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firebirdsdaughter · 2 years

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The more I watch it…

… I definitely think the reason the Nate and Eliot relationship gets overlooked is that it’s very tacit and unspoken. These are two guys who do not discuss feelings, at least not directly, instead they just steadily… Fall into a pattern, they develop a system. The trust and loyalty between them isn’t spelled out in long speeches or discussions; it’s in the way Eliot starts to look to Nate for a cue if he should engage; Eliot allowing Nate to pull him back; it’s Nate never trying to force details of Eliot’s past from him; the way Nate only ever doubts Eliot once and then never again; the way Nate looks at Eliot after being forced to take a drink in the Bottle Job, or any other time; their conversation about the bank robbery in the Bank Shot job; Eliot being willing to kill for Nate; no matter how far on a bent he is, it’s in Nate never asking him to; it’s in Eliot and Sophie worrying about Nate’s destructive behaviour and his drinking; Nate telling Eliot ‘get them to the chopper’ rather than ‘get to the chopper’; it’s every time Eliot speaks out about a play or choice he doesn’t agree w/ and calling Nate out; it’s them sitting in silence in the bar; it’s the way Eliot falls in at Nate’s shoulder, or shifts in front of him in case of threat; it’s Eliot doing things Nate asks even when he complains; it’s Nate honestly responding when Eliot confronts him; it’s the Zanzibar Job; Eliot being mad Nate (and the others) left the baseball game early; Nate trying to protect Eliot from being forced to do the fixed fight; his panic at thinking Eliot’s been shot for a moment; Nate sounding for all the world like a proud dad during the country music ep; the exchange at the end of the cheerleading ep; them both harping on Hardison to tip the messenger; Nate trying to curb Eliot’s flirting; watching sports together; it’s the tiny glances they exchange or they way they sometimes move in sync.

Leverage Inc has no hierarchy, not really, not in the usual sense, but they fill their own roles based on their strengths and personalities. There’s no outright decision, no official acknowledgement, but they don’t need that. Nate and Eliot settle seamlessly into not just the roles of a mastermind and his loyal, trusted, and competent lieutenant and enforcer, but also something reminiscent of a father and an eldest son. They are actually one of the closest bonds in the whole crew (which is comprised of very close bonds, to be fair, but hopefully you get the point), they just do it so naturally and almost in the periphery that it can go unnoticed/understood very easily.

#Leverage #COME TO MY TED TALKS #anyway I love this I love them #Eliot and Nate have something that other mastermind and hitter combos WISH they had #if anyone else saw that post I made about how Eliot effectively lost his father and Nate lost his son…#like I said there Eliot Hardison and Parker are all three the Kids #but I do feel like part of the way Eliot and Nate connect is they both find something that they'd been missing in the relationship #Sam will never grow up play guitar or have a date #watch sports w/ him #Eliot never gets to have his father know the good he's been able to do to worry about him or just spend timee w/ him #yes the ages don't line up but who cares #it's like an estranged family finally bonding in adulthood that's literally the plot of NUMB3RS #and yeah it's very mob/mafia #like they're practically a mafia family #anyway excuse me while I go back and watch the Zanzibar job again bc damn if that's not one of the three hottest things on tv in this show #Literal Crime Family

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tanadrin · 1 year

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gender equity in sports is a weird topic, because, like... you can’t make people care about women’s sports. the thing that makes sport lucrative is that people care about it; and while the lack of interest in women’s sports may be due to gender discrimination, it’s downstream of cultural factors you can’t actually alter. decades of title ix has given the US, at least, a much more equitable landscape for collegiate athletics, but 1) collegiate athletics in the US is a cultural vortex of awfulness and should probably all be abolished, and 2) that doesn’t translate into equal prestige (or, more importantly, equal funding!) for professional women’s athletics.

