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rrriiight i was thinking of a hualian x reader thing. the reader is a bit cold and apathetic but caring of two certain people and had been all the way through with hualian like for example, had served xie lian when he was still a prince or helped hong er from time to time. but somehow they just vanished and never came back.
surprise surprise, whilst hualian and some other gods were on a mission, they got attacked let’s say (or were in danger) and guess who came to save them? reader! and thats when it clicks for hualian. that was you. you weren’t gone. so- they never let you get away ever again.
just an idea that came to mind :D
In the Back of Your Mind
Hua Cheng x gn!reader x Xie Lian
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I'm so sorry it took so long! I try to put my life updates in my bio, but I've been very busy moving houses! So I'm rlly sorry and I hope this is good!
I didn't know if you wanted reader to be a ghost or a god but I made them a ghost
Because gods don't usually disappear for like ever? Idk uhm if you don't like that just tell me and I'll edit it!
Made up a scenario that puts Xie Lian and Hua Cheng at a disadvantage
Ignore grammar mistakes
Slight OOC!!!
Made up details about reader and their life
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Xie Lian and Hua Cheng are very happy with their relationship and their life
But something's missing
Someone's missing
They haven't seen you in a very, very long time
It's been centuries actually and you still haven't shown up
But they haven't forgotten you, even though you've been missing or maybe even dead they still think about you in the back of their head.
Xie Lian misses you dearly
You had served Xie Lian during XianLe and had always been by his side.
You took your job seriously and it was your first priority to keep Xie Lian happy
You served him well and fought for him too
Your loyalty to Xie Lian was deep and everyone could see it
Everyone knew you loved him besides Xie Lian of course.
Because it was obvious! You wouldn't utter a word to anyone else
Your presence was a cold force to anyone besides Xie Lian
You were always quick to create space with anyone who came near him too.
It seemed like you couldn't care less for anyone else's problems but Xie Lian's.
Not that it mattered to you, as long as you could stay by his side it didn't matter what you were
Whether you were his servant or guard, whether you were next to him or below him, whether he used you as a step or tool.
You never minded, you'd do anything for him even if he wouldn't do those things.
You stayed by his side when Mu Qing and Feng Xin disappeare
You stayed when his palace fell
When his parents died
When Xie Lian started on a bad path
When he turned meaner, rougher, and angrier so that he wouldn't be hurt by the world again
When he grieved because he had been done wrong
You stayed with Xie Lian for as long as you could, and you loved him deeply every second of it.
But then someone took you from Xie Lian.
You never came back
Hua Cheng misses you just as dearly.
You took care of Xie Lian so well and then you just disappeared
When Hong er as caught by Xie Lian obviously he couldn't take care of Hong er by himself
But when Xie Lian was busy, everyone else was too disgusted to touch him
And Hong er didn't want to be in anyone else's arms either
You were different though, even though you were a servant like Mu Qing and Feng Xin you reacted differently
You held Hong er gently, as if the mongrel child would fall to pieces in your arms
You wouldn't let anyone touch him or try to kick him out of the palace
Always quick, you would settle a cold glare on someone if they tried to pull Hong er from your arms
Taking care of Hong er was just as serious as taking care of Xie Lian to you
You spent a lot of time with His Cheng like that
So after Hua Cheng's first death he searched and searched and searched
He never found the two of you
When Hua Cheng had finally found Xie Lian he was so excited to finally see you both again!
Even though he doesn't want to reveal his secret just yet, he hopes the two of you won't find him disgusting for his actions
But. . . You weren't there.
Don't get him wrong Hua Cheng is very happy to see one of the loves of his life after searching so long but you have never left Xie Lian's side so where are you?
Xie Lian and Hua Cheng continued their relationship and their story without you
Which was unfortunate but what could they do?
They had both tried to search for you and found you no where
Things are always changing though
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It was just another mission, and it should've been quick and easy. Especially since Xie Lian and Hua Cheng tagged along. Hua Cheng was only here for Xie Lian though, no one else. The mission didn't go smoothly though.
Missions rarely go smoothly when you're in the dark woods, with lots of monsters, and a heavy fog covers the forest. Not smooth at all when lower gods are bickering with Hua Cheng and Xie Lian.
They all got lost and wherever they ended up in these dark woods, had a block on the arrays. Xie Lian can't call for help or reach the heavens and neither can the other gods. What's worse! Powers are blocked too! It's like they've all stumbled upon an area of complete silence as if they were muted.
So even Hua Cheng is struggling a little bit right? Can't break the blocking energy source if you can't find it! Of course the gods all split up, leaving Xie Lian and Hua Cheng alone. It doesn't matter to Hua Cheng if his powers have been weakened or not he'll still do everything he can to protect Xie Lian from the monsters in the woods.
The more time Xie Lian and Hua Cheng stand around in the fog the more things they see. The deeper they go, the thicker the fog gets. And the thick the fog gets the more people they start to see the more things they start to see. It's not a good thing though, it's all illusions and they figured that out quickly when Hua Cheng swipes at a humanoid figure that looks just like Xie Lian.
Xie Lian doesn't have the time to solve the problem because him and Hua Cheng have a big possibility of being hurt right now. E-ming and rouye refuse to move. Hua Cheng will happily use his body and hands to defend Xie Lian if he has to though. Xie Lian says that's silly and chooses to run, dragging Hua Cheng along with him. The foggy ghosts only chase, and it's hard to run in such thick fog.
In fact the fog is so thick that eventually after running so long the ghosts give up on running after them. Xie Lian thought they were safe now but when he looks back Hua Cheng is gone.
Xie Lian shouts for him and tries to look around but the more he looks around the fog the more humanoid figures he sees. they're just. . . Fog. If Xie Lian could see Hua Cheng right now and he still wouldn't know if it was the real one.
The fog is dangerous, creating illusions of people Xie Lian already knows or things from his past, trying to trick him. He's only more lost and he doesn't know how to get out of this mess. It's actually very stressful, how does the fog know all these things, how is it forming the people he used to know and love?
Hua Cheng is in the same predicament. He wanders around the fog and at one point he thought he found Xie Lian again but when his hand wrapped around Xie Lian's arm, the figure turned in vapor. They're both lost. They're both being surrounded by crowds of foggy figures.
Just before the foggy figures are able to touch them the fog disperses though. A loud screech Is heard in the air, a sudden cold breeze blowing past Xie Lian and Hua Cheng, then the fog settles down. It turns out they weren't that far from each other at all and Xie Lian has never run into Hua Cheng's arms faster.
When they both see a foggy figure again they get nervous. One, because the fog has dispersed so they thought they were safe now. Two, it looks like you. Xie Lian already hates the fog he's already seen awful things but he doesn't want to see you like this. Not the fake you.
He can't help but tear up when 'you' try to urge him to come forward, but with the fog gone so is the blocked energy. Xie Lian shoots rouye out, trying to make the awful sight go away by rouye wraps around a surprisingly very sturdy wrist. You grip on rouye and pull Xie Lian forward a little, uttering a small "Dianxia, Hong er"
They know it's you, even though it seems so unbelievable. Xie Lian is literally jumping on you and knocking you to the ground. Hua Cheng manages to act a little more suave but he'd be a liar to say he isn't astonished. It's just a big pile of tears, embraces, and "I love you's".
Xie Lian and Hua Cheng waste no time bringing you home, they cling on to you desperately. Even if you just want to explore Paradise Manor it doesn't matter, both of them are at your side. They absolutely refuse to let you go. As if they're scared, if they look away you'll vanish again. Xie Lian and Hua Cheng just won't let that happen! They love you very much and they've missed out many years of loving and caring for you. They plan to repay all the missed affections
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Uhhhh here it is! I hope it's good 🤔 honestly I feel a little eh about this but let me know what y'all think 🖤I don't know if this is exactly what you were imagining anon but if it wasn't this make another submission in like deeper, exact details and I'll try again okay!
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citronverveine · 6 months
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xie lian: cultivation and emotional repression -> delayed trauma reaction
cw non-descriptive talk about self-harm for the first few paragraphs (really nothing graphic, just mentions)
i was thinking about whether xie lian would self-harm or not in canonverse (he does harm himself in many ways but i was thinking of our contemporary trend of self-harming through cutting) and i thought he probably wouldn't since it probably wouldn't fit in the path he follows.
I think what reminded me of this was the funny subtitle in the new episode (S2 E01) "I can't drink too much or I'll go crazy" (something like that). the phrasing is funny so i remembered it. We tend to focus a lot on the sexual abstainance of his path, but his path is generally about avoiding vices and keeping his heart and mind still as a lake. or something. promiscuity and alcohol are forbidden, but so are other drugs, so is gambling, and i wouldn't be surprised if harming himself on purpose was forbidden too.
of course, xie lian repeatedly harms himself on purpose, quite a lot and quite deeply, but he always somewhat has an excuse, it's never simply gratuitous. there's always a reason: he stabs himself to escape the land of the tender, he almost swallows a sword when trying to catch the fetus spirit, he's hurt by eming when he jumps between lqq and hua cheng, there are probably other examples we could find, but it's never simply because he wants the pain.
so anyway. i came to the conclusion that harming himself on purpose probably counted as a not very in touch with his cultivation, and from then on wondered about his overall mental health. the thing about xie lian is that he is constantly detached from his... past slash emotions. he rationally knows things but he keeps them at a distance (there is a lot to be said about this and his relationship with hua cheng, from start to finish, but i'll keep this for another time).
