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I just love how obsessed Apollo is with humanity like he's so obsessed they made him god of civilisation I just know he's up on Olympus kicking his feet and giggling everytime humans find a new thing

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This is so Andromache/Hector omg my fellow Iliad artists we know what to do

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Hyacinthus: *does literally anything*

Apollo: I love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him i love him. BY OLYMPUS I LOVE HIM.

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Apollo and Hyacinthus commission :D

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I'm back and I bring you ✨️pain✨️

Based on this one scene from Encanto with Mirabel and Abuela

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Olympian twins.

Artemis & Apollo.

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a little Apollo and Artemis painting :D

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No thoughts, head empty, only Apollo

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archer twins

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they weren't gay, most greeks viewed homosexuality as something akin to eating dirt, quit fooling yourself

So, the mere existence of homosexual people depends on social acceptance? Well, it seems I missed that email. And since there's still plenty of homophobia out there, I suppose I should just cease to exist now. Bye bye!

[Note: If you're wondering why I won't dignify this lovely person with a serious response, feel free to check out my pinned blog post. Clearly, they don't have the mental capacity to express themselves reasonably or even begin to understand what my argument is actually saying.]

#greek mythology #patrochilles

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an introductory description of the greek club except it’s narrated like the meet the plastics scene in mean girls

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ℭ𝔥𝔞𝔪𝔭𝔦𝔬𝔫 𝔄𝔭𝔬𝔩𝔩𝔬

'' I whose rays make the lines of thunder, And whose altars the universe worships; I whose greatest gods would fear war, Can I take mortals without dishonour?

I attack in spite of myself their proud envy, Their audacity overcame my nature and fate; For my virtue which is only to give life, Is now forced to kill them.

I free my altars from these troublesome obstacles, And trampling on these brigands whom my darts will punish, From now on everyone will come to my oracles, And prevent the harm that may befall him.

It is I who penetrate the hardness of the trees, Tear from their hearts a learned voice, Who silences the winds, who makes the marbles speak, And who traces to fate the conduct of kings.

It is I whose warmth gives life to roses, And raise up the buried fruits, I give duration and color to things, And bring to life the radiance of the whiteness of the lilies.

So little that I am absent, a cloak of darkness Holds with cold horror heaven and earth covered, The most beautiful orchards are funereal objects, And when my eye is closed everything dies in the universe.''

''Apollon Champion'', Théophile de Viau, (french poet, 1590-1626)

Bust of Apollo, marble. Late XVII/ XVIII°

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I've just re-read the short lived duel that Aeneas and Achilles have in Book 20 of the Iliad and it's actually the most hilarious fucking thing.

So it starts out with Apollo disguising himself as Lycaon, one of Priam's many sons, and telling to have a go at Achilles. Keep in mind that this is post-Patroclus Achilles. Aka: berserk Achilles. Aka: so fucking mad he would fight a literal river Achilles.

Aeneas, who is capable of critical thinking, says he doubts he can actually take him on. He also references a time when he was herding cattle on Mount Ida and Achilles ambushed him, adding that the only reason he survived then was because Zeus gave him enough strength to book it (cracking up the official times that he's been saved by a god from certain death to 3, you go dude!).

However, after a bit of back and forth and a ton of hyping up on Apollo's part, Aeneas decides to try anyway.

Like, what could possibly go wrong?

Achilles notices Aeneas charging at him and he begins to taunt him. It's something among the lines of: "I'm sorry, are you, background trojan character #61, actually gonna try and beat me? And then what? Do you think that Priam will reward you in some way? Maybe making you king after him? Well it's BULLSHIT, because Priam fucked so much that your chances of succeeding him are basically 0. Ahah. Loser."

Now, you'd think that maybe Aeneas got enraged at the comment and attacked him, or maybe he even got scared and backed down, but NOPE. What does Aeneas do?

Well, first of all, he insults Achilles' insults, comparing his bickering to that of a child. Literally, "I heard third graders do better than that." And then he decides to list his and Hector's entire fucking family tree.

