macaque to drop his facade was someone looking at him for who he is and understanding him. and saying that...who he is okay.

it's just really sad because. you know it's a writing technique/literary device to put these sprinkles of character in, especially when you're working on a show that runs so short. that means every instance of dialogue matters. it's intentional. if they had more time, they could be more forthcoming with this stuff, but that's why there's a lot of things built into the background, too. they're literally using every trick in the book to tell a story BEHIND the story to make up for the small amount of time they have. and dealing with constraints and mandates. like "there has to be a big bad so we can sell sets with the mechs and weapons each season" and they writers are like "okay let's come up with a seasonal villain and everything. again."

But getting back to it -- yeah, Mei, too, is mischaracterized and it's such a shame. she's SO COOL. I love how out there and bright and funny she is! I love that she's so protective and determined. and she CARES about MK, they are best friends they get into some stupid shit together. i'd love to write their friendship, i wanna do that SO BAD PLEASE.

how the fandom treats wukong is part of what inspired me to write this big long fic in the first place. if they're not grossly misinterpreting something he's said/done, they're diluting him down to his cuteness and sweetness and ignoring everything else. and it SUCKS because I LOVE how the show demonstrates that he's not perfect and still needs to develop. Like he IS NOT a good mentor and is actually terrible LMFAO but he's trying!! he's trying. that's why there's so many sunburst duo moments in my fic because, after season 3, i really just see wukong going "okay, i have to take this seriously. for real this time. I don't like how I've been doing things and I need to do better"

and you know, a lot of the time in fandom, people don't know how to respectfully tackle these subjects? so they just focus on the good and ignore the bad -- much easier to handle the good. but straight up ignoring it isn't the way to go, either. ignoring a character's flaws is ignoring half of the character. take away wukong's flaws and that's not wukong anymore. people don't get that. they see flaws as this purely negative thing when they're essential to making characters be characters.

and there's also this tendency to just. take what one person says and parade it around as fact. that's how we got that "wukong can't read" thing going on. when i first saw that, i was so confused because it went against canon. we've seen him read...in the show...he has a laptop i don't. how did we get here LMFAO

and yeah, it extends to every character. it takes time to get characters right. you really have to like. study them. that's why roleplaying is a good way to like develop those characterization skills, but it only works if you're roleplaying with someone who has a good grasp of the show. or just being able to discern a good interpretation from a bad one. discernment is so pivotal. it's just like how, in film and television, you watch bad shows to learn what NOT to do. same thing here. you look at bad interpretations, you look at good ones. then you decide what's good.

not to say that's not what's happening, because that's how we get variance in interpretations. and you know, some people may not care about characterization and are having fun with their dolls. because that's also what fandom is. and it can be a good thing! but it can also be an aggravating thing.

I actually don't think the fandom is small at all. listen -- i know what a small fandom is. on my main, it's a small fandom, because it's me and 9 other people regularly making content for this pairing. like, every day in LMK land, there are new fics. like there are multiple artists making fanart! not so in where i came from

on main i think i'm one of ... five fic authors making content atm LMFAIJOWLMKA

thank you for saying you enjoy my fic! i'm doing my best, and i mostly wrote it out of spite LMFAO but i'll get into that more during my podcast whatever thingy. but thank you for sending this. it's nice to feel seen, i'm glad you agree! that's why you gotta follow/support people who do make content that suits you and makes sense, because then THEY feel encouraged to continue and do greater things!

#ask #anon #i'm not gonna put this in any tag it doesn't belong there #but these are my feelings about it #not trying to be mean either but i've just been in fandom for a long time #and i know the patterns and behaviors #as soon as i saw MK i was like 'oh no another protagonist the fandom is going to mischaracterize' #and lo and behold #long post #long post cw

[darkfinch]

ik you're not here as much now (understandable) but while i wasn't as active in the leverage fandom as you (mostly reblogging stuff, wrote a couple fics a while back) but. i am also struggling with where to put my deep love for the show (it is? was? one of my favorite shows) with what i've read. is it okay to love something that caused active harm to so many people? and the answer i keep coming back to is, i don't know. i wish i didn't know about any of this, but that wouldn't undo any of the behavior or anything, and besides which, i do know, and i don't know what to do with any of this or how to feel about it and i miss what i thought the show was. we're in this together; you are not the only one struggling in light of learning this. sending love and good thoughts for you <333333