I was thinking about how his cultivation most likely played a role in that. to be honest, it's not a bad thing at all, because going through the things he went through (even besides/after book 4), anyone else would have gone insane. but he didn't.
i always wondered about why exactly xie lian didn't give up on his cultivation rules while in banishment. because he wasn't cultivating anymore. he could have stopped following the rules. but he didn't. i always found that very interesting. i came up with several possible reasons, but i could add a new one to the list: maybe it was something that helped him not go insane.
he did not actively cultivate, but following the rules and doing his best to keep his spirit pure might have "helped" him repress the... well, the trauma. it's also a natural reaction, to be honest, but because xie lian cultivates, i think it's interesting to think about how it could have impacted this process.
Anyway. So to sum it up, I wondered about whether Xie Lian could self-harm or not, came with the conclusion that he couldn't and that cultivation also led to emotional repression (to keep a pure mind), and now, my final point:
What if the moment Xie Lian breaks his cultivation is also the moment he starts feeling all of his repressed emotions?
something very common in traumatized people is that they start feeling the effects of trauma or realizing the extent of their trauma once they are out of the situation. i always thought this would be the case with xie lian - once hua cheng is back, all is back to normal, he can live a happy life, and boom, the weight of everything that has ever happened to him gets in the way (and they sort it out, of course), but I never knew what would be the exact trigger, when it could start exactly.
now that i made the link between cultivation and repression, i definitely think it would be interesting to see Xie Lian break his cultivation, have sex with Hua Cheng, maybe marking the beginning of their married life, and then from then on, as he lets go gradually, he starts feeling the mental effects. I thought he could even think it was a bad idea, get worried about the effect of breaking his cultivation, wondering what is happening to him. they would research and eventually realize - maybe as Xie Lian processes it a bit more - that it's just a natural reaction.
i think that's all i wanted to say! this was quite long but i thought it was interesting. let me know your thoughts on this, whether you agree or not. disclaimer that I'm not chinese and do not know enough about chinese culture/philosophy to really know if this interpretation is really correct (mostly the talk about cultivation) (although it is undeniable that xie lian's cultivation in tgcf has EffectsTM on him) (maybe that will be for another post)
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lasbiarez · 1 month
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Cat Owner Hua Cheng AU
This is really long BUT HEAR ME OUT
Modern setting: Hua Cheng lives alone in an apartment and he hates life, hates his job, hates his neighbours, and literally everyone he meets. He can't get out of bed most days except to go to work and he doesn't have any friends to talk to
One day he finds this filthy cat in his room who's taking shelter from the rain. The cat has a name tag that reads: Xie Lian
Hua Cheng really wants to kick this cat out, but it's still raining so he supposes Xie Lian can stay until the rain stops. Which took longer than he anticipated, but he won't add animal cruelty to his many list of horrible actions by throwing it back in the rain
While waiting Hua Cheng might as well clean this cat up so it doesn't get mud everywhere! The cat sits still as he scrubs a concerning amount of dirt off of it. He realises that its fur is,,, really soft??? Huh.
Despite being relatively well mannered for a cat it's flighty and hides a lot, flinching and running away at any loud noises. Hua Cheng is more than happy to be left alone
The rain eventually stops. By then Xie Lian is already sleeping so Hua Cheng can't really just kick it out, right? Fine, it can stay a little longer. ONLY until it wakes up!
The cat wakes up the next day, by then Hua Cheng needs to go to work. He can handle Xie Lian AFTER work, surely. But once he got home he was too tired to do that, so the cat gets to stay another day
Three days passed. Hua Cheng can't just leave this cat to starve or eat whatever leftover is in the fridge, that's basically chipping away his own ration of food to eat! He buys cat food
A week passed. Hua Cheng came back from work stressed out of his mind. Xie Lian seems to notice this and decides to sit on his lap. He purrs. Hua Cheng doesn't know how to move him and fumbles around awkwardly in his seat before eventually petting him. Okay. Maybe this cat is a little bit cute
A week and a half in, Hua Cheng notices this cat is Insane
Xie Lian is clumsy and Hua Cheng has started to wonder wether this cat enjoys endangering his own life on purpose. He knocks over vases and then jumps down on the shards, slips on the floor when he runs around, crashes into walls, bites cables, jumps off multiple story buildings
Hua Cheng is surprised that this cat is still alive!
But... it's a change of pace, it's certainly a motivation to get out of bed every morning and make sure he hasn't accidentally killed himself. He's Surely Not worried about the cat's safety, he just gets a little fussy whenever Xie Lian almost walks into traffic, fretting over whatever poisonous thing Xie Lian decides to put into his mouth this time. But that's IT. He Does Not Care
...He bought a carpet for Xie Lian so he doesn't keep slipping when he runs around
Three weeks in Hua Cheng brings Xie Lian to the vet. Xie Lian is scared of needles and hisses at the doctor, Hua Cheng laughs at the display. That's probably the first genuine laugh he had in years
He's... leaving the house more often now to bring Xie Lian on walks and buy cat food and toys. Maybe he enjoys the many detours Xie Lian would accidentally drag him to, a change of scenery once in awhile is good for him—He needs the exercise anyway.
Hua Cheng befriends a pet shop owner. He thinks liking fish out of literally any other animal is a little weird, but He Xuan's a decent guy to talk to when he's bored
A month later Xie Lian gained weight and isn't as flighty as before, he approaches Hua Cheng more often and demands (meows at him and lightly scratches his thighs) for his attention. Maybe Hua Cheng chuckles a bit whenever he does
It also doesn't slip his attention that despite being very well mannered and polite Xie Lian does not do as he's told. Ever. He'd actually do the complete opposite of what Hua Cheng tells him to do and then look at him innocenly like he didn't know what he did wrong
Hua Cheng finds it endearing
A month and a half in. Dry cat food has been upgraded to various meats and maybe a couple of fancy cat meals, Xie Lian has his own scratch post and towers to climb on and jump safely from. Xie Lian also gets his own bed, but more often than not sleeps curled up against Hua Cheng
Two months in... Hua Cheng bought a cat backpack... he starts bringing Xie Lian to work
His coworkers adores Xie Lian. Coos at him, pets him. Hua Cheng grows slightly protective over the cat, threatens anyone who so much as touches the cat wrong. He gets snappy and quick to anger whenever someone mistreats Xie Lian, but he no longer feels absolutely unapproachable with such a cute cat by his side
Some of his coworkers... actually likes him. Hm.
Three months later Xie Lian comes over whenever Hua Cheng calls for him. Hua Cheng successfully made his apartment room cat friendly. Xie Lian no longer accidentally set his fur on fire trying to watch Hua Cheng cook
Four months in. Xia Lian accidentally licks Hua Cheng's finger while feeding. Hua Cheng realises he would die for this cat
A week after Hua Cheng finally admits that he cares about this cat and he'd watch the world burn if something happened to him this Random Man (/neg!) shows up at his door, looking for Xie Lian. How dare he not take care of this cat for months and now demanding him to be returned!
The man asked very nicely, Hua Cheng is just being dramatic
Hua Cheng is obviously defensive about this. He accuses the man with pet negligence and is very unpleasant and rude the entire conversation, dissing the man's lack of style, insulting his eyebags and dishevelled look. The man doesn't seem to mind and actually looks... resigned towards Hua Cheng's verbal assault
Until the man introduces himself as Xie Lian
"...You named your cat after yourself?" Hua Cheng was ready to poke at this man's apparent self importance and vanity
Human Xie Lian laughs awkwardly, "No, he's actually my cousin's cat but he doesn't take care of him very well. He thought it would be funny to name the cat after me."
...okay, Hua Cheng isn't suddenly going to feel bad for the man just because his cousin makes fun of him. The man still didn't take care of cat Xie Lian when it's apparent that he should step up!
"—And I really should take better care of him, but I was in a car accident and got into a coma for a few months. I just got out this week so I've been looking for him while catching up with my own work. I'm sorry for the inconvenience." Xie Lian continues like he's talking about the weather, sounding... weirdly sheepish for a man who was in a life threatening situation
Oh... OH. Now Hua Cheng feels a little bad for being so unreasonable considering the man was literally dying and apologising about it
Hua Cheng sighs, opens his door wider, and says, "Let's talk about this inside."
"Of course, I'm sorry again—"
That's when human Xie Lian realises Hua Cheng's room is filled wall to wall with cat things, he has portraits of cat Xie Lian on every furniture—a lot of them. It should be concerning it this point, but human Xie Lian just chuckles, albeit awkwardly
"You seem to be attached to him..."
Then they get joint custody over this cat, they slowly fall in love, then they got together and Xie Lian moves in
Hua Cheng, with all seriousness, replies calmly, "I will kill you if you try to take him away from me."
The end!
