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Can Loki be watched without having seen any previous MCU stuff? Like can you just start with Loki or would the viewer be totally lost?
Great question, anon. Unfortunally, the emotional side of the Loki series (and some of the plot) will not make a lot of sense without having seen Thor 1, Thor 2, the Avengers 1, and Avengers: Endgame. All the other MCU movies aren't needed for the series, but if you really want the full experience, I would recommend watching these movies first. If you're just going to go for it, at a bare minimum, look up the plot to Thor 1, the Avengers 1 and Endgame. And then watch the clips with Frigga and Loki from Thor 2.
I'm pretty sure that everything could be self explanatory as you go along, except why the timeline is a mess; which is why you need to see and/or have read the plot of Endgame first.
Happy viewing! :)
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MCU Phase 1 is written as a series of tragedies:
TW mentions of suicide.
Hulk 1: Bruce’s attempts to help humanity turn him into the Hulk.
Iron Man 1: Tony is betrayed by someone close to him and has to kill him. Also, he’s kidnapped, held hostage and it leaves a permeant scar on his body
Thor 1: Loki’s fall to darkness. Thor’s loss of innocence.
Cap 1: Steve loses his best friend and this drives him to suicide/suicidal tendencies. (There are a dozen ways Steve could have dealt with that plane that didn’t involve him going down with it).
Iron Man 2: Tony is dying and does the bare minimum to save himself until pushed in that direction. His invention is used to kill people.
Avengers 1: Loki is driven to madness by his desire for love and acceptance. The Avengers are forced to work together to avenge their dead friend.
Which is personally why I think so many people find Avengers 1 so deeply connecting. Yeah, it’s not the happiest story, but (sans Loki) it’s all these broken people coming together to realize that they’re not alone in their suffering.
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I had to.
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Please don’t let fandom ruin something you love. Walk away and unfollow the fans and enjoy the thing by yourself, or find a limited circle of people who ignore the discourse, or get your irl friends into the thing and collectively ignore the Internet community, or blacklist from here to the moon if you need to and only ever scroll through your rarepair ship’s tag on AO3. But don’t let fandom distort a show or a movie or a book or a comic you used to love so badly that you can’t enjoy the original anymore. Please. It isn’t worth it.
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Loki series current feeling post Epi-2: ...Less optimistic
Loki series current feeling post Epi-1: Cautiously optimistic
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Loki was on TVA for a while and already figured out how to hack the system, that is, hide in the apocalypse.
I know!! Wasn't that great!! Loki is a master escape artist, and is constantly looking for loop holes and ways to fix things. His genius in this aspect was just *chef's kiss*
It makes me wonder how many things like this he brought to Odin only to have Odin dismiss it as being childish or stupid. Loki probably had more than a few concerns about the way Asgard ran, and Odin likely didn't want to hear it.
Which also makes me feel extremely upset in that regard because that means when Loki actually comes to express his excitement about having discovered this to Mobius...Mobius acts exactly the same as Odin. Telling Loki to stop or shut up or get to the point.
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What do you think about Loki's confrontation with Lady Loki? Or Sylvie? I think that she is Sylvie.
I hope that it's not Lady Loki. I have spent years trying to avoid Lady Loki. *deep sigh*
I think that the confrontation could have been done much better, honestly. I wasn't that impressed.
Let me explain this further:
Scenes like this are supposed to further character and/or show us something we didn't know. It's gaining information on Sylvie and Loki OR THE PLOT AS A WHOLE. (I have spent years telling stories guys, years upon years, I have a basic grasp on how to do so).
The thing we're missing here...is that it didn't do either. It was flashy and needlessly humiliating on Loki's part, and while I do appreciate that Loki was trying to gain information here, while not putting himself at a disadvantage, I would have chosen to do it much differently.
We spend minutes having them talk...about...nothing? And Sylvie being pointlessly over-the-top.
The most we learn about these two characters the whole scene is that a) Loki is reluctant to go on the offensive, and b)...Sylvie is female?
I don't know. I'm very conflicted about this scene, and I'm not sure why. :/ need to think about that for a little bit.
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Why do you think Loki fought so poorly? No knives or magic? He didn't want to hurt the possessed people?
Anon, haha. Anon, I wondered the same thing for a little bit. But Loki was not actually fighting stupidly. Let me explain:
Fighting is very physically exhausting.
Emphasize: Fighting is very physically exhausting.
Why is this important? Because Loki's goal was not to overpower the Variant. Loki was gaining information. Which is a vastly different way of fighting. Loki was using words. We already know that Loki is very effective at disarming and killing (re: TDW), and had Loki actually decided, hey, I'm going to kill you, Loki would kill you.
The difference here is this:
A) Loki could not actually fight the Variant because what the Variant was doing was basically like momentary possession. Anything Loki did to the possessed body would not actually hurt the Variant.
B) Loki cannot fight the Variant and gain information at the same time, because Loki isn’t stupid enough to try and hold a conversation when in the midst of an actual, to-the-death fight.
C) The Variant and Loki were toying with each other. Loki allowed himself to get knocked around for the purpose of mentally trying to overpower the Variant.
D) It is REALLY REALLY hard to talk and fight effectively.
This fight was more mental games than an actual fight.
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My plan is to do one drawing for each episode, let's see if I succeed
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I don’t enjoy hurting people. I don’t enjoy it.
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…and I would cooperate.
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he had such a good streak going too
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“ GLORIOUS PURPOSE. ”
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…So that first episode huh?
( PRINTS // SPEEDPAINT // TIKTOK )
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Mobius, my man, my guy.
Loki has been studying this for a thousand years. If he says they’re different, they’re different.
But win for Loki correcting him about this. Loki is very intelligent in terms of magic, and it’s important that they don’t forget this.
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HE STILL LOVES THEM SO MUCH!!!
Learning of Asgard’s destruction:
Thinking of Thor randomly:
Thinking of Odin:
But uh, I will say this: Odin did none of the raising, Loki. That was all Frigga. He stood there and looked pretty, but it’s great that you’re trying for acceptance. :) :) :)
But seriously!!! LOOK HOW MUCH HE LOVES HIS FAMILY!
LOOK AT IT
SOAK IT IN
HE LOVES HIS FAMILY SO MUCH AND THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW
Hearing Odin say that he loves him.
Realizing that he and Thor are still together and talking. And that they watched Odin die together. For one small, incremental moment, he wasn’t alone in something awful.
The death of his parents is so painful that he has to look away from the screen. Then quickly looks back up upon hearing Thor talk.
Maybe you’re not so bad after all brother,
Loki laughs quietly, because Thor gets him. And Loki feels that for the first time in a very long time. Then Thor offers to hug him, and Loki smiles. And laughs. The first, genuine smile and laugh that we’ve gotten from him since Thor 1 (at this point in the timeline):
And by the Norns, they hugged. You can freakin see it in his face.
And then he goes forward, because surely, surely there is more good memories like these here. Of course there are, he and Thor are finally talking. Their parents may be dead, but Thor’s love means so much to him it’s the first thing that breaks Loki out of his stoic mask.
Look at him, still hopeful, still wanting.
And then Thanos makes an on-screen appearance.
And then Loki realizes, no. There are no more good memories here.
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Why Thor FOUND.
Not why Thor FINDS.
As far as Loki is concerned, Thor is dead, and this makes me ache. Loki’s convinced that his entire family is dead because they all die anyway according to the timeline.
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He wasn’t checking on her to have her get the army back here, he was checking on her to make sure that she was alive.
Even after she calls him a cosmic mistake, Loki still checks to make sure that she’s not dead from the spell.
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