#competitive professional sport is weird and i don't understand why people care about it #but so long as they do #i do find some of the cultural issues around sport kind of interesting

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spiderfreedom · 7 months

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not gonna effortpost about this today because I gotta get work done but real short

I notice this argument being used all the time: "you can't make a definition of 'woman' that does not exclude some people that we call women. therefore, the only good definition for 'women' that includes all people we call woman is 'people who identify as woman.'"

and the thing is, philosophically, "you can't make a definition of {thing} that does not exclude some examples we also call {thing}" is something that applies to almost every category! it's literally a whole philosophical problem of "what is the definition of a chair?" didn't we have a whole meme about how nobody can even agree on what a sandwich is?

it's not something unique to women, tables, horses, sandwiches, salads, or anything else. it is a problem of language itself.

you can apply the exact same argument to other categories: "how do you define 'blackness' without excluding some people we call 'black'?" if you're american, maybe you will use the one-drop rule, in which case halsey is black and anyone who had a single black ancestor four generations ago. but is that actually how we use the word black? does that capture something meaningful about being black in america? how about being black in the world?

let's go further: "how do you define 'transgender' without excluding some people we call 'transgender'?" within the transgender community, there is no real agreement on what it means to be transgender! beyond a vague sense of "identifying as the gender society assigned to you", but even that can be challenged. if a cis (female) woman takes testosterone, starts hanging around trans women, calling herself a trans woman, is confused for a trans woman by the people that she talks to, experiences oppression on the basis of being perceived as a trans woman... can she be considered a trans woman, despite being female?

ultimately "how do you define things" is a philosophy of language question more than anything else. perfect definitions that encapsulate sets neatly do not exist, because the terms we use are socially contingent. when people came up with the word 'table', they didn't also create a logically rigorous definition for it. they just said 'well, this thing here is a table.' and then people argue about the edge cases. because also, nobody actually agrees on the members of sets of every single word!! just like how we all have different ideas of what is and isn't a sandwich!

that's the other thing, people already disagree about what words refer to. someone who has the 5ARD intersex condition has testes but may be raised and socialized as girl because their parents think their genitals kinda look like a vulva. is this person a 'girl/woman'? people are not sure... which makes sense... because it is an edge case. is a stool a chair? is a hotdog a sandwich? is an open sandwich a sandwich? the further you get from the 'prototype', the more people are going to be disagree.

so the entire question 'what is a woman' is just an exercise in confusing philosophy of language framed as saying something very meaningful about the social category of woman. it is not! it is a problem of language that we cannot define 'woman' or 'chair' or 'salad' or 'horse' or 'gamer' in a rigorous way. it is nothing inherent to women, chairs, salads, horses, or gamers.

(but what about science?) good question, what about science? science tries to operate differently from the way laypeople talk about things. scientists take common words, like 'energy', and give them different, more rigorous definitions in order to try to figure something out about the world. for laypeople, 'energy' is something vague and diffuse. for physicists, 'energy' is the force that causes things to move, and its behavior is described by certain mathematical models.

similarly, laypeople may take 'woman' to mean 'a person with breasts and vulva/vagina', but a biologist may have a more rigorous definition of 'female': 'producing large gametes.' this is useful because it helps us see commonalities between creatures that may look really different, like flowers, bedbugs, asparaguses, cats, and humans - all very different creatures where sex looks different, but still have a distinction between 'producing large gametes' and 'producing small gametes' - there's no intermediate gamete. biologists have a different word for what people/animals look like, and that is 'phenotype.' when a parent looks at a child with 5ARD condition, they see the child has no visible penis and thus 'looks 'looks female.' a biologist would say that the child's sex is male (because they have the reproductive equipment to produce sperm, and none of the reproductive equipment to produce ova) but that their phenotype is ambiguous. sex is a binary variable, but human development is a long process where are a lot can happen, and so sexual phenotypes are not variable.

so already we're pretty far from the lay definition, because laypeople don't have the same idea of what sex is as scientists do, and don't distinguish between someone's sex and their appearance - for them, the sex is the appearance. who is right? it depends on what you want to do. scientists want to discover meaningful things about nature, and their definitions are far more useful than the layperson's for that purpose. which definitions are useful is also socially determined - we may feel sympathy for the child with 5ARD, told they were a girl their whole life, but who learns that they have testes. should we continue to treat this child as a girl/woman, or should we encourage them to view themselves as a boy/man? that is a social, cultural, legal argument, not a scientific one. the biological truth is the same regardless of the social, cultural, legal arguments, but there may be a compelling case to act differently. that's on us as humans to decide!