You know that part of the Bible that's like "this guy sired this other guy, and this other guy sired yet another guy" and so on? It's basically that.

So after he's done with all that, Aeneas states that while he'd love to have a battle of insults with Achilles, because according to him he's actually very good at insulting people (his words, not mine), they should probably throw hands now. Achilles agrees.

The duel is shortlived and Aeneas gets his ass handed to him. Badly. As expected. And he's about die when ✨️POV shift✨️ we're not on Olympus where Poseidon, Hera and Athena are watching this absolute train wreck go down.

Poseidon, pitying Aeneas, suddenly goes on a rant. It's something among the lines of: "come on guys, look at him, he's just a little guy! He literally has no stakes in this war, he doesn't deserve to die here! He even gives us lots of gifts and sacrifices, he's literally such a nice guy. How can we do this to him!?

...oh and also he's part of some prophecy, Zeus would get mad if he died."

The fact that the way it's worded makes it sound like Aeneas being part of a literal prophecy is an afterthought to him absolutely floors me, Poseidon is literally just attached to a random dude that's fighting on the opposite side to his because he thinks he's nice.

After all that Hera is pretty unimpressed and states that she really doesn't care if our man lives or dies as neither her or Athena have ever saved a Trojan from death, she however adds that Poseidon is free to do whatever he wants.

The literal moment Hera stops talking, Poseidon lunges down from Olympus and onto the battlefield to look for the two combatants. When he does, he saves Aeneas like only he can do.

You know how when Diomedes first tries to kill Aeneas, Aphrodite gently folds her hands around him to shield him? There's none of that here. Poseidon just runs up to him and literally flings the motherfucker.

It literally says that he flies "high in the air". It's like a Looney Toons sketch.

So Aeneas lands and, while he's obviously a bit dazed, Poseidon proceeds to call him a madman and essentially tells him to never do something stupid like that again and just wait until Achilles is dead, then he'll be able to murder Achaeans to his heart's content. Aeneas is fine with that.

Achilles, who just saw his opponent just get yeeted into the fucking sky, just shrugs and goes "welp, guess that guy's off limits, I'm gonna go kill someone else now I guess lol".

This entire scene is pure fucking gold and the fact that I've literally never seen anyone talk about it just breaks my heart.

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Personal prayers based on epithets 💜

Artemis 🌙 🦌 🏹

Praise to divine Artemis of the wolves and of the deer. She of the hunt and of the fire. Swift running archer who haunts the forest and roams in the night. Shooter from afar.

She of the hymns. She who soothes. Light-bringer Phoebe. Willow-bound and royal Diana. Beautiful empress who bears a golden sword on a golden throne. Strong-voiced revered maiden.

Beloved and loving priestess. Holy guardian who stands before the door. Immortal torch-bearer. Goddess queen of beasts. Praise be to Artemis, deliverer and savior.

Apollo 🎼 ☀️ 🦢

Praise to holy Apollo with the silver bow. Bright son of Leto and of Delphi. He of the oracle. Prophetic healer and foreseeing averter of harm. Light-bringer and destroyer of evil.

He of the locusts and the wolves. He of the python and the dolphin. He of the ash-trees. Rescuer and helper. Wandering physician. Far-worker and rouser of armies.

He who watches the heavens. Leader of the muses. He who protects the streets and bestower of Dionysus. Praise be to Apollo, shining light of the sun.

Hekate 🗝 🔥 🐕

Praise to mighty Hekate, destroyer and child of Perses. She of the underworld. She of the wayside and the crossroads. Irresistible and indomitable queen of those below. Holy bringer of light.

She who holds the keys. She who haunts the mountains. Nocturnal one. Fond of solitude and hidden. She who wanders in the night. Lovely and revered only begotten maiden.

Immortal guardian and spinner of fate. Leader of the dogs heralded by roaring beasts. Three-formed protectress at the gate. Praise to Hekate, attendant and guide.

Let me know in the tags if there are any other deities you'd like to see! 💜

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!!This comment only serves as an example. I read similar statements on a daily basis!!

