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I love that in “Replacements,” Omega tells Hunter that’s they’ll find a way to get Crosshair back somehow.
Lo and behold, Omega did find a way to bring her brother home ☺️
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i’m getting emotional about a lot of things ending about bad batch but damn am i gonna miss those cryptic tweets from jennifer and the kiners. that shits been torture for the past three years but man i’d do anything for them to continue
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So I have been thinking of what line that’s said in the next episode is some people’s favorite of the series. Beating out stuff like the Tech Omega talk or the “when have we ever followed orders” I am pretty convinced it will be an Omega line. But I think it needs to be something more than Omega just calling hunter dad or some variation of that. I still think that’s coming, but I don’t think that will be next episode. I have a feeling it will be something more on the badass side.
But that’s just the thing I can’t actually image what the line could be and that’s what makes it fun. So what do you think the line could be and more importantly who is Omega saying it to?
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Echo channelling his inner James bond
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Arc trooper training coming in clutch
Fives would be proud
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Been listening to EPIC the Musical and “Storm” is so Bad Batch on their way to Mt. Tantiss coded
It’s such a banger
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Echo & Unshakeable Trust
If we really want to talk about how Echo and trust are intertwined then I think we need to start at The Bad Batch arc of The Clone Wars in season 7. We see pretty clearly that the batch doesn’t trust him, even before they know him. They make snide remarks, doubt him, and are ready to take him down if he crosses them. Hell, they’re sure he’s a traitor. One of the earliest examples of this is when Hunter first claims it’s a trap. He even says they’ll tag along with the mission even just to say ‘I told you so.’ Oh how wrong he was. How wrong they all were.
They venture into Skako to save Echo, following Rex’s intuition and going along with it even if they don’t agree. They go, they’re not trusting about it, but they go. What they find is Echo, being used as the algorithm for the Separatists. Rex has no reason to doubt that this is against Echo’s will but the batch… they’re not so sure. 
Echo’s plan to escape through the vents is what saves them from Wat Tambor. They have no choice but to follow his plan, even if they aren’t sure if they can trust him yet. But following along and going with it is what gets them out of there. That doesn’t mean it fixes the doubt. The batch even hesitates before walking across the pipe to escape. They’re still sure he’s screwing them over. They have no idea why Anakin and Rex follow Echo’s plans blindly, even when they’re objectively ridiculous. 
Rex trusts him. Always. Every time. When Rex hears Echo’s voice he doesn’t ever doubt that Echo is still alive and on their side. Even in the bad batch season 3 when he’s questioned about whether or not Crosshair gave them all of the information Rex doesn’t doubt that Echo handled it and they have no reason to question that. It’s such a beautiful thing to watch. His faith in Echo has always been unshakable. Just as unshakable as Echo’s faith in himself. At first Rex isn’t sure Echo is battle ready after being rescued; it's never about distrusting Echo, it’s about not being sure he’s ready yet. Has he healed enough? Is he stable enough to pull this off? It’s care, caution, not doubt. 
Echo even points that out: ‘I’m not a liability, Rex.’ Mace Windu really had me cheering when he says if Echo has a plan then he’d like to hear it. When Mace asks if Echo is certain he even responds with ‘Absolutely.’ Echo doesn’t doubt himself and he isn’t about to start now. This confidence is something we see from him a lot. From how he plans, how he moves, what he says. He knows he’s good at what he does. It’s so refreshing to watch him be so confident and grow in that confidence as time moves forward. 
It’s here we start to really see the batch mistrust Echo. Tech voices this most often, followed by Hunter. Tech isn’t sure of Echo’s plan. He even goes as far as to say that ‘We don’t really know where his loyalties lie.’ You know what’s incredible about this? Rex follows it up with ‘Well, I know.’ Because he does. He doesn’t doubt Echo, has no reason to. The batch, however, isn’t ready for that yet. 
When Echo sends all the droids to the assembly complex and successfully shuts them all down is when both Hunter and Tech - the two who were the most vocal about their doubt in him - are ready to accept that Echo is on their side. He isn’t fighting against them, he never has been. They’re ready. Echo has proven himself without ever even really trying to.
Echo: ‘Was there ever any doubt?’ Tech: ‘Some.’
Echo trusts himself totally. He’s been trusted by his squads, by Fives, by Rex, by Cody. Hell, even Anakin, Mace, and Obi-Wan trust him. He’s been surrounded by people who are convinced of his skills. Being confronted by the batch who doesn’t trust him doesn’t even really faze him. He knows his intentions, he doesn’t need to fight their doubt. He just does what he’s always done and he proves himself in his actions. This confidence he has in himself is what carries him through everything and we only see that grow over time. (This post by @phantom-of-the-501st demonstrates how much he’s grown perfectly. Please go read it. It's amazing.) 
