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#I don’t think any of these girls are gay or bi but I still like them
asunnycoffee · 3 months
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I’m actually so tired of the way twitter gays will be like “you’re bi and date nonbinary people? You’re gay and go both ways?? Youre aromantic but date people? That doesn’t make ANY sense.”
Like seriously do you not know what this community is about. The literal definition of queer means peculiar. Sometimes queer people are fucking weird and messy and don’t make sense and sometimes and it’s both confusing and beautiful. Some of you will literally be like “um there’s no such thing as bi lesbians” yet you still have the sheer and utter fucking audacity to be like “I love weird gays!”.
Yeah, you sure love your sanitized version of what it means to be queer. You don’t actually know what it means, you just think “lesbian means girls who like girls, gay means boys who like boys, bi means people who like girls and boys, and-“ when the entire fucking point of it is that not everyone fits into the boxes you assign them. Exclusionists can go eat a dick.
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smeddiemunson · 7 months
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No Upside Down AU + a platonic Stobin sleepover + buckingham and steddie referenced.
“So?” Robin asked. 
Steve sucked his teeth. “Robin, we’ve only just started the sleepover, I’m not telling you yet!” 
“I’m in my pyjamas! We have a movie on, we have popcorn! We built a blanket fort!” Robin pointed to each thing in turn as if to remind Steve that he knew exactly how long she had been waiting already. “If you make me wait any longer, I’ll kill you.” 
Steve snorted. It was the most empty threat he’d ever heard in his life. If he died, by Robin’s hand or otherwise, she would follow him soon after. They were soul bonded at this point; one couldn’t exist without the other.
“Alright.” Robin slapped at his arm excitedly. “Alright! Stop hitting me!” 
Robin stopped hitting him but left her hands on his arm, fingers pressing, urging against his skin. 
“It was good.”
“Steve!” Robin moaned, throwing herself back against the pillows in truly dramatic fashion. “You can’t just give me that! I want all the details!”
“I don’t know, Rob!” Steve cried back. “I had fun. He’s really funny and sweet, and...” Steve bit his lip as a blush spread across his cheeks. 
Robin picked up on it like a bloodhound. “At least tell me what film you watched?” 
Steve turned his face away from her, focusing too intently on the movie. “I don’t really remember,” he mumbled. 
Robin squealed. “Steven Harrington, you sly dog! I knew there were details!” 
Steve rolled his eyes. “He had all these blankets and pillows in the back of his van, and he put fairly lights up, and we kinda couldn’t see the screen because we had to park further away for obvious reasons. But-“ Steve took a deep breath, then rushed out, “It might have been the best first date I’ve ever been on.”
“Eddie Munson, a romantic. Who would’ve thought? Certainly not me!”
Steve shoved at her.
“Well don’t stop there! I want the details!”
Steve groaned. “Do you really want the details?” 
“Of course I do! If I can’t have my gay romance, then I want to live through yours!” 
Steve lifted his arm to tuck Robin underneath it and pull her into his chest. He ignored the way she tried to struggle away. “You could still have your gay romance, Birdie. You just have to tell her.” 
“You don’t know that!” Robin replied as she was finally able to get her arms free enough to push away from Steve. 
“She’s friends with Eddie,” Steve reminded her. That should be all Robin needed to know to explain anything about former Queen of Hawkins High, Chrissy Cunningham. 
Robin slapped at him. “Just because she’s friends with a gay person doesn’t mean she is gay, dingus. That’s not how it works!” 
Steve easily batted her hands away with a chuckle. “That’s how it worked with me!” 
Robin groaned. 
“I’m just saying, I would never have thought about being bi if you hadn’t said anything about being a lesbian. Maybe Chrissy is the same!” 
Robin buried her face into her hands. “Okay,” She said, though it was muffled by her hands so much that Steve pulled them away from her face and kept her wrists in his hands.
“Okay. Say, by some miracle, she likes girls, what’s to say that she would like me?”
Steve made a noise of disagreement. “First of all, she would be crazy to not like you because you are amazing and beautiful and the bravest person I’ve ever met—” 
Robin rolled her eyes but Steve merely rolled his back, shook her hands a little and carried on. They’d had this exact conversation before and Steve didn’t feel like retracing it because there were more important things to get to.
“But I am almost certain she does like you back. She definitely flirts with you all the time.”
“No she does not.”
“I think I know more about girls flirting that you do, Robin.”
“Why? Because you turn into a little school girl around Eddie and do the same thing?” 
“No,” Steve said, though he did so through a blush that did nothing to defend him from the accusation. “I know because girls always flirt with me.” 
“Oh shut up.” 
“They do!” Steve finally let go of Robin’s wrists so he could push a frustrated hand through his hair— already floppy from his shower and lack of product. “They do and I know Chrissy is doing it to you.”
“Prove it.”
Steve grinned and began listing off his points on his fingers. “She always laughs at your jokes. She twirls her hair whenever she talks to you. She asked you to explain that fucking French movie you forced us to watch the other week and she listened.”
Robin whacked him again. “You told me you liked that film!”
“I fell asleep! Of course I liked it.” Steve huffed. “Do you need me to keep going about Chrissy?”
“Maybe not,” Robin muttered. Then she squarked as Steve scrambled over her and out of their blanket fort to where the phone was hooked into the wall. “What are you doing?” 
Steve just grinned as he quickly clicked some numbers on the keypad. 
Robin watched in confusion from her spot on the floor.
“Hello, this is Steven Harrington. I was wondering if I could speak to Chrissy?” He waggled his eyebrows at her. “Thank you, Ma’am.” 
Robin’s face turned white in a second. She scrambled to her feet, losing them under herself a couple of times, but she couldn’t reach Steve to slam the phone down for him before he started speaking again. 
“Hi Chrissy, I have Robin here.” He thrust the phone at her chest, not giving Chrissy time to answer and mouthed, ask her. 
Robin glared, hoping that Steve would let it go. But he was as stubborn as she was and Chrissy’s confused call of Robin meant she wouldn’t be able to hold out longer than him this time. She would get her revenge, he was sure of it.
“Chrissy. Hi. How’s things?” Robin stumbled when she finally put the phone up to her ear. She didn’t stop glaring at Steve though. 
Steve only smiled in triumph.
“Yeah, I’m good. It’s good. Yeah.” 
Steve jabbed Robin in the side to stop her from talking herself in circles. He gestured with his hands for her to get on with it. 
“So, my reason for calling, and just, you know, stop me if this is at all weird and you don’t wanna hear it or if i’ve got the wrong idea. it’s Steve’s fault really--” He jabbed her again and pouted when she managed to land a meaty smack against his ribs. But it did get her to blurt out, “Do you wanna go to Benny’s with me? On Friday? As, like, a date?” 