<3<3<3<3 hey, thank you, it’s. a rough and complicated time, what DO we do with all of that love. like the love’s still there it’s still THERE but where do i PUT it. where does it Go. sigh

honestly i think the big Wall i keep hitting re: this is…Redemption? like there’s an alternate universe here where this is a show that ended 10 years ago and was allegedly created in a really toxic, harmful environment, but which was created by a Lot of people who all contributed to creating something that ended up being really wonderful. and in this alternate universe, i can see being able to be like…okay, i’ve never watched this show Legally, i can be Aware of this and Talk about this and just continue to not give money to the creators, and not interact with the cast and crew, and maybe that would be enough

Except that now it’s not like…ah yes we collectively wish hutton a very [redacted], now it’s “these people who were fostering this entire Environment and harming people are all still employed and still work together on new projects, one of which is leverage redemption, which arguably came into being in part as a result of people contributing to fandom and sustaining Interest in this show”, which now duct tapes Fandom Interaction to the ongoing relevance of this media property and the continued employment of the specific people named in that article, and like, hhhhhhhhh that’s my brain making blender sounds thinking about all of it

i also wish i didn’t know, i am also glad that i do know, i also miss what i thought this show was (and not immediately seeing This when seeing these characters) (and not having to, like, stare blankly at a series of google docs like “which will drive me insane faster: trying to finish these for the sake of finishing them or Leaving Them Incomplete”) it’s. yeah. i don’t know. there was a rug it has been pulled etc

very glad (comforted? encouraged? sad?) to know other folks are also struggling with this (i.e. that it is Not just me), i know some people have jumped ship completely, some have gone on haitus, some are like “yeah this isn’t an issue for me” and are continuing as normal, i personally am sitting in the half-collapsed pillow fort i built in a cozy corner of this fandom and being very sad about it. what do we do with the love!!!!! i do not know.

very grim times, sending love & kind thoughts to u also thank you VERY much for your message and i hope things get easier for us <3

#not glad that folks are struggling but glad that im not alone in struggling #just gesturing at my pillow fort like ''but we built this!!! but it was good!!! but we built it!!!!'' and sighing a lot #still on here lurking for Chatting With Pals purposes but i just dont have anything to fucking Say except for occasional tag ramble misery #just really sad. just really really sad #finchtalks #i think part of the reason i'm having trouble Cutting Ties is bc i was so Deeply burrowed into a specific peripheral Niche of the fandom #where it was 93% fanon and 7% canon at Most this was exclusively aus and baseless character background speculation #writing about quinn's grandma and moreau drinking wine poolside and the fictional pets of leverage #and its like. so many people had so many good thoughts and did so much work and put so much Love here #and now it's just. gone? we just have to leave? #i joked a lot about how we were gonna build this house of quinn brick by brick but like. we did and it was good and now it's gone #IT'S A BAD TIME

[correct-bangtannies]

I don't even like men and I'm somehow already a military wife, what goes on

PS. Don't open the tags unless you want a big ass wall of text of me rambling on your screen

#hit #im just honestly so glad that I've become a lot more chill with the whole being an army thing #in the sense that i used to be a lot more attached and hyped over everything #i do still get very hyped and i do still have an attachment to them n their work but y'know just more toned down #(i mean i remember the days of staying up all night to watch award shows knowing damn well they'd always perform last) #(mma 2018 was an emotional rollercoaster like i legit cried a little from the tiredness and being overwhelmed with the performance) #so im glad im a lot more calm about the enlistment news than what i would've been say three years ago before they started to #take longer breaks and eventually announce the hiatus this year #it's like they did it in purpose so that the fandom would grow a bit more used to it n im glad to see that a huge majority are very calm #many are sad ofc but its not being treated as some kind of horrific news #if anything ppl are coping with humor including me lmao #so idk im mostly just happy for them that they're taking their VERY well deserved break before doing their service #i just hope everything goes well and is decently peaceful (as peaceful as enlistment can be at least lol) for them once they're there #now why am i rambling in the tags? bc i need to put my thoughts in order but i don't wanna clog my blog with a long ass wall of text 💀 #I'm at least relieved to know that they already have a set plan of when they're going to go and return + BH is sure af gonna keep putting #out a lot of content that they've filmed over all these years #i mean run bts; documentaries; probably even music and ofc not all of them are gonna go at the exact same time #and ofc stuff related to the HYYH and Chakho #them being absent won't as hard for most hopefully #and hey 2 years aint nothing ive waited far longer for stuff to come out than that we'll be fine! #*cries in silksong and the YOI movie

[enigma-absolute]

Today marks 10 years since I first really stepped into the Eddsworld fandom and went through an event with it.

