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After watching Glaciator 2.0, we ought to revisit Hack-San, Rocketear, and Wishmaker after getting more context from this episode, because I really wanna talk about Adrien and Chat Noir's characterizations as of late. Take a look at the scene from Hack-San as an example:

While there have been instances, such as in Oblivio and Troublemaker, where Adrien occasionally displays Chat Noir's mischief and playfulness, you don't usually see Adrien act out or be petty about anything. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't recall Adrien ever "acting out" like this in his civilian form in previous episodes. For the most part, this is the first time Adrien has shown any kind of emotional outburst (or immaturity, I guess?) in his civilian form. Adrien is usually portrayed as being"perfect" because he has to uphold his father's brand. Most of Adrien's emotional range is expressed through Chat Noir because Chat Noir is Adrien's emotional outlet.

We don't typically see Adrien act like this unless he's Chat Noir. Because of this, I have always found it a bit challenging to see Adrien and Chat Noir as the same person. At first, I thought that the writers couldn't make up their minds with his characterization, but now, especially after seeing Wishmaker, I think this disconnect between Adrien and Chat Noir was an intentional writing choice.

It's so easy for the audience to see Adrien and Chat Noir as two separate characters because, in a way, they are. That's certainly how Adrien views himself; he's either this teenage heartthrob who's constantly on his best behaviour, or he's the goofy and mischievous Chat Noir. These two personality traits are seemingly at odds with each other, and yet Adrien somehow embodies them both. This contrast was made especially clear in the art room scene in Lies:

"There. This is really you."

"Do you really think?"

"Yes. You're... perfect."

This scene honestly told us so much more about Adrien than I think most of us realize. A lot of people have analyzed this scene and said that Kagami is able to see Adrien for who he really is, but I don't think that's the case at all. Look at his reaction. If Adrien had a strong sense of self in the first place, then this interaction between him and Kagami wouldn't be like this at all. Adrien would be happy, or at the very least flattered, that someone actually understood him and wanted to get to know the real him. Yet, look at Adrien's face; he's not scared or put off, but he's definitely not happy nor relieved. He's unsure. He's confused. He doesn't connect with Kagami because he doesn't understand what Kagami means. Kagami only sees what she thinks is Adrien's true self, but even Adrien has no clue what that even is.

This season, Adrien is starting to push back against his father, as we saw in Mega Leech, and that line between Adrien and Chat Noir is slowly starting to blur. This "perfect" facade that Adrien has to perform all the time is starting to dissipate. His flaws are starting to show as he's being put in situations where he has to assert himself.

Now, before he can do all of that, Adrien is going to have to come to terms with that the fact that Ladybug isn't interested in Chat Noir, and that the idea of them being together is completely off the table.

Some people might look at this and say "well, yeah, it's about time. Adrien needs to learn about boundaries and stop projecting this fantasy onto Ladybug." That's true, yes, but a lot of people forget just how isolated Adrien is and just how desperate he is for some kind of deep emotional connection. Remember this scene in Glaciator?

"Perhaps Ladybug will love me someday. I mean, like I love her. I have to believe. In the meantime, her friendship is the best gift of all."

Most of us overlooked this scene, but this was a crucial piece of characterization for Adrien, not to mention foreshadowing for Glaciator 2.0.

Of course, Adrien values Ladybug's friendship, but he always had this hope that she was going to fall for him eventually. Whenever horrible things went on in his life, he always turned to Laybug to make him feel better. Even after defeating the akuma in Lies, despite being on rocky terms with Kagami, he doesn't seem as bothered by it because Ladybug was still practically living in his head rent-free.

This is a heavy contrast to the way Marinette felt about her breakup with Luka, which left her devasted.

In Adrien's case, he's not just clinging onto this romantic fantasy, he's become dependent on it for his emotional well-being, so much to the point where it clouds his better judgement. Now he's experiencing emotional whiplash after being faced with the fact that his fantasy won't ever become a reality. He can't depend on this fantasy anymore, because now he has to face all of the loneliness and lack of control he has in his life and realize that he's the only one that can change it.