Steve pumped his fist in the air. It may not have been the way he would have asked a girl out, but Robin had done it!
“Awesome. Yeah. Great. I’ll see you Friday then. I’ll pick you up. No, I won’t I can’t drive. Steve will drive us. But I’ll see you Friday? Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Bye Chrissy.” 
Robin handed him the phone in a daze, eyes following his hand as he hooked it back on the wall. 
“What the fuck?” She breathed. 
“I think you just got yourself a date with a hot girl, Robin.” 
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steddielicious · 8 months
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There’s all this discourse on bi Steve that assumes that either Steve has always known or that Eddie was his awakening. But what about a dumbass Steve whose first kiss was with a guy, but he didn’t clue in until much later? In this essay, I will elaborate on…
Steve, who at age eleven is best friends with Tommy and Carol. They’ve come up with a pact to all have their first kisses with each other (Steve and Carol and Tommy and Carol, obviously), but the day before, Steve and Tommy are scared that they’ll be bad kissers and Carol will tell everyone. So the two boys decide to practice ahead of time. Of course, this is where Steve’s reputation as a Casanova starts. He just has this natural ability.
And as years pass, Steve and Tommy never really talk about it; but whenever something new comes up, they always practice before Carol. French kissing and necking and dry humping. They don’t want to blow their loads too early with their first handjobs with her, so it’s only natural that the first hands on their dicks that don’t belong to themselves are each other’s. When they’re fourteen, Tommy and Carol lose their virginity to each other and Steve fucks her right after. But it changes everything, and Carol actually wants to date Tommy. In an exclusive relationship.
Steve starts serial dating, taking first kisses and virginities all over town. None of the girls feel any different from Carol (or Tommy), so when he’s alone with Danny Mahoney in the showers after a swim meet in sophomore year and it turns into making out and sloppy handjobs, Steve doesn’t expect anything more. A mouth is a mouth and a hand is a hand, right? It’s just guys helping each other out. After all, they’re not doing anything really queer, like blowjobs or anal. At some point, Danny admits that he actually is gay. (It doesn’t bother Steve as much as he expects.)
When Steve is a junior, he starts dating Nancy Wheeler and stops fooling around with Danny (and various girls). Even though it doesn’t really count with Danny, something deep inside him tells him it does. So Steve has a proper girlfriend and doesn’t really think about anyone other than her.
And then Jonathan Byers straddles him in an alley and beats the shit out of him for calling him a queer. Steve isn’t a fan of the fists, but as he feels Byers on his hips, the clouds part and it clicks that he’s being a massive hypocrite and asshole. When all is said and done and the demogorgon is defeated, Steve still stays with Nancy. But now he knows. He’ll never tell anyone, but it really doesn’t matter what gender the other person is. Either way, it doesn’t matter. He’s in love with Nancy and they’re going to be together forever.
Months later though, Jonathan is still wary around Steve and can’t quite bring himself to trust him, despite the new camera. And Steve needs to prove that he’s changed, so makes an effort to get to know Jonathan better. And one night in April 1984, when they’re baked out of their minds in the Byers’ backyard, Steve swears that he doesn’t care if Jonathan (or anyone in his family, for that matter) is a queer, because he himself likes guys. Jonathan is the one who puts a name to what Steve is - bisexual. No one really knows what it means, but David Bowie once said that he was, and if Steve has this thing in common with Bowie, it can’t be that bad.
That winter, when Steve is suffering through a broken heart and Danny is back from Berkeley for Christmas, Steve sheepishly admits that he’s actually into guys the same as girls. Danny rolls his eyes and they fuck all winter break long. Steve is eighteen now and really doesn’t have any real friends to hang out with (at least not until he’s comfortable around Jonathan and Nancy being a couple), so he spends a few Saturday nights in spring up in Indy’s gay clubs figuring out what he likes. And he likes it all.
Well, not quite. In May, after a basketball game, Billy Hargrove corners Steve in the locker room and aggressively kisses him. He then threatens to kill him if he tells anyone. Steve believes him of course, because Billy is a fucking psychopath with issues that run a mile deep.
And no, Steve doesn’t have the chance to tell Robin about himself in the Starcourt bathroom, thanks to Dustin and Erica barging in. But once they’ve been released from the hospital, he sneaks in her window that night and tells her that he gets it.
After all, gender is such an arbitrary factor in who’s hot or not, right?
(Robin says no, boys are gross.)
See more in the series at #peak bi experience
Crossposted to AO3 here
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gayvampyr · 2 years
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im sorry but this shit pisses me off. i don’t care if it’s a joke. where’s the punchline. even in 2022 gays still do not have equal rep in shows. the fact that only in the last couple years have we gotten actually semi-decent queer rep shows how much queer media is still needed. a lot of people still don’t even know what the word “bisexual” means, much less terms like “asexual” or “aromantic” or “nonbinary”. whether you’d like to admit it or not, it matters that a show actually has a bi character and explicitly says the word bisexual— a popular show at that. ik some of you guys have forgotten that the rest of the world isnt as acquainted with queerness as your online lgbt friend group, but a show on a major streaming platform saying “bisexual people exist” is important. it needs to be said, and it needs to keep being said until people stop forgetting and erasing bi people.
and yeah, the line “masculine guys can be gay” might seem like a stupid obvious thing, but a lot of people don’t consider masc guys to be gay at all, just like they don’t expect lesbians to be fem. i’ve been told several times that i don’t “look gay” and that i must be confused because i should like “boy stuff” and dress masculine if i really liked girls. people need to be reminded that anyone can be gay, as ridiculous as it sounds. we need to be seen as more than a stereotype and im sick of you “edgy” gays shitting on every piece of queer media like it’s twilight.
the show that these tags are in response to isn’t even adult media. honestly it’s hardly even YA. this show is for kids and teens who are discovering who they are. growing up, i never had ANY sort of representation. i didn’t grow up thinking it was okay to like girls, or that i could be interested in people other than boys, or that i even had the option to not like boys at all. queer representation is not only important, but it’s crucial. straight people get to see themselves everywhere, and never as comedic relief or the butt of a joke. queer kids grow up thinking that what they are is humiliating, that they should be ashamed of being those people who get laughed and made fun of on tv (and irl). in 99% of media, gay and trans people have been a laughing stock. the most representation a queer could get a decade ago was a white cis fem (but not TOO fem) gay man who was only a side character, was never shown with a partner, and served primarily as a clown, like queerness is a circus and cishets are the audience.
