Is is bad that I'm hoping CP continues on with her lack of promotion and isn't included in the panel? I'm really hoping this panel will be focused on Daryl and Carol's story and not include the "other woman". And hopefully the panel moderator or whatever doesn't pull another "vibe" comment
I really want the panel to focus on Caryl's story too, but why punish CP when she hasn't done anything to shipbait or gaslight us? If anyone should be booted from the panel, it's Zabel and Nicotero (if he's scheduled to be there too). I have no interest in hearing them go on and on about Daryl being torn, having deep connections with people he just met, and getting the opportunity to "grow" after Carol was pushed out of S1. AMC's goal should be hooking their core audience, not chasing us away.
If there any shipbaity-ness, my guess is we're gonna see a lot of it in E1. Carol's not there yet so Daryl still has free reign to have those little "intimate" moments with Isabelle that they try to push on us. And there was that script leak awhile back that suggested a shippy, soft type conversation between Daryl and Isabelle.
That's the sign of a writer who doesn't understand Daryl's character at all if he thinks Daryl has "free reign" to test the waters with someone else in Carol's absence. Daryl is extremely loyal. To Carol. To his family, not strangers he's known for five minutes.
As far as we can tell, Caryl are going to be separated for the first half of the season at least, so I guess I have to go into those episode dreading Daryl's side of the story? That's not the spinoff I want.
Side note: I know all about the leaked sides a while back. I read them lol
If Caryl happens, I don't think it will be in S2. I think S2 will focus on both Carol and Daryl dealing with and healing from their traumas. From there, in S3, if Carol is even part of the story, then there may be time to explore something more. Too bad I won't be sticking around for that. I've been waiting long enough.
Well, that's the problem, isn't it? S3 can't gain the momentum it needs if Caryl aren't canon by the end of S2. Trust needs to be earned. There is plenty of "time" and plenty of ways to get us there even if Caryl don't reunite until the last block, so they don't get to use that excuse. It comes down to how well AMC is listening to Melissa and to the core audience instead of conflating very different markets and letting EPs who don't even give a fuck about these characters mark their territory.
Do you think you could get some enjoyment out of tboc if we don鈥檛 get canon?
You're asking me if I'm willing to settle for less than what Caryl, Melissa, and Caryl fans deserve because Greg Nicotero and David Zabel refuse to look past their biases, and my answer is no. Explicit canon represents the payoff after an agonizing wait made worse in the last couple of years because of so much mistreatment and gaslighting Melissa and her fans had to face. Canon is a natural step in Daryl's and Carol's individual journeys as well as their shared journey. To find home is to find each other. It's a dealbreaker for me. Between no canon and constant shipbaiting, you'd have to tell me where the hell the joy is. And please don't say "having Carol back" because I can be happy to have her back and still expect her story to be honored.
What's important to me is that Daryl and Carol stay true to themselves, get to go on adventures together as an established couple, confront their traumas in powerful ways, and help each other heal and grow and get stronger. Those adventures could happen anywhere. I don't care. They just need to be in the right hands.
Do you think you could get some enjoyment out of tboc if we don鈥檛 get canon?
You're asking me if I'm willing to settle for less than what Caryl, Melissa, and Caryl fans deserve because Greg Nicotero and David Zabel refuse to look past their biases, and my answer is no. Explicit canon represents the payoff after an agonizing wait made worse in the last couple of years because of so much mistreatment and gaslighting Melissa and her fans had to face. Canon is a natural step in Daryl's and Carol's individual journeys as well as their shared journey. To find home is to find each other. It's a dealbreaker for me. Between no canon and constant shipbaiting, you'd have to tell me where the hell the joy is. And please don't say "having Carol back" because I can be happy to have her back and still expect her story to be honored.
I'm looking forward to hearing what Melissa and Norman have to say about their individual and shared character arcs. It's been a long couple years, and I really want TBOC to be a wonderful experience for Caryl fans. I want the story to be everything that Daryl and Carol deserve.
Book of Carol. Melissa McBride, Norman Reedus to appear at the Tribeca Film Festival Festival in NYC June 2024.
What's important to me is that Daryl and Carol stay true to themselves, get to go on adventures together as an established couple, confront their traumas in powerful ways, and help each other heal and grow and get stronger. Those adventures could happen anywhere. I don't care. They just need to be in the right hands.
What's important to me is that Daryl and Carol stay true to themselves, get to go on adventures together as an established couple, confront their traumas in powerful ways, and help each other heal and grow and get stronger. Those adventures could happen anywhere. I don't care. They just need to be in the right hands.
Is something going on with Norman? Melissa asked him if he's okay and he said no. 馃ズ
He seemed very anxious. Hope everything's fine and it was just his nerves.
Not my place to dig into that "something," but it had Norman holding onto Melissa鈥檚 hand and not wanting to let her go. Evidently, he needed her support and she was there for him.
So I guess we should not be expecting any actual news or teasers/trailers or quotes from McReedus last night at Upfronts? That鈥檚 not the purpose of upfronts?
If any news or other soundbites come out, it'll probably be light. I don't expect to learn too much more than what we already know for right now.
Sorry if this is a silly quesion....but what are the Up Fronts exactly? We know talent comes but what else do they do?
Not a silly question 馃檪 Upfronts are when networks give a presentation to advertisers so they鈥檒l hopefully invest in their shows that year. Having talent there helps them see what it is they鈥檙e buying into. AMC showing off McReedus/Caryl last night is also a good indicator to us that they want to sell TBOC as *their* show together and capitalize on their chemistry. Now if only we could have some consistency 馃檭