Incorrect IZ-quotes 04
Membrane: "Son, it's not in the holiday's spirit! Now help me to annihilate Santa!"
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So there are some misinformations go around of this fandom and got treated as canon by some people. One of the things is an article that refers Zim as a "kid alien". It's misleading for some people, because it looks legit, but it is not written by people who worked on the show. It reminds me of a magazine I was a big fan of in my late teens and one of the articles talked about Wizard of Oz as a franchise. It was came out around 2017-2019 and they were like: "Unfortunately, only the first book got translated into Hungarian, so the other following books I will refering to maybe will be unfamiliar to most of the readers." "That can't be right - I thought - I read other stories from the series when I was only like a middle schooler! And one of it looked pretty old." A simple Google-research prooved that I was right. I admit, I was a little dissapointed how they got this simple information wrong. But that's not me calling people idiots. I keep telling people don't believe everything they read, despite making the same mistake before and I probably will to in the future (I thought for example that the fact that they originally wanted to kill Dib in the Bad, bad rubber piggy and replace him with another kid was actually a plan, but it was only a joke that people took seriously), so this is more like a reminder to myself and other people: You have to look every bit of information you get from an outside source a little bit grain of salt. Even the claims I said here, need to be looked at with a little bit skeptism! You don't have to believe me! Do your research and then you can create your own opinion!
Don't shield with yourself the creator, if you are not sure! And if you still think another thing would work you better than what established in the canon: You can make an alternate universe. You can make your own rules! But don't say: "I am only doing this, because they retconned canon!" They didn't. It was false advertisement and rumours. You can do non-canon things, if that's what you have ideas for. Fanfiction isn't treated as strictly as canon afterall. It can be great. Just don't try to force your headcanons to other people and try to respect the original creator! Yes, he can be mean, but after how he got stalked by some fans and some people even asked him innapropiate and uncomfortable questions, so I don't blame him. And they are also his characters, so the way he intended them is the canon one.
I also like to adress the people who religiously follow canon: There is nothing wrong with that! Everybody is here in this fandom, because they love this show! But it's often easy to forget how we are all people here and attacking others, because they are not following the source-material. And a plenty of them are minors, who found comfort in the way they extend the world. I assume, you want to help, but the tools you are using are not the best. Both sides can get hurt, because both sides can have multiple kind of people! If you really think the fandom is missing canon material that much, try to create your own! It's not others' duty to serve you, being in the fandom is a hobby, not a job. And it isn't supposed to be the: "Do better and then talk, otherwise shut up!" I know not everyone is a good writer or artist or someone who can make good jokes. You don't have to be! Just share your ideas and discuss it with other people! You can find your own circle. One of the things I like about the fandom how colourful it is. There are so many intriguing interpretations!
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Incorrect IZ-quotes 03
Zim (setting a shark free as his new evil plan): "Chompi, you're a noble and heroic creature. Now go and eat the children!"
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Mysterious Mysteries is one of my favourite Invader Zim episodes, because every main character gets time to shine thanks to the simple, and effective format. We get pieces of the way they see the world. It takes place in mostly one setting, while the host trying to figure out what exactly happened. The jokes also work, and the delivery even makes it more hilarious, like the actor who's playing Zim not only gives us an obviously fake cry, but large fake tears come from his eyes as well, or there is a guy who's playing Dib who sounds very emotionless. It feels so cheap and that gives it a "It's so bad it's good" vibe. The way that poor host slowly sinking into madness is also phenomenal, and GIR who's his last hope, gives the last straw instead...
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Incorrect IZ-quotes 02:
Human Skoodge: "Zim, I am looking forward this reunion and I would appreaciate if noone would be ending off dead."
Human Zim: "Why are you defending those people?! Don't you remember when your underwear was hanged off on the flagpole?! Or when your gym-shoes were filled with tapioca or when your head was in the toilet?!"
Human Skoodge: "Yes Zim, I remember. You did those things to me."
Human Zim: "Irrelevant!"
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Incorrect IZ-quotes 01
GIR from 'GIR goes crazy and stuff': "Why don't we just kill them?!"