so i don’t CARE if young queer media is cringe. i don’t CARE if you don’t like it or if you think it’s forced or stupid or pointless or even if it’s just for a corporation to profit off our existence. the point isn’t why it was made or how bad you think the writing is, the point is that it exists and that there are now young queer people who can finally see themselves, not as a joke but as real people, on screen and go, “that. that’s what i am.” and im elated for this younger generation to be able to say that when i couldn’t. so i don’t care if you’d rather just be called a faggot again like in the good ol days when we were dropping like flies and everyone hated us. if cringey tv shows and bad writing is the price for queer kids to understand themselves better and for cishet people to get a better understanding of queer people, then it’s a small price to pay. shut the fuck up and let queer media exist
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chrollohearttags · 11 months
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gay bestie armin who still makes sure his friend ends her night very satisfied after a terrible tinder date 😵‍💫🫠
sjsjdjd woah! ykw, I’m fucking with it. Bi-curious Armin would be so hot. I feel like he’d be such a good friend because he would be so choosy about who he’d let take his girl out for a date. He would help you scroll the app and honestly, he wouldn’t particularly care for any of the choices. Swiping as the two of you lie on your bed and because you’ve only known him to date men, you’re EXTREMELY comfortable with one another. He is your best friend after all so he can brutally honest. Nitpicking and being shady because he doesn’t date just anyone and he’s not gonna let his boo do it either. “I mean he’s cute..if that’s what you like. That is your type so..” He’s so sassy! But although he’s not happy about seeing another guy, especially some loser from a dating app who’s height and car are his only personality traits whisk you away. But your bestie would be thrilled when you come back to your shared condo, tossing your shoes to the corner in a frustrated huff as you get back through the door. As always, Armin’s waiting with wine and snacks, ready to console you..he already knows what’s up. “Wanna talk about it?” Asking as he pours you a glass. The two of you get to chatting, he’s rubbing on your legs, listening as you ramble about this asshole, his obnoxiousness and how he tried to get you to have sex on the first link but he couldn’t even kiss right but he’s really not concerned, nor does he give a damn. “Well maybe if you stopped fucking with guys that can’t even find the clit, you wouldn’t have this issue. Sweetheart, you’ve got to up your standards a little.” And you know he’s right, like always. But he has an even better idea. One that involves him brushing a hand across his cheek, whispering into your ear and slightly grasping your neck. “I mean, I could do better than that..but I don’t think you’re ready for it.” Naturally, you think it’s a joke because you had known him to be strictly for the dick but you’re sadly mistaken. “You play too much, for real.” Little do you know, Armin is bisexual and has been with a couple ladies as well. It’s when you dismiss it and swear he’s bluffing that he clutches your ankle, tossing your leg to the other side of the couch. “Who said I was playing?” And suddenly, the energy in the room completely shifts. You’re going from cracking jokes and gossiping with him like one of the girls to moaning his name as his head rests between your thighs, gliding his tongue in and throughout your folds like he’s a man starved. His freshly done pastel pink manicure sinking deep into that tight entrance while the steel ball of his tongue ring swirls your clit. You’re losing your mind because he eats pussy better than any straight man you know. It’s like he’s been waiting for this chance. Next thing you know, he’s got you leaking, orgasming about three times before he lets up. And not without a smile on his face. “Oh my gosh, I don’t think I’ve ever came that hard! I didn’t even know you liked women..” Befuddled and out of breath as he leaves you there shaking. “..I don’t. But for you, I’ll make an exception.”
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myriadblvck · 2 months
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non military au;
Simon fiddles with the picture in his hands, flipping the semi-torn corner over and over again. Mum smiles gently, hand stretched out to do something Simon doesn’t remember. Her fingers are inches away from his hair, almost white at that age, and smiling in that way kids do when they aren’t sure how to smile.
He was six, he thinks. Tommy wasn’t born until he was seven. Simon thinks Tommy would’ve been in this picture.
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“I wont leave him, Simon, I love him.” Simon bites his tongue as Mum uses her shaky fingers to make herself a glass of tea. “He’s just sick. He wasn’t always like this.”
Simon chews on his cheek. He doesn’t know what to say. “Mama, please,” is all he can think to say. “I can— I can take care of us. I know I can. I’ve been doing it for years. We can— We can go anywhere you want. We could go to the Netherlands, you said—“
“I’m not leaving, son. It wouldn’t be right to leave my husband while he’s sick.”
“You’re sick, Mum.” Simon looks out the window at the front of the house. “I can help you. We can go anywhere that isn’t here, Mum, please.”
“What kind of wife would I be if I left my husband to suffer alone?”
“He’s going to hurt you. When I’m gone he’s gonna hurt you.” Simon sniffles. “He’s going to get angry.”
“He would never hurt me, Simon.”
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Simon frowns. “Hey, is it okay if I go out?” Simon lifts his head from the picture, flipping it face down.
Sometimes he looks at Tommy and still sees his tiny baby that he needs to keep quiet while his teeth come in. Sometimes he looks at him and sees the snot nosed, red faced kid who lost a tooth and freaked out. Sometimes he sees him as the teenager he is now, chipped tooth from a football cleat to the face, eyebrow piercing, and eyes just like their dad.
“With who?”
Tommy climbs into the stool at the kitchen island. “Uh, Adam, Noah, and Max. I think. That’s the plan anyway.” Simon’s met all of Tommy’s friends. A bunch of little shits, but most Teenagers are.
“Doin’ what?”
Tommy shrugs. “Orgy.”
Simon rolls his eyes. “Thomas.”
“I dunno. Football. Videogames. Talk about girls.” Tommy drums his fingers on the counter. “At Adam’s, cuz we can’t be at Noah’s because Adam got caught screwing Noah’s sister.”
Simon closes his eyes to process that wonderful nugget of information. “Didn’t you say Adam likes Noah?”
“Noah’s in denial about being gay. He totally is. He looks at Adam like he hung the moon.” Tommy fiddles with his eyebrow piercing. “But Adam’s bi. And a slut. And Noah’s sister is hot.”
Simon rubs his temple. “Jesus fucking— okay. I regret asking. Yeah, you can go.” Simon stretches, grabs his notebook from the kitchen drawer and starts making a list of bills to budget for the month. “What’re your rules?”
“Tell you where I’m going if I leave town or move locations in general. Be home before twelve. Call you if I can’t get home. Let you know if i’m going to be drinking. Don’t do any hard drugs. Don’t do any drugs that you don’t give me. Text you every thirty mins. Come home if I feel funny. Call you if I feel funny. Don’t get into a car with anybody who isn’t Roach, Soap, Keegan, Mrs Price, or you.”
