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majonmustard · 2 months
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Hey guys, I’m making a documentary on fandom and romantic/sexual love for a school project and I thought I might as well post here for some ideas from the masses
I’d also love to hear any opinions on fandom and shipping (real or fictional people). The main focus of my documentary will be on how the media we consume might be pushing the prioritization of romantic/sexual love (and even ~romanticizing it~… pun intended).
Talk to me about shipping wars, or aroace characters and how the few we have are heavily shipped, or when people go too far (like threatening creators), or anything else that crosses your mind on the topic of fandom and shipping
Please I beg- I need sources and feedback 😭‼️
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majonmustard · 4 months
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I was practice drawing and did this panel redraw and thought it came out pretty alright… so here, take it I guess idk… I spent like 10 mins on it
I’m so normal about him😭
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majonmustard · 5 months
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Loki was really out there time slipping like me playing Detroit Become Human… just- speed running every possible timeline option
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Okay genuine question
Because I sometimes see people saying “this character wouldn’t listen to this song this is a bad playlist” but I’ve never once considered what the character would actually listen to, I just musical theatre style put songs that showcase the characters arc and mindset if that makes sense…
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Miles' universe is Blank.
Right at the beginning of the movie, the lady explains that its her job to 'capture his universe', but she has no idea who this kid is, so she has nothing written.
Miles is the 'original' anomaly, who—according to Miguel—was never meant to be spiderman. It makes sense that no one quite knows what to expect.
But hold on a second, in a universe where spiderman already existed, would changing a canon event still be catastrophic when they've technically already happened?
If it is, why hasn't the universe where Miles' spider came from collapsed in on itself like Miguel claims it should? Because the spider never bit Peter Parker in that universe, I'd say that several canon events have changed, but other than chaos due to lack of a spiderman, the universe has yet to tear itself apart.
Why do they listen to Miguel anyway? Oh right, because he's experienced it the consequences of changing canon events. But in that case, wouldn't that make him the original anomaly?
It would make sense, both him and Miles have distinct powers that seperate themselves from the other spiders, like invisibility or vampire-esque teeth.
Dont let all the different versions of spiderman confuse you, they all have things in common—outside of canon events—and Miguel is an outlier in all of them.
No humor, distinct webs, and whatever the hell he injected himself with aside, Miguel has not only lost sight of what it means to be spiderman, but also managed to drag everyone down with him.
Maybe thats why Miguel makes such a good antagonist, because I dont know about you, but alot of what he explained made sense. I found myself even agreeing—greater good and all that. Sure it sucks, but thats the responsibility of Spiderman right?
But wait. When did spiderman become so cynical? As of now, Miguel is not Spiderman. Maybe he never was. I hope for Miles sake thats not true.
But back on topic. Just like that lady at the very start, Miguel also has no idea who this kid is, or how his universe is going to turn out - and thats a little scary. Especially when its possible Miles can achieve everything he wasnt able to. There are a million reasons why Miguel's univeres collaped in on itself, and I'm not inclined to take his word.
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Will Character Analysis: Panic Attacks
I did a breakdown of Will’s character a few weeks ago after my first read-through of TSATS. I went back and reread the book (mostly because I’m obsessed), and I noticed something that I don’t think a lot of people picked up on. Will was having panic/anxiety attacks throughout the course of the book.
I think this is extremely important to recognize because it gives us a better understanding of why Will was reacting the way he was during the entire quest. It also answers some questions that I previously had.
As someone who has severe anxiety and suffers from panic/anxiety attacks, it makes complete sense that Will would also. He is forced into uncomfortable and challenging situations that he can’t control. He feels useless and incompetent, especially when it comes to helping his boyfriend. And he already felt lonely, scared, and unsure before they even started. Combine all that with overstimulation and stress and you’ve got yourself a great recipe for mental disaster.
If you don’t want TSATS spoilers, I suggest stop reading here. I’m going to provide some examples from the book to help me out. This will also be pretty long tbh lol.

The Subway Ride:
As they were leaving the station, Nico asked Will to stop shaking his leg (an anxious habit). Soon after this, Nico noted that Will had closed his eyes and started using a breathing technique. He also said that Will did this often to calm down and decided to leave his boyfriend alone.
Breathing techniques are a very common way to help prevent an attack or calm them down. I’ve had it drilled into my head that breathing techniques are one of the first things to do when I feel overly anxious/upset.  
