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pratchettquotes · 3 hours
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"Carrot! Don't you remember last night? Didn't you wonder what I might become? Didn't you worry about the future?"
"No."
"Why the hell not?"
"It hasn't happened yet. Shall we get back? It'll be dark soon."
Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant
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amygdalae · 5 months
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thinking abt that one bit from one of the Tiffany Aching books (the one where she visits Ankh-Morpork i forget) and theres a cameo from Carrot and Angua. and Miss Treason gossips to Tiffany abt how those two are dating even though Angua's a werewolf and makes some innuendo about Angua "not biting him, unless he asks her to" or something to that effect. anyways
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Non canon discworld things i love
Nanny has dyscalculia
Granny has dyslexia and is ace
Death is aroace
Captain carrot is autistic and aro spec
angua is bi as hell
Tiffany is aroace and autistic
Lipwig and vimes both have adhd but like at opposite ends of the spectrum
lipwig and adora are both bi
otto, sacharissa and william are all dating
Ridcully has adhd and autism
Polly/Oliver is genderfluid and pansexual (I’m not projecting I swear)
Maladict is trans and uses he/they pronouns
Everyone in the monstrous regiment is some form of fruity exept shufti who is absolutely fighting for her life as the token straight
blouse is just a confused himbo
jade such a butch
Nobby likes experimenting with his gender presentation and def has a drag persona
Rincewind has anxiety and ptsd and probably some chronic pain (I headcanon him needing a cane most of the time) his hat is also a comfort item
vetinari and sybil are besties (i will die on this hill)
Im definitely missing some but I’ll just reblog this with additions while I’m rereading the books
edit bcs people keep saying stuff is canon: you are totally right, this started as me listing hcs but sorta just became me waxing lyrical abt my favourite characters
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voxmyriad · 1 year
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Ship ask: carrot and angua!
Aww, Carrot and Angua!
What made you ship it? I think the first book I read when I really noticed Carrot and Angua was The Fifth Elephant, so they were already pretty established, but they had some conflict that they resolved because they cared so much about each other.
What are your favorite things about the ship? I really enjoy the ways they find to make it work: a human raised by a dwarf who blushes at any kind of innuendo, dating a female werewolf who has to turn wolf every full moon. I like that Carrot has to learn about Angua and challenge his own preconceived assumptions about her and about werewolves, and Angua has to re-evaluate herself in the face of Carrot and whether she can challenge some of her own assumptions about herself. And it's sweet that Carrot says things like "Her bed hasn't been slept in. Her basket hasn't either." without batting an eye.
Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship? I don't really know what the popular opinions are on Carrot/Angua. I like them just as they are and I think they fit well for each other, but I don't know if that's unpopular!
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theygotlost · 11 months
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For me personally carrot has aro/ace vibes but things he has to date angua cause thats whats expected of him to do. I think be ends up loving her in his own way but yeah.....