Simon looks up from the notebook. “Yeah,” Simon nods, “Yeah. Okay. You’re a good kid, Tommy.” Tommy looks at him funny. “C’mere. Just… you grew up. You’re growing up too fast.” Tommy walks over and lets Simon hug him, wrapping his arms around Simon in return. Simon closes his eyes. He remembers when Tommy still used kiddie watermelon scented shampoo. Simon kisses his head. “I love you so much. You’re my baby brother. You’ll always be my baby brother. No matter what, okay?”
Tommy nods. “‘course. I love you too, you know. I’m sorry I’m a dick sometimes. I’m sorry for saying I hate you. I don’t hate you.”
“You were fourteen and scared. I never held it against you. You’re a teenager. Your hormones are all over the place. I wasn’t the nicest when I was your age.”
“You were nice to me,” Tommy mumbles.
“You’re my little brother. Im always nice to you.” Simon lets him go. Tommy isn’t a kid anymore. He isn’t twelve still missing teeth. He can’t sleep in his bed anymore when he had nightmares of their dad taking him away. Simon clears his throat. “Fuck off,” Simón says playfully, “Come home.”
“Word,” Tommy says. He grabs his backpack from a chair. Simon goes back to his budget book. He gets maybe two list items written down before Tommy says, “Hey, Simon?”
“Yeah, bud?” Simon looks up, tapping the pencil against the counter.
“Soap’s right, you know. You are a good dad.” Tommy smiles at him, shutting the door and locking it behind him.
You’re a good dad. You’re a good dad. You’re a good dad.
Simon stares at the door for a long time. “Huh,” He mumbles, “Dad to a teenager at twenty.” he thinks about Tommy being 12 and crying because Simon said there wasn’t enough room in his bag for his stuffed bear. Simon thinks about the clothes he sacrificed to stuff his bear in his own bag so Tommy would leave.
Simon leaves his pencil on the kitchen counter, walking across the flat to Tommy’s door. He really shouldn’t, but Tommy says he doesn’t care if he goes in his room. Simon turns the doorknob, flicking on the lights and walking over to the closet in Tommy’s room. It’s small. Simon crouches down and moves a few bags around.
Sitting in a ratty bag with frayed edges is that same build-a-bear Simon had let Tommy make for his seventh birthday. Tommy had begged and begged and Simon had done a concerning amount of illegal things to get enough money in his pocket to afford the bear, some clothes and other things.
The sharpie on the foot reads T Riley. Simon knows Tommy still sleeps with it every night. Every morning when he wakes him up from school, Tommy shoves the bear under the blankets. Simon puts the bear back in the bag and closes it. He leaves the room as it was and goes back to his budget book, leaving room on the grocery list for Tommy to jot down anything he might want.
You’re a good dad, you know.
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biboomerangboi · 1 year
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Not enough people talk about how in Rebel Robin, Robins parents are ex-hippy stoners forcing themselves to settle down but in doing so have giving Robin like all theses ideals about the world and like have talked to her about gay people and bi people they’ve met and that helps her with her realisation.
Like don’t get me wrong she’s still afraid to come out to them cause they don’t seem to hang out with any of the queer people she’s heard about and her sexuality is still very new to her but like there’s a chance Robin would have come out to her parents in between season 3 and 4.
So just picture for me, Robin comes out post starcourt because she’s been through scarier shit. She sits her parents down and talks to them with the knowledge that someone knows and has accepted her before. Also knowing that if things do go bad she has Steve and can run away to him. But her parents don’t take it bad. They like don’t take it great either because she’s not super close to them. But they still took it in and we’re awkward about it but not in a homophobic way in a very we’re trying to be strict parents but accepting parents kinda way.
So now Robin isn’t allowed to have any girl sleepovers but Steve basically is allowed to move in and she’s allowed to go to his anytime she wants. Steve is invited to family dinner and for once he’s not grilled like he’s taking their daughters virtue and instead her parents just see him as an extension of Robin, and Robin loves it cause she doesn’t have to perform or like live up to expectations. Her home becomes a safe place even though the world gotten so much scarier now that she knows monsters are real. But she has some support and is accepted.
But after 4 she starts to catch feelings and her parents know, and suddenly theres the strict parents she’s been waiting for. They treat Nancy like they would any boy beforehand. Robin has a curfew. She’s grilled repeatedly. Her parents ask questions about Nancys family and grill Steve for more info. Steve has the joy of saying Robin is at his place that night and to play the friend who like answers the calls being like, “Yes Mr Buckley, Robin is for sure with me. No she can’t come to the phone she’s in the bathroom. Sure she’s safe. Definitely not with a girl rn. Yes I’ll see you at dinner tomorrow when I drive her over.”
Like I just think it’d be so cool if her parents know and like know her and Steve are completely platonic so they are fine brining him in, but they will grill Nancy like she’s being interviewed for a change. Because that’s their little girl at the end of the day and they only want what’s best for their little girl. Meanwhile Steve is like a part of the family, he’s Robins brother he’s at this table because he’s a part of the shovel talk.
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victimsofyaoipoll · 9 months
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Stephanie Brown
Literally my best friend ever!!! Every time she shows up in a comic I point at her and smile!!! She’s the vigilante known as spoiler & batgirl & was a robin before getting fridged because of editorial mandate and misogyny she deserves so much better @_@. The m/m that some people hate her for is timkon; like they ARE very gay but people are genuinely insane about hating her instead of also realizing that she too is gay (insane amount of subtext w her bff cass). Basically she was Tim’s girlfriend for a long time on and off. People will literally call her abusive for no reason they’ll be like oh but she didn’t apologize for starting a gang war accidentally and faced no consequences for it :/ as if she wasn’t literally KILLED OFF BRUTALLY. And although hate is rarer for her nowadays from what I’ve seen she’s also a victim of Background Lesbian Syndrome. And also a victim of Woman Not Allowed To Have Ocmplex Feelings in the source material itself (tim is canonically bi now yay but like steph wasn’t allowed to have any complicated feelings at all at her on again off again ex breaking up with her for good???). Anyways she’s the light of my life.
she’s the light of my life my baby girl my everything. she canonically dated tim drake, but people love to ship tim with his male friend kon or his male brothers (🤢🤮) and so they constantly sideline her, making her the quirky wingwoman or sometimes even villainizing her by trying to claim she was abusive to tim. i don’t know why so many people hate her my girl will literally just be standing there and people will hate on her.