But it also happened to be first anniversary of its creator's passing. This year marks the 10th.

I figured 13 year old me wouldn't want to feel alone in that moment, so I made this to join her and go through the flow together.

Without Edd and Eddsworld, I don't think I would've had that accessible foundation, can-do mindset and enthusiastic influence, admiration and desire to animate and make stories of my own. I was a year too late when I first entered into the fandom and heard about it, but these past 10 years taught me it's never too late to make an impact and tell your tales - no matter how long they'll take.

Thank you Edd Gould. For everything.

#chris rambles #my creations #i sobbed a lot while making this and dealing with CSP crashing a few times during progress #long post #Edd Gould really did say to a friend that last set of green lines if you hit the readmore #it doesn't feel right to tag the fandom this time #EDIT: okay so i've got myself to cry a little more and put myself together #and boy howdy i understand now what it means when an emotional overload impedes your communication #(is annoyed at spelling+grammar mistakes in-comic and description but no i'm not gonna change it) #my god this fandom had both the best of times and worst of times - moreso fandom troubles than personal but still #fun fact: i got to meet a good bunch of the EWFM crew back in the day through the years and some are still good friends of mine #(this is when things were FINE and NOT WEIRD i'm talking early-mid 2010's here people) #some are moreso acquaintances and most just drifted away (that's fair!) #only one of them i know for a fact either one of us would take a bullet for the other (and if you're curious he was a lead role VA) #(won't say who for privacy but listen. A. if you're reading this: I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND I AM SO GLAD WE ARE FRIENDS) #yeah the friendship goes that deep and he makes me happy to say that I'm his friend #(he's also the only one of all the online friends i've mailed and penpaled to - who has sent stuff back. Nobody else but him.) #i need to chill now my goodness #there's so much ahead of me now bc of what my time in Eddsworld gave and I'm so so grateful <3

[alexa-crowe]

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#actually sometimes i think about the time someone left a tag on a gifset of mine saying they didn't like it #and when i made a post tagging them about it #they had the audacity to get mad that i put it in public #like ?????? the tags were already public. #i didn't send them an ask bc i didn't want them to look at it and then just not respond #i was the victim. i wanted control of the situation #if they'd just been like ''i'm sorry it came off wrong i was just making a joke'' i would've been like ''oh okay :)'' #problem solved. literally so simple #and idk. i really don't think about it at all i just randomly remembered it #and no. i really don't think i was in the wrong. #i didn't make the post to be like ''hey everybody go send hate to this person'' #and the worst of it is that the one little hater that stalks this fandom kept bothering a friend abt it #as if they were gonna go ''yeah i agree anna is a terrible person'' #like anon hater went into the inbox of one of the nicest ppl i've had the pleasure of meeting expecting negativity. wake up?? #but next time someone is an ass in my tags i'm just gonna block and move on with my day #because they're not worth my time #rambling

[petrichorvoices]

