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sugasugasuga · 7 years

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(me rambling about my theory about i need u/run/the prologue which i wrote back in march and never got around to posting)

so i just watched the prologue, which i didnt even know existed and rewatched i need u and now the parallels between run and i need u are so glaringly obvious how did i not pick up on them first of all, i haven’t read any other peoples theories yet, except for that everyone thinks that jin is dead and one person who said that there is no timeline and that its all jin’s dreams/memories etc and that he has peter pan syndrome and is scared of growing up (which relates to dope). im not sure if i agree entirely, especially with the timeline part. so im gonna take this way too seriously and im going to rewatch all of the videos in order of the release date and see what i think after that right now i just think its mainly about becoming an adult and letting go and growing apart from the people you were close to, brotherly love, mental health and guilt and its repercussions and how it can isolate you, even from the people you thought you would be with forever side note that i added later: ive also rewatched the japanese versions and planned on including them and even though there are some parallels like the lilies and butterflies, which are really cool and i love all the subtly connections man. they dont really add anything to the story, theyre more about the dance, i think, which is cool too and those 2 videos are basically my aesthetic. theyre kind of the mv i would have expected for i need u and run, so even though i think theyre good, its interesting that they decided to do something a little more unexpected. i did see a comment that pointed out that it says “goodbye jin on the wall in the japanese version of run but 1) that just makes me feel even more like jin is the first one that decided to accept that he has to grow up and leave his childhood behind through removing himself from his friendship group, which represents his “youth” or childhood. i think its jin because he’s the oldest in the group and also kind of explains why jungkook, the youngest was the one who stood behind everyone else in the last shot and looked into the camera?? kind of?? idek 2) i still dont think jin is dead i think it just looks like “goodbye jin” thats like how it also sounds like rapmon is saying “fall, fall, fall, im naruto” in the beginning of the japanese version of i need u ya feel

i need u

the only thing i dont really dont get about this video is that the lyrics are about a romantic relationship. the video works, and the lyrics basically do too, except for “I need you girl Why am I in love alone, why am I hurting alone I need you girl Why do I keep needing you when I know I’ll get hurt?I need you girl, you’re beautiful I need you girl, you’re so cold I need you girl I need you girl I need you girl I need you girl Girl, just tell me you wanna break up Girl, just tell me it wasn’t love” and the other times when they mention “girl”. everything else, like all the other songs aren’t inherently romantic except for this one. maybe it represents v’s thing with that girl and that other guy, though, so i guess it works. or it could show that obsessing over a girl and crushes and falling head over heels for someone is part of growing up or something. jin already stands out in this one. there’s something very different about him. i think the story is told from his perspective. i think the way he carefully places the lilies (are the petals he puts on the floor lilies?) shows that this is something he cherishes, but then he sets it on fire because he knows he has to let go of it and move on. im not sure what exactly that is but i think its either his childhood, a romantic relationship, codependency or his friendship group. the parts on the train tracks and the campfire show that theyre only really happy when theyre together (like when j hope burns his pills) and that spending time with each other is kind of a safe haven where they remember the “good old days” from the prologue. the styling and the suspenders and cardigans and springerstiefel and stuff that theyre wearing is basically the exact kind of clothing they wore then. i think jimin burning those polaroids will be more important later. im still unsure about the part right at the end where theyre all asleep, though. maybe it just reinforces the idea of a safe haven and that as long as they are united, they dont need meds and dont feel the need to be violent. i need u (original version)

yeah, i think what i said about the other version applies to this one too, its just more graphic. i think i like this version more, it feels like the other one just didnt tell the whole truth. i think its good that there are two versions though, so people who are triggered by blood and that kind of thing can still watch it.

the only thing that seems like its worth mentioning is the lily thats projected onto jin’s heart, which also works perfectly with what i said before.

i also like the part where jimin is leaning onto the side of the bathtub, it seems to me like that kind of shows that even if you have the strength to “get out of the bathtub” and deal with whatever it is that is making you suffer, it doesnt end there. you still have to deal with the repercussions. alternatively, the bathtub is his other ‘safe haven’ and his way of blocking out his problems/the real world/etc. idek prologue

the first minute where v is sitting on the floor seems like it happens right after i need u, but then the rest is a memory.