Stephanie was first introduced in the 1994 Robin series as a side love interest for Robin, but when she turned out to be really popular she became the main love interest. Because of this, she was fully fleshed out as a vigilante calling herself Spoiler to try and take down her villainous father, the Cluemaster. She later grew a lot closer to other cast members, such as Batgirl and Oracle, to get herself a firmly established place among the bats. Then, she dies in a gang war after taking up the Robin mantle. Eventually, in 2009, she was brought back from the dead and took on the Batgirl mantle. Her and Robin get back together sometime around ~2010 and they are solidly together until 2021. Then, Robin breaks up with her off panel for zero reason in canon, only to date some really boring guy named Bernard. By fanon, she's often demonized and turned into an abuser to make either this ship, or a lot of other mlm ships happen. Either that or things are mysteriously set in the time she's dead despite characters who were not yet introduced until she returned appearing. strange.
Selina Kyle/Catwoman
She's a badass and a complex character. She's awesome regardless of her relationship with Batman. Still, she's often called a b*tch by the fandom and villainized for the sake of their m/m ship.
You should see the way she’s completely ignored in favor of people shipping Batman with the Riddler. You’d think she’s not in this movie at all from the fic / art some people make.
Literally has suffered more than Jesus, reduced to a sex object by so many writers and then completely discarded by fanon for the sake of Bruce’s so called boyfriends again and again even though she’s so much more than those most reductive portrayals. Robs the rich to give to herself. Definitely had a threesome with Harley and Ivy at least once. Too good to be bad, too bad to be good. 
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kingofanemptyworld · 15 days
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Rin, identity issues, and the complications of being an isolated, alienated teenager
It feels sort of weird to say but I generally don’t head canon characters as having particular sexualities. Whatever people go for in fics is usually fine with me - gay, lesbian, bi, pan, something more general like queer. As long as it makes sense for the story they’ve built and the character they’ve shaped to fit it, I’m good. Unless you’re ignoring a canon LGBTQ+ sexuality, in which case, yeah, I’ll take issue with that.
But anyway. Rin.
I’ve got my personal ship for him (BonRin my beloved), but regardless of the pairing I see him as bisexual. He’s so open with his infatuation with Shiemi, and okay, sure, fandom likes to ignore the love interest in shounen for the most part because we’ve got gay ships to peddle. But I don’t see the point in that unless it really reads like it’s a front, or a result of a character suppressing themselves for one reason or another. And with Rin, I think it’s pretty clear his affection for Shiemi is sincere. You technically have the in-universe evidence of the demon that brought out his true desires to back that up, but even without it, Rin likes her. It’s complicated because of Yukio and Shiemi’s own inexperience with romance, and yet I never once doubt he really likes her.
That being said… he’s very appreciative of the guys in his life, too. (Peddling my gay ship here) Bon in particular, considering he’s often admiring how cool he thinks Bon is, that his haircut suits him whether it’s the blonde rooster look or the undercut. If you don’t want to see it as romantic interest, that’s your prerogative, but to me Rin comes across as seeing cool and cute as different traits he finds attractive (in Bon and Shiemi respectively).
I also think his bisexuality would fit neatly into his narrative struggles to “pass” throughout the early parts of the series. Rin has grown up as the neighborhood problem child, ostracized for being violent, and eventually he decides he’s fine with just his brother and his father — and the rest of the monastery, presumably — for company. (Except that’s absolutely not true and clearly he’s starved for friendship and support.) People looked at him and saw a monster, even before his demonic heritage made an appearance; why would he bother giving them even more ammunition when it comes to reasons to hate him? So no matter when he figured out his attraction to guys, he’s not going to lean into it, because he also likes girls, right? (Ignoring for a moment that bisexuality is a lot more nuanced than that.)
Rin likes girls, Rin is human — that’s what’s going to get people to like him, or at the very least tolerate him. That he likes guys, that he’s half demon, he can shove that shit down and pretend it doesn’t exist. Lock up any stray thoughts and keep the sword sheathed around anyone who doesn’t already know.
(Excuse me for being amused by Rin wielding his humanity and supposed heterosexuality as a sword and shield.)
The problem, of course, is that he can’t keep up the facade forever. The narrative won’t let him. Rin has to embrace his demonic side, because it’s the only way to move forward and to continue to help his loved ones. And once he’s moved past the issue of his friends being upset over the deception, when they understand he’s still Rin despite what he’d hidden from them, Rin is finally allowed to be himself. He uses his flames, he lets his tail move freely in the open around the Cram School kids. Rin still doesn’t like this side of himself — it’s inextricably tied to every moment of pain and isolation he’s dealt with his entire life, including the death of Father Fujimoto (and, y’know, his mom). But he is moving forward, he’s trying to adapt.
And isn’t that some great fucking subtext for his bisexuality, too?
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aemiron-main · 1 year
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like. sorry not sorry. but if literally any character other than mike had the amount of “not interested in girls,” imagery that mike has, you guys would be chomping at the bit to call him gay. but apparently dating a girl once (the same girl who straight up asked if he would be her brother and the same girl who was mistaken for a boy repeatedly in s1) makes him not gay. like. he’s not into girls. the show is constantly beating us with a “mike doesn’t like girls” stick. there’s more scenes with “mike doesn’t like girls,” proof than there are scenes with “will doesnt like girls” proof and yet people have been saying that will was gay long before the duffers confirmed it.
he’s gay. sorry not sorry! i dont personally buy into “all interpretations of mike’s sexuality are equally valid,” because while i don’t care about headcanons, i don’t think that all interpretations are equally textually valid/canon supported. mike has far too much “not into girls” imagery for me to agree that bi mike is equally as canon-supported as gay mike.
Of course, people are allowed to have different analysis than me- i’ve read a ton of bi mike analysis to try and figure out what he is and i’ve still come to the conclusion that he’s gay. Because all the analysis of the idea of Mike liking girls that i’ve been able to find hinges on ignoring the canon scenes demonstrating his lack of attraction to girls. not just interpreting the evidence differently, but outright ignoring.
This isn’t hate or a personal attack, it’s literally simply a matter of what exists in the text of the show vs what doesn’t.
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westofessos · 1 year
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So I just finished Gilmore Girls for the first time and boy, do I have some thoughts:
First of all, I love this show so much. More than I ever thought I would. It’s just so comforting. I totally get it now.
Now, for specifics.
Lorelai:
I love Lorelai. She does make some dumb choices, but in the end, she’s just so loveable and fun, I can’t help but adore her.
Rory:
I do not get the hate I’ve seen for Rory! Yes, like her mom, she makes stupid decisions, but she’s so wonderful. Maybe it’s just because I relate to her so closely, but I love Rory so much.
Luke:
Ughhhh I love love love Luke. He’s so unexpectedly hilarious sometimes?? I did not foresee that when I started. Scott Patterson is also strangely one of the best actors on the show, which I also did not expect. Luke is a gem, we love him.
