watching his character go from one of the most generous and kind members of the server to the most ruthless and corrupt individual has been played out so well. imo this has probably been the best corruption arc on the server (sorry wilbur). sam built the prison so he could help people (the pay was practically nothing for what he did); serve the server ya know. and with dreams imprisonment saw the beginning of his character turning to cruelty and inhumanity. the overwhelming knowledge that you are responsible for the server's greatest threat is bound to break any man, and it did.
we watched sam start to care less and less about dream, treat him worse and worse; his voice became harder, he started to lose the heart he was so well known for.
the turning point was quite obviously the death of tommyinnit
right after tommy died and came back, we saw sam grieving and beating himself up over it. he played a part in a childs death and suffering, and he couldnt stand that about himself. so he isolated himself, he lost his self confidence and became the unstable shell he still is. quackity using that to his advantage is undeniably wrong but so so hot and quickly aided in the deterioration of sams character. but it played such a big part in his corruption. he quite possibly could have healed and reflected enough to realize what hed become when he was on his sad little island, but quackitys manipulation and exploitation of a broken creeper, left us with this hot mess.
the hot mess that will do, or not do, anything to make sure his one goal is met: keep dream in prison. Hes become one-track minded (cough wilbur corruption arc), losing the part of him that cares for other things, other people. he told tommy himself he didnt care about him, he permanently hurt ponk, he let another person die, on his watch. whether ghostburs death was justified or not, it is undeniable that sam did, and does, not care either way. and now, because of himself, hes made sure his goal will not be met.
I am frustrated with c!Sam. I’m mad that he treated Tommy terribly, in the way that many others on the server do. But while I am a Tommy apologist, I am also a Sam apologist. Which is wonderfully contrasted rn tbh, BUT makes me put even more emphasis on the fact that Sam is not evil or completely in the wrong, he’s just s t r u g g l i n g.
Sam cares. I know many of the tommy enthusiasts saw how Sam reacted and reacted with “He was supposed to care! He was supposed to be the one that was there for him!” And yeah! Man, I was pissed too, you can look back at my posts crying in the tags! But the reality of it is, Awesamdude cares so much. He cares probably the most out of everyone on the server besides Tubbo and maybe Ranboo! But, he’s also the prison warden.
The problem we have here is, was that Sam used to be the perfect candidate for watching over the prison. This is because Sam used to be one of the most neutral people on the server, with no involvement in anything and no conflict of interest besides the friends that didn’t mind if he participated or not. But that changed. He became involved with the Eggpire after an attempt to force him to join. He joined up with Puffy after seeing how dangerous it all was. He started to get to know Ranboo, only able to stand by and watch the problems he deals with. He aided Tubbo whenever he needed it, and he got to know Tommy after all those hours helping with his hotel. He got attachments. And that’s where the conflict comes from, because the minute Awesamdude started to get involved with other people, he had to start making the choice between keeping Dream in the prison and focusing on the people he cared about.
And not only does he now have attachments in the picture, but the job of the warden is a mental strain in itself. Sam mentioned it to Foolish, about how he rarely sleeps, he cries himself to sleep because of how the prison affects him, and how he rarely leaves it, so he can make sure nothing happens. It’s a terrible job.
And Tommy gets trapped in the prison with Dream. He’s faced with his first choice. Get Tommy out while the prison is still having security problems, and risk letting Dream out- or keep them both in there until he can figure out what went wrong, fix it, and let Tommy out with no risk. So he really only has one safe option here, because it’ll only be a week at most, and Tommy’s safe. And at this point, Dream has adamantly pointed out how important Tommy is to him, he said he wouldn’t kill him, and mentioned how important he is to the server. Sam couldn’t have known that Tommy was going to die. HECK we weren’t convinced it was a canon death at first. But he does. And Ranboo was right, he had options, but if Sam wanted to keep everyone safe from Dream, that was his only option. And Tommy’s death absolutely shatters him. We see that he went out to his own island during the time Tommy was still dead, made him a grave, and mourned away from the chaos. He sees himself as a failure. And then Quackity comes to him. So yeah at this point, Sam is devastated about Tommy death, and Big Q suggests to kill Dream. And MAN IF THEY DID THAT THEY WOULD’VE FOUND TOMMY ALIVE BUT YKNOW PAIN. anyway.
But then, Sam refuses to. And Tommy is revived.
So he sticks true to the words Tommy gives him after he leaves the prison. To not let anyone in to see Dream, and to make sure he never gets out. And that’s what’s so ironic about all of this, is that everything he does from this point on is to stick true to that, so that this never happens again. But now we have another factor to add to the pile. The revive book.