As a healer, Will most likely knows about these and uses them to help keep calm. He had just experienced a very stressful taxi ride (which he is described as clinging to the seatbelt for dear life) and is now on a train to start his journey to Tartarus. I’d be freaking out too.

The Trog Tunnels:
The second time Will exhibited an attack was when they were crawling through the tunnels with the Trogs to get to Menoetius farm. Will was complaining about feeling closed in and felt like the tunnel would collapse. He also started feeling nauseous, woozy, and forgetful. The second they left the tunnel, Will immediately needed to rest. He kept his eyes closed and felt better once he had a minute to breath.
These are all symptoms of a panic/anxiety attack. While symptoms definitely range based on the severity of an attack, the most common ones are dizziness, nausea, and brain fog. This is because your brain is tricked into thinking what is happening is a life-or-death situation. It’s pumping adrenaline into your body, but there’s nothing happening physically to you. This leaves you with a body filled with energy and a mind screaming with chaos.
The only way to really stop these attacks is to sit down somewhere you feel comfortable (literally anywhere but a tunnel in Will’s case) and calm yourself down.

The Tartarus Argument:
The fourth example is the argument Will and Nico had after the whole pigeon fiasco. The power of anxiety leads you into overthinking and what was Will doing? He believed that Nico was going to abandon him and that he deserved it. He was 100% convinced of this despite Nico’s very stubborn loyalty trait. Will literally broke down in gasping sobs, unable to think of anything but being left behind.
Will had been facing attack after attack since this moment that he finally just broke. When faced with doubt and fear and panic towards the one he loves, towards the person he trusts, coming back from that brink is almost impossible.

Tartarus:
Will was basically in a constant state of panic during the entire Tartarus trip. He was pale, shaky, loopy, and irritated. The rational brain train had left the station and it was not coming back.


As a fellow struggler of anxiety and attacks, I’m glad they added this side of anxiety, even if it was never explicitly stated. I believe that it was purposeful that both authors didn’t state that Will was having attacks because it is a sensitive and heavy topic that is hard to discuss, especially when they were covering a bunch of other bases.
The main reason I wanted to make this though was again to drive him the point that Will was not a whiny, weak-spined character. He was struggling with his own anxiety and fears which drove him to act the way he did. I always see people preaching the importance of supporting others, yet my dash is filled with angry, hateful comments towards a character that is meant to represent people like me.
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Definitely a fruity edge or two
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Hey folks
I don’t usually post things like this, but I figured I’d give it a go!
I wrote this one shot Solangelo fic (finished it last night at like 2am). It focuses on Will as a sort of character study after TSATS. I had a lot of ideas based on the little things we learned about him through the book, and since I wasn’t seeing many fanfics with this idea I decided to write my own!
Anyways, if you’re interested here it is, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts and discuss this blond boy with others :)
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majonmustard · 11 months
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The sun and the star really had Will sing/hum several times and we didn’t even once hear Nico comment on how he sounds. Nico, tell me- is Will actually good and just self conscious of his singing/ both his parents are incredible so he thinks little of what he sounds like or- is he actually really mid???? I need answers and reactions.
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majonmustard · 11 months
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he is his father's son
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majonmustard · 11 months
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hey pjo fandom, i wanna do an experiment. in the notes, tell me what your favorite nico ship is and how old you are (general ranges are fine if you don't wanna give specifics!)
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majonmustard · 11 months
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I live for every time you come back to this topic cause everything you say is so right and just makes sense. While I agree that we probably weren’t supposed to walk away with this idea, it’s just so insane how well it works!
I’m still slowly working my way through a second read through of tsats (this time annotating), but to add in something that, if thought about in a round about way, would’ve been cool to add to this theory/AU. I was reading the Persephone garden scene again and the bit where Nico can’t pick the fruit and Will can- the explanation is that the fruit isn’t as dangerous for “creatures from the underworld” and that it’s possible that it can only be picked by potential victims- I think it would’ve been cool if 1) we got a concrete answer- but more importantly 2) woah- Nico is literally from the underworld as Zagerus and that’s why this all seriously affects him rather than it just being a ~son of Hades~ thing…. I wish we had Hazel here to compare notes.