the polaroid and the video camera and the suspenders and the lack of modern technology give off this vibe that its in the past, and more of a childhood memory, whereas he’s using an iphone in the first minute. it shows that whenever he’s had a problem before (like something with his family because of the polaroid he is crumpling), he knew he could rely on his friends to be there for him in no time. it seems like jin is kind of shy, almost purposely distancing himself from the group because he doesnt want to interrupt, he’s definitely a part of the group but this just gives off the vibe that those are his memories, that he is narrating but im not sure why i feel like it is. at first the memories are childhood memories, because of the way they tackle each other, rock paper scissors, pretend sword fights, jungkook trying to balance on the fence thing… after the first blackout when rapmon writes on the mirror (you need to survive - again, providing emotional support and stuff), theyre older (inbetween the childhood memories and v killing the other guy) and definitely less light hearted. jin’s polaroid either shows some sort of old memory they shared (seems more likely because its a polaroid) or a perfect place they created together to escape reality. they have a phone instead of the more old fashioned cameras, so that confirms the time period its set in. the gas station feels like it shows that rapmon is kind of stuck in his home town, and didnt really end up where he wanted to be i can’t put it into words i just feel like it is the end, where v jumps off the thing feels like he’s starting to change or do something different and everyone else isn’t quite sure how to deal with it, but they encourage him, i think, and it just seems like the first step to them drifting apart a little bit. after the end credits, i think time has passed and jin has decided to come back to that place where they were so happy alone, but its not the same and the polaroid shows that he’s alone and that everything has changed run

this is the one where im going to start sounding really pretentious i think v right at the beginning is related to him jumping of the thing, but for some reason it just feels like it represents his anger and guilt after doing whatever he did to that guy. it came out of nowhere but it completely engulfed him and now he’s completely alone and he’s “surrounded” by it, like his mental state and feelings are inescapable and he has to deal with them alone. then rapmons ice cube and coke are kind of mimetic of that and maybe rapmon wiping the coke into his shirt and seemingly being put off by it represents him not being as willing to help v anymore, almost being fed up because they’ve just grown apart. i think this isn’t real. this is just memories and them desperately wishing that their friendship could still help them escape like it used to.

“You are my only sun, one and only in the world I bloomed for you, but I’m still getting thirsty It’s too late, too late, I can’t live without you Though my branch runs dry, I reach for you with all my strength”

their friendship is the only reason they “bloomed”, why they were happy, or even alive. i think thats why j-hope’s mental health has worsened (since he’s now in what seems like a hospital) and why he uses their friendship almost like a coping mechanism. they “bloomed” for each other and now they “can’t live without” each other. “No matter how far I reach for you, It is just an empty dream dream dream” i think thats also why there’s that one scene where kookie is sitting on the floor while everyone is partying but then when the camera zooms out, he’s alone. “Let me run more Please let me run more Even though my feet are full of scars I smile whenever I see you” “Don’t tell me bye bye” “Only thing I can do is love you” “Everybody say it is over but I can’t stop this” “Curse me, this foolish destiny!” i think all of this shows how they desperately cling to this friendship, which is almost like their “youth” but it’s “destiny”, its predetermined and they can’t do anything about it. kookie and suga’s fight seems like it represents that they just dont understand each other in the same way they used to. “Like chasing butterfly or wondering in dreams I follow your traces Please guide me please stop me Please let me breathe” I think the butterfly relates to “butterfly” playing while v was jumping off the thing and the “Please guide me/Please let me breathe” is mimetic of him falling into the water at the beginning of run, feeling like he’s being suffocated by his feelings and problems and guilt and that he needs the others to help him get through it. but id like to believe that him coming out of the water at the end, by himself, shows that he didnt give up and that he manage to do it by himself and that he’s learnt to live without the others. //

in short, i think that i need u is real life, the prologue is their childhood and run is what they wish for. the last scene with jimin feels like its showing how painful reliving those memories is or that his friendships could have “rescued him from the bathtub”. they could have even turned this awful thing he is experiencing into something enjoyable, and at the end of the video he also decides to let go and stop living vicariously through the memories by burning the polaroid. and i think jin disappears from the polaroid because he doesn’t feel like he’s part of the group anymore, its like his past life, and all he has are memories that are ultimately just causing him pain and he needs to forget. “Memories are crumbling like dried flower leaves” i think that references the lilies that jin burnt in i need u. he’s letting go of the memories. epilogue: forever young