Luke & Lorelai:
How could you not love these two together? They’re absolutely perfect for each other and the pining, especially on Luke’s part, makes for incredible television. I do think their dynamic kind of lost the really special ‘will they, won’t they’ tension after season 1/2, but I still ship them. So glad they ended up together. When she was still with Christopher near the end of season 7, I got a little worried.
Paris:
PARIS IS GAY. I will accept nothing less. She is queer in some way, whether she’s a lesbian or bi. She had absolutely no chemistry with any of her love interests but so much with Rory. Also she’s just amazing all around. I fucking love Paris. Make her queer, cowards.
Lane:
How could you not love Lane? She’s the absolute shit. Cool, supportive, loyal, and a fucking rockstar. I didn’t mind her with Zach to begin with (even though I thought it was a bit strange how they all of a sudden liked each other), but when they got married and had kids, that was a big nope for me. Lane Kim deserved to be a famous rockstar.
Emily & Richard:
I went back and forth on these two. On one hand, they’re very entertaining characters and I do believe they’re trying to do what they think is best, but on the other, I think in the end they do more harm than good. The way they dismiss Lorelai’s trauma, and completely disregard everyone else’s opinion because they assume they automatically know what’s best, just rubs me the wrong way. Not to mention the manipulation and the going behind people’s backs. I think there should’ve been an arc at the end where they finally listened to Lorelai and acknowledged what they’d done and tried to change for the better.
Sookie:
Melissa McCarthy is great in everything, and this is no exception. She’s so sweet and lovable, and such a good friend to Lorelai. I love her. Plus her relationship with Jackson is just lovely.
Michel:
He’s such a sarcastic bitch and I love him. I think that’s all there is to say.
The Townies and Side Characters:
Kirk - Kirk is maybe the funniest part of the show and such a little sweetheart, I love him so much.
Babette - aka the best neighbour ever. We deserved even more of her and Morey than we got.
Miss Patty - same goes for Patty! We need more Patty!
Taylor - annoying and obnoxious but the show wouldn’t be the same without him. Irreplaceable.
Gypsy - again, we needed more!! Gypsy was so funny and I just wanted more!
April - I love April! She’s so sweet. I don’t, however, like what her arrival did to Luke and Lorelai’s relationship, and I fucking hate Anna.
Christopher - I don’t hate him, but he’s definitely not one of my favourites. I think it would’ve been a lot better if he and Lorelai had just been really close friends, or if he had just been fully out of the picture.
And finally, the boys:
Dean:
FUCK. DEAN. Do I need to say more? He’s a toxic, possessive, asshole and I hate him. He was okay in the beginning, but the ‘50s episode really clinched my hatred for him. Huge nope from me. What a dick.
Logan:
Man, do I hate Logan. Obviously not as bad as Dean, but he’s such a douchebag!! I genuinely cannot stand him or put up with any of his bullshit. I thought he would grow on me as the show went on but no, I only hated him more.
Jess:
Best for last. My love for this man knows no bounds. Obviously the best fit for Rory, I love them together, but also his relationship with Luke is so great. Also, justice for his and Rory’s relationship while they were dating!! Why did we only get to see it when shit hit the fan? They kept mentioning how they were going to hang out, that they were meeting up later on, so why didn’t we get to see any of it? Why did we only get to see them when Jess fucked up? I hate that. I also hate that they didn’t end up together, even when Jess grew and changed and bettered himself. Anyway, I just love him. I could talk about him forever.
A Year in the Life:
They tried to fit 22 episodes worth of Gilmore Girls into 4 episodes, and it didn’t work. The first episode did an okay job, and I did kind of love the last episode (the wedding!), but the middle two were. . . yikes. No theme song/opening titles? No transitions? NO SOOKIE EXCEPT FOR ONE SCENE AT THE END? Michel thinking about leaving the inn and Lorelai being abandoned by both of her friends? No Jackson? Rory being with an engaged Logan? Basically no Jess except for a few scenes, one of which broke my heart? I could go on forever.
That being said, they should make more after the cliffhanger they left us on. I’ll take whatever I can get, even if it’s subpar.
Anyway those are just a few of my many thoughts about this show. I can’t believe I waited until now to watch it. I need someone to talk about this show with so if you see this and want to talk, DM me.
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dumbponyboykinnie · 18 days
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the outsiders’ (and twttin) sexuality n gender n sometimes ethnicity n stuff hcs
before you read it i feel like i need to say that if anybody says something like “nooo they can’t all be gay and trans” ill say that it’s actually common for lgbt+ people to stick together even before they know that they’re all queer (and even before they come out to themselves!) SO YES. THEY CAN ALL BE GAY AND TRANS
and in case if someone still has some problems with it I DONT GAF (same shit if you dislike that they don’t only use he/him or she/her, just don’t read then please, i don’t wanna argue)
darry: transmasc and bi, he/him (i also love the transfem headcanon! she/her in that case), before his parents death his name used to be shaynne but then it became his middle name
ponyboy: agender in the way “idc about my gender”, gay or bi i can’t decide, doesn’t care about the pronouns as well, but everyone just uses he/him anyway and he’s fine with it
soda: cis but doesn’t gaf about the pronouns, bisexual with steve randle preference
johnny: cis and gay, he/they, mixed hispanic and south asian (but mostly south asian), as a kid didn’t know much about desi culture bc his parents never taught him anything about it, but at a more conscious age got really interested and learned quite a lot of things about it by himself
dally: sometimes i feel like he’s transmasc and sometimes like he’s cis; gay and struggles with accepting it, he/him ONLY, russian
steve: cis and bi, he/him and quarter black and partly native american
two-bit: usually hc him as cis but sometimes i feel like he’s transmasc (i have this hc for years because the person who translated the outsiders into russian wrote his name the same way the name “kate” can be written and ofc i understood that his name can’t be kate but i still came up with this hc), straight (accidentally kissing with dallas while both being drunk bc of confusing him with some blonde girl doesn’t count), he/any, mixed irish and native american and someone else but he doesn’t really care about it
cherry: cishet but a huge ally! she/they but everyone only uses she and it upsets her sometimes