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en-d-d · 4 days
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So, this is my first post, so hello everyone! I don't really know how to properly navigate this platform just yet, but I'm sure I will figure it out, so please bear with me.
Having said that, unfortunately, I've come here today to rant a little on social media about things that make me borderline insane just from listening to. Most specifically, from MTXT's works. (Because if I ever see another wrong characterization for those fictional people I've became very attached to, I'm actually going to go mad.)
(This is not meant to be an attack of any sorts, I'm just a teenager on social media pulling my nerves into writing because who knows, maybe I can finally be at peace then.)
Let's start then!
Xie Lian is not owo small cutie or sum, and if I hear that one time... my man may be short, but he could fight off almost anyone, just thanos clapping people out of existence. He's also very insane and very horny about the Calamity attached to his hip. My guy is pretty smart and also just kinda gives patient auntie vibes (you know, that auntie that can see beyond everyone's bull but choses not to).
And if I already started with TGCF, may as well continue with it. Hua Cheng is a switch and you can't convince me otherwise. (If his Dianxia wanted to top, he would be as elated as he would be if Dianxia wanted to bottom. My man doesn't care.)
Luo Binge being referred as a white lotus and people not knowing what it means ("In Chinese internet novels, the term "white lotus" refers to a character who appears innocent, naive, and pure on the surface but uses this reputation to backstab, blame, or sling mud on others.") (I believe maybe people confuse this with the other meanings of the white lotus, like, actually naive or pure in character, but those are obliviously not what they mean in the chinese novels)
Shen Yuan is Kim Dokja, but chinese (or maybe KD is SY but korean)
Lan Wangji did not like Wei Wuxian despite him being 'evil', he loved him exactly because he isn't evil. I can't stress this enough. If wwx was a actually bad person, lwj would not hesitate to cut his head off and be done with the matter. Whenever I see someone saying something about him liking wwx even if he's evil, I'm slowly loosing my mind, bcz no, lwj is not such a shallow person, to be attracted to someone based purely on looks (and we do know this bcz he loves wwx in mxy's body just as much as he loved him in his original body.)
Now, we're moving into a territory I like exploring. I just want to start this off saying that I don't like Jiang Wanyin. I just don't care very much about him and I find him annoying as a person. With that being said, I'm a little miffed with fellow jc dislikers bcz they sometimes invent some things up about him or such things. Like. Man, you do not need to invent things to hate abt him, there are already plenty of things you can hate abt him. I'm pretty unbiased when it comes to actual judgements abt others. I will protect someone if the points made abt them is incorrect as much as I will point out every thing they actually did bad.
And the next point is still abt jc (wow, what a surprise) just bcz, honest to god, his fans are annoying. I've said it. A lot of y'all are hella annoying. The single ones I don't find bad are those that like him just bcz of how bad of a person he is. I can respect that. What I can't respect is another owo he's innocent and traumatized and a tsundere and everything is wwx's fault owo jc fan. Fam, did we read the same book, or has media really rotten our colective brain that much??
(I believe I have more comments on this jc topic, but my brain is starting to hurt.)
And the last one is Wei Wuxian, probably the most controversial character in all of MTXT's novels. First of all, I have to be clear about this, but in all of this post, I'm purely referring to the characters from the books, not the other adaptations. This is important, bcz the adaptations further skewed wwx's image in the fandom.
I have saved him for least because of just how much things tick me off in this fandom when discussing wwx in special.
Disclaimer that I sincerely believe that you should enjoy and do art and fanfiction of characters however you want. If you want wwx to be, idk, a demon that terrorizes people and breaks lwj's heart and then jc comes and saves the situation from the evil patriarch and then french kisses Lan Xichen, then go ahead, idc (Unless you say he's owo, you have no excuse that would allow you to do that unless you're a child, and if you are, then you shouldn't even be here). But I draw the line when people lie about canon characterizations.
And there is just so much misconceptions on wwx's character that I would need an essay just to compose a list of them. They range from huge details that somehow miss people like how their neurons miss firing, to small details, like his handwriting (I believe the novel said it was cursive, not messy, like how almost all the fandom has apparently mutually agreed on. Do corect me if I'm wrong on this, some things are lost from translation to translation)
I will be discussing just some of them here. Maybe I will do another post where I go in more detail, we will see.
ADHD Wei Wuxian. The people that believe wwx has ADHD should probably reread the novel, bcz that characterization comes mostly from CQL. In the novel, wwx is a very chill guy that can stay in one place perfectly fine. I will not go into more details, just read the novel.
Wei Wuxian is the reason for the Jiang's collapse. Bull statement, everytime I see it, well, you already know already. If you know a little politics, you would realize the Jiangs were next on the list for sure. Why, you would ask. The Lans already burnt themselves to the ground. The Nies have a fortress for a sect. The Jins are almost-not-exactly allies with the Wens. Now, guess who is the most unfavorably positioned gentry sect (lakes are not a good strategic spot), with lax protection (how did the Wens just march in like that like what) and a little too carele leader (Jiang Fenmiang really thought the Wens will give them back the swords after that whole disaster that was the indoctrination? Really??). Oh! I think I know who it is! And maybe you guessed it too. Glad we're on the same page.
Now, wwx being the reason why jc lost his core. Very many people already came to their own conclusion on why jc gave himself up. Brotherly affection, suicidal thoughts or just straight up idiocy. Whatever you believe, it's fine with me (but I do have a brother and I can assure you, wwx and jc never really seemed like brothers to me. They are a little too far to the left to be considered brothers, but this is my opinion, take it however you will). So, was it wwx's fault?
We're finally getting into the juicy stuff. The blame game. I hate it with my being, still, as long as I'm in fandoms, I must persist. My answer is yes & no. Did wwx deliberately made it so jc would be captured? Of course not. Did it still happened? Unfortunately, yes. To go deeper, we will look a little at fate. There are some things that are outside of our control. As much as we prepare, some things will still blow us over. So the definite answer is no. Jc made the decision to be seen by the Wens. It might sound callous , but the decisions you make are yours, even if you protect someone's life or not. Wwx did not ask to be protected. In conclusions, it's not his fault.
And that is a very good statement to make, seeing as we got to the core transfer. People often criticize wwx for giving non-consensualy his core to jc. I always thought it as a weird thing to hate him about, but whatever, I still shall address it. I will start with an exemple. If you loved someone very much, and they would die if they don't get, idk, a new arm (maybe think of something less inconspicuous, but you understand the ideea) they would die. You are the single person that can do it. But you're sure that if someone told your loved one that you would give it, they would refuze it. Are you still going to give your arm? Will you let your loved one die? Knowing that you can help?
And for those that say jc was not on the brink of death. He was suicidal. He would not have resisted a week with the shame of inferiority plus all the trauma that the Lotus Pier massacre was, combined. 'Regaining' his core might have actually made him feel better, like he beat the odds, like he has another chance. That's also why wwx never told him he gave him his core. Bcz he knew jc would not take it easy, finding out that all his accomplishments were thanks to wwx's sacrifice. Because jc has a big ego that's clearly evident through the story.
Anyways, let's continue.
Ghostly Cultivation. It's more popularity used the Demonic Cultivation term, but they are not the same think for Christ's sake. Modao Zushi does mean The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, however the title is for click bait. In the actual novel, I believe wwx talks abt ghostly cultivation, not demonic. It was probably lost in translations.
I don't think I need to explain how wwx needed guidao to escape the Burial Mounds, so at least half of my job is already done. Now I go into dangerous territory however, bcz guidao is not expended upon. Still, I would rather listen to wwx when it's about, you know, the path he himself created?
To explain my stance, we would need to go deeper into the novel's points. A novel can have multiple themes, ranging from obvious ones, like love, family, to obscure ones, like, the importance of standing up for oneself (not the best exemple, but I believe y'all understand what I mean).
I'm someone that loves thinking abt MDZS. It's my dearest. So, I tend to analyze it pretty often. And the themes I usually get are things like 'the danger of hearsay and mob mentality', 'the importance of standing true to your ideals', 'the inherit unpredictability of life' and so on, and so on.
Anyways, what does that have to do with guidao? Well, everything, I believe. The MDZS world has a mentality resembling that of the curent China. Or well, the China of when MXTX wrote the novel. If you know some history, I believe you can connect the similarities. What does that mean then?
Wwx is someone that does not fallow the path set by the ancestors. He creates his own. When the cultivators see that, they are revolted. Becouse everything that strays from the 'right' path must surely be evil. And so, after Wen Ruohan, the Jins paint him as the new anarchist, and the rest is history.
Now, I would actually love to continue, but I've been typing nonstop for hours now, I need to stop. I will continue my points in another post, bcz I still have a lot of them.