addition from 19th april 2016 the epilogue just came out and wow i was not prepared for that 23th april: ok now im ready to talk about it properly what i really, really like about this one is that it seems more autobiographical. it’s the fear of not being relevant forever, disappointing the people that support and look up to them. i think that this video was such a lovely way to end (i think its the end?) this era because it supports my “interpretation”or “belief” that ultimately, there was a “happy ending” and that no one is dead. its always seemed strange to me to have this whole era about youth and growing up and then bringing death into it, and i think this video just supports that further. while i was watching the video i kept thinking “The only way out of the labyrinth of suffering is to forgive.” (because i am trash) they’re escaping the “labyrinth of suffering”, which seems like the the fear of growing up, changing, that the “applause can’t be [theirs] forever”, by accepting and continuing to “run towards [their] dream”. thats what leaving the maze, the running and the airplane represent. i think theres a difference between deciding to let go of something (thats what run was) and actually having moved on and starting over. this is the new beginning. and id like to believe that they can still be together, despite everything. they dont need each other anymore, but they still stick together and got through run. maybe its not a happy ending but its a new beginning.

blood sweat and tears - japanese version

addition from 9/10th of march bc bts will never fuckign let me live:

I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH THIS THEORY I WAS SO HAPPY WITH IT BUT HERE THEY GO AND RELEASE THE JAPANESE VERSION OF BST

my initial thoughts r that i don’t really like it??? dont get me wrong all of the shot individually are cool, but im not sure how well they work together tbh. ive only watched the mv once, and it was a lot to take in, so maybe it'll grow on me. this is v strange bc as i said, i usually just ignore the japanese versions?? theyre pretty (usually lol) but they dont say much??? or at least thats what i thought. ok. after watching it once, here’s some thought vomit: the whole storyline of these boys might be a literal ‘riches to rags’ story? maybe the luxury doesnt just represent ageing, but actual wealth and this whole thing is more autobiographical than i thought at first. they brought the fukign truck and the gas station and the cigarettes back. i mean,, i still dont think anyone is dead. i think the jin-lighter thing happened bc like. okay. in run? inu? rapmon had a lollipop, not cigarettes. those are a pg/cheaper version of cigarettes (bear with me here) and jin giving him the lighter shows that he knows how rapmon has changed, and is willing to support it? maybe to show that they still know each other well? that they support each others growth??? maybe its another temptation thing??? but like, in australia smoking is super super expensive so maybe its just another class thing? well i looked up the price of cigarettes in korea, and they did rise the price in 2017 as far as i can tell but it still doesnt seem expensive enough to make sense? plus, the story was obviously started waaaaaay back... ok im gonna rewatch the mv but i wont properly theorise until i have the time to rewatch all mvs, i feel like i cant have a valid opinion until then anyway. more rambley thoughts: jin’s illusion shattering right at the end? maybe? the apple is an obvious symbol for temptation, jk being the youngest and also being the one semi forced to drink the thing, possibly related? also, rm getting him to drink it? related to him being tempted by jin later on in the mv but earlier on in the story, showing how it spreads????? maybe the japanese version shows the downsides, everything bad that the korean version omitted? showing the glamours/good side/facade, japanese mv more realistic??? r there literal drugs involved? after these special effects, no one can be certain. also before he drinks it he's wearing a hoodie and more inu era stuff but then it cuts to his korean bst version whose all fancy so it shows like, his transformation? at first he's forced to drink whatever the thing is, then he licks it off his finger bc he's embracing it and it like, shows the cost? and the addictiveness? that the destructive thing comes with a price but he/they do it anyway. wtf is going on with jimin inu era clothing seeing jimin bst era and then just exploding??? maybe like, how shocked his old version would be by what he has become?? why was jin sleeping in the truck in inu era clothes tho. is that why he came back?? j hope bow and arrow seems real in the korean version but it seems more like an illusion in the japanese mv so maybe its all a goddamned illusion who even fuckign knows at this point i need to get my thoughts sorted out before i actually write anything.

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