Also- creatures of the underworld aren’t affected by it and can’t be potential victims?? And then the next chapter they ask is Menoetes is concerned about eating it and being stuck in the underworld forever…. Making him a potential victim even though he’s from the underworld…. Make it make sense: it’s specifically a Nico/Zagreus trait that’s keeping him from picking the fruit (idk-)
Anyways, it’s just a cool thought, I still wish that it had meant more that Nico couldn’t touch the fruit- it was just kinda an unsettling thing that never really had an impact- so this idea at least makes it meaningful.
Zagreus!Nico posting again, because this is my life now apparently: Nyx getting mad about Nico not being all doom and gloom Underworld kid at all times and claiming he doesn't "belong" on the surface makes no sense if he's actually just a demigod. I've mentioned before that it doesn't make sense that Nyx claims that because Nico's an Underworld kid he belongs in Tartarus (short version, of the three Underworld kids we see only Nico actually lives in the Underworld at any point and there are no demigods at all—including Underworld kids—who belong in Tartarus because it's literally a hell pit for monsters), but there are layers to this nonsense.
When Nyx is talking about Bob it seems like she's mad about him changing because he's a Titan. He's Iapetus, he has always been and will always be Iapetus, Nyx doesn't think he should be allowed to change beyond being Iapetus because immortals do not change. She thinks this because she is the primordial goddess of night and has been for millennia; that's what she is, it's all she is, as far as she's concerned she cannot and does not want to change. But these two are immortal beings. Nico isn't. I can see why Nyx's belief that she can't change leads into a belief that Bob can't change, but it doesn't follow that she believes Nico can't change, because basically the only thing gods will even semi-consistently admit is an advantage demigods have over immortals is their capacity for change. Nyx has no reason to conclude that Nico can't change because she thinks she can't change, because demigods do change. That's a huge part of what makes them so valuable to gods, and while Nyx might not know that her children absolutely would, especially considering two of the three who appear in TSatS definitely have demigod children of their own (no confirmation either way for Epiales but given they're a demon rather than a god I'm going to assume no). Given Nemesis, Hypnos and Epiales are all very quick to point out when their mother is being an idiot, they have no reason not to point out that Nico is not an immortal and isn't bound to stay the same forever even assuming Nyx is right that immortals truly can't/shouldn't change or grow. It doesn't make sense for her to freak out so much at the idea of Nico changing because that's what he's supposed to do, Underworld kid or not.
Except, as my Zagreus!Nico posting always ends up saying, it does make sense if Nico is supposed to be a god. After all, a god is an immortal being who presumably, according to Nyx, should stay just as they are forever the same as she is. We know that immortals changing due to becoming temporarily mortal is considered a problem (see Apollo's nervousness that he's going to be in trouble for caring more about mortals than he used to); it makes sense that would apply even if the newly-mortal immortal doesn't know they should be immortal, and it also makes sense that a primordial goddess who's already paying a lot of attention to this kid would pick up on their former status better than other immortals would (especially since it's entirely possible that Zagreus's life and death would predate some of his cousins). Once again, I don't think this was the takeaway I was supposed to have but it is amazing how many parts of TSatS especially fit into the idea of Nico being Zagreus reborn with basically zero effort.
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majonmustard · 11 months
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Y'know, the angsty and romantic version of Zagreus!Nico features Zagreus having a relationship with a previous incarnation of Will and then they find each other again because their souls are bound together across lifetimes.
The funny version of Zagreus!Nico features Zagreus having a relationship with Apollo.
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Okay I didn't want to derail the last post but Bob saying he'll fight for Nico for as long as he (Bob) lives (as opposed to as long as Nico, who has a significantly shorter lifespan due to being mortal, lives) becomes so fascinating with the concept of Nico unknowingly being Zagreus reborn in a mortal body. Especially if we play with the two versions of Zagreus's myth to include the bit where Zagreus was originally killed by Titans. A Titan unknowingly swearing to fight for the god killed by Titans millennia earlier is a tasty idea.
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majonmustard · 11 months
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Okay okay- one more thing- whenever Nyx would say to Nico stuff like (I left my book too far away and don’t feel like getting up to find a quote again whoops) ~you’re from the underworld, you need to stay here, you belong in darkness~ it would be much more literal. She was also surprised?? That Nico lived on the surface?? Like- do kids of Hades (pjo implied there were lots before the big 3 swore off it) not usually?? Live on earth?? Or is Nyx just out of the loop? Personally, I think it’s cooler to look at it from this theories perspective that Nico wAs actually from the underworld as a God or Zagreus or whatever. That’s another reason why she dislikes Nico and his change, he very literally changed, he really left his home in the underworld.