This is the catalyst for Adrien's character development, and it's going to be intense.

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My sweet and comforting love

| Marichat | Ladrien | Adrienette | Ladynoir  |  Ladyblanc  |

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After watching Glaciator 2.0, we ought to revisit Hack-San, Rocketear, and Wishmaker after getting more context from this episode, because I really wanna talk about Adrien and Chat Noir's characterizations as of late. Take a look at the scene from Hack-San as an example:

While there have been instances, such as in Oblivio and Troublemaker, where Adrien occasionally displays Chat Noir's mischief and playfulness, you don't usually see Adrien act out or be petty about anything. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't recall Adrien ever "acting out" like this in his civilian form in previous episodes. For the most part, this is the first time Adrien has shown any kind of emotional outburst (or immaturity, I guess?) in his civilian form. Adrien is usually portrayed as being"perfect" because he has to uphold his father's brand. Most of Adrien's emotional range is expressed through Chat Noir because Chat Noir is Adrien's emotional outlet.

We don't typically see Adrien act like this unless he's Chat Noir. Because of this, I have always found it a bit challenging to see Adrien and Chat Noir as the same person. At first, I thought that the writers couldn't make up their minds with his characterization, but now, especially after seeing Wishmaker, I think this disconnect between Adrien and Chat Noir was an intentional writing choice.

It's so easy for the audience to see Adrien and Chat Noir as two separate characters because, in a way, they are. That's certainly how Adrien views himself; he's either this teenage heartthrob who's constantly on his best behaviour, or he's the goofy and mischievous Chat Noir. These two personality traits are seemingly at odds with each other, and yet Adrien somehow embodies them both. This contrast was made especially clear in the art room scene in Lies:

"There. This is really you."

"Do you really think?"

"Yes. You're... perfect."

This scene honestly told us so much more about Adrien than I think most of us realize. A lot of people have analyzed this scene and said that Kagami is able to see Adrien for who he really is, but I don't think that's the case at all. Look at his reaction. If Adrien had a strong sense of self in the first place, then this interaction between him and Kagami wouldn't be like this at all. Adrien would be happy, or at the very least flattered, that someone actually understood him and wanted to get to know the real him. Yet, look at Adrien's face; he's not scared or put off, but he's definitely not happy nor relieved. He's unsure. He's confused. He doesn't connect with Kagami because he doesn't understand what Kagami means. Kagami only sees what she thinks is Adrien's true self, but even Adrien has no clue what that even is.

This season, Adrien is starting to push back against his father, as we saw in Mega Leech, and that line between Adrien and Chat Noir is slowly starting to blur. This "perfect" facade that Adrien has to perform all the time is starting to dissipate. His flaws are starting to show as he's being put in situations where he has to assert himself.

Now, before he can do all of that, Adrien is going to have to come to terms with that the fact that Ladybug isn't interested in Chat Noir, and that the idea of them being together is completely off the table.

Some people might look at this and say "well, yeah, it's about time. Adrien needs to learn about boundaries and stop projecting this fantasy onto Ladybug." That's true, yes, but a lot of people forget just how isolated Adrien is and just how desperate he is for some kind of deep emotional connection. Remember this scene in Glaciator?

"Perhaps Ladybug will love me someday. I mean, like I love her. I have to believe. In the meantime, her friendship is the best gift of all."

Most of us overlooked this scene, but this was a crucial piece of characterization for Adrien, not to mention foreshadowing for Glaciator 2.0.

Of course, Adrien values Ladybug's friendship, but he always had this hope that she was going to fall for him eventually. Whenever horrible things went on in his life, he always turned to Laybug to make him feel better. Even after defeating the akuma in Lies, despite being on rocky terms with Kagami, he doesn't seem as bothered by it because Ladybug was still practically living in his head rent-free.

This is a heavy contrast to the way Marinette felt about her breakup with Luka, which left her devasted.