marcia: cis, straight and she/her nothing special, dads a french immigrant
bob: cis and gay, he/him ONLY
randy: cis and gay too, he/they
tim and curly: both transmasc, gay, and haitian (bc of pumpkinsy0 headcanon), but tims he/him and curlys he/any
angela: cis and bi but thinks she’s straight, she/her and haitian
bryon: cis, bi with a preference towards girls (thinks hes straight), he/him. part of his family comes from britain but they moved long before he was born so it doesn’t affect anything
mark: aroace and cis (im not sure about it tho; ive seen some hcs where he’s trans and i like them too), he/any
cathy: transfem and don’t say anything about it please, straight, she/they, native american
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leneemusing · 2 years
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SEXUALITY AND GENDER IDENTITY THEMED PROMPTS FOR PRIDE
❝  i guess i always kinda knew?  it just wasn’t that important until i got older.  ❞
❝  it never mattered to me like,  what form people came in.  i love souls,  the body is just kinda like pretty packaging.  it’s nice but it’s not what’s important to me.  ❞
❝  oh yeah i did the whole ‘massive crush on my best friend’ thing.  wouldn’t recommend it.  ❞
❝  today my gender is kinda of ‘meeehh?’  ❞
❝  yeah of course i’m only into women,  have you seen them?  ❞
❝  i think i had a harder time accepting myself than my family ever did.  ❞
❝  i’m pretty sure everyone else knew i was gay before i ever realized it.   ❞
❝  i have a hard time talking about it,  even now—i’m not ashamed or anything like that.  i just,  don’t really know...how or what to say i guess.  ❞
❝  i think i’m ready to actually come out to them.  ❞
❝  i really want to tell them but i don’t wanna do it alone...could you help me with it?  ❞
❝  the ‘am i gay’ quizzes are a gateway drug.  ❞
❝  would you mind using [insert pronouns] for me now?  i’m trying to see how it feels.  ❞
❝  they’re right actually,  i’m gay and i do have an agenda to make everything gayer.  ❞
❝  ever since i told them i’m gay they keep pointing to every slightly attractive man and asking if he’s my type.  ❞
❝  me? no i don’t think i’m—i mean.  yeah sometimes i think about what it’d be like to kiss girls/guys but i’d never...come on,  everyone thinks about it a little bit right?  ❞
❝  at this point the closet is literally made of glass.  ❞
❝  actually,  i’m [insert identity].  ❞
❝  it’s all ‘i wish i was into women it’d be so much easier’ until you find out about the lesbian drama.  ❞
❝  i’m bisexual and confused.  not about being bi,  though.  just like...in general.  about life.  ❞
❝  i just need a nice bear to throw me around for a few hours,  i think it’d do more for me than therapy.  ❞
❝  i would trust any stone butch with my life.  ❞
❝  sappho would be so proud.  ❞
❝  i’m still figuring myself out.  i know i’m not straight,  that’s a start.  ❞
❝  i finally figured out my sexuality and then boom here comes a gender identity crisis.  ❞
❝  i’ve just...never really been interested in the whole sex thing.  ❞
❝  anyway,  if neither of us find our true loves in the next five to ten years,  wanna have a lavender marriage?  for the taxes.  ❞
❝   you wanna come to pride with me?  ❞
❝   this is my first pride actually,  i’m kinda nervous.  ❞
❝   well,  this seems as good a time as any to come out.  ❞
❝  no one can know about this—it’s just between us okay?  ❞
❝  i’d never tell anyone.  ❞
❝  you don’t owe anyone ‘coming out.’  it’s personal,  do things at your own pace.  only tell the people you want to.  ❞
❝  you’ve always made me feel safe so,  i just knew i could tell you about it.  ❞
❝  everyone’s hot and i’m a disaster who doesn’t know how to ask anyone out.  ❞
❝  i’m not sure i wanna fuck them or be them.  ❞
❝  i’m just experimenting i guess,  trying to figure out what i like.  ❞
❝  she said she didn’t see us working out but then she brought me a potted plant so i guess it’s still up in the air.  ❞
❝  i want to be one of those bold,  unapologetic people but i’m still just terrified.  ❞
❝  she’s so pretty i think i’m gonna die.  ❞
❝  oh,  no he’s got a great smile too.  i’m in deep this time.  ❞
❝  how did you know?   like for sure that you were into [gender]?  ❞
❝  do you mind if i ask you a question about being [identity]?  ❞
❝  thank you for trusting me with this.  ❞
❝  it’s okay,  take your time to put it into the right words.  i’m not going anywhere.  ❞
❝  wait,  you think i’m [identity]?  what makes you say that?  ❞
❝  i’m here,  i’m queer,  i wanna leave.  ❞
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gunthermunch · 1 year
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[Transcript under the cut]
Max: what are you doing Elsa: some jock’s math homework. I get good money out of this Max: still? Elsa: better than ever Max: this one’s pretty quiet. I kinda feel bad for disturbing him with our horrors Elsa: yeah he’s a nice lad Max: …sooo Elsa: fuck you Max: UGH ELSAA Elsa: I don’t understand what this will prove to you??? You enjoyed kissing a guy and there’s nothing you can do about that. and if you feel the same about kissing a girl then you’re bi Elsa: so, still gay. Max: …I don’t get it. Elsa: should I make a slideshow for you? Max: no, I want you to understand how hard this is for me. Elsa: Max, I know. But your dad is good gone and he can’t do anything about your choices in life now Elsa: plus, he never really had anything against you, he barely even looked at you. Max: well, now he would. and he would hate me. Max: I just wanted my dad to love me, Elsa. What else was I supposed to do? I was just a child Elsa: it’s okay, you don’t have to try and be his carbon copy anymore Max: hmph. I guess he never loved me anyways Elsa: probably, yeah. I don’t think he loved any of you, maybe Luna but- you and Hugo? HUGO?? Yeah, nope. Max: heh. you’re a piece of shit you know that? Elsa: that’s why we are friends! Elsa: …sigh. Fine, you win. Elsa: I set the timer, we have 5 seconds Max: make it 10 Elsa: 7 Max: hell. Fine Elsa: in three, two, one timer ticking Elsa: seven. Max: agh! Elsa: so? what's your verdict Max: nothing. Elsa: not a single chemical reaction in that brain of yours? besides clear disgust Max: what about you? You felt nothing too don’t lie to me Elsa: I’m emotionally unavailable as always. This meant and felt like the void. Max: … Max: I could be bi. You’re the problem Elsa: name one woman you had a crush on Max: easy. Max: …uhm- Elsa: there's your answer Elsa: you can't be homophobic and openly gay, just so you know. elsa's phone beeps Elsa: hey… do you feel like sleep over at Lucas’ today? Max: i’m not sleeping for the rest of the week Elsa: okay but, hanging out? Max: ugh. why the hell not Elsa: alright I’ll get ready and then we head out when my parents come home… which is in fifteen minutes if I’m correct. Max: your. Dad. Elsa: I fucking KNEW IT YOU LIKE MY DAD!!! Max: CAN YOU LET ME PROCESS??? Elsa: yeah I’ll process a knife through your THROAT if I catch you looking at my dad funny Max: hey… can you blame me? Elsa: AAGHHHHH!!!