Send help, it's 3 AM and I cannot sleep because the concept of Nico being Zagreus—not the Hades character, the myth, although still from the version where he's Hades and Persephone's son rather than the version where he's a prior incarnation of Dionysus—reborn has entered my head and decided to set up shop for the foreseeable future. It actually feels incredibly fitting from what I know about the myth of Zagreus (which is admittedly not a lot) and aspects of the books like Nico's unique connections with both Dionysus and Hades in specific and the gods in general (and possibly Bob if we do some mix-and-matching of the myths, since Dionysus-Zagreus was dismembered and partially eaten by Titans on account of the Greek myths being A Time) and the whole "When the time comes you have to tell Will the truth about who you are" thing in TSatS that goes all sorts of nowhere. I don't know, obviously I don't think it's what Rick intended but I do think it could very easily fit into the canon of the books!
...Or possibly I'm just sleep deprived. Did I mention it's 3 AM?
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majonmustard · 11 months
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OP you don’t understand, I’ve been thinking about this since the book came out- it hasn’t left my head for two weeks. While reading it the first time, I was almost (I doubted it) convinced that this was actually where the book was going for multiple reasons, yes his connections with the other Gods and him having to tell Will “the truth,” but also even with Persephone’s conversation with Will where she says to him, “But do you see the depths within him? Do you realize who he really is?” This line really had (maybe still has) the potential to have a lot of weight to it.
The other place my brain originally thought the story was going was thinking that maybe Will is a reincarnate. Okay here me out here- When the two of them first get to the underworld, even though it’s in his nightmare, and in hindsight it’s meant to be due to it’s similarity to Olympus, this line where Will comments on the look of the underworld fascinates me, “He had a confused feeling that he had been here before… His instincts told him this was all wrong.” You’ve been there before Will? Tie that into the fact that for the majority of the time they’re in the underworld, Will is losing his memories. We’re told this is a side effect of being the son of Apollo, but why his memories? It doesn’t make sense, unless- Will’s ~soul~ actually remembers being there and is rejecting being back in the underworld, he’s not supposed to be there again yet. I think this idea is really interesting because we’ve never really dived into the idea of rebirth in this universe, there’s the whole thing of getting into the isles of the blessed, so it’s not crazy to think some of the demigods could be on their second or third go.
But where do these two concepts tie together?? Zagreus is the God of rebirth. Let’s just say, for this hypothetical (AU, really) that Nico as a God, or Zagreus, or whatever, meets Will’s soul in the underworld, they fall in love, soulmate yada yada, they decide they want to be in love on earth, so, Will’s soul chooses rebirth and Nico is able to leave behind his divinity (I think he’d earn it back if he dies again tbh) and get reincarnated as a mortal. We have no clue or previous explanations on how rebirth works, but they end up getting split up. Through the power of cheese and soulmate shenanigans, Nico was put into the lotus hotel, bringing him to the 21st century where the two can happily be together. Yay. Zagreus really lived up to his title of the God of Rebirth and love can last through everything or whatever idk. It’s cute.
There’s probably a lot more that could go into this (love your tags about Nico’s powers being too much for him, chefs kiss) but that’s all I got in my brain right now- I just think it’s a cool thought and I need a 100k fanfic on the idea please :)
Send help, it's 3 AM and I cannot sleep because the concept of Nico being Zagreus—not the Hades character, the myth, although still from the version where he's Hades and Persephone's son rather than the version where he's a prior incarnation of Dionysus—reborn has entered my head and decided to set up shop for the foreseeable future. It actually feels incredibly fitting from what I know about the myth of Zagreus (which is admittedly not a lot) and aspects of the books like Nico's unique connections with both Dionysus and Hades in specific and the gods in general (and possibly Bob if we do some mix-and-matching of the myths, since Dionysus-Zagreus was dismembered and partially eaten by Titans on account of the Greek myths being A Time) and the whole "When the time comes you have to tell Will the truth about who you are" thing in TSatS that goes all sorts of nowhere. I don't know, obviously I don't think it's what Rick intended but I do think it could very easily fit into the canon of the books!
...Or possibly I'm just sleep deprived. Did I mention it's 3 AM?
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