And Quackity comes to him, once again. And now Sam’s only goal right now is to make sure he keeps Dream in, because he failed Tommy once and he can’t let it happen again. But now the revive book is a problem, so Q comes to suggest they get the info from Dream. He has his own intentions for this, but tries to get Sam to let him torture Dream. Which mind you was most definitely manipulation. Big Q may not have meant to, or not have seen it as that, but Sam was used while he was vulnerable and his feelings were used against him to agree with Big Q. So yeah, Sam agrees, so he can get avenge Tommy and not let Dream hurt anyone else. He’s convinced that it’s the right thing to do.
And then here comes Tommy, also, once again. I’d say Sam’s highest priority at this point is the prison, which I mean fair, but that means it’s also priority over the people he cares about. And we’ve seen now multiple times how far Sam will go for this damn prison after Tommy’s death. He’s killed Ponk, and tortured him for keycards. He killed Foolish. He lets Quackity torture Dream. So when he sees Tommy’s axe, he’s presented with another choice, a choice to be made quickly. Kill Tommy or force him to come back. And for Sam, this is the guy who said to make sure to never let anyone in, and don’t let Dream get out. Right now it seems like Tommy is trying to let Dream out. But he doesn’t kill him. With protocol, he should. But he doesn’t.
He’s now presented with a second choice, because after he brings Tommy back, Dream is now threatening to kill + revive Ghostbur. And of course he doesn’t send Tommy back because Sam thinks he’s trying something to let Dream out. He needs to get the security threat, Tommy, out of there. He leaves Ghostbur there and closes the lava wall. Ghostbur is revived. And all heck breaks loose.
Both Tommy and Sam are to blame here at least a bit. And Sam is out of his mind, because TOMMY said not to let Dream out, and he thinks TOMMY is now trying to let him out. He’s angry and panicking because once again, someone died under his watch. It wasn’t fair of him to blame every problem with the prison on Tommy. He also didn’t let Tommy explain what he was trying to do. It wasn’t fair of Tommy to put Sam in that position. Honestly that whole thing was fucked from the start.
But to conclude, Sam is not a bad person. He’s a good person who’s done some bad things. And they were with good intentions too. God Sam is just trying to keep everyone safe, but he’s doing it all alone. He’s losing himself in taking all of the burden alone, and is constantly being put in the position to choose between people and keeping Dream in. He needs help.
He’s trying to protect people from not letting them in. He’s trying to stick to the protocols of the prison, so there’s some order to keep Dream in there. And, he’s trying to figure out how to handle the newfound knowledge of the revive book. It’s too much for him to do alone.
And we come face to face once again, after a long analysis, of the true villain of the server. Miscommunication and misinformation. :D
anyway, those are my thoughts on this, most of it is just me thinking about why Sam does the things he does, because even after all of that he still put Tommy as a priority and didn’t kill him. So I mean. That’s something. Share your thoughts if you’d like!
I think I've finally settled in my mind why Wilbur saying "I never cared about L'manberg" doesn't ring true.
It's not that I don't believe him, because, with that line as context, looking back, it's very believable; it makes sense that he was interested in it as a way to "stick it to the man" during the rebellion, It frames his desire to call an election as a certain dissatisfaction and insecurity with his own power, and It puts his blowing it up into a new light.
Wilbur also loved L'manberg.
He loved it. He wrote to Phil with designs for the flag. He wrote an anthem. He risked his life and fought a war.
"L'manberg, my unfinished symphony--" is not the anguished declaration of a man who does not care.
And the disconnect that both the audience and Tommy are having with these statements, is in the fact that Wilbur isn't lying.
But he is omitting something crucial; Why.
And the answer is, ironically, people.
Wilbur didn't care about the nation he was creating, it could've been anything, anywhere - but he cared about the fact that he was creating it with Tommy.
He cared about the fact that Tubbo jumped at the opportunity to help them and supplied the materials for the first incarnation of their walls.
He cared about the fact that Eret spent hours refining and building the walls out taller and more beautiful.
He cared about the fact that Fundy was born within those walls.
The walls didn't matter. It wouldn't matter if someone built them back up overnight, and restored L'manberg to it's former glory and served it on a silver platter to Wilbur.
So, so similar to Ranboo, but also fundamentally different, is how much Wilbur believes in people, and how he sees them as inextricable from sides - he knows how powerful the allure of a cause to believe in can be, and he's been on both sides of the dangerous fallout when people stop believing.
A side is, ultimately, a way to find your people. If you're on the same side, those are your people. The L'manbergians may have been brought together by a man who didn't care about the land, but they didn't join for the land. They built the land. They joined for Wilbur, because they wanted to be on his side, and he was on theirs, and the form that took was a nation.
And likewise, the thing that destroyed Wilbur wasn't the loss of L'manberg - it wasn't losing the elections that got him in the end, it was his people; abandoned, betrayed, forgotten.
L'manberg is his unfinished symphony not because the walls fell, but because Fundy tore them down; not because Schlatt was on the podium, but because Tubbo was killed there; not because Tommy didn't want to follow him anymore, but because Tommy didn't believe in him anymore; because Eret (wilbur) pressed the button.