we finally caught up on WTNV

#this is the first and only time we've ever been caught up on it. we've been listening since 2019 or so #most of how we caught up starting from 203 was by reading the transcripts and listening to portions of audio #we weren't able to handle doing the full audio episodes #it's. uh. i need some time to think about things. since we've started engaging more in fandom spaces #even if all we're doing is reblogging fanart and all that #i've been having a harder time openly being a fictive. and i always feel strange talking to singlets that are fans of my source #i feel scared that my presence is going to make them uncomfortable to engage in media. that i'm doing something wrong by existing nearby #i don't want to deprive anyone of anything they enjoy. i don't want people to feel awkward talking to me because. well. #i'm blorbo from their podcasts or whatever. i want to be recognized as a person. just a person who happens to also be a fictional character #i feel bad reblogging things from people who are into my source and tagging it as Cecil's tag even if its unrelated to WTNV #because i don't want them to feel like i'm imposing myself and my strangeness on them. and i don't want to give them the same media issues #that we deal with. a lot of our media issues comes from psychosis yes but a part of it is also from being fictives and knowing about them #like i know so fully well that i'm extremely weird and not in the good way. that most people don't and won't believe me about myself #and i don't want to weird them out. i'm terrified TERRIFIED of accidentally letting a WTNV fanartist find out that i'm Cecil and #getting blocked for being some crazy weirdo or whatever. i just. it's a big worry i guess is what there is to say #i want to talk to people and i want to be myself but i think on some level i wish that my self was something else #like. i don't want people to feel like they can't treat fiction as fiction just because i exist #i don't want them to shy away from discussing character's traumas or putting them in weird AUs or whatever #do whatever the hell you want with it my presence shouldn't scare you off from it #i'm kind of repeating myself at this point so i'm gonna stop so. yeah #if you read this full thing we'd appreciate a like on this if that's okay just for paranoia reasons #rambling #Cecil's tag

[dear-kumari]

Looking at some of the post drafts I wrote at the height of my fever and feeling very relieved that I did not finish or publish any, bc the last thing I needed to do when I already felt like shit was take a big ol’ swing at a hornet’s nest

#girl why did you TAG IT #(also didn't finish a more vitriolic but far less interesting 'anyone who thinks this show is as good as AtLA has serious brain worms' post) #anyway I still feel bad but now it's just bc my seasonal bronchitis has been reactivated #Guess who's gonna be coughing up mucus for the rest of the fall. yaaaaay #Kumari comments #Kumari procrastinates irl #ngl this was on my mind bc I spent most of my time in bed watching cartoons‚ TeeDeePee included #I revisited a couple episodes from the first and third seasons and I was reminded how much weight was put on 'destroying the egg' #and Harrow being like 'it's horrific' over Viren's choice was just. weird #at least considering all the stuff he /didn't/ take a moral stance on before that point #You could be like 'well some guy destroying a fertilized egg unprompted is very different from someone making a choice about their own body' #but an actual pro-lifer wouldn't make that distinction! any narrative about an innocent unborn life is useful to them #in fact it's /very/ useful that Zym and his mother are completely separate bc then you have to leave the issue of autonomy at the door #that way the story can focus wholly on the importance and beauty and wonder of the egg #and how only evil people would want to destroy it #and just bc it wasn't intentional doesn't mean it's not there (I'm sure the writers didn't intend to write ethnic cleansing apologia either) #idk if I missed someone pointing this out when the show first aired but it is a subject I'm genuinely interested in now #just … maybe not a subject to bring up with the fandom at large #Kumari abuses the tagging system #(Also I revisited that Twitter post and the number of reactionaries in the replies was. significant #not overwhelming but it was clear that some of them weren't random keyword-seeking trolls and actually did watch the show)

[hershelwidget]

we now have a fully pink athena to add to the ever growing collection

I really. I really like her guys

#just three shades of pink and giving me ten shades of AAAAAAAAAAAA #i refuse to put actual tags here for a while. i don't need the entire msm fandom gently asking me if i'm ok /lh #this is the 4th. 4th time i've #this is the 4th time i've #due to canon attachment the undertow brainrot went straight to athena brainrot #not even jumping to correct island duos we're just taking things and going with them #i wonder whos next. based on my emotions towards the latest ask it's probably gonna be marigold #though to be fair that is WELL DESERVED marigold is underrated as hell #but for now? athena is occupying the entirety of skull and she occasionally taps the walls in a funky little beat #NOW YOU MAY HAVE ACTUAL TAGS #my singing monsters #the ballad of cold island

[artekai]

I'm definitely the slowest HFW player in the world ;-;