Thanks for reading, and have a wonderful day 💐
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yeyayeya · 3 months
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I’ve wanted to make this post for a while but wanted to wait until the dub was officially over so
My Final Thoughts on the TGCF Season 2 English Dub
Howard Wang as Xie Lian is fucking perfect. Every single time he spoke it just, I don’t know how to properly put it into words, except it is so well done?? But when XL started basically having a mental breakdown in front of Hua Cheng after Lang Qianqiu found out about the truth of the Gilded Banquet, holy fuck did the emotions just hit me in the feels. The scream and he emotional fatigue after? Xie Lian’s voice is perfection omg
Shoutout to James Cheek for just voicing the gayest character ever (Hua Cheng) and writing the gayest script for TGCF. While I liked his voice in the first season, but I wasn’t the biggest fan of it. It wasn’t until the second season where almost everything improved, and James’s voice for Hua Cheng? *chef’s kiss*. Okay but at least tone down the gayness a bit. And seeing someone who has read the novel and having little easter eggs for the novel readers for them to go insane over is incredible. I’m going to miss his voice in Season 3 since they’re going to have to cast someone else as Hong’er, but that’s ok.
Male and Female Shi Qingxuan: OMG??? Perfect casting. I just know they both put so much effort into them and I am eternally grateful. They just sound like the best of friends (they are). Every single line from them was so fucking iconic, which is accurate to the Wind Master’s character. I love both their voices so much you don’t understand.
Lang Qianqiu: AAHHHHH. My son, my boy, they gave him justice and I am so happy. First read through of TGCF, I only cared for HuaLian, but reading it again has made me appreciate and fall in love with the side characters, with Lang Qianqiu being one of them. I’ll say it did take a bit for me to adjust to it, but he sounds so much like an anime protagonist that I am ok with it. Another perfect casting. I’m going to be so fucking sad that he won’t appear for such a long time, and while he does get brought up occasionally, his last appearance is going to be the finale. I’ll miss you my son 😔
Jun Wu: ASDFGHJKL. He sounds like such a manipulative/toxic ex and a father figure at the same time. wtf. But his voice is so sexy tho. I don’t like it but I do. And I thought his original Chinese voice was hot, and then the English one goes and surprises me. I hate that I love it
Qi Rong: Perfection, glorious, fucking incredible. HIS VA IS PERFECT. Original was slaying so hard, and English? Fucking killing it. He was actually the one I was looking forward to the most, and he 👏 did 👏 not👏 disappoint. I won’t get over the perfect casting. Ever. The crazy and mad laughs? The insults I’ve never heard about but decided to keep in mind? Literally everything. I’m sorry I can’t get over how great his voice is
Feng Xin and Mu Qing (of course together): I am so biased towards Lucien Dodge, so I immediately loved his voice for him. He slaying that tsundere cat boy vibe so well. I will admit that his voice made me like his character more tbh. Ok but Feng Xin’s? Every time I hear it, I always need at least 30 seconds to get used to it. Idk why. I don’t hate it, and I actually love it, but he sounds so much like a dad it’s so funny. I still love him tho.
Pei Ming: 😳. No but that was actually my reaction to his voice. Why is every single god’s voice so hot. Please calm down. I really did not like Pei Ming at first but damn. I can actually understand why every single woman went weak with him.
Ling Wen: While she didn’t get as much dialogue this season, I’ll still count her. I’ve heard some drama relating to her voice actress from a while back but I’m not bringing it up rn. But her English voice is almost exactly the same as the original, just, different languages of course. She has such a unique voice and it’s quite pleasing to hear. She also sounds a bit like Siri but it fits her character
Other major characters that got only a few lines but still slayed their roles (Ming Yi, Pei Xiu, Jian Lan, Yin Yu): Hello?? Can I be patient to hear their voices again? Probably not, but please I need more of them. Ming Yi sounded hot since he took voice lessons from Hua Cheng, Pei Xiu sounded like such a little wet cat (wtf where did this crush on him come from), Jian Lan slayed because she is such an underrated queen, and Yin Yu? I WAS NOT EXPECTING A DEEP VOICE FROM WTF. I will say I do prefer his Chinese VA a little more due to it being more in character with him sounding soft and somewhat tired. But I enjoy his confident and announcing voice. They should keep him for the QuanYin flashbacks.
All in all, perfect cast. I don’t have twitter/X but I see things from the VA’s from time to time. And seeing them interact with the fandom and trying to give more to their characters makes me so happy. I just desperately need for more of the characters to have voices (aka Shi Wudu, Quan Yizhen, Mei Nianqing, Yushi Huang, Male!Ling Wen, White-No-Face). Give me more please.
Please check out the dub it’s so fucking great.
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spockandawe · 3 months
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I'm going to have full cohesive pitches for these books as individual experiences sometime soon, i swear, but since I 1) just finished rereading thousand autumns (first time where it wasn't a third mtl), 2) am rereading peerless for the first time in years, and 3) am reading sleuth of the ming dynasty for the first time ever, I've been thinking a LOT about meng xi shi as an author and trying to scrape together my thoughts. Because I think she's really stunningly good! She's one of those authors whose skill just SHINES through, even when a translation is weak, and that's always something so fascinating to me.
But at the same time, i have a harder time raving about her books than most of my other faves. Trying to pitch thousand autumns to friends was something I really struggled with! The other two are easier, by nature of their central dynamics, while yan wushi cranks this one up to nightmare difficulty mode. But I think that it also provides an example of what I might be having to recalibrate for.
Like, I'm an easy binch. If Hua Cheng is leaving a necklace for Xie Lian early on, or Luo Binghe is noticing Shen Qingqiu's leaves right at the beginning of their books, I'm hootin and hollerin, I'm drumming my heels on the floor. And Meng Xi Shi is NOT about that instant gratification lifestyle. We're not having dessert before dinner, and there is some INTRICATE plot shit happening in all these books that is not getting muscled aside for indulgent ship time.
I'm absolutely certain it's a conscious choice, and one i respect the hell out of, especially since all of these books have the characters woven in with actual historical figures, which always manages yo take me by surprise. I assume details like keeping a wholeass imperial prince secret until he's five are fictional embellishment, but... nope! Actual history! The SCOPE of these plots and the politics they all muck around with means that there are limits to how much an author could spend time on ship bait without trivializing the central conflict. As much as i enjoyed golden stage, i never cared about the politics. And not caring about the politics in meng xi shi's work would be jettisoning SO much nutritional content.
And, that's not to say that there's NOTHING indulgent for me in the earlier parts! Yan Wushi starts delightedly letting people assume he's plowing Shen Qiao as soon as they start traveling together, Feng Xiao spends the second mystery of Peerless totally disguised as Cui Buqu's wife and fighting with him as "this wife", and Sui Zhou and Tang Fan start straight-up cohabiting POSTHASTE. And then. Meng xi shi makes you wait for it.
This isn't bad! The delayed gratification is very GOOD! The tension is delectable. The feeling of 'oh come on now you're just dragging this out on purpose' is mitigated by having characters drag things out in character. Shen Qiao's sense of responsibility pulls him towards Yan Wushi, and then away from Yan Wushi (and yan wushi is also Helping sfhfgdf). Feng Xiao doesn't move THAT fast, but Cui Buqu will Literally Die before he'll admit he has tender feelings. And Tang Fan is textually scared to lose what he has platonically with Sui Zhou by stepping into unknown territory. I'm still howling OH COME ON, but it transmutes into something directed at the characters, not the author.
And the plots we're making space for like this are hefty bois. All of them have heavy political themes, where in my usual diet, i would reluctantly accept a little politics on the side in my ancient chinese fantasy meal. And each of these books has baited me further into caring about mundane politics 😂 In Thousand Autumns, it's very much a balance between lavishly described fantasy martial arts extravaganza and big politics enhanced by the martial arts extravaganza. Peerless, we're down one martial artist in the lead characters, so there's more non-fighting politics happening (and both characters are secret police commanders), but at least one of my boys floats around playing magic music on his guqin. Fourteenth Year Of Chenghua? Goddamn, I'm reading this thing and I'm in the THROES over ancient chinese imperial office politics, like oh noooo oh my god HOW COULD THEY DEMOTE HIM AT A TIME LIKE THIS, fffff, who can possibly intercede with the emepror now-- And i have NO idea how i reached this point, this is so funny to me.
I do think it says a lot for all three of these that they won me over so hard despite not being as tailored to my personal tastes as something like mxtx! I do love all them to pieces. But it's something like... Digging in at the earlier, slower stages of these books was a hell of a struggle. One that paid off, but i worry about people bouncing off them! Something I've said about thousand autumns (and will say again) is that it's a book that asks for a lot of trust from readers. Some of that is PURELY down to yan wushi, but the structure and pace doesn't make that easy. I do think that the trust is repaid by the end, at least in terms of my reading experience, but it makes me worry! I do want people to read these!
Actually that brings me to the last big strong point I want to mention before i get back to reading: the character writing. Because GODDAMN, the character writing. It both contributes to the slow start in these books, I think, but also MASSIVELY enriches the emotional payout as they progress.