L'manberg started as a drug van that got busted by men who were stronger than they were.
L'manberg started as an uphill battle against men who set their forests on fire after they declared they used words and not weapons.
L'manberg was a way to stick it to the man.
(The man had more of a problem with Tommy than he ever did Wilbur.)
all /rp - this gets a little bit tommy crit i guess, but more “this specific thing he did was bad” than “hes bad”. make your own judgement call!
ok so ive seen this post go around my dash a few times with a clip of tommy apologizing to jack about killing him as a way to refute jack saying hed never been actually apologized to before wilbur, and while yes, technically tommy apologized in the clip, it was... an extremely bad apology? analysis under the cut
here is the first bit of the transcript from the original post, color coded:
green (words spent apologizing): 10
yellow (words spent trying to excuse his actions / venting): 54
red (words spent expressing that tommy thinks its jacks fault he was killed, or actively guilt tripping him for not visiting sooner): 25
tommy spends about eight times more words being dismissive, victim blaming, deflecting blame etc. than he does apologizing- and when he does say “im sorry”, he fails to elaborate, actually take responsibility, or even adress what he did wrong, which is kind of the whole point. a good apology (see: wilburs) is much more than just saying “im sorry” and leaving it there- tommys fails on even the most basic levels.
(note: im not trying to say that tommys feelings about being lonely in limbo arent understandable and valid, but an apology after you kill someone is not the place to express them)
so yeah. while jack had technically been apologized to before, it was a legitimately terrible apology and i completely understand him forgetting it was ever supposed to be one, and seeing wilburs apology as the first (real) one hes gotten. jack absolutely still deserves a decent apology from tommy!
So Tommy said earlier that he feels like problems on the server never really get solved. Instead we get more loss, like Ghostbur’s death.
He’s asked why he’s gathering stone and Tommy says it’s to prevent a problem - so it doesn’t get out of hand.
The problem in this case is obviously Wilbur - Tommy believes Wilbur’s return is going to bring serious problems and Tommy wants to stop him from tearing the server apart. We know that Tommy no longer feels strong enough to fight in more wars - he’s been too beaten down. But he’s not giving up, he’s going to be active about stopping Wilbur.
Or rather, saving Wilbur. Tommy’s gathering stone, just like WIlbur asked. He’s going to work with him, going to go above and beyond about gathering as much stone as possible in some attempt to gain Wilbur’s attention, to be on his side and maybe get him to trust and confide in him.
Tommy tells Foolish some of L’Manburg history and says how he was okay when he was banished by JSchlatt as he was confident they’d win L’Manburg back. He said they’d talk about it, find peace. But WIlbur… he said Wilbur had given up on talking because he wasn’t strong enough. Wilbur wanted to be treated poorly (Tommy says, perhaps in reference to Wilbur declaring themselves as the bad guys) so he treated others poorly. And he blew up L’Manburg.
Tommy says he believes there’s still good in Wilbur. He is a good man, deep inside - but he’s been a bad guy for a long time. Not inherently a bad person, but his bad actions make him bad and its a position Wilbur is seemingly trapped in.
“He claimed to me, Foolish, that the nation We built together, he claimed that it was all just a rouse for power. Now I think Wilbur’s just being a bad guy. And that’s okay, we’re all bad guys, everyone messes up, you learn the most from your mistakes. He’s made so many mistakes, so many that have hurt so many people but… what this is gonna be about, isn’t giving him a second chance, isn’t giving him a third chance - it’s not about chances! It’s about making sure you don’t give up on the people you care about.”
Tommy doesn’t want to fight Wilbur. He doesn’t want to challenge him and have a war and defeat him. He wants to be there for him, to keep caring for him, and he’s not going to believe in the worst in him.
That’s why Tommy’s collecting stone. Tommy’s tired of fighting, tired of taking lossess. Trying to kill Dream and losing Ghostbur hurt him deeply once more but Tommy’s not the type to give up. He’s choosing to believe in Wilbur once more.
This is Tommy’s position, this is the stand he’s taking. He’s going to do his very best to save Wilbur and find that precious peace. He failed once, but he’s not going to give up.
AS THE PERSON WHO MADE THAT MEME ID LIKE TO PROFUSELY APOLOGIZE-
I already loved Foolish before he interacted with Tommy, I had just got excited to see two of my comfort streamers interact together finally haha
I promise it wasn't intended to come off as that way :'D
MOTHERFUCKERS ONLY START CARING ABOUT FOOLISH ONCE HE TALKS TO TOMMY I HATE IT HERE
ive already seen one post in the awesamdude tag saying “friendship ended with c!awesamdude now c!foolish is my best friend” and i swear to god. if people did what they did to sam to foolish ill be so mad. foolish stans i am SO sorry