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frodolives · 1 year

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this movie was hot garbage but whoever played george deserved an oscar

#why are there so many gay beatles biopics… this one doesn’t even rank in the top 3 gayest n it has scenes like this #the beatles #backbeat #george harrison

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crepesuzette2023 · 7 days

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So whats like the general consensus about Stu and John? Do we think they ever messed around or not?

Ooooh, I won't burn and scar my typing fingers on anything like "general consensus," and my cop-out answer is: depends on who you ask. I mean, if you're living in a world where 'a man being with a woman' = straight, or 'a man who never came out unequivocally as queer' = straight, then John and Stu very much never messed around, and, more importantly, didn't feel the desire to.

But I think if you look at it with an open mind, without being afraid of the possibility, you'll see it's more likely they did than that they didn't.

First, you have John, with his life-long romantic idea of being in love with your creative partner (see: his comments on Yoko and Paul)—an idea that fits Stu seamlessly, and perhaps even started with him. In the Hunter Davies bio, John (in '67) calls Stu Paul's predecessor in the 'my trusted partner in art' role.

There is also this conversation with Stu's girlfriend, Astrid Kircherr, as related by Backbeat director Iain Softley:

Paying tribute to Astrid this week, film director Iain Softley revealed her moving words from his interviews with her when he made 1994 movie Backbeat about her and Stuart’s romance.

They hint at a complex relationship between her, Stuart and John. She said it was only after Stuart died that she and John “took a load of pills” and talked for 12 hours about “all the things on our minds about Stuart”. “‘He was jealous when Klaus and I fancied Stuart more, and took him home and left John out,” she told Iain.

“He told me he really loved Stuart, but was afraid of the feeling.”

Iain adds: “I think she thought he meant as a friend, I don’t think there was any suggestion they were in a relationship. But Stuart had always been John’s best friend, they shared a flat in Liverpool. John would write to Stuart as ‘Jesus Christ to John the Baptist’, in the sense Stuart was showing him the way. He looked up to him.

“There was a sense John didn’t want Stuart taken away from him, he didn’t want Stuart to stay in Hamburg.

“At the same time he was very fond of Astrid, but I think there was a conflict there.”

If John was afraid of the feeling, then I'm thinking he felt something that, at the time, and probably still today, was a scary thing to feel. I'll leave it at that.

Also, they were, what? 18, 19, 20 years old? At that age, odds are you do fool around, even if you regret it afterwards. Nothing wrong with that.

Look at this picture of Stu (r.) with Astrid and Astrid's ex, Klaus Voormann. Klaus, who later said he and Astrid didn't work as a couple because she wanted him to be exactly like her image of him, and whose marriage (to a woman) was a platonic marriage of convenience, according to himself. We have now reached the beautiful stage of come onnn! "Straight" was at the party, but so were many others. These relationships were messy! That's awesome!

And how do we feel about John feeling up Gene Vincent, while Paul and George look on knowingly, and Pete Best blanks out? We feel joyous and unsurprised.

A word about Paul vs. Stu, since we're (sort of) at it.

It's possible (what an understatement) to think of their rivalry as sexual rivalry. This is, once more, hinted at in Backbeat, where Stu is more or less giving away John to Paul.

And yet. I think it was more than that. I think everyone, back then, was fighting for more than a bed-partner. They were fighting for their future, for a life unlike their parents'. Paul was fighting for the band, Stu was fighting for John to join him on his artist's way (even giving 'rock'n'roll' a try), and John..

John was, on the one hand, the person either of the others felt he needed in order to realize his dream. But on the other hand, he was the least decided of the three. He may have perceived that, within the trio, he had the fewest fall-back options: Stu had his obvious, much-mentored artistic talent. Paul had a possible academic future bwxt to his musical talent, plus a clear determination to make it in music. John had talent in spades, but perhaps less of a clear-cut idea of where and how to apply it. So he tried keeping both of them close...?

With fun scenes like these as a result:

John sure is feeling campy/cuddly, while Paul is incandescent with rage. A hot look for both of them.

In the end, we don't know if they ever did fool around. My usual reply in those cases is: I hope they did, if they both wanted it. I hope it was good.

I need to check out this book:

John and Paul look happy.