Yan Wushi is one of the funniest, most obnoxious characters of all time! He's also cruel, demanding, and overbearing, and a strong, vivid personality like that takes real time and effort to develop. The beginning of the book looks like it could slip into misery porn + stockholm syndrome healing cock = i guess this is a healthy relationship now. And it doesn't! But it's hard to tell how it WILL go, and that makes it hard to commit to a tome like this. Feng Xiao is comparably obnoxious and hilarious, but Cui Buqu is closed up tight as a clam, and both of them deal in secrets professionally, it is HARD to start accessing any hints of emotional sincerity in either of them. And Tang Fan and Sui Zhou are both junior government officials, early in their careers in a volatile work environment, and they present in a pretty reserved, professional way at first, and the subtler/goofier character notes take time and intimacy to properly manifest. wang zhi on the other hand--
I recommend these books! I really recommend them! I don't want to be underwhelming people with 'oh, you won't like it at first, but JUST YOU WAIT.' Because I did like them at first. They didnt elevete me to the same flailing emotional THROES as some novels, but the quiet rich flavor of the relationships in these are FABULOUS. And the sheer scope of the plots she pulls off, I mean, holy shit. I'm not underwhelmed by these books at all, I'm more likely to get overwhelmed, there's a reason I've been savoring the latest reading experience. I like them a lot! I like meng xi shi as a lot! In the sliver of cnovels that I've sampled, her books are doing some really cool things i haven't seen anyone else pull off, especially with such aplomb. I didn't start out LOOKING for books like that, but I'm still really, really glad i found them, and I do highly recommend them, just in general. I'll figure out how to pitch them individually soon.
*holds probably over 1.5M words of meng xi shi tomes* I Just Think She's Neat
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zarasu · 1 year
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Talked with @/thecheeseboi about shapeshifter Hua Cheng whose animal form is a huge black maine coon.
Maybe it's a modern AU and hualian have never met before so, as a teenager, HC decides that he's done with everything and decides to live as a stray cat permanently.
A few years later, he meets beggar XL and they immediately grow close.
At first, XL is concerned. He's pretty sure maine coons aren't usually strays; what if someone thinks he's stolen it? And how is he supposed to feed a cat that size?
But to his surprise, San Lang the cat seems to be able to feed himself just fine, often going off to hunt and even bringing perfectly edible human food back for XL.
He's too hungry to care where it came from.
Moreover, San Lang is also unusually intelligent. During XL's street performances, he starts to do little tricks. The spectators are delighted and XL earns more than ever.
Then, a few months later, XL gets into a scuffle with some other beggars and someone pulls a knife on him.
In a flash, HC transforms back into a human for the first time in years and defends XL until his assailants run away.
Before XL can say anything, HC transforms back into a cat and pretends that nothing happened.
Over the next few days, they have an ongoing and very one-sided discussion in which XL tries to convince HC to turn back into a human since XL now knows that he's a shapeshifter anyway, while HC calmly grooms himself and ignores him.
But, eventually, HC grows comfortable enough with him to turn into a human again. XL decides to help the half feral man to learn how to behave like a human again.
It goes... Well, it goes.
XL can't quite bring himself to stop HC from eating out of XL's hand or give him headpats when he's done well. Aside from that, spraying him with cold water still works the best whenever he's being naughty.
(In truth, HC still remembers very well how to behave like a normal human but he's having too much fun to tell Gege that.)
(Oh also, cat Hua Cheng obviously isn't neutered so he'd have the big squishy cheeks some male cats have. For Gege to pinch and coo over.)
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katenepveu · 2 months
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9 Fandom Peeps to Get to Know Better:
from @measured-words!
3 ships I like: I don't think these will be a surprise based on the volume of my reblogs:
Lan Wangji/Wei Wuxian, The Untamed (specifically the show; I still haven't read the novel);
Hua Cheng/Xie Lian, Tian Guan Ci Fu by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu (a.k.a. TGCF a.k.a. Heaven Official's Blessing; I'm behind on the donghua and haven't read the manhua but I don't believe there's any particular reason to distinguish adaptations at present);
Gideon/Harrow, The Locked Tomb series by Tamsyn Muir. Unlike the other two, this is an ongoing work and not a romance, so I am not particularly holding out hope for a happy ending. That's okay! It'll be the right ending, and that's more important. (I'd say, and we'll always have fic, but I haven't had much fic-reading urge for this series. Who knows what'll happen when it's over, of course.)
First ship ever: this is a surprisingly tough one! Of the important books of my childhood and adolescence, some of them had romantic relationships, but I never really wanted to bang the characters together like dolls and say "Now kiss!", which is what shipping feels like to me. (You'd think there'd be something in Mercedes Lackey but mostly I wanted various characters/a nap.) I did get mushy over the very early, as in the first book, Lan/Nynaeve scenes in The Wheel of Time, which I think predates anything else that comes to mind?
Last song I heard: unfortunately the talus battle music from Tears of the Kingdom is stuck in my head, which is driving out all else.
Favorite childhood book: well, not to be a complete nerd or anything, but I did use to check out the three paperback volumes of The Lord of the Rings every year in elementary when we went to Vermont on vacation, so.
Currently reading: nominally re-reading TGCF along with folks on Mastodon, but I am of course behind. I have three Naomi Mitchison books in (gasp!) paper to read, as she is Memorial Guest of Honor at Readercon this year; The Conquered is due back the soonest so that's theoretically next. In practice I have a very busy few weeks coming up and the answer is probably "some comfort fic rereads."
Currently watching: the TGCF donghua. I rewatched S1 on mute at 1.5 speed (sorry, I know) and have seen precisely one episode of S2.
Currently consuming: water?
Currently craving: pectin jelly beans, which used to be available around this time of year but Russell Stover has apparently stopped making them. There are candy shops on the Internet that sell them but I'm not sure I want to go that far.
Tagging people on Tumblr terrifies me, so please chime in anyone who likes!
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darlingpwease · 11 months
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You can't trust me?? Bubba why do you hurt me :(( oh damn, hopefully you two can bump into each other again!! She sounds wonderful :)) (xie lian is the best flower boy)
I feel you, I am a sucker for those world hopping stories mainly (I'm actually writing a work based off of it lmao),, I like the xianxia works but because they usually have some of the best angst <//333 at least the ones I've read. (Don't get me wrong tho, other transmigration works can be just as brutal)
WHAT– What do you mean by that?! Yes, and ur so mean with it >:(( /t /j It definitely hurt my soul that's for sure lol, I actually plan to reread svsss some time over my break. Thank you for having some faith, darling Dove </33
Hmm,, I really like Hua Cheng and Xie Lian, but I also like Feng Xin <33 What about you?? Who are your favorites?? /gen
He reminds me of a fairy, pretty boy pretty darling <333
Yes yes, I am very much a panna cotta of culture. Impressive, right?? <33
-panna cotta
As the cycle keeps on repeating over and over and over and overandoverandoverandover- Even if you don't remember things that have happened in the past (or at least, some times not completely), the two of you have descended into a thick pool of infatuated insanity. There's no longer any room for others, not for you nor Xie Lian.
There is only you. And there is only him.
When he finds you again, when he finally brings you home once more, everything is already set up in a way that is perfect for you. The joy felt is indescribable, but whenever you try to surprise him, you can't help but feel disappointed. What do you mean I've already done this? What do you mean you're happy to get another one? Isn't this the first time? No matter how many times you go through this cycle, it's gotten to the point where there doesn't seem to be anything new.
You'd be lying if it didn't make you worry. What if Xie Lian gets bored? What if he finally has enough of you? Even though you don't remember, it's been so long that it's engraved into your soul that you are his, and he is yours. You know that, just seeing the way he looks at you tells you. This deep rooted craving that you have, the dependency the two of you have has seeped into your bones and into the very matter that makes you two.
You can't leave him. You don't want to.
But what can you do to stop him if he ever decides to leave you?
You have to keep him. Tie him down here, to you. Connect his soul to yours, fuse your life with his. Even if you have to go against the very heavens, you will not let him leave.
you haven't given me a reason to trust you yet, foxtail🤨🤨🤨 /t (yes!!! best flower boy,,,, I want to hold him in my palms and look at him with love<///3)
'I'm actually writing a work based off of it lmao' don't be shy tell more🎤🎤🎤 right??? I love xiaxia for good angst and world hopping because it's very good, even if it's systems,,, always systems...... world hopper!reader in blessing??? someone??? interested???? /hj
you can try to talk before I start talking about it, you already look like a calf on a leash to everyone and even to your anons🤨🤨🤨 /t /j /hsrs I can be an cold CEO, but you're not a big-eyed, small-chested shorty who stumbles through every word and is an innocent sheep and whom everyone constantly drugging and tries to rape so that in the middle of the story she leaves the country and returns with a brilliant child, so it's not in your best interests to agree with this🙄😒 /t /j I'm trying even though you're trying to nullify even that<3 /t
mhm~ expect Hua Cheng and Xie Lian, it's Jun Wu and He Xuan<3 If I could, I would drown them in a puddle, but they are so complex and multifaceted that at the same time I want to kiss them<333
yes!!! pretty fairy boy, pretty<333 look at him, he's so cute, I want to bite his cheek and tell him what a baby he is while he is deeply anxious and almost depressed due to lack of support and isolation and an absolute needy mess because he was gaslighted so often that he can't let you go even for a minute :((( pretty<333333 love it when hot gentle men are deeply traumatized and clearly not mentally stable<333333333 /¾j
yes, for a lousy panna cotta like you, it's very impressive; perhaps one day you will become a good and sweet panna cotta, which is what you should be<333 /t /j
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After all, given the White No-Face's prediction that Xia Lian will be abandoned by everyone and left alone, which has become a self-fulfilling prophecy, even more poisons his mind and stability when he sees that you are not always happy. He dares to believe — wants to believe — that you love him and want him, that this is at least partly untrue, that you will always be with him, always returning to him, always being loved by him, going against everything and giving up everything, that in your first life, that in current one — but when he sees how you become more and more sad and annoyed with each life, while not saying what is happening to you,,,, when he sees the dullness in your eyes at the sight of what seems to you as a 'too weak reaction', or when he does not answer the question whether it is the first place or a gift, instead saying how good he is, thanking you and smiling happily, but your smile is insincere and empty.