I dont necessarily think you're wrong, BUT... idk if I could say carrot is austitic CODED, since im not sure if pratchett wrote him with the specific intention that he be read as autistic, but I definitely do interpret him that way. I personally am reluctant to ascribe asexuality/aromanticism to characters with autistic traits because I've noticed it's kind of a trend in fandom spaces that rubs me the wrong way. you do you though
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old-stoneface · 7 months
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i dont usually go in for AUs unless theyre really fitting and well thought out, but sometimes i rotate the idea of a modern earth vv au because its just funny to imagine them meeting in different ways and actually dating in like. a modern setting. continuing under the cut bc i have too much to say lmao
vimes has a flip phone and vetinari has a home phone and no cell phone. he does have a really high tech laptop tho. vimes just gets by with his flip phone. most of their dates consist of them just meeting somewhere seemingly by circumstance, and vimes finding out later that vetinari interrogated all of his friends to find out where he would be at, say, 6pm on a saturday. vimes plays hard to get and vetinari pursues him joyfully, is basically the thing, because i like imagining them both lowkey out as gay, and neither of them flaunt it but if u know what youre looking for its obvious (slowly shoehorning my vimes should wear leather agenda into this). and neither of them like the other's friends. vetinari doesnt really have friends tho. just work acquaintances. vetinari gets along with carrot but only in work settings, and he likes angua but shes sort of an asshole and vetinari is like. hesitant to get into it w her bc shes meaner than vimes. nobby is frequently bumming around wherever vimes is too and vetinari reacts with mild fascination. colon is an old work buddy of vimes' but hes only around when someone else is buying drinks. i imagine them all meeting up at a bar and later when vimes and vetinari are heading back to vimes' place vetinari is like "i have to admit, your friends are rather...strange. i dont know what my opinion is on them." and vimes is like "damn. well. unfortunately theyre here to stay" and vetinari is like "no, i meant that i want to study them." also vetinari would probably have a role in local government, like a judge or something, and vimes is like, a security guard at the courthouse and hes also a part-time taxi driver. i genuinely fully believe that vimes would not be a cop in a modern earth au because he would not stand for the shit the cops actually do, he probably trained to be one and then became a security guard instead
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Incorrect Discworld Quotes Part One
Vimes @ his squad during Guards! Guards!: “You’re my family and I love you, but you’re terrible, you’re all terrible.”
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Drumknott: “I need some advice.”
Moist: “And you’re asking me?”
Drumknott: “I know. Frightening, isn't it?”
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Adora Belle: “Are you two…dating?”
Nobby: “Yeah!”
Shine of the Rainbow: “Yes we are!”
Adora Belle: “Why?”
Nobby, slightly offended: “I happen to find Shine of the Rainbow very appealing.”
Adora Belle: “Oh, I understand that. I’m trying to figure out what’s wrong in her head.”
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Carrot: “Hey. HEY!! Everyone stop arguing. Come on, hug it out. Hug it out!”
The Squad: *awkward and reluctant group hug*
Angua: “Alright, who just took my wallet?”
Nobby: “Sorry.”
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Trev: “Imagine if someone handed you a box of all the items you've lost in your life.”
Glenda: “It would be nice to get my sense of purpose back...”
Juliet: “And- oh wow! My childhood innocence! I knew I lost that somewhere.”
Nutt:”Mental stability! My old friend.”
Trev: “Mates, could you lighten up a little?”
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Sally: “Shit!”
Vimes, who is trying not to swear as much bc of his son and has gone into full dad mode:“Language!”
Everyone: ???
Nobby: “Wait a sec, is no one else is gonna deal with the fact that Vimes just said "Language"?”
Vimes: “I know. It just slipped out.”
Angua, trying to focus on doing her job: “We need to find the culprit!”
Carrot, completely seriously: “And for gosh sake, watch your language.”
Vimes to himself: “That’s not going away any time soon…”
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Lord Rust: “How dare you mock me in such a manner!”
Vimes: “Well, how would you like me to mock you, then? I take requests.”
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Rincewind, after going on yet another life threatening adventure against his will: “No matter how many times you save the world, it always manages to get back in jeopardy again. Sometimes I just want it to stay saved, you know? For a little bit? I feel like the maid, ‘I just cleaned up this mess, could you keep it clean for ten minutes? Please?’”
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Juliet, after running into her trash fire of a family: “What's that word they use for like a weapon you make in jail? Like a knife?”
Nutt: “A shiv?”
Juliet: “I hope my dad and brothers get shivved.”
Juliet: “Just to scare ‘em. Scare ‘em good.”
Nutt, slightly disturbed: “That…that would do it, Miss Stollop…”
Juliet, darkly: “Scare ‘em right in the kidneys…”
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William: “We hadn't pegged you as a party person."
Otto: “I'm not, but parties vith you and Sacrarissa are different."
William: “How so?”
Otto: "You know how you vant to just go and stand in a corner sometimes?"
Sacarissa: “Yes.”
Otto, bashfully: “You und Villiam are my corner.”
William and Sacarissa: “Awwww!”
Otto, blushing: “Ha ha…shut up…”
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Fred: “Why are you wearing a dress?”