If Sylens isn't there the next time I play I'm rage quitting lol

#ramble #idk i had fun last time but i just don't feel like continuing right now i guess... #and idk if it's just the irl stuff ruining my mood or my personal enjoyment of the game itself #tbh i've been mostly been pressuring myself to finish it bc i wanna unblock the tags and interact with the fandom #i wanna make some new friends and stop bothering my current friends with my no context ho//rizon ramblings haha you know? #but idk i'm still embarrassed from that one fic and that one art and maybe one or two unanswered asks #i do like making friends but i don't wanna keep putting myself out there for those slim chances lmfao :') #i'm not gonna sacrifice my self-confidence for that lol #also my social battery probably can't handle more than trying to keep the friends i already have rn. so maybe it's for the best #but then i don't really have a reason to push myself to finish h/f/w... except to figure out where artekai and fross fit i guess... #dammit. i forgot i made fross a f/ar ze//nith. damn. lmfao. guess there's no way around it asfghjfgd #i'm gonna need to finish h/f/w for him lmao. dammit. well hopefully he gives me at least a little motivation

[ablednt]

A little girl just fucking died and half you fuckers are still acting like this is some political discourse and going on about hamas fuck you I've actually had enough

#if you hear abt a child being murdered #and you decide to start reblogging posts abr how oppressed the libs are for standing up to ham@s I hope you fucking kill yourself or learn #to shut the fuck up forever I'm so fr right now #Im so fuckign sick of it all #ask to tag #look. i get it #i don't expect everyone to have the ability to process and respond to what's going on #but if you can't than you need to have the fucking decency to shut the fuck up #was it fun? was it fun using other people's pain for attention? #did you feel real cool making a genocide about you? did you have a good time dragging J3wish culture through the fucking mud unprompted? #did you get some kind of vindication when P@listinians got mad at you for making ongoing murders about your stupid fucking internet #discourse are you getting an A in the echo chamber? #like Im not even arguing with z10nists #kys i dont know how to process all this #also /nbh on this unless my ex mutual who kept putting tr1b!tuary on my dash is still following #if so like. Please shut the fuck up. for the love of god. go back to fandom posting if all you're gonna do is reblog z10nists and then #pretend to support p@l2stine

[kalu-chan]

So. Fictional Romantic vs Platonic relationships.

I was not gonna post bc it had been a while since seeing Discours(TM) on the topic but then another post reminded me of it (like it wasn't a discourse post but it sparked the Memory) and I was about to put a long-ass string of tags and went. nah. I'll just do this.

For The Record this is not a bash against any interpretation. Wish I didn't have to state but this is Tumblr lmao.

Anyway most of the time I do see actual Discours(TM) on the topic has like, the people who want more platonic relationships be annoyed that fandom very very often goes for romance and say they feel unwelcome or at least un-represented in fandom, to which the ones who prefer romance say that no, there's Friendship everywhere, just look at all the buddy cop plots etc., you have enough.

Not to go "both sides" here but - Both are right.

Especially with two men, which is a lot of fandom main ships, there are a ton of stories that feature a Close Male Friendship. Greg House and Wilson from House MD, Riku and Sora from Kingdom Hearts, Dean and Cas from Supernatural, all four guys from Final Fantasy XV, the list goes on. "Two Boys/Men Who Are Best Friends" is a very, very common group of main characters.

In canon.

Because as soon as you leave canon and check out canon, well... At a quick glance at AO3 stats, there's about four to nine times as much ship content than platonic content (3,400 vs 600; 4,000 vs 950; 115,000 vs 12,500; 5800 vs 970 [Only checking Prompto x Noctis because I'm not gonna check all permutations of this and they're the most popular ship]).

Yes, canon is severely lacking in queer ships most of the time, while friendship is often a big focus. And also, fandom is somewhat lacking in platonic stories while ships are often a big focus.

So, yeah, it can be frustrating to join a fandom where you love a canon friendship and just get "Oh the way they're looking at each other here, they're so in love! Oh I bet they kissed after that scene! Oh I'm sure they'll marry after canon!". It is, of course, also frustrating how rarely we get to see any queer kisses on TV (or books etc pp). One side's not getting what they want out of fandom (which is so often hailed as The Great Spot To Be), the other's not getting what they want out of canon.

Both sucks, in different ways. Stop bashing each other's heads in, uplift stories that have canon queer romance and stop being jerks about people who'd like more platonic stuff in fandom.