And he's not suspicious, and he's not depressed, and he's not paranoid, and he's not traumatized, and he's not clingy or needy at all — but he can't help but be emotionally overwhelmed when you become different, colder and distant, for the first time, whispering that he's beautiful, but immediately interrupting and instead smiling sadly, catching on the thought that you definitely don't say it for the first time, you don't do anything for the first time, you've already done it all before — and stroke his hair, soothing, rocking like a child, letting him relax during the influx of disturbing memories of how he hid head in your stomach or chest, looking for support and understanding, and doing the same now, only now he sees how you feel,
and it gives an alarming pain in his chest.
You're not thinking of leaving him, are you?
He can't live without you.
You can't.
You're the only one who can't leave him — never.
Perhaps Xie Lian reacts too... sharply when clings to you even more tightly, almost forbidding you to leave him, fearing that someone will attract your attention — even if you are not subject to his lack of any luck, this does not mean that his lucklessness will not cause you to leave. You are so perfect, so magnificent that he can't help but admire you and adore you, no one can help but adore you, even in your first life — otherwise you wouldn't be as well loved and famous if you were famous only for 'how you drove the Crown Prince crazy with love'. If there were guides to the Peach Spring that led souls to rest, then it would be you.
If you were a guide to the Peach Spring, he would be an eternal will-o'-the-wisp by your side, never able to leave you.
Your eyes look disappointed and dull when you feel that Xie Lian is trying to lie to you, saying that this is the first time, you have never given him something like this, — you see how anxious and diligent he is to make you believe that it has at least some damn value.
You don't know where he puts old things — throws away, burns, destroys? — and you can't help but struggle to ask him about it, but you know that he will look like a kicked puppy when he realizes that you have seen through him. Xie Lian kisses you so gently, like a butterfly touching your skin, even if it's already more than a thousand times, but you can't help but be overbearing, aggressive, digging into his skin with your nails when you kiss passionately and almost bloody, forcing him to obey and succumb to you, — but you still don't feel that your hunger is satisfied. Did your past reincarnations kiss him like that? Will your future reincarnations kiss him like that? You can't help but be disappointed and annoyed, feeling how he wants to relax you, but not understanding how, only giving in to your impulse, letting do whatever you want, experiencing an overwhelming rush of happiness and adoration that almost cries when realizes again that it's you, you're next, you're with him, you love him, you are his,
and he is yours.
When you ask him to relax, to trust you, Xie Lian sees no reason not to do it, obediently closing his eyes, and his face is so calm, serene, that you feel even more like you are becoming abnormal for him.
It's for his own good — you say when your fingers slide over his skin while you kiss his neck, feeling his long thin fingers grab you by the clothes, but his eyes, even though the eyelashes tremble, do not open, obeying — this is what you should have done with him a long time ago.
You don't know if your future reincarnations will do this, but you are sure that your past ones didn't, when your fingers slide over his naked body, drawing circles and symbols that he will definitely understand.
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ok ok but light hua cheng x reader??? the reader who became a ghost after their death instead of being reborn, but hua cheng does not mind too much, even if he was late for too long, which left only your body, - and such an angry mood and hatred for the people who tormented your lover and made him so that you can't even rest in peace, wishing protect him, but at the same time warm up to a guy you know, but can't remember, and are very gentle to him, seeing how he cares about your lover, even if he can treat you too protectively & maybe teasingly when you're still a will-o'-the-wisp?🤨🤨🤨
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annebaneriddle · 2 years
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MDZS prompt idea: Supreme calamity ghost WWX
I tried to find a fanfic with a prompt like this one, but couldn’t find any. Feel free to use it to write a fanfic, you don't even need to credit me, you just need to send me the link so I can read it.
The prompt is kinda a crossover with Heaven Official's Blessing, but not quite. You don't need to have read TGCF to understand it, since the TGCF character's are only ever mentioned and never appear.
So, my idea was:
After the first siege on the Burial Mounds, where Wei Wuxian dies, his soul doesn't shatters, he is really weak, just a tiny ghost fire trying to keep other spirits and resentfull beings away from little A-Yuan until help, hopefully, came.
When Lan Wangji goes to the Burial Mounds and finds A-Yuan, WWX notices that he is hurt and follows him both to be near A-Yuan and to find out what the hell happened to LWJ. He manages to leave the Burrial Mounds since he was the one to change the wards around it when he was alive. He also maneges to get into Cloud Recesses, since he isn't a resentful spirit.
When LWJ faints as soon as he gets A-Yuan to the healers and the healers are taking care of both A-Yuan and LWJ, WWX sees the 33 lashes on the man's back, and is kinda freaking out trying to find out what LWJ would have possibly have done to receive such punishment.
It isn't until months latter that he hears Lan Qiren arguing with Lan Xichen and mentioning the reason of LWJ's punishment that he finds out that LWJ received the 33 lashes for protecting him.
Just like Hua Cheng became a poweful ghost after witnessing Xie Lian suffer, so did WWX after witnessing LWJ suffer. His rage towards himself for letting such thing happen with such a good and righterous person and his ressentment towards LXC and LQ for doing something like that to LWJ were so big that he went from a weak ghost fire to a powerful vengeful ghost.
WWX, however, is such a good person that, even being resentful and enraged, he decides not to retaliate (ok, maybe he did gave LXC and LQ a lot of nightmares about what happened to LWJ, not that he is going to admit it) and settles with watching A-Yuan grow and appearing on LWJ's dreams during the Lan's seclusion to keep nightmares at bay and interact with the man inside the dreams.
He thought LWJ hated him, so it was quite a surprise to see how much the man was grieving him, how much his death hurt him.
He feels just fine where he is, and that's when he notices he has been in love with LWJ for a long time, that all his attempts of getting LWJ's attention when they were teenagers were because he liked the Lan on a romantic way. Now all knowing looks Huaisang gave him made sense, specially because he hasn't noticed that he was attracted to both women and men thanks to pure denial.
He also starts to grow restless, he wants to be able to do more - the cultivation world isn't getting any better for what he heard some Lans talking, and LWJ's moods aren't getting any better neither, he's only getting better at hiding them from A-Yuan -. That's when he finally decides to go to the Tonglu Mountain's slaughter and try to become a supreme ghost. If he managed to almost single-handly win a war and don't have his soul shattered after destroying the Stigian Tiger Seal, he thinks he might have good chances on coming out of this one without having his sould destroyed.
To his surprise, he finds out that he can still control resentfull energy and resentfull beings, so what could’ve taken him decades or centuries to achieve took him only one year. He managed to become a supreme ghost.
He starts his self-imposed mission of trying to make the cultivation world a better place, and he starts it by getting back his notes and inventions that were with the Jin. He finds Xue Yang trying to recreate the Stygian Tyger seal and kills him before destroying the seal for good. He takes his notes and hide them.
His next stop is at the Burial Mounds. He kills resentful monsters that were born there, free the souls and put the souls who want rest to rest. The ones who don’t, he guides them to the Ghost City.
The people from Yilling start talking about the young man they see day and night guiding spirits from the Burial Mounds. They say it’s the same young man who used to go into town and sell radishes with his son and that other shy young man.
One day, months after it started, the wards around the Burial Mounds fall. There are no longer monsters and spirits there, the land has been purified. Cultivators go there to investigate and the description they heard of the man people saw sounds an awful lot like Wei Wuxian, but they can’t prove it’s him since they saw with their own eyes the man being eaten alive by his own corpses and the Yilling Patriarc look-alike didn’t make any move to get revenge on them. They decide to wait and see how things will turn out.
LX decides not to tell his brother about it, he doesn’t want LWJ to get hopes that WWX is still alive only for these hopes to get crushed later.
WWX decides to go to Gusu to see LWJ. he is really happy when he sees that the man is already being able to get up from the bed. There are still some months for his seclusion to end, tho. WWX gives in to his desire of telling LWJ he is still there and shows himself. Lots of LWJ thinking he is allucinating, lots of tears, feelings and love declarations. WWX convinces LWJ that he isn’t hallucinating, but sometimes LWJ still thinks he is.
LWJ questions his brother about what is happening outside of the Jingshi (what comes as a surprise, because he has let clear that he didn’t give a damn about what was happening to the cultivation world) and keeps questioning until LXC tells him about the rummous that the Yilling Patriarc is back. LWJ is relieved that he indeed isn’t hallucinating and makes sure to point out that the cultivation world is lucky that WWX doesn’t resent them for what they did to him.