The batch saw him in action when they first met him, they had their time to doubt, and once Echo had proven to them that he was trustworthy and skilled they’ve trusted him fully ever since then. Hunter trusts him to be his second in command - the mission where they save Gregor comes to mind. He always hears Echo out and usually follows him into nearly certain death even if he doesn’t agree. Hunter trusts his word and he knows he wants only good things for them even when they don’t agree on how to get those good things. I think it’s especially important to note that they do disagree often but that is never cause to accuse the other of something in bad faith. The batch even trusts him to lead them into Kamino, right into enemy territory, when Hunter gets taken at the end of season 1. They follow his lead, listen to him, and know he’s got this. They’d never doubt him. Not for a second. Not now. Not when it’s Echo.
And of course we have this most recent episode, the thing that spurred this all on for me. This episode only solidifies for me that trust is a main thread in Echo’s story. He gets them a ship, has a disguise for Rampart, and he is ready to take on the brunt of their mission when things start to get dicey. Crosshair does say something about how Echo can’t infiltrate the ship alone which I am certain is more about worrying for him than it is doubt in his skillset. Letting Echo go into enemy territory without anyone else is difficult for them but they know he can do it. They always know he can pull it off, even if it’s absolutely ridiculous. When Rampart starts to bad mouth the plan Crosshair is right there with ‘Relax. Echo’s on it.’ I am still absolutely losing it over this line. To see Crosshair go from ‘besides, he’s just a reg’ to his hand on Echo’s shoulder in their first mission after they meet to ‘relax. Echo’s on it.’ That… That makes me so emotional. Of course the plan will work. It’s Echo. He’s got this. He knows exactly what he’s doing and he’s quick on his feet. It’ll work out. It’s Echo.
To follow that line with Hunter’s ‘Echo will come through. He just needs more time.’ just further solidifies that they wouldn’t doubt him, not anymore. He’s proved time and time again that he’s got this. They’re prepared to go with whatever scheme he proposes. He’s just as bad as them but he’s also got the skillset to back up his chaos. He fits in well. 
Echo is a skilled man. He’s an excellent strategist and he gets shit done. The batch has learned to trust him with their lives, as quickly and as unshakable as Rex’s faith in him. I think this is a beautiful thing to have seen over the course of our time with the batch. The batch puts their lives in Echo’s hands more than once and they don’t doubt him. Just like how he doesn’t doubt himself. The people around him trust him because he owns what he says, because he can back his shit up. 
It’s rather fitting that the intro quote in the last episode of The Bad Batch arc in The Clone Wars (S7 E4 Unfinished Business) is: Trust placed in another is trust earned. They learned a lot by watching Rex’s unshakeable faith in Echo and they knew that’s something they could do too by the end of their mission together. He proved his chaos, his strategies, and his intellect were invaluable. So much so that they wanted him with them, whatever that was going to look like. 
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Thank you for the tag @robotsandramblings
Last song I listened to: technically Gregorian chanting because it helps me study but otherwise the Celebration song from Return of the Jedi
Currently watching: The Bad Batch 😁
Sweet/savory/spicy: savory all the way
Relationship status: single 😢 I know my perfect man will come eventually; I just need to wait a bit longer
Current obsession: The Bad Batch (particularly Crosshair)
Currently reading: “War and Peace” by Leo Tolstoy and “Thrawn Ascendency: Lesser Evil” by Timothy Zahn
Tagging: @dragonrider9905 @marcysbear @hannagoldworthy @foxxxtransformer123
Nine People I'd Like to Know Better
@lenniedoesthings tagged me in this, tysm 🥹
Last Song I Listened to: I think it was Spanish or Vanish from that new duolingo musical lol... If not probably Army by Ben Folds.
Currently Watching: So many things (mostly rewatches). Includes Anne with an E, the Good Doctor, MHA, and the Saw Franchise.
Sweet/Savoury/Spicy?: I love them all 💀, but probably spicy mostly!
Relationship Status: Single and probably for a while yet!
Current Obsession: Probably the Batfamily atm... trying to work my way through the comics is hard, though!
Gentle tagging (no pressure <3)
@snowy-astrophile @lavender-115 @studyblrspace @ros3ybabe @lintroller777 @study-diaries
(Don't think I'm mutuals with anymore people, so instead of 9, 6 I guess lol)
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The Echo girlies are the Crosshair girlies of season 3: limited screen time, but every time he shows up DAYUM is he stealing the show
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Crosshair's character in TBB honestly makes a lot of sense when looking back at CW. He and his brothers have such an implicit trust in each other (something we saw in "Into the Breach"). With the exception of Cody, Crosshair says "we don't usually work with regs." The Batch is literally Cross' ride or die and it's not surprising he expresses a sense of superiority in S1 of TBB. He literally spends all his time with his brothers who show off just as much as he does. And when Rex says to leave Cody in Kix's care, Crosshair voices his concern. From the very beginning, loyalty is something he highly values.