Nobby: “Because I look amazing!”
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(Shine of the Rainbow and Nobby going on a zoo date)
Shine of the Rainbow, who’s never been to a zoo in her life: “What are they in for?”
Nobby, trying not to laugh: “It’s not a prison, luv.”
Shine of the Rainbow: “So they can go?”
Nobby: “Well, no…”
Shine of the Rainbow, pointing at a penguin: “I bet that one killed somebody!”
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burnsopale · 3 years
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 I am deeply intrigued by Sir Terry Pratchett’s master/pet kink. I choked on my cereal when Gaspode told Angua that Carrot was now her “master”, and if he called her she’d have to choice but to go to him. Didn’t expect Pratchett to be horny on main. It’s ballsy. Mad respect.
And he didn’t just repeat it in Jingo, having her say the same thing plainly to Vimes, but by using dog-imagery with Vimes as well (Everyone is somebody’s dog, Vetinari’s terrier etc), he links the concepts, and so Vimes’ relationship with the Patrician becomes kinky as well. The coming and going on command also has a parallel; Vimes thinks twice (once in Feet of Clay when Vetinari dismisses him from his bedside, and once in the Prince’s tent in Jingo) that Vetinari can turn him on and off like a switch.
There is also, a little more tenuously, the characterisation of the guild dogs as dogs who are always afraid that they are “bad dogs” deep inside, and Vimes’ similar feeling that he’s just a “collection of bad habits”. But I’ll have to read Fifth Elephant and beyond to see if that connection gets stronger or weaker.
Didn’t expect you to go there, Sir Terry, but I’m into it.
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the-evil-duckling · 3 years
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And now that Pride Month's over, Let's Talk About Pratchett.
The companies have taken down their flags. The marches and rallies are fading away. Rainbow colours are melting back into grayscale. And now that all the hubbub is dying down, let's talk about an author who did perhaps more than any other to introduce gender-and-sexual minorities to the public (and not just as a cute oddity to be cooed at from a distance, either).
Let's talk about an author whose works are perhaps the most representative, hard-hitting, and wholesome, in all of well-written English literature.
Let's talk about Pratchett.
Before we dive into the lovely little nitty-gritties, I want to just take a quick look at what Pratchett's writing really is, and what makes it so very exceptional. It's pretty simple, really.
He's funny.
That's the "secret" formula to Terry Pratchett's success across the global; he's funny everywhere, everywhen, across multiple generations and multiple decades and multiple geopolitical borders. You don't have to read Discworld with a lot of effort, thinking deeply after every line about the message the author is trying to convey. You don't have to analyze every character and every situation to see how the author is sculpting a crystal-clear mirror and holding it up to the face of Society. When I'm feeling down (cause college and life and pressure and dreams) and wanna start gouging out my forearms with my nails, I can just curl with one of my comfort books (like Men At Arms, or Unseen Academicals) and laugh and chuckle and just feel better. You can just enjoy it.
Now, I think, I can get to the fun stuff; analysing all of my favourite characters and the roles that they represent in mirroring Pratchett's view of People. (I should mention at this point that I am mainly going to be focussing on the Sam Vimes novels, and what I will be writing are my own thoughts and opinions. Anyone who knows more - or has just read/interpreted the books differently - is of course free to add their own musings.)