In Adrien's case, he's not just clinging onto this romantic fantasy, he's become dependent on it for his emotional well-being, so much to the point where it clouds his better judgement. Now he's experiencing emotional whiplash after being faced with the fact that his fantasy won't ever become a reality. He can't depend on this fantasy anymore, because now he has to face all of the loneliness and lack of control he has in his life and realize that he's the only one that can change it.

This is the catalyst for Adrien's character development, and it's going to be intense.

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okay so i take it this is the plot of glaciator 2.0?

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it's all about perspective

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Consequences : [Part 1] ; [Part 2-1] ; [Part 2-2] ; [Part 3] ; [Part 4-1] ; [Part 4-2 (Final): Here]

I suggest you reread this comic from the beginning if you don’t remember some things.

I purposely left some things a little vague so you can interpret them as you wish.

I would have liked to go a little further in this story, especially with Marinette, Alya and Nino. But I don’t have the time and I have other projects in mind.

I hope you enjoyed it anyway!

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OH MY TOR

Consequences : [Part 1] ; [Part 2-1] ; [Part 2-2] ; [Part 3] ; [Part 4-1:here] ; [Part 4-2: Soon]

This was supposed to be the last part but I had to split it into two parts. So I will post the rest tomorrow or another day of the week.

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Since I'm just here for the double-secret-identity shenanigans, I'm really into the endless potential around "trying and failing to keep track of who said what as who to whom"

Like Chat and Ladybug are patrolling around an area and Ladybug chimes in with "Oh did you know? Adrien Agreste is doing a photoshoot here next weekend - right across the street. He told me."

And Chat is like Yep sure am but mostly he's confused because. Wait. He definitely didn't tell Ladybug that. Right?

"Wait when did Adrien tell you that?"

"Oh, last Thursday I think. Adrien was walking home from school."

And wait this is even weirder now because

"Adrien was walking home with Marinette on Thursday. He told Marinette that. How do you know that?"

Ladybug stops like Wait, shit, because yeah Adrien told her that as Marinette but she's talking to Chat right now so it shouldn't matter if she keeps straight which of her selves Adrien was talking to but it turns out Chat DOES know somehow that it was Marinette and not Ladybug that Adrien was talking to last Thursday while walking home and Chat is staring at her and Ladybug is buffering trying to figure out what to say

"I was. um. hiding behind the plant when Adrien told Marinette."

"A plant?"

"Yeah there was a plant."

And Ladybug pauses for a beat.

"How do you know Adrien told Marinette that?"

A beat. Chat is buffering.

"I was hiding behind the other plant."

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See… that’s where you’re wrong Adrien

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listen to my song, love

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This doesn’t look as good as my last post and I feel like my art style isn’t very consistent, but I thought this scene in Adventure Time was funny and wanted to draw it with Plagg and Adrien!

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incorrect quote (☆) by @sariahsue

I've been wanting to try my hands at making little comic snippets

thank you so much for suggesting incorrect quotes for a start @theultracharmingladynoire ♡

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BET Luka knew it was Juleka. It's a sibling thing.

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Nino reading through the ao3 RenaChat fanfics and crying because they’re actually good

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Nino reading through the ao3 RenaChat fanfics and crying because they’re actually good

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I uhhhh 🧍 I made another continuation....

A loooooot of people asked me to continue it, and while I usually dislike drawing things just because people ask, I did already have an idea for a part 3 in mind, plus I felt kinda bad leaving it off at a cliffhanger lol

(Part 1) (Part 2)

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goddamn I've just been thinking about how if I were them I would absolutely latch onto any little tiny tidbits of info they might learn about each other.

Like does Marinette think about how she got to see his normal eyes for the first time when he was Mister Bug? Or his bare, ungloved hands, those few times he's given her his ring? Do her ears perk up any time Chat Noir mentions Plagg hiding in his shirt (cause, oh yeah I guess he does wear shirts??? what kinds of shirts does he wear??) Do they know each other's favorite foods? Their coffee order? The KNITTING FAIRY?? His Lady knits??? What else doesn't he know about her?

anyway im driving myself crazy thinking about this