#At least to the end of JIngo I haven't read Fifth Elephant yet

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 I am deeply intrigued by Sir Terry Pratchett’s master/pet kink. I choked on my cereal when Gaspode told Angua that Carrot was now her “master”, and if he called her she’d have to choice but to go to him. Didn’t expect Pratchett to be horny on main. It’s ballsy. Mad respect.

And he didn’t just repeat it in Jingo, having her say the same thing plainly to Vimes, but by using dog-imagery with Vimes as well (Everyone is somebody’s dog, Vetinari’s terrier etc), he links the concepts, and so Vimes’ relationship with the Patrician becomes kinky as well. The coming and going on command also has a parallel; Vimes thinks twice (once in Feet of Clay when Vetinari dismisses him from his bedside, and once in the Prince’s tent in Jingo) that Vetinari can turn him on and off like a switch.

There is also, a little more tenuously, the characterisation of the guild dogs as dogs who are always afraid that they are “bad dogs” deep inside, and Vimes’ similar feeling that he’s just a “collection of bad habits”. But I’ll have to read Fifth Elephant and beyond to see if that connection gets stronger or weaker.

Didn’t expect you to go there, Sir Terry, but I’m into it.

#Discworld #Samuel Vimes #Angua #Gaspode #Havelock Vetinari #I mean kinky fanfiction aside this really does intrigue me #The way it is carried out is so unusual #Angua and Carrot are dating #she matter-of-factly knows herself to be his dog #possibly because he has that almost sinister Kingly charisma #He doesn't treat her like his dog though it's all on her side #Then there's Vimes whose two most potent relationships (to his wife and to his boss) both involve him being equal parts terrified awed and #defiant? rebellious? what the right word here #Like he's all Yes Sir and No Sir and Yes Dear and No Dear and then #he'll turn around and unexpectedly put his foot down or just refuse to obey #At least to the end of JIngo I haven't read Fifth Elephant yet

[brunhiddensmusings]

So I haven't been on your blog for very long but you seem like someone who has a good taste in books. Basically I was wondering if you could recommend some good Terry Pratchett books for people like me who are new to him? (Sincerely someone who has never read a single one of his books but is interested anyway)

okay, theres a great many good books i can reccomend but Terry Pratchett’s discworld novels i can reccomend to basically everyone while still understanding that entering it may be quite daunting because its a complicated question to answer likely, start where i started, with a book thats not even one of the mainline 'paths’ of discworld, has little continuity with any of the other stories, but does a good job of at least touching base on a wide selection of the myriad cast of the world and does an excelent job of at least giving you the FEEEL of discworld complete with stunning artwork The last hero, a discworld fable

after this brief introduction of equal parts humor, philosophy, satire, and gutpunch feels you can make a decision on which ‘path’ of novels to start on next which is usually where people get lost because theres a wide selection of flowcharts that look like a troubleshooting guide for soviet agracultural equipment considering many of them end with “3.0″ or have sections crossed out and arrowed over to the left ill make it simpler, breaking it into introductory and intermediate chunks beginner- which of the following sounds more appealing to you? a retelling of macbeth in a setting where witches act like actual old ladies who get into everyone elses business which repeatedly gets elbow deep in folklore punctuated with light slaps towards shakespear or a crime/detective story set in a city where a troll/dwarf racewar is always on the back burner, the thieves guild and assassins guild are prominent political powers, and ‘wizards did it’ is a legitimate possibility to most crimes if the first is your choice start with Wyrd Sisters (also available as an animated movie but read first as much of the humor doesnt translate well from page to screen), first of the witches of Lancre path... well okay ‘equal rites’ is technically before that but its a more intermediate book you can tackle later. you dont have to immediately read the rest of the witches line unless you feel like it instead of exploring the other paths but they very much have to be read in order otherwise- the order being wyrd sisters, witches abroad, lords and ladies, masquerade, and carpe jugulum before branching off to the tangent tiffany novels Wee free men, Hatfull of sky, and Wintersmith if the second choice appeals more then sit down to Guards Guards, first of the nights watch novels and unlike the witches novels i would highly reccomend going from one to the next immediately instead of waiting till you feel ready to come back and deeply have to be read in order because a lot changes and a lot of continuity happens everywhere that gets deep. the nights watch novels are likely what i would suggest to most readers to start but i also hesitate a bit because it gets heavy in the...  heavyness. some of the best detective stories and political commentary out there. the order is Guards guards, Men at arms, Feet of clay, Jingo, the fifth elephant,Night watch, Thud, and Snuff with honorable mention children's book ‘wheres my cow’ intermediate the death novels, by now you will have met Death with a capital D and know he has all the best lines. good news! he has his own path of books with Mort, Reaper man, Soul music, Hogfather, and overlap with Thief of time. it should not be a surprise that these are also on the heavy side, the humor is a bit more dry and dark, but also surprisingly uplifting. if youve ever seen this comic you now know hwere its from

the novel where Death and his granddaughter save christmas equivalant from being destroyed by a particularly cunning assasin plot to destroy the world -good news again, that particular book is available as a movie, and Christopher Lee voices death as is the only correct human possible to even try Monstrous regiment also goes here, its fantastic with deeply political lesbian energies as well as the ‘industrialization’ and ‘moist von lipwig’ path of Moving pictures, The Truth, Going postal, and Making money. these books are where technology and economy collide headfirst with the fantasy setting youve come to know finally the advanced novels better left till after youve read a few of the others here, ironically, we put the first novels writen in the series and introduce whats arguably the most central figure in the setting, Rincewind and the wizzard path with The colour of magic, which shows its age more then the other novels as the world hadnt been finalized quite yet, its also available as a movie thats fairly decent

you will notice DRASTIC changes as you continue the wizzard path with The light fantastic, Sourcery, Faust Eric, Interesting times, The last continent, Unseen accademicals, and circling back to The last hero theres also assorted miscellaneous novels in the discworld that aren't in one of these paths such as Small gods, Pyramids, The amazing Maurice and his educated rodents, and the short story Troll bridge as well as the previously mentioned Equal rites if you want a brief synopsis of any particular book before hunting it down to know if you want to pursue it ill be happy to comply

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