Every single time Crosshair opens his mouth and makes a rude comment, Wrecker always comes in to defend him. I can imagine Crosshair just getting so comfortable with making comments because he knows that his brothers will defend him. When he falls from the pipe on Skako Minor, Wrecker doesn't hesitate to jump after him. Cross also trusts Wrecker to not let him fall when they jump on to the Keeradaks.
Crosshair is also very quiet and observational. He's the first to notice danger and the one to hang back to be the lookout. The amount of faith his brothers have in his abilities probably means so much to him.
Now, imagine you're Crosshair in TBB S1. Your squad, who've been your ride or die since day 1, leaves you behind and you don't know why. That implicit trust that was once there is gone. That loyalty you once thought you had didn't matter apparently. But you still want them to come back because of how tight knit your bond used to be. Not defending his choices, but I bet that's what was going on inside his head.
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I rewatched the CW Bad Batch episodes and it feels so long ago since we saw the team whole. Not to mention the old armor since the boys recently stripped theirs. Their CW vibe was so goofy and sibling energy. Now, they're worn down and dead set on saving the most precious person in their life. The tonal shift is kinda shocking at times.
Hunter and Wrecker have become much more serious. They've grown and have suffered great losses. Comparing past and present feels like night and day. Hunter now comes with dad mode and is so determined to find Omega. Wrecker isn't as loud or impatient.
Crosshair is waaaay different. To be fair though, he's suffered so much both emotionally and physically. The snark still exists, but he's practically an open book when compared to his first appearance. He's so expressive and talkative now. The Empire broke him and then Omega swooped in to help. I started doing a character study for him because there is so much to talk about, but that's a post for another day.
Echo is also more serious. It hit me, but there is such cruel irony about his fate with the Techno Union. Echo's whole schtick was that he couldn't stop repeating orders. He wound up captured and was left in a state where he could only relay orders. That's pretty twisted.
Just some observations because of the tonal shift. TBB is so dark when compared to CW. That being said, I'm so grateful for both these shows and I love them.
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I love seeing Crosshair getting the love he deserves!! I remember the dark days when liking him was considered… controversial to put it mildly. As a huge Crosshair fan, that wasn’t a pleasant experience. He’s a fantastic character and it’s fun to look back and see how much he’s changed.
But seeing his story play out his been truly remarkable and I’m so happy that the fandom has been enjoying it as much as I have
You know what's been absolutely wild to see? Since season 3 started airing, the characterization and portrayal of Crosshair has shifted through the fandom.
Like any recent fic characterizes him in a completely different light and it's pretty remarkable to be watching this shift in real time. Anyway I've been eating this up thank you for your service 🫡
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Omega and her brothers ❤️
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everyone be quiet i'm manifesting
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Ep. 13 "Into the Breach" Review
This was another fantastic episode that packs so much into its 25 minute runtime. Seriously, the finale better be like an hour. I feel like there's so much we have to address, yet so little time. My faith in you doesn't waver Jennifer; you've guided us through thick and thin. I will say that Rampart is surprisingly a really fun character to revisit and I enjoy watching him interact with the Batch. This man doesn't learn, but he's funny now so I give him kudos for entertainment purposes. I loved the dark atmosphere as the finale draws nearer and near. This is the end of the Bad Batch. We know it and they know it.
As usual, spoilers below:
MAMA ECHO RETURNS!!! After so long, he graces us with his appearance and he serves. I loved everything from his action sequences to his sass. Watching him sneak around the Imperial ship, rolling off of crates and working his magic was awesome to watch. That's why he's the Arc Trooper. And boy was he funny too. If it were possible, Rampart would've definitely be set on fire. Between being told he was being demoted to being denied the title of "sir," Rampart was demolished by Echo. It's just so good to see Echo again. I love him so much for his kind heart, quips, and awesome action sequences. The writers delivered!
Rampart, Rampart, Rampart... what will we do with you? He certainly hasn't changed and probably never will. But honestly, I kinda hope he doesn't. Sometimes, people are just aholes who do the right things for the wrong reasons. Rampart provides an interesting moral perspective. And he's still hot. Seeing him cleaned up in the uniform didn't help either. I'm a simple woman guys. He's also hilarious and I love it. Rampart's ego is so big that he unintentionally comes across as whiny and comical. Going forward, I seriously wonder what they'll do with him because he's going to Tantiss. Will he get dropped off? Sell the Batch out? Die in the battle that is to come? Next week will tell. I'm glad he was brought back though. He did his job as a villain well. Now, we get to see him in different situations and it's fun.