The Iliad, as a complex literary work, does not explicitly define the nature of Achilles and Patroclus's relationship in precise terms. While their bond is portrayed as exceptionally strong, the text leaves room for interpretation. Consequently, scholars and readers have different viewpoints on the nature of their relationship, ranging from friendship to romantic love. Engaging in definitive statements about their sexuality overlooks the inherent ambiguity and richness of the text, reducing it to a simplified binary discussion.

Moreover, what many people seem to forget is that the Iliad is not a historical account. As of now, we cannot determine if the Trojan War happened. The information we have suggests that there might have been conflict in the same region during the time. However, especially the characters associated with the war, including figures like Achilles and Patroclus, are more likely mythological constructs, literary inventions, rather than historical individuals. Hence, talking about their sexuality, many people ask questions that are wrong and useless in the most absurd and mind-numbingly stupid way.

By examining the text, we can infer that Homer portrayed a strong emotional bond between Achilles and Patroclus. This emotional connection is not presented in a negative light, suggesting that such relationships were not necessarily viewed as inappropriate or problematic in ancient Greek society. No, it indicates that emotional male bonds were valued and celebrated at that time - or at least by Homer (who is also a semi-mythical person). What we also do by asking questions surrounding their sexuality is attempting to apply modern concepts of sexuality, such as the contemporary understanding of being gay, to ancient texts. No, Homer certainly didn't portray them as gay - because "being gay" simply did not exist before the invention of the concept of homosexuality. Did he, however, make sure to explain - in one way or another - that their relationship was purely platonic and devoid of all romantic/sexual nature? No, he did not. Why is it then that so many people feel entitled to not only ask fundamentally wrong questions but also to shame people who like the interpretation of them being a romantic couple? You're making this way too easy. The only questions we can answer by reading the Iliad are:

1) How does Homer portray male bonds and relationships in the Iliad, and what does it reveal about ancient Greek society's attitude towards such bonds?

2) What recurring mythological themes or narratives are present in the Iliad, suggesting their popularity during the time of the composition?

3) As readers, how do we interpret the nature of the relationship between the literary figures Patroclus and Achilles in the Iliad?

I swear, if I see one more person saying "They weren't gay", like they went back in time, proved that the Trojan War actually happened, explained the concept of homosexuality to Achilles and Patroclus and got them to come out to them, Imma go and fight a river.

#greek mythology #greek myth #the iliad #patroclus x achilles #patroclus and achilles #patrochilles #tsoa #the song of achilles

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Dear fellow scholar and supposed troll of the internet,

I understand your concern about inaccuracies in the portrayal of Greek Mythology, but I think you may have misunderstood the purpose of my post. The post was not intended to serve as a scholarly analysis of Patroclus, but rather a lighthearted and humorous take on the character. You raised a valid point about the importance of critically examining the portrayal and the manner in which we talk about the sexuality of characters who existed before the concept of homosexuality was invented... but this, my friend, is tumblr. Tumblr posts utilise incorrect quotes and memes to allow for a playful exploration of mythology, inviting the readers to consider these ancient tales through a modern lense. By embracing anachronism, satire, and humour, you provide an avenue for people to engage with mythology in a way that is accessible and relatable. This approach can spark curiosity, ignite discussions, and ultimately contribute to a broader appreciation and understanding of Greek mythology. I have studied both history and literature for several years now and, god forbid, never claimed to be historically accurate on this account. But what I am doing is simple: Keeping mythology alive. If one of us is "dumbing down" things, it's you and your narrow minded ass. ❤

Patroclus: Achilles is so handsome.

Briseis: You’re handsome, too.

Patroclus: I’m not JEALOUS, Briseis. I’m GAY.

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Briseis: You know that voice in your head that tells you that you're doing something wrong?

Achilles: You mean the one that sounds like Patroclus?

#greek mythology #greek myth #incorrect greek mythology #patrochilles #incorrect greek gods #the song of achilles #tsoa #patroclus x achilles #patroclus and achilles