That’s when rummors start about a new Supreme Ghost coming to be and that he is considered a Calamity by the heavenly court, they say that the said Supreme Ghost is WWX and call him Silver Lost-Guiding Moon. Siver moon because of his gentle grey eyes, lost-guiding because he is always guiding lost souls, guiding lost people through the mortal roads and keeping them away from the roads of the ghost realm during Ghost Festivals, and appearing on people’s dreams when they are feeling lost and pray to him for counseling.They say the heavely court considered him a calamity because he gets into their way and interfere on their plans while helping people safe and doesn’t stop even if they demand him to. Some gods tried to make him stop, but failed. They gave up when martial god after martial god went back to the heavenly court beaten up and with threats of having their temples burned and civil god after civil god came back shamed for losing debates. They still remembed very well what Hua Cheng had done and weren’t willing to see if WWX was crazy enough to do the same thing, specially because WWX reminded them too much of HC.
Anything after here would be up to you to create.
(Someone please write it, I’m dying to read a fanfic like this)
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nyerus · 2 years
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I understand why XL asked to keep his neck shackles, but why did he go out of the way to ask for another cursed shackle that gives him misfortune? Even when he ascended for the third time, why did he keep the shackles (especially his leg one) even though he needs his fortune back in order to bless his believers?
Hello Anon!
Xie Lian asked for both shackles as a form of penance. He felt guilty that he planned and even nearly carried out something so appalling (i.e. nearly unleashing the HFD on the citizens of Yong'An as revenge), and furthermore that it was not he who took the brunt of the consequences -- instead, it was someone else who bore them in his place: Wu Ming.
So both of these things combined, and Xie Lian decided that he needed to atone for what he'd done and nearly done. The first shackle makes sense in that he felt he did not deserve any such spiritual powers, after misusing his own power previously. In addition, he felt an appropriate form of punishment would be to have his luck dispersed to those who were less fortunate, in general, as it was the common people against whom he raised his sword. In this way, while he would become extremely misfortunate, at least others in need may have slight boosts in their own fortunes.
Even after he ascended for the third time, he kept these shackles because he did not feel he "finished" his penance. He just sort of ascended, and may have even been a bit surprised by it, but it didn't functionally change anything for him. Part of the story of TGCF is Xie Lian subtly and slowly letting go of the concept of having to punish himself so severely for his past actions -- and to eventually forgive himself. It's quite symbolic that in the end, it's Hua Cheng's love and devotion that sets Xie Lian free.
Thereafter, he is able to bless his believers not by using his own luck or fortune, but through his deeds. (Though if he really wanted, I'm sure he could just borrow some from Hua Cheng to do so, hahaha.) It's kind of unclear what happens post-canon, and whether or not he ever gets incrementally more fortunate.
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Also... because we are on this topic anyway, and because I see a lot of misconceptions about Xie Lian's luck and what happened to it, I want to point out that Xie Lian is very clear in his request.
Transcribed from chapter 198 of the fan translation:
He raised his head. "So, as punishment, I pray My Lord will grant me a cursed shackle, no, two cursed shackles. One to seal away my spiritual powers, another to disperse all my luck and fortune." [...] Once his fortune was dispersed, it would naturally flow to those who were less fortunate, so it'd be a form of atonement.
At no point during this does he ever utter the words "to my believers." Just to drive it home: Xie Lian specifically did not disperse his luck to "his believers" -- but to the populace in general. Otherwise, the whole point of his self-imposed punishment is completely lost! It would change his gesture from one that is tragically self-sacrificing, to one that is actually incredibly selfish. If someone had to be his believer to "receive" his luck, that's very underhanded, and undermines him as a character. In no way would that show his sincerity to make amends; it would only be vindicative. He also knew/assumed at the time that he had no remaining believers, so it would have made little sense if he were to disperse his luck to them. As far as he knew, he just watched his final believer vanish in front of his own eyes, without any guarantee that he'd ever be back. (Jun Wu did too, and thus he would have no reason to randomly change the terms of that request. He had no reason to care whatsoever who that luck "went" to, and in fact better if it's spread thin across the populace.)
The poignancy of Xie Lian's decision here is that it shows his growth, and just how genuine he is about wanting to help common people. He was able to overcome his grief and reclaim his original sense purpose, despite what Bai Wuxiang wanted. It shows the strength of his resiliency! So him dispersing his luck to the common people he nearly jeopardized is him -- in his own view -- atoning for nearly harming those he vowed to help.
(Sorry for co-opting your ask for this, Anon! I hope you do not mind even though the second half isn't as on-topic to what you sent in, haha!)
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eyes-of-mischief · 1 year
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weekly fic recs | 34
fandoms: bsd, dbh, hq, tgcf, svsss
bsd
Who Needs Money Anyway? (Spoiler Alert: It’s Us) by fandomsandshit
Their funding has been cut.
Akiko stares blankly at the sheet Haruno is holding out to her, hands sweaty and shaky, and resists the urge to scream.
It’s been a long time coming. As much as she hates to admit it, Akiko is honestly surprised it took this long for them to lose some of it; what with the monthly shootings, consistent suicide attempts and general shenanigans of the Agency members.
But how on earth are they going to make enough money now?
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A Study in Mafia Black by eluvion
If he’s being honest, good and bad don’t matter so much to Ranpo as truth does. Good and bad are subjective, clouded with human error, and honestly, they’re quite boring. Mystery has always been more interesting than morality with the way each string weaves together, creating a tapestry of crime, blood and ash writing their own story. Dazai is still as much of a mystery as he was at first glance, and Ranpo is just as ready to pick apart the truth from whatever plays behind those eyes.
Or; a friendship, of sorts, between the two smartest members of the Armed Detective Agency.
dbh
preconstruct by aworus
(graphic depictions of violence)
Connor’s preconstruction software is activating much more often than he’d like. Who knew an android problem could actually be so human?
(Five times Connor has intrusive thoughts and one time he tells someone about it.)
hq
a dictionary definition by shoutowo
“Well, yeah!” Bokuto says. “When I say stuff like ‘the world’, sometimes, like, in my head, I’m really only imagining one person.”
The interviewer looks like she hit the jackpot. Bokuto doesn’t notice. “Can we get a name?”
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or, Akaashi is Bokuto's world. This creates more problems than it solves.
tgcf
centuries since paradise by parsnipit
Xie Lian has spent long enough around sirens to have some grasp of their communication, and some of it is even a little similar to mer noises. This sound, for example, is like the one podmates use to call for each other—curious, beckoning. He suspects it means much the same thing for sirens. Has this siren lost someone, maybe? Hopefully it will find its lost someone soon, so Xie Lian can go back to sleep. Then, because nothing good can ever happen to Xie Lian, the siren peeks beneath the overhang. It hangs its head over the jut of stone, its hair billowing like a crown of ink and the yellow sclera of its eye bright against the black. That singular eye catches on his, its pupil dilating, and Xie Lian stiffens.
Windmaster's Heavenly Confections by IceEckos12
Eight years after a personal tragedy derailed his life, Xie Lian is hired to work at the local candy shop, Windmaster's Heavenly Confections.
He has no idea what he's just gotten himself into.
Including: cooking disasters, reunions with old friends, and the sweetest possibility of romance.
A Wolf’s Snare by UmbraSoleil
(explicit)
By all accounts, Hua Chengzhu is a terrifying, wicked king. But, as much as Hua Cheng is feared, he is also favored.
So then why would such a man request to marry him—the prince of a kingdom in decline? Xie Lian did not think he would ever be able to understand.
Then, during Xie Lian’s escort to his betrothed, a peculiar spirit tethers itself to him; a youth who calls himself San Lang.
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“You’ve kept me waiting for a very long time.”
svsss
Into This Wild Abyss by Lbhs_left_tiddie (HungryPoet)
(explicit) (graphic depictions of violence, rape/non-con)
Shen Qingqiu stood at the edge of the cliff, his back lit up by the fiery light of the Endless Abyss. The blood from the wound on his chest spilled out between his fingers, splattering onto the shattered remains of Xiu Ya laying at his feet. When he looked up, his expression was half-wild with the heat of battle, shoulders heaving with his ragged breaths, and his eyes, which were normally like green jade, glowed blood red-
-The very same red shining from the demon mark etched onto his forehead.