Zim (who's getting revenge on someone): "No, no... Listen, that's not how evil plots work there's gotta be like machination such refusion shit and then a big reveal were you like: 'Haha, remember me?!' and they're like: 'NOOOOO!!!!' and then you roll the world and then get all the appreaciation... Servants, I mean. Power and servants!"
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Randomly thinking about Dib singing Mysterious Force from Phineas and Ferb to Gaz. Linda should be replaced by his father.
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I really liked the issue with Emperor Zim in it, because despite Zim working very hard for years to accomplish his goal and he matured, and even defeated his biggest nemesis, it's not exactly some outside force that takes him down, but himself. His past literally bites him back in the ass. He even manages to ruin things for himself, and the younger one considers this a victory, and it is just so beautifully ironic.
Also he didn't get rid off one of his largest flaw: his arrogance. He looks down the past-one and underestimates him. That causes his end, because one of the things Zim hates most is being treated like nothing, but an inconvinience.
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Some people are wondering why is Zim trying to learn about humanity in a company with a bunch of 10-12 year olds. I have a theory about this: When I was a kid, my adult superiors talked about how important school is because "It teaches you life." So I think it's entirely possible from an alien's (outside) perspective to take that idolized sentence literally and think school is the best place to learn how to act like a member of the society of humans without people getting suspicious how you have no idea how are you should behave? This is the perfect place to prepare for what waits for you when you are starting to interact with others, right?
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Where is sexist Zim coming from?
I see Zim get called that before because of Tallest Miyuki's death and making Tak failing her exam.
But none of these really make sense to me, because Spork died the same way as Miyuki, and it happened because of his blob-creation got out of hand, so we can theorize planned murder, but I didn't get that impression. Both of these come off like huge accidents. He wanted to impress of his Empire, he just couldn't make his loyalty useful. And even if it was actually intentional, it still doesn't fits into sexist-category.
As for Tak: The whole thing happened because of his snack-obsession. If a dude would have been the one who took the test, Zim would have still done the same (in the original concept of the Tak centered episode she is referred as a guy). He just puts himself first, not thinking about the consequences. That maybe his actions can hurt somebody. He is ignorant in general.
He also blew up other invaders, and I am pretty sure he doesn't attacked just females on purpose.
Seriously, Irkens don't care about gender. They are all nonbinary/agender, and there are only subtle differences beetween male and female beetween them like their antenna and eyelashes, and maybe the voice, but they are pretty similar otherwise both in built and with their rules in the society. They don't wear clothes that define their gender. They only wear clothes that defines their job in Irk. Their hight is the thing that can be an enourmous setback or something that helps them getting a better position (like how Skoodge despite conquering his assigned planet first did not get the praise he deserved, and they gave his success to an another, taller invader).
Zim canonically causally crossdresses in the series and also gets confused about human gender (he called Dib a girl in the comics). Sure, he uses 'he/him' pronouns and Tak uses 'she/her', but it's probably their translator that gives a pronoun that "fits in English and by Earth standards" or is it from more ancient times and it sticked, but it doesn't really relevant anymore how they view each other. They are an alien species, they don't work by the same standards as humans.
I don't remember Zim being meaner to girls than he is to guys. However he looks down other species beside his own. He claims that Irkens are superior, others are inferior. There is a ton of definete proof he is a xenophobe. But he is not a misogynist. I don't see any evidence for it, only warping the narrative to making him look like one.
I mean he already has a plenty of bad traits, why you want give him more, instead of working what you got?
Of course, I don't say you can't write a story with that concept, you can build a very interesting conflict or misunderstanding around it, I am just surprised why it gets treated as canon in some places.
Is it supposed to be a joke I am not getting and it doesn't supposed to be taken seriously? If that's the case, I am sorry for wasting time overthinking this. If it isn't can you tell me how would you or some other person/people come to that conclusion? I am actually curious about the thought-process.
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When I first watched the show, I thought Zim introducing himself like he is a 'perfectly normal human womb-baby.' And I was like: "Yes, a little on the nose, but at least you did your research, I guess?"
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