#yolo i'm putting this in tags #fandom #in only this one tag tho I'm not touching the deescourse tag #Also no I'm not even exclusing myself I also write Romance more often than Friendship I think #Bc for some reaosn Romance feels easier #Like. Idk why but writing a romantic date feels easier for me than writing two friends hanging out #Which is weird because. I have spent much more time hanging out with friends than going on dates #I should write more platonic stuff... #Also the fandoms were just picked by ''Whatever came to mind first'' #No deeper reason #Naruto and Star Trek TOS have the same thing going on as House and Supernatural and FFXV and KH #I'm supposed to be at work so I'm not gonna check more but. I'm willing to bet it'll be similar there too #MLP seems similar too. With F/F instead of M/M but still. #Harder to see for sure tho bc there's fewer fics total

[randomuzerthelozer]

I think we can all agree

"I prefer other ship over" Or "I like the art but don't like the ship"

Comments are annyoing?

But you know what's ANOTHER annyoing thing

When someone posts about ship A but then they procced to put down ship B in the same post

(If this is A ONE TIME THING, in which case it's related to the post, then I can stomach that. Or if it's like comapring the ships/etc)

BUT WHEN THEY ALWAYS PUT SOMETHING ABOUT SHIP B IN A SHIP A POST I GET SO PISSED LIKE:

"Idk about you all but Ship A is better then B"

"Ship A >>>> B"

"Ship B makes me rlly uncfomy"

In the desc or title, Like I didn't come to see ship B slander I CAME TO SEE A SHIP A POST

I get giving it it's OWN POST, I get getting comments like the 2 first examples and putting that in the comments and having to clafiry that you don't like those comments.

BUT OH MY GOF CAN YOU STOP PUTTING DOWN ANOTHER SHIP WHEN IT'S COMEPLETEY UNECSSARY. I get IT you ship A less popular ship.

I get you want to make posts about the fact you feel prefer ship A

I Get the fact you want to make posts Slandering B

BUT DO Y9U UAGE TO TAKE A PREFERCTLY FINE SHIP A POST AND JUST MAKE IT A SHIP B SLANDER POST FOR NOO GOOD REASON

#I'm a vauge multishipper BUT IT'S SO ANNYOING #even when I agree with your take #IF EVERY SINGLE POST YOU NEED TO CLAFIRY YOUR THE “one whose to conteratian” AND THAT “I like the less popular one unlike you all” #MABYE JUST MABYE YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR PRIOTIRES STRAIGHT #Insted of putting other ships down LIFT YOU OWN ONE UP WITHOUT THE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THOSE POSTS #this also gose to popular ship shippers who hate on specfifc rarepairs #AND POPULAR SHIP SHIPPERS WHO FIGHT WITH OTHER POPULAR SHIP SHIPPERS #My man having petty drama with a normal and non provelmatic fictional couple isn't quddenly gonna make me ship your ship #I'm sorry it's just not #randomuzer's random rambles #ship discourse #shipping #ships #Fandom shipping #I get people working throguh their discomforts by ranting about them #But when you Feel the need to mention it in every single podt that isn't about them it just get's so annyoing #And then(50%) when someone brings/defends it their always like “it discomforts me please don't talk about it🥺” #WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO MENTION IT 24/7 IN POSTS ALL THE TIME #YES I know people can live their lives whoever they want yadada #BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT PET PEEVES #look if you do this don't worry your not satan #It just personally annoys me #and that's okay! #Long tags #tag ramble

[thingswhatareawesome]

so i will say that the way tumblr redid the ui to make checking your different blogs (under account) is way, way easier for me now. so i'm actually checking my activity feed pretty consistently, something i didn't used to do.

which means that if someone comments something shitty on a thing they reblog from me, i'm now gonna see it and know to block them.

#the woes of not knowing how stupid tumblr is about sideblogs when i created this back in early 2011 #i didn't know that making my fandom blog a sideblog of my wow screenshot blog was going to be such a mess #like for people seeing it and not my fandom blog when i followed them #or for the longest time only being able to reply as the wow blog and not this one (and i think it still forces asks to be from the wow one) #and well yeah the activity feed on my dash FOR MY FANDOM SIDEBLOG only being the main blog and not the sideblog #which became extra useless when i stopped using that main tumblr blog and it went defunct #so yeah i never ever saw my activity feed for years bc going to find it was such a mess and pain in the ass #like i'd only see it if i set it up in a separate tab #but now at least it's easy to check it's all but one click #so now i look at it and actually see replies/reply answers/ask answers/tags/reblog comments #which means if people are being stupid i'm not gonna put up with it so yeah