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I don't understand why Gay Mike truthers are called biphobic. It's not that we don't want Mike to be bi or for there to be more bi rep on shows. There just isn't any evidence Mike is bi, and a lot to suggest that he's gay.
Me either. I feel like it’s gotten better lately-ish. Like a year ago it felt like I had to make a disclaimer that I was bi everytime I tried to justify why I think Mike is gay lmao I’m not hating if you think Mike is bi, I just don’t think a lot of things line up with that and I’m tired of the biphobic accusations against people who point it out!! (not talking about every bi Mike truther just to be clear, just the ones who sling weird accusations)
One example I’ve talked about is how a lot of the the bi Mike proof is undone when we look at S2 and see the parallel narrative they created for Dustin and Dart:
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Then we’ve got things like “Our son with a girl?”, “She doesn’t even look like a girl!”, “With different hair, do you think [El] could’ve been Lonnie’s boy?”, “I’ve got an idea—boys only, “one way” (as opposed to the common expression “going both ways”), “It’s not my fault you don’t like girls” (which is weird IMO bc it implies some sort of bisexual supremacy if Mike isn’t gay—like atleast I can still like girls unlike you!!—which could obviously happen irl but doesn’t make sense narratively, like underlying the surface level meaning of Will struggling with the girls being added to the party—namely El—it’s also about Mike’s projection of his own insecurity onto Will, and we know that because Mike brings up the idea of never getting girlfriends in the next breath), and the fact that during his “love” confession Mike could not actually pin point a moment where at the very least he realized that he had a crush on El—instead he quite literally just lied about being in love with her the moment he met her (which some bisexual truthers have tried to deny was a lie, but it’s quite literally canon that Mike was going to send El to Pennhurst the next morning sooo??), and basically none of it makes sense to me as bisexual coding. To me, it makes sense in the context of viewers rewatching the show and being able to be like “omg haha boys only!! we should’ve known he was gay!!”
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musclesandhammering · 9 months
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Spn Opinions That’ll Have Me Burned at the Stake Pt. 2: Electric Boogaloo
I’m back and bitchier than ever. For reference, here’s part 1.
• Season 5 wasn’t that great.
• D*stiel isn’t real, it’s a sucky ship, and that confession scene was just the writers pandering to the rabid deancas fans cause they knew they were the only ones still watching the show lol. And they left it ambiguous enough that they could still say it was meant platonically if they needed to.
• I hate how they watered down both angels and demons post-season 5ish.
• I liked Ruby 1.0 better than Ruby 2.0.
• I hate Honey!Cas. They just did that cause they didn’t know where to take his story from there, needed him out of the way, and thought it would be funny. It was insulting.
• Jack should’ve been played by an actual child so everyone’s abuse of him would resonate with the audience for what it was (casual fans are brain dead and need to be spoon fed).
• Victor Henrikson deserved more time on the show.
• I said it in the last post, but Alex is way more interesting than Claire and should’ve been given the lead role in the wayward sisters storyline instead.
• Dean is canonically straight and for Christ sake if you guys wanted bi rep, there’s about a thousand other characters that are strongly coded or implied to be bisexual (including Sam!) but y’all didn’t focus on them because it wasn’t actually about representation, it was about making it more plausible for your dumb fetishised gay ship to actually happen (spoiler: it didn’t).
• Season 3 and Season 6 were some of the best ones, you guys just don’t have any taste.
• Claire is not Castiel’s daughter and saying she is erases Jimmy and insults her, and even Cas himself acknowledged that on the show.
• Castiel is canonically NOT gay and Misha constantly saying he is is annoying and airheaded. He’s been attracted to women IN THE SHOW and he’s not even really male, so calling him a Gay Man is reductive and just plain wrong. Also, it’s veeery sus that- given how bi/pan folks are even more underrepresented than gay people- that one of the rare times where the bi/pan label actually fits a character BETTER in CANON……. the allies and monosexuals adamantly reject it. Hm.
• “Curing” vampires or werewolves or demons shouldn’t have been a thing.
• The Winchesters cause most of the bad shit that happens and then they just force supernatural beings to fix it for them- tell me again how they’re Super Special Heroes.
• It shouldn’t be possible to make angels human by removing their grace, because (unlike demons, werewolves, etc) they were never human to start with. If you drained me of all my blood, I wouldn’t magically transform into another species, I’d fucking die.
• Making Billie go crazy was dumb.
• Rowena was one of the most interesting and charismatic characters on the whole show- they just didn’t know what to do with her character.
• The archangels, Lilith, and Azazel should’ve been the biggest threats on the show. No other knights of hell, no god and his sister, no Cain, nothing like that. Having every villain just get progressively more overpowered made the show unbelievable and repetitive and annoying.
• The kernel sanders king of hell guy was hot.
• Dean is misogynistic as HELL, homophobic, likes racist porn, is a narcissist, pervs on teen girls, & thinks all non-human people should be exterminated… and that is all CANON.
• Most of John Winchester’s abuse is fanon.
• Fans portraying Cas as a smol bby who colours in colouring books and has a bee plushie is so fucking annoying.
• Instead of having so many gigantic cosmic storylines with god and his sister and alternate dimensions and even the angel and demon tablets, they should’ve just scrapped those and made the stein family and the bmol and the alpha vampire storylines way bigger than they were. Less cosmic stuff, more earth-based stuff.
• They ruined Lucifer’s character post-season 5. Before that, he was more sympathetic and reasonable than Michael. After, he was a spoiled child hurting people for fun.
• Everything from season 7 on is garbage. All of it. There’s bits of goodness here and there but overall seasons 7-15 are trash.
• How the fuck are there actual people who are deangirls and hate Sam?? The space where your brain should be is empty, I swear to god.
• If there was gonna be any lgbt rep in the Wayward Sisters group, it should’ve been Jody and Donna instead of Claire and Kaia. Those two were boring as hell and had zero chemistry or build-up, but Jody/Donna had plenty of chemistry and was very believable.
• Meg has the best and most realistic redemption arc of anyone on the show.
• Chuck was not likeable or charismatic enough to carry off as big of a villain arc as they gave him. Also that whole thing was stupid and WAY too Out There.
• All the angels should’ve been aroace. All the demons should’ve been pan.
• I stanned Cole so hard up until he changed his mind about hating Dean. That was disappointing.
• Sam went through the same shitty childhood Dean did (plus Bonus Abuse on top of it) and he didn’t turn out Like That.
• I cannot think of a single person that was asking for a spin-off about the Winchester family, like that has to be the most boring thing.
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