so yeah I'm just tired of hearing the same damn arguments over and over again. "what is a woman? is someone with CAIS a woman? is someone with 5ARD? what if we take a young non-intersex male and give them female hormones?" like this will never take us to where we want to go because it's a philosophy of language question disguised as a scientific one. the real question is, what are we talking about and which definitions will help us in that? if you believe that female people are exploited on the basis of their female bodily functions, then obviously you want to bring attention to that by using the word 'female'! if you want to focus on feminine socialization, then it may be useful to bring up cases of people who may not technically be female but were still raised as them, like Erika/Erik Schinegger, a male (possibly with 5ARD) who was raised as a girl and believed he was a girl for most of his youth.

trying to make a single catchy response to a question of what is 'x' is never going to satisfy everyone, because it cannot, because language is imperfect and real life is messy. scientists try to cut nature at the joints, but their cuts may not look like laypeople's! (and don't get me started on scientists disagreeing on what is a joint and what is not, metaphorically.)

and at its worst, when chasing an ironclad definition, you get bizarre answers that seem detached from reality, like saying 'people with CAIS condition are genotypically male and have underdeveloped testes, so we should treat them as males'. they may be reproductive males, but they have a female phenotype, and are raised as girls, and are literally unreceptive to testosterone - to treat them as 'men' on the basis of developmental or reproductive sex certainly seems to be missing something very important from the picture! see below: a person with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS):

does it really make sense to say this person is a man due to her having testes, which technically makes her reproductively male? is that capturing reality? or are you trying to force reality to fit into your definition because you're afraid that if you cannot create a perfect definition of 'woman', that we will never be able to talk about biology and female oppression?

tl;dr: questions like 'what is a woman' are designed to be time-wasters because they are not actually answerable because language sucks. argue for your operative definition, your context, and move on. and don't be afraid to change definitions based on the context... sometimes reproductive sex is relevant, sometimes phenotype is more important, sometimes socialization is more relevant. this is not weakness, it's recognizing that reality is not so rigid and sometimes you must use a different model to get the understanding you want.

#feminism #radical feminism #mypost #stop wasting your time... being dogmatic to any definition always results in weird outcomes #i don't think this weakens the radical feminist case at all #sometimes looking like a woman (have a female phenotype) is more relevant than one's reproductive sex #sometimes one's reproductive sex is quite important #5ARD people go through a normal male puberty for example and if they get a surgery they can also reproduce using their sperm #many 5ARD ppl identify as women bc of their socialization. and in some spaces that makes a lot of sense!#but in sports it is probably not fair for them to compete because they are male in reproductive sex and in phenotype.#recognizing complexity will not hurt us; it will make our case stronger and fuller and richer #justice for all requires dealing with the edge cases and not just defining them away #if you care about intersex women then you need to get used to thinking about this sorta thing #because it is very common for intersex kids to be raised as female despite being reproductively male #it's a space requiring nuance. care. compassion. and thoughtfulness.#philosophy of language

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leupagus · 1 year

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Proud of you, Canadian Ice Stick Hitting Guys. Real proud.

#look I don't care about sports #and I particularly don't care about ice stick hitting #but steve dangle deserves a little happiness #so good on them

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zestingbloodorange · 7 months

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nothing is more fascinating in the f1 fandom to me than fans that hate carlos purely cause he's spanish but love logan purely cause he's american and make the build the wall jokes about checo whilst calling george a tory.it was my favorite thing when scrolling through f1 twitter accounts everybody just hypocriting together #community fr

#like you don't care about those issues if it's only bad when a driver you don’t like does it stop playing #the couple of months i spent stalking f1 twitter felt like i was pranking myself #carlos sainz #formula 1 #ferrari #logan sargeant #williams racing #checo perez #red bull racing #george russell #mercedes #sports

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scribefindegil · 6 months

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read the short story about Breq's time playing Death Volleyball to fund her revenge quest and it's very cool but I *cannot* keep track of everyone's full-sentence names. sadly my eyes just glaze over every time a name is mentioned which is not ideal in a story about intrigue.