#asks #Stuart Sutcliffe #John Lennon #Astrid Kircherr #Paul McCartney #Backbeat #Iain Softley #mclennon #lenncliffe #it's just handy to fuck your best friend #until it isn't

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greensparty · 2 months

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Sam Mendes partners with Sony and Apple for Four Beatle Theatrical Movies

Today it was announced that Oscar-winning director Sam Mendes will be directing four movies about The Beatles, each one about the individual Fab Four: John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr. Sir Paul, Sir Ringo and the estates of Lennon and Harrison have granted life rights and music rights to the scripted films. As a lifelong Beatle fanatic (I just named "Now and Then" my #1 Song of 2023 last week) this peaked my interest!

Mendes is a solid director. I was a big fan of American Beauty, Road to Perdition, Jarhead, Away We Go, 1917 and Empire of Light. So I'm confident he's going to do the right thing and not mess this up. There's been quite a few Beatle documentaries in recent years notably Peter Jackson's The Beatles: Get Back. But in terms of a scripted film about The Beatles' that's been easier said than done over the years. There have been a number of TV movies about the individual Beatles, but theatrically it's been few and far between. There's been loads of films inspired by The Beatles, i.e. Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, Across the Universe, and Yesterday. One of the great films about Beatle-mania (not so much The Beatles themselves but the fans) was I Wanna Hold Your Hand. The best one about Lennon was Nowhere Boy, in which Aaron Johnson played Lennon as a teen. One of my favorites about The Beatles is Backbeat about their early days in Hamburg, mainly the relationship between Lennon (Ian Hart) and Stu Sutcliffe (Stephen Dorf). Paul, George and Pete Best were also portrayed in the film too, but very minor roles outside of the performances.

Bottom line: getting the life rights and music rights to The Beatles is a serious get, which is why is hasn't been done too often, done right, or they tried to do it without the music. I think if each movies is going to be each Beatles' story with their own POV of what happened that could really work, especially for a director like Mendes!

Oh and Mr. Mendes - if you need a consultant for any of these films, feel free to contact me!

The link above is the article from Deadline.

#same mendes #The beatles #movie news #film geek #music nerd #john lennon #paul mccartney #george harrison #ringo starr #nowhere boy #backbeat #i wanna hold your hand

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javelinbk · 11 months

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Backbeat (1994) / Astrid Kirchherr (1960)

#maybe this is why I have such affection for backbeat #so many moments brought to life #backbeat #astrid kirchherr #astrid’s photos #stuart sutcliffe #john lennon #john and stu #javelin’s gifs

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kaiserkeller · 1 year

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ASTRID KIRCHHERR, c. 1964.

“Does she feel sad about her life knowing that it could have been different had [Stuart] lived? ‘No, one cannot,’ she says. ‘I think it is rather silly if you reminisce and feel sad about what could have been if this or that had not happened. One should enjoy life for the moment.

I had a wonderful, beautiful time with Stuart, which I will always remember. I can’t ask for more. I have experienced love, friendship, and wonderful music. I can’t sit and cry my eyes out because he’s not alive any more. It wouldn’t help anybody.’” — Daily Express, 21 March 1994.

#i’m in an astrid era #excuse me #getting ready for her birthday/anniversary #i will never forget the day she died #for me it was one of those ‘where were you when…’#astrid kirchherr #1960s #60s #backbeat #the beatles #stuart sutcliffe #articles

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myrockandrollking · 7 months

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So I ended up watching a Hard Days Night, Nowhere Boy (which I've already seen) and Backbeat all in the same day since I went full Beatles binge mode yesterday and it was amazing! Needless to say, John is rotting my brain, as he should. I'll post my thoughts on a Hard Day's Night in the next post!

#the beatles #music biopic #john lennon #nowhere boy #backbeat #a hard day's night #i love john so much

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askvectorprime · 9 months

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Hey, vector prime it's me again. Is there a type of music on Cybertron like dubstep that humans have on Earth?

Dear Musical Maestro,

Oh, how nice to encounter a fellow lover of classical music! I have immense appreciation of the three greats: Sunder, Backbeat, and Electrostatic.

#ask vector prime #transformers #maccadam #aligned continuity #sunder #backbeat #electrostatic #tomatron1511

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bewareofdarkness · 13 days

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