Fred Colon: Sergeant Colon is that rarest and yet most typical of things: Fred Colon is an ordinary person. He is no hero, or genius, or leader. He is not evil or even mildly malicious. And that is the very point that needs to be understood. People (most people) are not deliberately evil; they are, on the whole, fairly decent people who treat their friends well and try not to make enemies. It is just... petty selfishness, petty prejudices, petty apathy... all summated in every single member of the populace, and suddenly everyone knows that dwarfs are just money-grubbing bastards who'd bite your kneecaps off for a copper coin and trolls are dumber than the rocks they're made off but they'll as soon smash you to pulp as look at you and you can't trust a vampire cause they're too dead to be alive and-
Carrot Ironfoundersson: Captain Carrot is a cliché. Captain Carrot is a cliché wrapped inside a trope hidden in a Mary Sue, all turned on its head. Captain Carrot, rightful heir to the throne of Ankh, leader of all manner of beings, man who once beat Detritus in a fistfight... is not the hero of this story. In any other series, the story would have been of a brave new cop (who is also the king) standing up to the corruption and lawlessness of the Patrician while taking advice from his grizzled old half-drunk commander who dies four chapters into the first book with some vaguely portentous words that the hero remembers at the very last minute to give him the tools/strength/motivation necessary to keep fighting. But this is Pratchett. And the hero of the story, if there is one, is very much the grizzled old commander. Two other points have also always struck me about Carrot. The first is the matter of identity. Biologically, Carrot is very much a human, but in all other ways that matter he is entirely a dwarf - his name is Kzad-bhat, and even the deep-down dwarfs do not question his dwarfishness - and yet that does make him any less a human. In this is reflected the multiplicity of identity (not just of gender, which is what most people immediately jump to, but all identities). The second point is of the relationship between Carrot and Angua, which seemed to me a representation of a healthy dom/sub relationship. Unlike the twisted shit we find on ao3 (and in some published books that I don't feel that I need to name), Angua is at no point portrayed as lesser, weaker, incapable, dependent, or deferent. She is her own person, and the two of them just happen to have this kind of chemistry.
Samuel Vimes: Ahhhh. His Grace, His Excellency, The First Duke of Ankh, Blackboard Monitor Samuel Vimes, Commander of the City Watch. The protagonist, if not quite the hero, of the series. He is not perfect, not even close. He is casually discriminatory (species-ist?) and thoughtless in most of what he says. his saving graces are that his discrimination is universally applied at all beings living and dead, and that he has never, not even once, allowed his personal feelings of prejudice stand in the way of justice (which is at times, all that separates him from Fred Colon). Does that mean that it's all okay, and everything is now fine and dandy and hunky-dory? No. Not even fucking close. Words matter and actions matter and even how you feel deep inside - all of it matters. Prejudice is prejudice, and it is always wrong. there are no mitigating circumstances, no 'yes, but...' that can make it acceptable. But only an idealistic idiot would say that it is not better than the alternative. And this is the reason that Vimes is one of my favourite protagonists; he is not a hero. He is real.
Leonard of Quirm: A parody of the public perception of a genius (perhaps of Roundworld's Tesla and da Vinci), I have loved Leonard as a character ever since I realised he was gay. Allow me to elaborate. As I was recently re-reading Jingo, I noticed a line that went something like 'He started drawing how The-Going-Under-The-water-Safely-Device could be improved, piloted by a muscular man who was not overdressed'. And just like that, a couple dozen other off-hand comments slotted into place and I realized the homosexual truth. And I love this portrayal of homosexuality, because most books or movies or tv shows or fanfictions with a gay MC (or even sidekick) tend to have a storyline roughly equivalent to 'hey my name is [insert name here] and I'm GAY and I have a destiny to save the world and my family and my GAY boyfriend whom I'm dating cause I'm GAY and before I go outside I have to pick my outfit really carefully better go with salmon-rose-flutter pink cause I'm GAY and now I'm outside and I'm not very popular and this is my tragic backstory cause a lot of people don't like me cause I'm GAY and-' Yeah. This is not good writing. By barely mentioning anything, Pratchett somehow still managed to emphasise that a) homosexuality is one of your identities, not all of them and b) just because a story has a character who is gay doesn't mean that the story becomes about a character being gay.
Trev Likely: One sentence. Just one sentence. 'Hating people was too much work.'
If you actually made it this far, you are obliged to reblog. I'm sorry, but I don't make the rules. (Please?)