#good to know i would not do well in the Tetrarchy i guess #both bc of names and bc i don't care about sports #imperial radch

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stellacadente · 23 days

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hi nico here !! new blog i'm still setting it up be patient with me (i'm also quite busy today so yknow)

#will follow people in the near future but at least for now i'm not linking this new blog to my old one #and also anon off sorry #we'll see how this goes but for now i feel safer this way!#also yeah i will also remake a sports sideblog cause i can't not have a sports sideblog i'm way too invested in sports not to make a whole #separate blog so it's all neaty stored there and those who only care about that can see it <3 and those who don't won't lmao #url is for the song stella cadente by mahmood <3 (i can't believe it was free ???? it feels like fairly generic words)#blog title is from joyride by kevin abstract #nico rambles

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mlobsters · 2 months

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xkcd

#i don't even care if people try to be interested! i just don't want them saying shitty things about it constantly #i get people have feelings about you know- not caring about football/sports when it seems like everyone else (the “normies” etc) does #but then most people i've been around socially (computer people and queer folks) aggressively tell you how much they don't care about it #and someone i follow today had a little joke about the super bowl being straight pride parade day and blah blah #and i was just feeling some feelings. but saw someone link this elsewhere and was like hey. that's cool thanks randall #xkcd #nfl

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clairityy · 1 year

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I wish more americans appreciated the sport of soccer because lets be honest, its so much more entertaining than american football, one of the most boring sports to ever exist

#i don't understand why so many people like football its so boring and there's so many ad breaks #idc if people call it the 'nation's sport'#because first of all baseball is actually the official sport of the united states #and second of all football just consists of a bunch of men tackling each other and getting brain damage #there's nothing fun about lifelong brain damage but its America baby we don't care about people's wellbeing #but i digress #world cup #soccer #football #text post

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scuderia-hamilton · 2 months

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honestly, regarding recent events i'm not even that excited for the season to start. this sport is in shambles, they allow cheaters and sexual predators to walk around freely and retain positions of power, they have no problem with racism and ableism, they showed time and time again that this is no safe place for women and despite all talk of progressivism and equality, they have changed nothing. the team who supposedly represents the pinnacle of motorsport is full of racist misogynistic ableist bigots and they cheat their way to the top and even though everyone can see it, nothing is being done. i'm so fucking done, honestly. the few people who try to fight for change are constantly diminished and ridiculed and their hard work is basically worth little to nothing. they take one step forward and everyone else takes five backwards and we're back to where we started. they penalise drivers for wearing jewellery and speaking their mind, and then they turn around and they let an abusive asshole walk around freely and represent a team, but it's fine, cause he's such a successful business man. fuck morals and integrity, the racing and entertainment is what matters i guess. they're willing to put entertainment over the drivers' health and safety and it's absolutely disgusting to watch. money talks and everything else is secondary. this is the sport where powerful, rich, white men can get away with absolutely anything, no matter the amount of public backlash. this is the sport where drivers protect sexual offenders, where they are allowed to say racist, misogynistic and ableist comments, because there are no consequences at all, if you're part of the select few that is. and the fandom isn't any better at all. it is predominantly male dominated, full of chad bros who are willing to rally behind any awful person as long as it's a man and they instantly attack women, no matter what they do or don't do. women in this fandom are diminished, disrespected and hated on every single day. no matter what they do, it's never good enough, it's never smart enough, it is never enough. and i'm beyond words sick of it.

#formula 1 #f1 #this is a rant that i had to get off my chest #there are many other issues that should be talked about #and honestly i'm terrified of the direction this sport is headed to #and like i know that everyone knows this but i don't care

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