Or: Shen Qingqiu is the protagonist of PIDW
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yeyayeya · 4 months
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My reaction to TGCF Season 2 Ep 7 (Part 6)
*major novel spoilers*
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Lang Qianqiu’s whole speech about never being like Xie Lian
THE FUCKING PARALLELS BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND XL AND JUN WU???
asdfghjkl
Wtf this is too much for me to handle
AND STOP SHOWING ME HUA CHENGS FACE
AAHHHH
I went through so many fucking emotions when LQQ said that, and got reminded so much of XL and JW. Stop
And the way Xie Lian doesn’t want LQQ to become like him, and JW tries everything to make XL like him?? I’m done. I forget how a lot of things are foreshadows for other stuff later on, and get slapped in the face when I go back and learn about it
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AAHHHH LITTLE DARUMA DOLL LQQ
I’m sorry
Hua Cheng looks so pleased omg. I need this as official merch. I would 100% but them. Wait you know what? Have the first merch of them be the ones that have turned to dolls in canon (Lang Qianqiu, Ling Wen, Qi Rong, and Quan Yizhen), and follow it up with all the other characters
I need them please it’s such a good idea for merch
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ASDFGHJKL
NO
AAAHHH
Ooh are we paying someone a visit? I wonder who. NO BUT THE DISGUISES OF HUALIAN ARE PERCECT?? WTF
Guys I’m sorry I must be hella annoying in this episode reaction. The pointy ears?? *faints*
Thanks you animators for the good food
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ASDFGHJKL
NO LET ME FREAK OUT ABOUT THIS
HE’S HERE
Next episode I’m going to scream about this man
Love him or hate him, I want to see the best trash king ever
Also why he posing like that come on now. But it screams his personality so well omg
Next episode is going to be great
Overall: I ranted too much in this episode than all the others, which is surprising as I thought it was Ep 3 that got to me, but no. I’ve never done a part 6 so here’s more of me just screaming about TGCF
I also didn’t post this in time because I had exams and haven’t exactly recovered from them yet, so apologies for that
I can never get enough of it I need more
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deathfavor · 1 year
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@laduendee​​ said: he doesnt say anything, simply standing in the doorway as he xuan lay curled in his bed. It was a tranquil feeling he felt, one that pulled him away from the entry way and moving back to his place next to him on the bed. His head rested against the pillow, turning so that he was facing he xuan. there's a small smile as he notices those gold eyes reflecting back to him. ' you were supposed to be asleep' he laughs quietly, ' ruined my element of surprise.' // dnklfsndkl some soft quiet pillow talk ? ndfklsnl 
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He hears Hua Cheng approaching - this mansion is as empty and hollow as the ghost king himself. There is nothing to hide or muffle his footsteps. And either way, He Xuan had known the moment that Hua Cheng had stepped into his territory, the same way a shark knew when you touched its skin.
   ( He loathes it as much as he yearns for it. Perhaps because he yearns for it. )
He Xuan however does not make the first move. He refuses. It will not help. The ache is already too deep in his bones, and its warmth scares him as much as he wants to possessively coil around it. Already his ribs have been pried apart like an old shipwreck and this yearning want has settled in his chasm like the reefs of the ocean do of the shipwrecks. It brings life back to where there wasn’t supposed to be any..
He also knows that no movement will not discourage Hua Cheng. He’s woken up, groggy and disoriented after some of his highs and lows and seen Hua Cheng laying beside him or moving about his mansion. Sometimes he’s been there during some of the short hibernations where he stayed in bed, or at least He Xuan had seen traces of him lingering in the space like a blanket someone drapes over you when you’ve fallen asleep. He lingers even when he is not here, a comfort that never fails to warm him.
Gold eyes stare with unrelenting attention when he watches Hua Cheng lay beside him and then shift to face him. He supposes it can’t be helped how something twists in his chest every time that the other ghost king still chooses to come back time and time again. Not that He Xuan didn’t make his own efforts in kind, venturing into Ghost City or to Paradise Manor on occasion or other similar gestures, but he would not fault Hua Cheng to get tired of him after all these years. But he never seems to, even when He Xuan has been at his worst. (He does not think he can ever voice how thankful he is for that.) 
   “  Was I?  “  He Xuan raises an eyebrow, voice flat despite his unspoken happiness at seeing the other ghost king that shows when he shifts a bit closer. Subtle, but louder in its silence.  “  I didn’t receive the letter or butterfly saying so. Maybe the fish ate it.  “  He shrugs casually, finally blinking for the first time since Hua Cheng’s entered his domain.  “  I’m sure you will get over the broken heart of a ruined surprise. Or end up coming up with something new.  “  He snorts, quieting after a moment to observe Hua Cheng.  “  You didn’t come all this way for a nap, did you?  “  He inquires, his want for knowledge unable to take not knowing any longer why Hua Cheng expected him to be asleep.
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naamah-beherit · 1 year
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Perspective Flip for we're after the same rainbow's end. You should have known this one was coming from me. I will devour fafa's pov of any scene.
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Perspective Flip on chapter 8 and The Kiss. I hope you'll like it :3
Hua Cheng has never been a patient person. He holds onto composure with claws and teeth gritted tight around the bloodied scraps of self-control that make it possible for him to survive in society from the better side of jail bars. It's no surprise that his composure, meagre and battered, snaps as soon as he sees some idiot blatantly flirt with Xie Lian. (his Xie Lian. his husband, even if only on paper and in his heart. his, his, his) The first kiss is an impulse. And earth-shattering, world-changing impulse, but an impulse nonetheless. The second, at home, with Xie Lian pliant in his arms, is a deliberate choice made in face of an utter dissolution of self-control. How can he not make it when Xie Lian gasps so sweetly into his mouth, when he melts in Hua Cheng's embrace, when it's everything Hua Cheng has ever dreamt of and more? There's no heaven in this world but his husband's kiss, no greater joy than the rush of ecstasy that runs through Hua Cheng's veins. No colder snap than when Xie Lian staggers back. "Gege, I—" Hua Cheng says, grasping at straws of the world he's ruined with his own hands. But there is no world, no turning back the time, and he stands alone in the hall of his—their—home and knows without a shred of doubt there's no fixing this.
Thanks for asking! <3
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skeche · 2 years
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drunk hualian and san lang gege
They spent that evening talking with each other and eventually getting into more drinks. Hua Cheng made him try whiskey for the first time when the sky started to blaze red and then try a white wine when the stars started to speckle. It was comfortable and languid and Xie Lian was able to forget about his worries.
What was there to worry about when Hua Cheng was with him? No bills or scholarships to maintain, no past friendships looking to haunt him, no reminders of his past mistakes. It was always about the present with him and Xie Lian reveled in it.
He started to get sleepy when the moon was illuminating the room and Hua Cheng's bicep was under his head. Their legs were intertwined and Xie Lian ran his fingers up and down Hua Cheng's side with his nails. He could see the goosebumps forming and it made him smile.
"Gege likes teasing me, eh?" Hua Cheng murmurs into his hair. His warm breath made Xie Lian resist shivering. 
"Does San Lang not do the same?" He asked, looking up to look him in the eyes. Hua Cheng's gaze was soft, eyes half lidded. Xie Lian decides to tease him a little more, "San Lang gege loves to tease me all the time, does he not?"
Hua Cheng's eyes widened in surprise. He abruptly coughs into his hand and blinks a few times, avoiding eye contact for a moment. Xie Lian smiles something self-satisfied. 
He decides to continue as normal, "I don't think He Xuan is coming back. Does San Lang gege think we scared him away?"
Hua Cheng covers his hand with his mouth and leans back, shaking his head minutely.
Xie Lian leans forward a little in response. "What's wrong, San Lang gege? I thought you weren't affected by alcohol." He knew that he well into the drunk stage to have the courage to be this flirtatious but he liked how it made Hua Cheng nervous. 
"Ge- Gege," Hua Cheng clears his throat and lowers his hand. "Gege, you are going to kill me."
Xie Lian grins and runs his hand to Hua Cheng's hip and squeezes. "San Lang gege-"
Abruptly, Hua Cheng grabs his shoulder and pushes him down, legs framing his own against the bed as he hovers over Xie Lian on his elbows. Xie Lian freezes, pliant in surprise, and looks up at Hua Cheng with a heavy blush on his face. Hua Cheng is breathing a bit harsher than before and he lowers his face to Xie Lian's neck.
"You will be the death of me, Dianxia," He murmured into his skin. This time, Xia Lian couldn't stop the full body shudder. He could feel Hua Cheng's smile. Hua Cheng leaned onto one elbow and let the other hand lay on Xie Lian's collarbone. His hand was so large that it touched his neck and shoulder as well, a heavy and grounding weight pressing him down.
What was unsaid between them‐ it was heavy and apparent. They both knew it was there, both knew what they were too afraid to voice out loud. It would make it real and what was real was fragile.
Xie Lian moved his hands at the touch, one grasping into Hua Cheng's shirt between them and the other caressing his face. He took in his warmth and kept it for himself. Seeped in his attention and the ability to be so close to someone. 
Instead, Xie Lian hummed into Hua Cheng's temple. "San Lang."
"Gege?" His voice came out muffled. 
"San Lang," he said again. A complete statement. 
"Gege." Hua Cheng's hand on Xie Lian's collarbone twitched.
Xie Lian smiled. If this all Xie Lian would ever get, he couldn't complain. 
Hua Cheng lowered himself to press completely on top of him and Xie Lian moved his hands to wrap around his large torso. The weight felt good, his warm and alcohol filled body thrumming with pleasure. Hua Cheng wrapped his arms around Xie Lian, pressing them between him and the bed.
They stayed like that for a long time, murmuring half sentences here and there as Xie Lian started to drift to sleep. His worries forgotten and a loving presence to take their place. There was nothing more he could ask for.
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