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the16thtower · 3 years
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Some Discworld headcanons
Sibyl is definitely bi and had a couple of relationships with some of her female peers at boarding school - she was very popular in that regard and is still friends with her exes to this day (especially since most of them are now dragon breeders)
On that note, Sibyl dresses very butch when she isn’t going out into high society and keeps her hair very short for ease of dragon rearing
Carrot had the classic long and elaborately braided dwarf beard growing up but got reluctantly persuaded into shaving his beard when he entered human society in an attempt to fit in. Once he’s been in Ankh-Morpork for a while, he grows it back
Carrot keeps squeaky toys around the Watch House for Angua for stress relief
Moist being the epitome of fucking around and finding out has definitely has sex with dudes as part of a scheme, and would probably be open to the experience again if it wasn’t for the fact he’s married
To be more specific, I reckon Moist has been someone’s boytoy (aside from Adora’s) at least once
Drumknott and Lord Vetinari are both gay but not dating - the two of them are far too professional to jeopardise the quality of their work by fraternising and they aren’t each other’s type but it’s nice to have a fellow gay at work
Leonard created the first water pistol after he created the gun and Vetinari keeps it in his desk just in case the need arises
Granny Weatherwax returns to the Shades every year for a month or so for a change of scenery - she has definitely exchanged words with Commander Vimes at one point over the Watch’s reluctance to step foot in the Shades
Eskarina returned home a little after the events of Equal Rites before returning to reattempt magic academia when she was an actual adult - she deserves a proper childhood and also a chance to go to school because she’s very smart and someone needs to teach this 9 year old how to read
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pratchettquotes · 1 year
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"I've found something very interesting that you will be very interested to see," said Carrot, after a while.
"That's interesting," said Angua.
"But I'm not going to tell you what it is because I want it to be a surprise," said Carrot.
"Oh. Good."
Angua walked in thought for a while and then said: "I wonder if it will be as surprising as the collection of rock samples you showed me last week?"
"That was good, wasn't it?" said Carrot enthusiastically.
Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay
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promithiae · 3 years
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ok slow burn/fake dating/enemies to lovers discworld version:
Angua von Uberwald, Adora Belle Dearheart, Susan Sto Helit
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Witches version: Nanny Ogg, Granny Weatherwax, Magrat Garlick
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Dude version: Carrot Ironfoundersson, Moist von Lipwig, Ponder Stibbons
Bxndmfncksmnckc ok ok ok.
Fake date Angua to piss off her family before she escapes to ankh morpork, enemies to lovers Susan while working as a janitor for the school (seriously, what's with all the pigeon doings??? And yes I am 100% the reason there's never as many chocolates in her desk as she expects), slow burn adora (but more like long-term pining while being completely intimidated because omg she's so hot and so scary)
Fake date nanny ogg, but it's totally a fast-burn. Slow burn granny (like super slow hahaha. Worm my way under her skin). Enemies to lovers magrat, especially when she's queen and trying to make changes to the kitchens
I feel like fake dating moist is the obvious but can you imagine how fucking funny it would be to try and fake date carrot? The man can't even whisper because he feels like he's lying. So enemies to lovers moist because he would have so much fun and I could definitely make it dangerous (though not more dangerous than spike and her little Lucretia stilettos). Slow, comfortable late night coffee and pizza and friendly theoretical debates with ponder.
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theygotlost · 1 year
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i feel like i always have more to say about discworld when im complaining about something i didnt like. i guess cause the parts that are good are so self evidently good that i feel like i dont need to talk about them. but i absolutely LOVED the fifth elephant. I was so so SO happy that sybil was there and finally got a chance to get back in the spotlight a couple times. i love angua so much. i love cheery so much. i loved vimes fighting for his live against the werewolves. i loved the ultimately irrevelent subplot where nobby tried to unionize the watch. i am a little bit disappointed by carrots role in the book though. you guys know that i think carrot and angua's romance is nothing and theres zero reason they should be dating. i find it hard to believe that carrot would actually feel jealous or threatened by gavin and it felt a bit out of character. but thats a very minor complaint that doesnt really influence enjoyment of the book as a whole :)
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chechula · 6 years
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some Carrots for Jess ! Carrot(talking about historic sight of Ankh- Morpork and wonders of dwarf bread ♥ ) on date with Angua and Carrot babysitting little Sam :3
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