Omega, my sweet bean, hang in there. This episode does so well in establishing just how much she's grown over the past few seasons. Omega's always been resourceful and clever. Seeing her scheme to escape the Vault was exciting. You can also see the influence her brothers, particularly Hunter, have had on her. Omega's become more confident and mature. She's a leader in every sense of the word. The other kids look to her for guidance as she plans an escape. I also want to give the other kids a huge hug; I can't imagine what it must be like for them. It's one of the darkest things we've ever seen in Star Wars. Also, Emerie and Scalder rivalry definitely is gonna end with Emerie's true motivations being discovered. Scalder's not gonna let her allow Omega to slip away.
And seeing the boys strip their armor of all their color... that was legitimately heartbreaking to watch. I see it as a symbol of finality. There is no going back once they get to Tantiss. Hunter's "negative" just cements that. The last 5 minutes of the episode were so tense as the boys hitched a ride. As a my discord friend put it, "all roads lead to Tantiss."
There were a lot of smaller moments I enjoyed too. Wrecker was pretty funny this episode. Crosshair and Hunter voicing their trust in Echo was sweet. It furthers just how much the Batch truly trust and know each other. It's that implicit trust that makes me love their dynamic so much.
Anyways, that's all for now. We're truly in the endgame guys. After so long, we've finally made it to Tantiss. All that's left is to get Omega, the children, and escape which is so much easier said than done. I'm so scared yet excited for what's to come. See y'all next week!
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I'm worried for Crosshair
Specifically, why are they waiting so long to address what happened to him? I wonder what kind of emotional payoff this will have as the finale draws near.
Spoilers below
Ok, so the Batch are officially on their way to Mt. Tantiss and about to rescue Omega from the clutches of the evil man with a bad haircut. We are literally two episodes away from the finale and Crosshair still hasn't told us what happened yet. It makes me wonder how he'll react when he gets back to Tantiss. His hand will act up no doubt.
But he's basically repressed everything. He masks his worries so well and brushes it off whenever someone asks. I speak from experience with anxiety. Eventually, it all comes out. You can hold it in and even push it aside because something comes along to take your mind off it, but you have to face the feelings at some point. He's opened up a bit to his family, but he hasn't revealed the full story yet.
Could Crosshair have a full on panic attack on Tantiss? What if the Batch accidentally wanders into the room where the conditioning happened? Or will he be cool as a cucumber because his beloved sister needs him? If they've waited this long to tell us what exactly happens during conditioning, then it's probably gonna be really emotional.
I could see a final CX-2 showdown where Crosshair faces his trauma once and for all. CX-2, I'm 99% sure, is strictly meant to be Cross' narrative foil and that's it. No identity. No surprise reveal. No shock value. Just the physical representation of what Crosshair escaped.
Why do you think they've waited this long?
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Me: and then Rampart helped the Bad Batch find Mt. Tantiss
Time traveler from 2021 who just wanted to find out if Crosshair reunites with the Batch:
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Seriously, try explaining this to our past selves. We’d never guess
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Some food for thought
spoilers below
I sincerely hope that we get one final conversation between Hunter, Wrecker, and Crosshair before they get to Tantiss. I was kinda hoping we'd get something in "Into the Breach," but we didn't and I was a little disappointed. I get the rush the boys are in, but there are still some major emotional implications of what they're about to do.
There is no going back and actions like stripping their armor symbolically show us that. This is the end of the Bad Batch, whether the boys openly admit or not. They all know that and that's the sad part. Crosshair especially knows this because he was there at Tantiss.
We've followed the Batch for 4 years. We've seen them change and grow as a family. To see them acknowledge their bond and how far they've come before heading into what could very well be their demise would truly give us some closure imo. Hunter, Wrecker, and Crosshair's fates post Tantiss will most likely be permanent (aka death or indefinite exile). Echo will probably keep fighting. One last moment of comfort before the boys go in would be nice. It doesn't have to be a long scene, just something small highlighting their love for each other.
Speaking of Crosshair, I would like one nice scene between him, Hunter, and Wrecker. Crosshair does a great job masking his trauma when the moment calls for it. If you watched this episode and not any of the others, you wouldn't guess that he has any reservations about going back. But Omega saved his life. He loves her and would do anything for her, even if it means he's going to pay the price in the end. She's worth it and that's a beautiful thing. I just hope that the emotional beats of the story don't get compromised in order to keep the plot moving. Crosshair has struggled this whole season and hopefully they address it. Internally, I bet Crosshair is freaking out; his survival instincts are kicked in. However, he knows he as to be strong for Omega.
What do you guys think though. I wish we had more time for deep convos. I really do get why they can't always happen, but for serious moments, they're definitely warranted.
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